Russian World optimization

"Optimization" of Russian civilization

The parasitic capitalist system and consumer society, which forms the ideology of individualism and selfishness, when people “live one day at a time and for themselves,” in the long term lead to destruction and self-destruction of both man and the entire society. Only a few and narrow groups, the castes of the “chosen ones,” oligarchs and plutocrats, win.

This is confirmed by the facts of the destruction of the family in Russia and the extinction of the Russian people and most of the other indigenous peoples of Russian civilization.

The results of the population census are disappointing, more than 40% of households in Russia consist of one person, and their share has doubled in 20 years. The latest All-Russian population census, conducted in 2021, has revealed 27,6 million one-person households, two-thirds of households consisted of one or two persons, complete families - only a fifth (20,7%) of all households.

According to this indicator, Russia has completely caught up with the countries of Europe. European countries are currently being “saved” by migrants from Asia and Africa; in Russia they are repeating the same path (National Security Threat: Migrants). But the result is a new problem: the aging and extinction of indigenous, state-forming nations against the backdrop of the rapid growth of alien migrants, bearers of other civilizational, religious and cultural meanings and codes.

The destruction of national states and state-forming nations is a “new Babylon”, where there will no longer be the familiar white French, English, Irish, Italians or other Swedes. “Gray race”, ideal consumer-slaves, without civilizational national, cultural and religious roots.

The destruction of the family

In terms of leading indicators, Russian society and the family have completely caught up with the pan-European and world indicators (the Western project has long since become global). The trend for late marriages, which for the most part break up. So, in 2021, 70% of marriages broke up in Russia, in 2020 - 73%. For comparison: 30 years ago this ratio was 42%, and 70 years ago only 4% of marriages broke up.

Young people are in no hurry to marry, have children. They live for themselves. The ideology of consumption and hedonism dominates society. The cult of egoism, individualism. People are taught that it is easier and simpler to live alone. What you need to "live beautifully", "for yourself." A huge entertainment industry has been built to encourage the degradation of human needs (gluttony, tobacco, alcohol, other drugs, the sex industry, virtual reality, gaming reality, etc.).

And the material and economic situation in the Russian Federation is getting worse, it’s becoming more and more expensive to have children. The appearance of children does not lead to the strengthening of the financial situation of children, as would be reasonable, but on the contrary. The appearance of children leads to poverty or even poverty.

Therefore, the traditional family is now on the verge of complete destruction. First, children disappear from the family, because it is more convenient, easier, and financially more profitable to live this way. You can “live for yourself”, consume a lot, have fun, travel. Then families as such disappear altogether. “Families” of one person arise. Individualists "seek themselves" to death, improve the quality of life, have fun, live solely to meet their needs. This is the death of family, society and state. For Russia – a multi-thousand-year-old civilization.

The trend is quite obvious and disappointing. With such terrible numbers, we have no future.

A demographic catastrophe followed by an economic one, when we will not have teachers, doctors, workers and soldiers. And then a cultural, civilizational catastrophe. The death of the Russian world and the super-ethnos of Russians is not far off with the continuation of the development of such a scenario.

Comments

[rusmax888]

This is the plan of the global elites to reduce the world population. Our power is an integral part of the global elite. Hence the inculcation of the cult of consumption and childlessness. I don’t think it’s worth writing about how much it will cost to support two children in our country at the current level of wages and prices for housing and food.

[Asad]

All this is sad. For example, my family, the eldest daughter was born with a developmental delay, now 15 and thinks like a 5 year old. They didn’t give birth anymore. And the youngest has no time for children, then work, then rest. Already 35, no grandchildren. My family will end, my grandfather did not think that everything would end like this.

[Mari33]

Quote: ASAD

All this is sad.

Optimization of the Russian world? It's optimized:
1. The country is deindustrialized, there is no independent industry, dependence on imports is 70-90%
2. The system of social guarantees has been destroyed almost to the ground.
3. Science and education are degraded, the brain drain is enormous and growing
4. Large private companies are registered outside the country, up to 80% offshore, their management is dominated by foreigners.
5. A significant part of the territories is given to foreign states for rent or management through the mechanisms of the ASEZ
6. A purposefully organized demographic catastrophe (analogous to the "Ost" plan) and the highest influx of migrants in the world, actively replacing the indigenous population.
7. Healthcare is dead, free medical services are extremely low.
8. All media and the Internet are owned and controlled by those who are not interested in the development of Russia.
9. The population is impoverished, the standard of living is falling.
10. The financial system is totally dependent and works in the interests of third countries, a huge amount of capital is withdrawn from the country
11. The national culture has degraded and been replaced by the Western one, only the remnants of the Soviet legacy cover it up
12. The national identity of Russians has been replaced by propaganda with a simulacrum of pseudo-patriotism, designed to hide points 1-11.

[Andriuha077]

All right, I'll add
6.1. Talk about the permissibility of arming and combat training of militants invading Russia is being introduced into society, which they are going to do at the expense of the defense resources of the local population being replaced.
About the same in the video:

- Migrants in the army?
What will you do with them when they return?
They should not receive military weapons, they should not be allowed to learn how to use them.
https://t.me/fighter_bomber/13815
(scroll to 19 00st edition of 31)

[acetophenone]

Under damned tsarism, the population is poor, and the dominance of foreigners, concessions, science and education at the level of the plinth, and foreign culture, and "free medical services" of an extremely low level, and the population grew by leaps and bounds ...
Or “this is different”?

[spektr9]

Under damned tsarism, the population is poor, and the dominance of foreigners, concessions, science and education at the level of the plinth, and foreign culture, and "free medical services" of an extremely low level, and the population grew by leaps and bounds ...
Or “this is different”?

