Russian expert historian discusses the origins and consequences of the migration crisis in Russia

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Russian expert historian discusses the origins and consequences of the migration crisis in Russia

Russian expert historian Klim Zhukov posted a podcast on his video blog, in which he analyzes the problems with migrants in our country, the origins of their occurrence and the consequences that an uncontrolled attitude towards this issue by the state can lead to.





The reason for these arguments was another unauthorized rally-march of representatives of Muslim communities, which took place on August 21 in the center of Moscow. The reason for the rally was a planned raid by employees of the Grom special forces in the prayer house (mosque) in Kotelniki on July 7, where law enforcement officers did not take off their shoes, as required by Muslim tradition.

At the same time, the law enforcement agencies of the capital did not interfere in any way with the illegal actions of the protesters. Although, the expert emphasizes, there was a gross violation of the law, none of the protesters was detained. It turns out, continues Zhukov, that no one will be responsible for the violation of several legislative norms at once.



And this despite the fact that in Russia even single-person pickets can be arrested, not to mention unauthorized mass protest events. There are many examples of this, the expert emphasized.

He drew attention to the fact that this "event" was organized by foreign intelligence services, which called on Muslims to protest through telegram channels. Most likely, the notorious Ukrainian TsIPSO (the center of information and psychological special operations is the Ukrainian propaganda unit of the Armed Forces of Ukraine) is also involved in this. In fact, it was an attempt to repeat the scenario of mass protests of migrants that swept France some time ago, the expert believes.

It's a five minute civil war. I don't know what else to call it

- Zhukov emphasized, noting that this time the situation did not become so dramatic, but everything could happen again, including in other cities of Russia.

Regarding these events, many questions to law enforcement officers arose both from ordinary Russian citizens, leaders of public opinion, and lawmakers. It is not clear why the authorities do not react in any way to such threats, which can at least undermine the situation in the country, and at most lead to events even worse than in France.

This is a very dangerous and alarming symptom.

says the historian.

He draws attention to the fact that in many cities there are already so-called "ghettos" of migrant diasporas, which have formed over the past few years. But this process could not happen by itself, Zhukov is sure.



It all started with the fact that residents of the southern states, the former Soviet republics, whose standard of living after the collapse of the USSR turned out to be much worse than in modern Russia, can enter our country without any control and regulation. As a result, a huge number of citizens of these countries turned out to be with us, and here, in fact, no one takes care of them. Most of them become illegal immigrants and work in fact on semi-slave conditions, without any rights and even the possibility of a normal life.

Migrants, deprived of the control and attention of the state, try to survive on their own, gathering in communities, living in asocial conditions. This becomes fertile ground for those who can provoke a mass of close-knit outcasts, most of them young people, and easily turn them against the existing authorities under the pretext of "fighting for their rights." The main ideology in this case is Muslim extremism.

Zhukov wonders who is behind all this flow of illegal immigrants, who benefits from their stay in our country in a semi-underground state. Obviously, this is beneficial for our big business, for which migrants have been and remain a cheap labor force for a very long time. At the same time, the state does not control this process in any way; moreover, it indulged it, including for the sake of improving demographic indicators.

Now these “ghetto” crowded, almost asocial elements united by national and religious motives, deprived of the attention and control of the state, have turned into a real “nutritious broth” for Western intelligence agencies who want, and most importantly have such experience, to destroy Russia from the inside.

This is an army for the mobilization of crime, organized and not very organized, including for spontaneous street

- the expert explains.

At the same time, the situation is not changing even now, large Russian business continues to massively import citizens from southern countries, naturally, not the most educated. The situation turns into a kind of snowball, which can turn into a real social bomb.

Everything will become even worse, Zhukov continues, if Russian citizens, outraged by “migrant lawlessness”, begin to solve this problem themselves using the same forceful methods. These will already be pogroms, which, naturally, the united and angry inhabitants of the southern countries will actively resist.

Our enemies are not migrants, but those capitalists who are ready to betray their own country for the sake of three hundred percent of the profit

the expert concludes.