So it is right to do exactly as in the Republic of Ingushetia and the countries of Africa: Ban the Internet, completely eliminate education for 70% of the population and remove conceptions from sale. And while in the sacred Russian Empire, the population in the hours free from slave labor will have only one entertainment - to be fruitful.
And you are good, immediately cheers - "patriotism" is visible

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

I agree with you. We are dying out. But in my opinion, no payments and benefits will save the situation. The worst thing is that the village is dying. Only rural families had 2-4 children. It's hard to raise two in cities. In the countryside, it's much easier. Rural families are stronger and healthier than city families. Children are taught to work from an early age, As a rule, everyone has their own household. Hence, the quality of nutrition and health. But people are fleeing from the villages. No job. There are no social conditions. It seems that we have only two cities in the country - St. Petersburg and Moscow. It is to these cities that they flee from all over the country.

[Il'nur]

The worst thing is that the village is dying out. Only village families had 2-4 children.

So this is one of the means of reducing the population through the destruction of villages, which is why they, the liberals, started in the 90s with the destruction of collective farms, the reduction of jobs and social conditions, they knew that population growth in Russia comes from the villages...

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: ASAD

All this is sad.

I understand and sympathize. He himself has two daughters. one is successful, with money, in office, not, beautiful, but already under forty and one ... The second, thank God, she is married, and at 33 she decided to give birth ... Granddaughter, there is not yet a month ... God grant that everything would be well .. And so with my friends, acquaintances through one ... Not married, not married, no children, not in a hurry, a sick child .. There is a large park nearby. And there are a lot of children, two children, three next to each other, parents are pleasing to the eye. And mostly very small children ... Can we break through?!

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: rusmax888

This is the plan of the global elites to reduce the world population.

I see people still do not get tired of writing this nonsense. It is not the conspiracy of globalists that is to blame, but the economic system. And until it changes, the demographic situation will not change either.

[alystan]

Hence the inculcation of the cult of consumption and childlessness. I don’t think it’s worth writing about how much it will cost to support two children in our country at the current level of wages and prices for housing and food.

With the cult of consumption, money is not provided for children.
They even manage to spend maternity capital on anything except children.
For “imposed” childlessness, you just have to put it up against the wall.
Doctors openly declare that they pay money for abortions, fewer and fewer children are being born, and there is no point in maintaining maternity hospitals with a huge staff. It is unprofitable (?!) for them and they simply close them.
And all sorts of optimizers like Golikova still sit in government offices and continue to do their dirty deeds.

[parusnik]

Parasitic capitalist system and consumer society, forming the ideology of individualism and selfishness

Thank God in Russia there is no capitalism, a social state, solidarity, oligarch and worker, brothers forever, peace, labor, May, June, July, August...

[bandabas]

Yes Yes. And also a shift in the trend in professions from lawyers-economists without exception to IT-specialists. No one needs to plow, sow and build in our kingdom-state. As well as helping parents of grandchildren to raise and educate, being retired. Until which the majority after the "pension reform" will not live. We don't have enough Tereshkovs. As the main “telegram operator” put it in 2016, “The most important thing is a personal choice. I am often asked about this. Both for teachers and teachers, this is a vocation. And if you want to earn money, there are a lot of great places where you can do it faster and better. Same business. But you didn't go into business, I take it."

[parusnik]

But you didn't go into business, I understand."

Yes Yes "Don't like it, go into business" (c) Well, I sent it, so I sent it

[Doccor18]

Quote: parusnik

Already sent, so sent

At our conferences, bosses regularly “send”, “go to trade, to the market, if you don’t like the job, the salary doesn’t suit you” ...

[crack]

This is how our bosses regularly "send" at conferences,

Businessmen need young, ambitious people who are not burdened with children and family problems, who can be exploited mercilessly, waving career opportunities in front of their noses like a carrot in front of a donkey's nose. All the rest are considered unnecessary ballast and sludge, which simply had to be disposed of.

[Il'nur]

At our conferences, bosses regularly “send” them, “to go to trade, to the market, if you don’t like the work, the salary doesn’t suit you.”

One way not to raise your salary is by intimidation, blackmail, that they will fire you, while saying: “If you don’t like it, leave...

[bandabas]

And the most interesting thing is that he continues to send in his "Very Strange Post". Alice Lewis Carrol smokes nervously off to the side with Cheshire, the Hatter and the rest of Wonderland.

[alystan]

Medvedev sent pensioners: "There is no money, but you hold on!"

[Petya Kuzmin]

As well as helping parents of grandchildren to raise and educate, being retired. Until which the majority after the "pension reform" will not live.

Under the tsar, there were no pensions at all, and life expectancy was even lower. This is absolutely not the reason.

[smart fellow]

Under the tsar, there were no pensions at all, and life expectancy was even lower. This is absolutely not the reason.

Under the tsar, there were no contraceptives and abortions. True, infant mortality was high. In the United States, by the way, now the law prohibits abortion, either the states or the feds. Abortion used to be considered progressive.

[Doccor18]

Quote: smart fellow

..now abortion is legally prohibited ...

Denying is as simple as that.
It is much more difficult for a future mother not to think about an abortion, as she feels material and psychological support.

[Petya Kuzmin]

Under the king of contraceptives, there were no abortions.

This is one of the reasons for the increased birth rate.
And then many were still afraid of God, because the murder of children is considered a mortal sin by the church.

[Jcvai]

This is one of the important reasons.
But the key, after all, is really something else: a psychological setting for the future. Now the era of irresponsibility has been superimposed on the cult of consumption, and from above it has also been crushed by a social lack of faith in the future.

[valek97]

And the fact that under the tsar a child from the age of 4 was a worker, could feed himself in the field and against now, when 1 child to provide for up to 24 years old with a tower is nothing? The difference is 6 times. The state is not running to help with a guaranteed minimum wage for each child, yelling that the budget is not enough ...

[Russian_Ninja]

Setting for the future? What do you have in mind? I'm afraid everything was more pragmatic - the village needs labor for a banal survival.
I don’t argue - maybe the peasants wanted the greatness of Russia and made new people, but it seems to me that not everything is measured by ideology

[valek97]

I write about it directly. different way of life and economy.

[Lynx2000]

Young people are in no hurry to marry, have children. They live for themselves. The ideology of consumption and hedonism dominates society. The cult of egoism, individualism. People are taught that it is easier and simpler to live alone. What you need to "live beautifully", "for yourself."

Modern young people, not "drivers on Heliks, Bekhas tuning M1 or Alpina", but turners, drivers, mechanics, sailors, even common "office employees" do not seek to start a family and give birth to their first child, not because of the desire to live "beautifully and for yourself", but due to financial difficulties: housing problem, financial security (taking care of a child costs a lot, reducing family income after the birth of a child and leave to care for a child, placing a child in a nursery garden, choosing an educational institution, etc. .). Not everyone is good at info gypsies or TikTok bloggers. Provision even for employees of law enforcement agencies became more or less stable and slightly worthy only in the 2010s.

I doubt the propaganda of hedonism, they simply keep the citizen in "the reins of financial dependence", in thoughts of maintaining life and family housing, feeding the family, raising and trying to educate the child, trying to maintain the health of family members. In this case, the "householder" has no time to think about something else...

[Stas157]

Quote: Lynx2000

do not seek to create a family and give birth to their first child, not because of the desire to live "beautifully and for themselves", but due to financial difficulties

Now the guards will prove to you that they don’t give birth in our country solely because of the luxurious life under Putin. Because everyone knows that they don’t give birth in rich countries! (Although in fact they give birth there and more than ours)

[crack]

Because everyone knows that rich countries do not give birth! (Although in fact they give birth there and more than ours)

The family is a cell of society, very convenient for the state. She is more inert and bound by obligations. Such people are easier to manipulate and, as a rule, they are less prone to criminal inclinations or various ideological currents, often acting in opposition to the current government.
And the "singles" live for themselves, are not burdened with responsibility and boredom can become a problem for government agencies.

[dmi.pris1]

Yeah .. This is an excuse for not wanting to have children. But you just need to want to have offspring .. Yes, it’s difficult financially, and we parents in the 90s and 2000s were no longer twenty years old. But four were born and raised .. It's up to the small, for the promotion of the family and family values. But this is not, from the word, TOTALLY. Correctly noted, the entertainment industry, there is a sweet life, but they forgot about the family. About households of one person .. Yes, the children went to the cities, the husband most likely died, and the widow is already over sixty. Yes, there is such a thing. I see in the countryside.

[Lynx2000]

Quote from: dmi.pris1

Yeah .. This is an excuse for not wanting to have children. But you just need to want to have offspring .. Yes, it’s difficult financially, and we parents in the 90s and 2000s were no longer twenty years old. But four were born and raised .. It's up to the small, for the promotion of the family and family values. But this is not, from the word, TOTALLY. Correctly noted, the entertainment industry, there is a sweet life, but they forgot about the family. About households of one person .. Yes, the children went to the cities, the husband most likely died, and the widow is already over sixty. Yes, there is such a thing. I see in the countryside.

Dmitry, with all due respect to you, despite the desire of many to have children, statistics (in this case, accurate data from the registry office) show the opposite in the years you indicated - a decrease in the birth rate.
To have the desire to give birth is one thing, to give birth and raise is another. The main reason is either infantilism (this is just the desire to live for oneself and have fun), another is a serious approach to the family and the appearance of a child, the desire to earn housing (contribution, mortgage), to provide the first expenses after the birth of a child. I myself am from a family where we grew up three children, but it was the end of 79 - the beginning of the 80s. The newlyweds lived in the 90s with a child in a 2 or at best 3 room apartment of the parents of one (one) of them, where a brother or sister of one of the newlyweds could (could) live. At the present time I see that young people of working specialties or employees are in no hurry to start a family, not at all because of the craving for entertainment, there is not enough money.

This is our so-called. "juvenile justice", guardianship authorities that can assess a family as dysfunctional in terms of housing conditions and prosperity.

[dmi.pris1]

Yes, I agree with you. Well, look. The housing problem was very acute in the 70-80s. Yes, and young professionals were still gaining experience and, accordingly, salaries, it was also hard to raise children. These problems were acute at all times. However then the state ideology worked for the family, the collective, and not for the individualist.

[Kronos]

Read what the second demographic transition is. Modern civilization does not imply having many children, as in the Middle Ages, this makes no sense. Then they gave birth a lot purely because of the need to have many workers and religion put pressure, and that’s all, no morals or values ​​interfered.

[Mishka78]

Quote from: dmi.pris1

It's a matter of small things, of promoting family and family values. But this is not the case, literally, AT ALL.

Dmitry, in 9 cases out of 10 I agree with you. However, naked propaganda is absurd. Where will you go with it when there is nothing to eat?
Look, the nightingale and jelly are busy with it around the clock. They tell how great the leader of the nation is and how we are all around him permanently closer and closer let's unite. Is there much use?
We need an integrated approach. Material incentives, social support, and most importantly, confidence in the future. This is exactly what people generally felt in the USSR.
For the family gave birth to a child, received an abstract 700 sput (fine!). But they can’t spend it. But you can take out a mortgage. And the wife is on maternity leave for 3 years, and the husband earns 50K (I take the average for the country). But there are no places in the garden. And prices are skyrocketing. A private garden costs at least 30K. And also grandparents will retire 5 years later. And also doctors, incl. and nurseries are now massively replaced by migrants. I use VMS from work, there is nothing more, more or less.
But in a regular clinic, where my daughter and I go, more than half of the staff are Saygibbata, Dzhavgaraty, Makhmudzhon and others - kyzy and -ogly.
And where is there to give birth to a second, much less a third? Where should they all live? How to provide them with a decent education? After all, we always want our children to live better than us.
My wife and I really wanted three children. Unfortunately, it didn’t work out in medicine. There was only one girl, and she was problematic... But now I’m wondering how I could support three and the hairs on my head are starting to stand up. Although I make good money by the standards of the Russian Federation. At the same time, there are colleagues in similar positions in the USA - their incomes are 5 to 10 times higher. And they are not afraid to give birth there.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote from: dmi.pris1

The point is small, for the promotion of the family and family values.