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  1. +11
    25 August 2023 12: 27
    There will be a civil war with migrants and local Islamic nationalists who support them, this is a matter of time, you don’t need to be too smart not to see that we are moving towards this by leaps and bounds.
    1. +7
      25 August 2023 12: 43
      Gold words! So it will be, it is already happening. We are not afraid of an external enemy, not NATO and so on, the enemy is already around us, don’t even look at any construction site, listen .....
      1. +8
        25 August 2023 13: 00
        capitalists who are ready to betray their own country for the sake of three hundred percent profit
        1. 0
          25 August 2023 13: 21
          Quote from Uncle Lee
          capitalists who are ready to betray their own country for the sake of three hundred percent profit

          If the communists betrayed the country, then the capitalists will sell without hesitation.
      2. +5
        25 August 2023 16: 00
        What is the war on migrants? They can all be expelled from here in six months, if the authorities had such a desire. And there is nothing to talk about, they were originally driven here to steal money from them.
  2. +7
    25 August 2023 12: 28
    In order to "rock the boat" and get "one thing is not a punishment" from the bourgeoisie..i.e. so that the stolen goods are not taken away .. some children of perestroika can do many nasty things ..
  3. +9
    25 August 2023 12: 30
    Klim is right in many ways, but .... Not only "Our enemies are not migrants, but those capitalists who are ready to betray their own country for the sake of three hundred percent of the profit," but also our bureaucrats. It is also extremely beneficial for them to find uncontrolled migrants here. First of all, all diasporas must be banned. Any diaspora is an organized crime group. Moreover, with a bias towards getting into power. This is especially evident in the Siberian regions.
  4. +4
    25 August 2023 12: 35
    Klim Sanych, as a Marxist, somehow said the main thing. The current ruling class of capitalists has a support among the population and a consensus within itself, and any opposition, even left or right, does not have it and there is no chance of its appearance. Therefore, all of his similar videos, very sad in fact, are just a statement of fact, without any suggestions, recipes for how to change the current situation.
    And it's very strange to see him here. There are usually more bravura news providers.
    1. +2
      25 August 2023 13: 31
      Quote: Smoked
      this is just a statement of fact, without any suggestions, recipes, how to change the current situation.

      But he and his speech are focused on stating the facts, he put them together and brought them to us, and to the top. And recipes and proposals should be made by the government and the Security Council of the Russian Federation. Dmitry Anatolyevich everywhere stigmatizes with his cool posts. Here is just such a case for him, let him assemble a team of experts, law enforcement officers, develop and sign for the president, raise the public masses.
      A rolling stone gathers no moss.
  5. +8
    25 August 2023 12: 49
    We already have millions of migrants, and they cannot be expelled, that is, the situation cannot be corrected by any legal and legal methods, he correctly says a huge lump has accumulated, this cannot be resolved peacefully in any way. That's what's scary! You realize that one day this abscess will burst and it will be very painful and bloody for many, but this is the only way it will be solved! There are no other ways, the authorities need them, they won’t leave on their own, and people’s patience is not endless. It is enough to look at "their" holiday, which river fills all the streets of the area around the mosque, it even twitches, and if at that moment they are ordered that the hour has come to cut the infidels?!.....
    1. +7
      25 August 2023 12: 59
      Quote: Vadim S
      that is, no legal and legal methods can correct the situation

      you are wrong, and it’s legal and legal, the problem is that they don’t do it, migrants, especially in a situation of not quite legal stay in the country, are beneficial to construction bigwigs, they also unfasten those who have to expel them (migrants) by LEGAL methods
      1. +3
        25 August 2023 14: 07
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        you are wrong, and legal and legal you can, the problem is that they don’t

        What they don’t do is one thing, although a ban on temporary stay in Russia can be done with one legislative act.
        But in 1992-2013, 3 citizens of the Central Asian states received Russian citizenship through the FMS and the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
        For 22 years (1992 - 2013), 300 thousand citizens of Tajikistan received Russian citizenship, while in 2022 alone - 174 thousand!!! And these are those who, after the collapse of the Union, staged a persecution of the Russians, of whom there were 290 people, now they are barely gaining 000.
        And at the same time there were 5 million Tajiks, but now there are 10 million!!! This is the birth rate (and in 1950 there were only 1,5 million). So calculate how much you get. from these 474 "Russian citizens of Tajik origin" who do not even have respect for us, and then there are migrants from six other Asian countries. Think you live.
    2. +7
      25 August 2023 12: 59
      Well, get a hunting ticket, then if there are no contraindications, get a hunting permit and buy a pump-action or semi-automatic smoothbore weapon, stock up on ammo, buy a good Japanese two-band radio and monitor the situation in the country. We have not only migrants, we are now eroding the state's monopoly on violence, private armed formations are appearing, armed territorial defense units are being created in the regions. You will have to see a lot of interesting things, but among us pioneers it was like "Be ready!".
    3. +1
      25 August 2023 13: 00
      Quote: Vadim S
      authorities need them

      the authorities do not need them, they are needed by those who earn money on them
    4. +6
      25 August 2023 13: 22
      Quote: Vadim S
      We already have millions of migrants, and they cannot be expelled,