Will it help a lot if the salary is worthless? Try to live in a family of 4 with his wife on maternity leave for a salary of 50 thousand with a mortgage. As long as a family with one child will live more or less decently, you will be fucking with limited finances.

[dmi.pris1]

Well, here's an example at my work. Family, five people. Three children, the eldest went to the third grade. Until recently, our salary was 39 kilo rubles, well, 14 thousand earnings. in place .. Well, the car is not an ice-tag with caries on the thresholds. And? I finished with the house, will assemble it for a newer car.

[valek97]

Do you hear yourself? You justify poverty! Below the physiological threshold! 5 people, minimum wage - 16 thousand, they need at least 80 to cover their physiological needs, as well as a communal apartment, teeth, clothes, shoes. For a family of 5 people, you need to have at least 100, and that will not be enough, just a little, there is no money for teeth, no for an operation, etc.

[dmi.pris1]

I can hear perfectly .. By the way, they were supposed to come from the coast. We had a rest with our family.

[valek97]

You don't hear. You wishful thinking, where they had an income of 5 thousand rubles for 50 people, this is below the minimum wage, 10 thousand per person, food alone costs 8+ thousand. This is about survival. If they deny themselves something of the vital, it is their choice, but this is not normal.

[spektr9]

Yeah .. This is an excuse for not wanting to have children. But you just need to want to have offspring .. Yes, it’s hard financially, and we, parents in the 90s and 2000s, were no longer twenty years old. But four were born and raised

Again, propaganda tells us that we are well-fed and wealthy, only from stories like that in the stomach it doesn’t stop grumbling

[Doccor18]

Quote: Lynx2000

I doubt the propaganda of hedonism, they just keep the citizen in the "bridle of financial dependence"

Not everything is so clear. Many examples prove that even with a very good income, they are not in a hurry to give birth to children, even more so many, one / two ... I know several families that could have many children (finances and health allow), but they prefer to go skiing , river rafting, holidays in the UAE, etc. Children for many now are a "big responsibility" and "solid troubles". Understanding the need for a home / family comes to some quite late (35-45 years), as a result - they give birth to a maximum of one ...

[Lynx2000]

Quote: Doccor18

Not everything is so clear. Many examples prove that even with a very good income, they are not in a hurry to give birth to children, even more so many, one / two ... I know several families that could have many children (finances and health allow), but they prefer to go skiing , river rafting, holidays in the UAE, etc. Children for many now are a "big responsibility" and "solid troubles". Understanding the need for a home / family comes to some quite late (35-45 years), as a result - they give birth to a maximum of one ...

That’s what I’m getting at, because everything is clearly defined in the article - they don’t want to give birth because they haven’t had enough of it.
The example you gave is the so-called. "childfree" is not the average for the country, like veganism. For such, the phrase "children are a big responsibility" is an excuse. For others, a responsible approach, which does not mean a reluctance to have a child, just to begin with creating conditions for ensuring the residence and upbringing of the child after birth.
The opposite of your example, the other side is when they give birth in the so-called. “drunken stupor,” as they say when you’re pregnant, without the desire to have a child. Then they suffer themselves, they torture children and parents, and in the end they shift responsibility to the state.
A young family away from grandparents living from them for 3-4 thousand km. in a small military town/village, or in a hostel in the city, in the 90s and 00s it was also not easy to raise at least one child. Living with a baby in rented accommodation is also problematic...

[Doccor18]

Quote: Lynx2000

A young family away from grandparents living from them for 3-4 thousand km. in a small military town/village, or in a hostel in the city, in the 90s and 00s it was also not easy to raise at least one child. Living with a baby in rented accommodation is also problematic...

Went through it all myself. You are absolutely right, but you will agree that in the 90s (even in the early 2000s) we all still had Soviet attitudes about the importance and indispensability of the family, parents tried to marry their son as soon as possible, "until he cleared up", and the daughter must certainly get out get married before 25, "otherwise it's a disaster" ... Now it’s different, and parents say to their son: “Don’t write, you’ll have time to hang a yoke around your neck,” and to their daughter: “First, you need to learn and get on your feet, give birth to that simple thing.” Difference...

[vladimmiroff]

The difference is that in the USSR everyone had a roof over their heads, there were no homeless people and no mortgages. Therefore, they gave birth. Now it makes sense to give birth in a mortgage, that is, a rental apartment? This is the most limiting factor. Capitalism. Yes, and human settlements now without yards, children are not provided there. I apply Moscow, admire it. Damn the pics won't stick. Who knows how? VO does not give.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: Doccor18

Many examples prove that even with a very good income, they are not particularly in a hurry to give birth to children, even more so many, one / two ...

Yes, there is one too. But look at the average income. The main reason at the moment is the outright poverty of the population. Yes, such as before the birth rate is impossible to make, but it would be possible to bring it to acceptable levels, when for the bulk of the people the norm would be two children, and not one as now. But for this it is necessary to increase the cost per person enormously. And under capitalism this will never happen. Because constant competition and the pursuit of profits force us to save on everything.

[valek97]

it's all manipulation! If the state wants children, let them pay! I, with my current salary of 50 thousand, my wife at 30, can pull a maximum of 1, 2 with strong restrictions (when 50 thousand for 4). You see an initiative from the state - People, we give you money to support a child, you give birth and do not worry about its content. This is the case in Israel. Israel can afford it, but our system cannot. The problem is in the structure and distribution of resources.

[north 2]

You might think that in prosperous Switzerland, well, where the material and economic situation is excellent, families with many children. On the other hand, looking, in Tsarist Russia and in the USSR, where the material and economic situation was also not like in Switzerland, families were large. Liberals and Russophobes will object to me here, they say, the Church in Tsarist Russia preached intimacy only with a "result" and then, they say, how many times intimacy between a husband and wife happened in a family, so many times in a family and children happened. Well, again, according to the liberals and Russophobes, there was no sex at all in the USSR, which means that children were born according to the plans of the party - we will fulfill and exceed. Am I right? Liberals and Russophobes, answer your opinion.
But everything is much simpler, because the article is about the Russian World. Both Tsarist Russia and the USSR were Empire. And Russia on its original borders can exist only in the form of an Empire. And the Russian World can also exist only by seeing that Russia is an Empire. Otherwise, this is only self-deception, a fiction, and not the Russian World. There will be an Empire, then again families in Russia will have many children, because the Imperial state of Russia to the Russian World, which includes all the peoples in Russia, creates a comfortable environment to live confidently.

[parusnik]

that in prosperous Switzerland, where the material and economic situation is excellent, there are large families.

Do you think that in prosperous countries everything is fine? If they don’t want to have children?

[stelltok]

You might think that in prosperous Switzerland, well, where the material and economic situation is excellent, families with many children

That's not true.
In Switzerland, everything is very expensive for the salaries that they have.
In the USSR, the birth rate was higher because there was cheap housing + many factories were built.
Industrialization + housing.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: north 2

You might think that in prosperous Switzerland, well, where the material and economic situation is excellent, families with many children.

Even in prosperous Switzerland, income per person is insufficient.

[Ross xnumx]

Demographic catastrophe, followed by the economic one, when we will not have teachers, doctors, workers and soldiers. And then a cultural, civilizational catastrophe. The death of the Russian world and the superethnos of Russians is not far off if this scenario continues to develop.

Demographic catastrophe? Why are you afraid to say that it is a product of that same EBN-democracy? Can you tell me who succeeded him?
The population of the country, turned in some places into half-drunk people, in others into thieving rabble with developed consumer instincts, unprincipled, uncultured, semi-literate, deserves just such a fate.
They stopped taking him into account, taking away his rights and choice.
I only admire those countries that not only say, but also do a lot of good things for a decent life for ALL CITIZENS. And this empty ringing, drowning out the ringing of temple bells, showed what Russian leaders are really capable of, and further demonstrated their inability to think on a state scale.

[Stas157]

. In terms of this indicator, Russia has completely caught up with European countries.

Has a country with traditional family values ​​caught up with rear-wheel drive? How can this be!

[Alex66]

All the demographic programs of the government are not aimed at supporting the indigenous population, but for the benefit of new citizens from other countries, we have abandoned creation, creators are not needed, they are replaced by consumers.

[Vladimir80]

having children is becoming more and more expensive

I didn’t read further, the author started with good theses - and then he himself got involved in "anti-family propaganda"

[Petya Kuzmin]

having children is becoming more and more expensive

Here, they didn’t think about it before, “God gave, God took.”

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: Petya Kuzmin

Here, they didn’t think about it before, “God gave, God took.”

There wasn't much time to think before. I picked up a shovel and went to dig from the post until lunch. You can't feed a family with a thought.

[Doccor18]

Quote: Vladimir80

joined the "anti-family propaganda"

Not anti-family propaganda, but the harsh modern reality, unfortunately. A subject tutor takes 1-1,5 thousand per academician. hour. = at least 8 thousand per month in one subject ... This is one example. Now you can estimate how much it will cost to educate three children, paid sports clubs, summer holidays, etc...

[Vladimir80]

So the article was about the family, about children - why transfer everything to money. From the point of view of money, neither children nor family are needed by modern man. "Have fun while you can, when you can't - euthanasia and worm processing." From the point of view of money, old people are also not needed, both sick and crippled.

[Doccor18]

Quote: Vladimir80

So the article was about a family, about children - why transfer everything to money

So capitalism.
And how can you ignore the financial issue in modern conditions when it reminds of itself everywhere? Even school canteens are paid (except for primary classes). You can talk about the intangible and eternal, having a stable job and a decent income, and then life at every step reminds you of "materiality" ... If non-poor children can still somehow be convinced/driven/forced/explain the benefits of a family with three or more children , then this will not work with the poor, because there are simply no opportunities ...

[Vladimir80]

I do not argue that without the material world, nowhere. But from the point of view of money it is impossible to approach this issue. In Soviet times, not everyone had apartments, and not everyone had telephones. In pre-revolutionary times, hunger was not uncommon in general. And today, when they began to live better in everyday life, "childfree" began to be widespread. But migrants-new citizens have at least two children, and rented apartments in dubious areas. How do they do it???

[Doccor18]

Quote: Vladimir80

How do they do it???

Other meanings in life, other traditions, everything is different. In addition, they do not need universities / sections / tutors, etc.

[gsev]

Quote: Doccor18

In addition, they do not need universities/sections/tutors, etc..

In Afghanistan, after the Americans arrived there, the population was to some extent more strongly motivated to get an education than in Russia, observing how much richer the educated lived and how easily they felt in the new conditions. Afghans who lived under the Taliban in Russia could not get into high-intellectual production in Russia. Their destiny was markets like Cherkizon. The same person who was engaged in self-education here in Russia, having arrived in Afghanistan after the overthrow of the Taliban, could easily get a good position in a telecommunications company, first in Afghanistan, and then in the United States. In Russia, he simply will not get through the screening of his resume by a personnel officer; two planes will be sent from the United States to take him and his family to work in the United States after the Taliban enters Kabul, even if the sending of a second plane will have to be negotiated with the Taliban.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: Vladimir80

But from the point of view of money it is impossible to approach this issue.

And without money, only a fierce fool can approach this issue. And such an approach is doomed to failure.

[Vladimir80]

And without money, only a fierce fool can approach this issue

without brains, a fool approaches this business, and a smart one will count in his mind - he will understand that he doesn’t need anyone and nothing at all - “all the same, costs, everything requires labor and sacrifice, but why?”

[gsev]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

And without money, only a fierce fool can approach this issue.

In Germany, for example, marriages for low-income people are not registered. Germans often register their relationships in other European countries. A decrease in the birth rate among Russians is possible, largely due to Putin’s targeted and quite correct policy. In the last years of Soviet power, there was a imbalance in wealth between intellectuals and workers. At the enterprises where I worked, workers earned approximately 2,5 times more than engineers. Modern business has only in the last 3 years begun to come to the conclusion that it is much more difficult to find an engineer and designer than a worker, and the designer will soon have to pay as much as the designer asks. There is no reason for the state if fools breed and are not capable of benefiting the state. The course of the SVO showed that filling vacant positions with foreign workers carries terrible risks for the state. By the way, the policy of the Singapore authorities that led this country to success was to encourage marriages between talented and successful boys and girls. About 25 years after the start of these events, Singapore became quite a rich country.

[vladimmiroff]

They do not accept divorces, there is no chance that everything will be taken away from you and forced to pay alimony. Their family is a lifelong project and it makes sense to invest all your time and effort into it. Not so with Russians, 73% of divorces. It's like getting married, having a baby, getting divorced. Sued alimony and living space. There are many examples of such before our eyes. Something like this. Also one of the factors.

[would]

In Soviet times, not everyone had apartments

This is where you can stop reading your message. In Soviet times, every family could stand in line for an apartment and, very characteristically, eventually received it if it was not Moscow or St. Petersburg, there were difficulties there. If it was a developing region, then no problem at all. Where is this now?

In pre-revolutionary times, famine was not uncommon

In pre-revolutionary times, famine spread through villages where each family could build a separate house for itself. And in fact, children were protection from this hunger; the lack of mechanization of agriculture required a large number of workers. The more children you have, the better you cultivate your plot, the greater the harvest.

And if these are boys, then the more protection you have from fists. And if there are just a lot of them, then you can become a fist yourself.

But migrants who are new citizens have at least two children and rented apartments in dubious areas. How do they do it???

I saw these migrants, new citizens, those whom you described do not have families in Russia at all. They have a family in their homeland, and in Russia they earn money.

[gsev]

Quote: Vladimir80

But migrants who are new citizens have at least two children and rented apartments in dubious areas. How do they do it???

Among my friends there are many ethnic Afghans. The political system in Russia makes it very difficult for them to have children in Russia. For example, one acquaintance living in Russia until he was 40 years old in a Russian family had only one son. After 40 years, he married a Pashtun woman and visited her in Afghanistan for several months once a year or every 2 years. After each trip he had a new child. Now there are approximately 7 children from a Pashtun wife and 1 from a Russian wife. At some point, the man finally returned to Afghanistan. By the way, Pashtuns are more self-willed compared to Russians. If her husband forces her to go to work, she has the right to openly cheat on him. In Russia, I know that in one family the Afghan man works around the house and looks after the child, while the Russian wife works. In many ways, the number of children depends on whether Afghans oppose Russification. If the family does not watch TV, the children speak Pashto and Farsi, then there are more children; if a person has become Russified, then he has even more problems with creating a family than Russians. At one time, television imposed on Russians and even now it imposes the stereotype that a military man, a worker, an engineer is a loser from whom it is a sin for a smart and beautiful girl to have children. You must either force your loved one to become a character from a glossy magazine or soap series, or look for one.

[Petya Kuzmin]

This problem did not appear in modern Russia, it went into sharp growth in the 70-80s.
One of the reasons is the increase in living standards and the decline in morals.

[kor1vet1974]

A parasitic capitalist system and a consumer society that forms the ideology of individualism and selfishness, when people "live one day and for themselves"

If the capitalist system is so parasitic, maybe it's time to change the system, as one plumber said? You can denounce the capitalist system as much as you like and enjoy its fruits. It’s like eating an apple and saying something, but an apple with a worm, and after eating one you take another, but you don’t want to give up apples.

[Gomunkul]

If the capitalist system is so parasitic, maybe it's time to change the system, as one plumber said?

Those people who privatized power in the country do not agree with you, they believe that they have built an ideal society in which dreams come true, but not for everyone, but for dear Russians.

[Non-fighter]

And don't refuse. Either you eat wormy apples (moreover, exPers tell you that you eat a meat dish, and it is very tasty), or you do not eat anything.

[Gomunkul]

In the article and in the comments to it, I did not find the main reason why the profit of the population is going on in a seemingly prosperous and best country in the world (according to the word of the country's leadership). In my opinion, the main reason is the lack of confidence in the future and it is expressed in the fact that our beloved government does not give the people a respite from the constant "improvement of life" in the country.

[Gardamir]

does not give the people a respite from the constant "improvement of life" in the country.

[sadam2]

hmm, this week Vofka announced that we live better than the Germans)))) they are in 5th place in the 6th place in the economy ... neighing
but in general, of course, sadness ... you are there for your Crimea, and I’m lying alone on the beach in Nakhodka ... a third fled under the new government ... send at least blacks at least Uzbeks ... after 50 years there will be a vacuum

[Plate]

The quality of life can be measured by the volume of the economy per capita, if so. We have a larger population, and since we have just overtaken Germany in terms of total volume, it means that the volume per unit of person is definitely less. Do not attribute to Putin what he did not say.

[kor1vet1974]

our beloved government does not give the people a respite from the constant "improvement of life" in the country.

And driven horses are shot. Isn't it?

[Gomunkul]

And driven horses are shot. Isn't it?

Why waste bullets on them, they just replace them with new ones, they couldn’t fit into the market.

[kor1vet1974]

Why waste bullets on them, they just change them for new ones

From humanism, let them die

[Gomunkul]

From humanism, let them die

What are you, solid pragmatism. Bullets cost money.

[Nastia makarova]

enough nonsense to write that they don’t have children because there is little money, this is also a reason but not the main one, 45% of families already live in civil marriages, this is the main reason

[Jcvai]

"Marriage is just an official notification from the state that you are sleeping together."
This is absolutely not the reason. If a relationship requires a stamp in your passport, then it is a relationship for the sake of the stamp, and not for the sake of the relationship itself. Registration is required to interact with the government. And if an established family has no desire to register its status with the state, this does not make the family a “non-family” and does not prevent them from giving birth and raising children. This is just an indicator of the absence of reasons in this act. And there you can already look at the prerequisites, such as the lack of adequate state support, juvenile risks, etc.

[Vladimir80]

"A stamp in the passport" is a contract, and without a contract, everyone sets the rules himself, I want, I don't want, I changed my mind, I didn't understand, and so on. Of course, the "stamp in the passport" is not a guarantee, but at least something ...

[Jcvai]

Formally, it is.
But only in the era of consumption, considering the family in the form of a business CJSC.
And psychologically, in relationships with relatives and friends, it is highly desirable to avoid the format "write me a receipt with obligations, if you need something from me - only then will I help."
For me, state registration in relations did not change anything at all: they went to the registry office only to ensure relations with the state, to notify that we are now officially close relatives, minimizing restrictions when interacting with government agencies.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

stop writing nonsense that they don’t have children because there is little money

Well, start a lot of 50 thousand rubles of family income, and even with a mortgage. I'll see how you do it.

[vladimmiroff]

Fierce nonsense, I lived in the first civil marriage for 12 years, two children, established paternity and that's it. Then, the second, third marriage were (official). Now the fourth, also civilian. The children have been with me all these years. Younger 17 is already true. And what about marriage in general? AU?

[Plate]

Yes, nothing to do with marriage. Before the invention of the state, they gave birth somehow
There is a stupid reluctance to give birth - that's all. Because... well... why? This is the problem. In fact, there is no adequate answer to this question anywhere today. I do not see.

[Maks1995]

This has been clear for a long time. They even feared that the Chinese and Tajiks would perform folk songs in front of pensioners in Russian folk costumes on May 9 ...

But according to the Kremlin, we have an unprecedented increase in wages, life expectancy, the fight against poverty, and so on. There is nothing to worry about, migrants are being taken and taken. And higher education too.
So "nothing to believe" people from the Academy of Sciences about the wild brain drain.

Nothing can be done, unfortunately.
There all the commentators note the consequences ...

[Esaul]

As long as it is cheaper for the capitalists to bring in millions of migrant workers than to raise, educate and train within the country, the nation will continue to die out.

[Million]

The question arises: is our power against us?

[kor1vet1974]

our power against us?

Nope, she gets us off our knees like that

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: Million

The question arises: is our power against us?

Our power is for ourselves. And she doesn't care about everyone else.

[know]

So how many years have liberals and outright enemies frolicked with impunity in the Russian media - with Putin's full connivance. Which "brainwashed" and introduced Western values, tolerance, tolerance for vices. And they still teach in Solzhenitsyn's schools, the Yeltsin Center poisons the minds of children.

[kor1vet1974]

So how many years have liberals and outright enemies frolicked with impunity in the Russian media

And now, what has changed? Anti-people laws are adopted by friends of the people? which must be treated with understanding.

[Des]

There is no so-called. "Russian world". In Russia, all nationalities have equal opportunities. But in the republics and territories, it is precisely the people corresponding to the locality that "predominate". And it will be difficult for a citizen of the Russian Federation from the "Russian World" there. Prevails over the national interest ("imperial"))) - narrow parochialism of nationalities. With an external form of subordination to the center of the state, there are their own rules, "laws", a hidden and not very disdain for the authorities from the capital. And the ball, of course, is ruled by business. Not in the interest of the state. In "business" they rule and have enough finances, impudence to "influence" local officials, by no means representatives of the "Russian World". Just imagine an Orthodox prayer service blocking the streets, let's say, of any capital of the republics of our Caucasus. Or a march of Russian-speaking residents in the same place, or, for example, in Ufa. This will not happen.

[Roman Shevchenko]

I don't think this is the plan of the elites! Since people are more striving for Freedom! Relationships are obligations! Limitation of Freedom! And it’s just that young people are now making hasty marriages, but they don’t fit each other! Therefore and so!!!

[Nastia makarova]

45% live in civil marriages and this is an open relationship!!! the institution of the family is gone and not popular!!! What can be children if there is no family?

[Gomunkul]

The institution of family has disappeared and is not popular!!!

Maybe everything is much simpler? It’s just that many people have probably forgotten how to love, truly, unselfishly. Like a forgotten song from a completely different life...

I love you, Life,
Which in itself is not new,
I love you, Life,
I love you again and again.

Now the windows are lit,
I walk home from work tired
I love you, Life,
And I want you to become better.

I have been given a lot -
The expanse of the earth and the plain of the sea,
I have known for a long time
Selfless male friendship.

In the ringing of every day,
How happy I am that I have no peace!
I have love
Life, you know what it is.

How the nightingales sing
Twilight, a kiss at dawn.
And the pinnacle of love -
This is a great miracle - children!

We will go through with them again,
Childhood, youth, stations, moorings.
There will be grandchildren later,
Everything will repeat again.

Oh, how the years fly by
We are sad, noticing gray hair,
Life, do you remember the soldiers,
What died protecting you?

So rejoice and be accomplished
In the trumpet sounds of the spring anthem!
I love you, Life,
And I hope it's mutual!

[Vladimir80]

It's just that many people have forgotten how to love, truly, disinterestedly.

Matthew 24:12. “and because iniquity abounds, the love of many will grow cold.”

[Gomunkul]

I'll add to your message:

“Love is from God, and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. He who does not love has not known God, because God is love.”

[Plate]

Love is just biochemistry.
We don't need her.
Law, calculation, order:
Here are the right words!

[Russian_Ninja]

Thoughts are good and even seem to be correct, but this again looks like a transfusion from empty to empty, since there is no most important thing - the answer to the question: how to solve this problem?
I may be narrow-minded, but I personally don't really know how to do this without going to extremes (or research into human cloning).
No matter how sad it may sound, but perhaps the population will begin to bloom again over time, but now this problem cannot be solved.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: Russian_Ninja

since there is no most important thing - the answer to the question: how to solve this problem?

Move on to communism. Within the framework of capitalism, this problem cannot be solved.

[Russian_Ninja]

It is also possible to a monarchy - then church norms were in use and people multiplied.
Communism is a utopia in the current realities (maximum robotic - robots work, and people rest). And how will communism decide this - to give birth to children for the good of society? Sorry, but as for me, this will not solve the problem, since I do not understand how communism will help this - will society oblige or what?

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: Russian_Ninja

It is also possible to a monarchy - then church norms were in use and people multiplied.

All this has long since died out as unnecessary. Today the conditions are different and no monarchy, even if it is restored, will change anything. And do we really need degradation, not development? Do you want to live as our ancestors lived in huts near the torch, or as Soviet science fiction writers described the future?

Quote: Russian_Ninja

And how will communism solve this - to give birth to children for the benefit of society?

And he obliges and agitates. And he will create a basis for this, so that people themselves can give birth to children without a whole heap of problems falling on them that no one else cares about except them. I once published a list of what needs to be done to change the situation. There are a lot of problems that need to be solved, and for this you need a lot, a lot of money, which under capitalism cannot be forced to be spent by the capitalist simply because capitalism is constant competition and the pursuit of profit. And the capitalist is forced to save on everything so as not to go bankrupt. And it is impossible to force him to spend money because power is in the hands of the capitalist.

[Alexander Odintsov]

Everything is written correctly. The plan of the world elites. Religious war in Ukraine. Question: how long?

[Non-fighter]

One of the main problems of our society is trust. Trust in your neighbor, in friends, in the state in the end.
Unfortunately, we have been deceived a lot, and we have built a society of lies, where deceivers find themselves in better conditions. After that, do you want another increase in unions, albeit informal types of civil marriages?
Right now, they ran away. Where is the guarantee that the partner will not deceive at the most difficult moment?

[ZAZ968]

In 1918, after divorces, children began to be left with their mothers, before that they were left with their fathers. And appoint some kind of alimony. The woman is responsible for the "weather in the house" and she makes constant psychic terror. It turns out that SHE ruined the family, and she still has to pay money.
For this we have the first place in the world in male suicide. And it's been that way for 70 years.
Previously, the Girl was a virgin and a man practically bought her from her father. Yes, it looks like a purchase, but in this way the groom demonstrates his seriousness.
The current "girl" is far from a virgin, hundreds of men have walked through her. She knows how to manipulate. More precisely, she does not know how to do anything else, only manipulate.
Why should I drag this hole to the registry office if I know that I will be a vibrator (sometimes) and an ATM (always) for her and her bottomless Wishlist? I also know the divorce statistics very well. Why should I have a baby if I know that with a probability of 70 percent I will become alimony, and not a dad?
And the state, through judges, almost always leaves children with their mothers ...
In short, a very sore subject, I didn’t want to write a canvas here, but ... it turned out.
Previously, there was a church and indissoluble union, a dissolvable marriage has become. HOUSE 2 legalized bl-dstvo by replacing this word with "RELATIONSHIPS" ....
There is so much to write about this topic...

[TOR2]

Well, if we consider this topic, then probably from the point of view of men and in the style of our resource.
And so the introductory one: you are flying on a transport plane, a parachute on you that with a probability of 80% will not open. Author, will you jump? Where does 80% come from? Everyone knows how many marriages are now breaking up, and in 80% of cases the initiators are women. And all this is a consequence of a careless family policy skewed in one direction. It is very fashionable and easy to blame parachutists for everything. But for some reason, there are no questions to those who developed such a parachute system and to those who adopted it. And of course, this cohort will begin to make excuses that everything was done out of good intentions, only the result is sad. I hope everyone understands what is at stake.

[Vladimir80]

Quote: kreck

young, ambitious people who are not burdened with children and family problems are required for work, who can be mercilessly exploited

what area is this in?
I know a different situation - they are trying to take young family mortgage lenders or middle-aged mortgage lenders with children - when a person has responsibility for children, it is easier to persuade him to work overtime or do some kind of non-official work (go to a rally, you know what)

[Vladimir80]

Quote: kreck

And the "singles" live for themselves, are not burdened with responsibility and boredom can become a problem for government agencies

in general, yes ... that's why these singles are tied up to their ears in extreme sports, holidays in bali and goa, netflix and online games ... they are mental slaves, but not of the state, but of entertainment corporations

[Lech from Android.]

The patriarchal Russian family was destroyed during the years of collectivization and industrialization of the USSR ... add to this the WWI and WWII and Gorbachev's perestroika with liberal reformers ... now we are reaping the consequences of all this disgrace.
Whether we, as a people, will emerge from this demographic hole, only God knows.

[spektr9]

The patriarchal Russian family was destroyed during the years of collectivization and industrialization of the USSR...

How interesting, however, in the USSR there were no problems with dimography, 30 years later the population is dying out, which even the influx of migrants cannot shut up. And according to the cheers-liberal "patriots" there are two reasons for this: The people in the Russian Federation began to live very richly, and of course the bomb of the damned communists
But our government successfully fights the first thanks to inflation, and the second thanks to liberal propaganda

[KrolikZanuda]

The institution of the family has been killed by the total restriction of the rights of fathers. Many guys after the first relationship think simply - never get married again.

[NightmareIvanych]

Oh-oh-oh, who did it? That is, if a person does not see prospects for himself personally, then he must somehow see prospects for his children?! Well, a person does not want to live having children, but at the same time barely making ends meet, is he a monster because of this? Look what the serfs thought, they don’t want to give birth and work for food ...
PS Do not forget also about family law ....

[Plate]

Something Samsonov this time squeezed out a little. The volume is slightly larger than that of some passing news. Probably due to the fact that almost all conspiracy theories were removed ... But in the comments there is so much of it - oh! - dig-dig!

[Shchelokov Yura]

There is no alternative to capitalism. A person will work well only for himself. The country cannot afford to work poorly in today's global competition. Only one area should be outside the market - the sphere of mass media. It should contain only state and public institutions. The latter are funded by donations.

[spektr9]

There is no alternative to capitalism. A person will work well only for himself. The country cannot afford to work poorly in today's global competition.

O witness of holy capitalism, why, in 30 years of diligent, awesome work, did you manage to turn the sun of my superpower of which the USSR was into a third world country?
Who do you work for dear?

[pavel.tipin]

It is high time to recognize that raising your children is a socially useful work, just like any other. It must be paid for by the state, otherwise Russia will die out.