      Close the markets where they trade for cash without paying taxes, and the migrants will leave on their own. No need for these raids, mask shows. Just close and that's it.
      It's the same story with construction companies. The company evades taxes, hires migrants - put the owner behind bars. Illegals work at the municipal facility - the mayor is in prison.
    5. +1
      25 August 2023 23: 22
      Prohibit reception and slowly weed out ... Poor understanding and talking - go home. There is an administrative .. and more than once - home, etc ....
      With the preservation of fingerprints and eyes. So that they don’t forge documents at home .. And Ours, for a fake, immediately sew high treason ....
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    1. +4
      25 August 2023 13: 11
      As I understand it, this is a sample of tsipso on the contrary.
      1. 0
        25 August 2023 13: 53
        Quote: Smoked
        this is a cisso pattern in reverse.

        no, this is an example of not knowing the topic
        1. +1
          25 August 2023 14: 15
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          no, this is an example of not knowing the topic

          He knows everything well.
      2. +1
        25 August 2023 14: 15
        Quote: Smoked
        As I understand it, this is a sample of tsipso on the contrary.

        No, not even vice versa, but directly.
    2. +4
      25 August 2023 13: 30
      Everyone knows how SOBR works. Lots of complaints about him. For example, they broke into my neighbor's house, in front of the children they killed a dog that was not chained.
      Are you saying that SOBR just broke into a neighbor's place for prevention? Killed a dog? The dog is a pity, of course, but it was a threat.
      A healthy labor collective will bring up any migrant.
      Considering that for the most part, labor collectives consist mainly of migrants, then your statement is extremely debatable.
    3. +3
      25 August 2023 13: 52
      Quote: ism_ek
      Articles of outright Nazis are published.

      can you prove it, I mean the Nazi views of K. Zhukov?
      Quote: ism_ek
      then SOBR had to go there on Friday - it's not clear.

      that is, on Monday it is possible, on Saturday it is possible, but on Friday it is impossible?!!!
      can you even refer to the law of the Russian Federation?!!!
      I am not interested in the norms of Islam in this matter
      Quote: ism_ek
      Why couldn't all issues be resolved with the leadership of the mosque on another day?

      why do they need to be solved on ANOTHER day if they need to be solved exactly on the day when they arrived?!
      Quote: ism_ek
      For example, they broke into my neighbor's house, in front of the children they killed a dog that was not chained.

      to the neighbor for no reason howl?!!!
      Quote: ism_ek
      A healthy labor collective will bring up any migrant.

      are you kidding?!!!
      where did you see ONE migrant, for a "whole healthy team", the problem is that the team COMPLETELY CONSISTS OF MIGRANTS
      Quote: ism_ek
      Markets, vegetable warehouses, etc., where they sell for cash, must be closed.

      you will be surprised, but ALL MARKETS are traded for cash
      Quote: ism_ek
      It is not true that big business needs illegal immigrants. They are needed by criminal structures, various small contractors who win tenders for a penny and do not pay taxes.

      what nonsense, do you have "small" contractors building entire neighborhoods?!!!
      Russian criminal structures don’t need them either, there is competition there, and migrants create criminal entities solely on an ethnic basis
      Quote: ism_ek
      A separate topic is construction. All contractors must work in white.

      Are you even on topic?
      they work in white, just under an agreement with a migrant, the issue of social contributions and taxes falls on him personally, since he is like with a patent
      Quote: ism_ek
      Well, about prayer houses. There are none in Tajikistan or Uzbekistan. Most of the migrants from there come to us as atheists, they get hooked on religion thanks to our "brothers from the Caucasus".

      Have you ever been to SA?
      1. +1
        25 August 2023 14: 26
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        Have you ever been to SA?

        I have never been further than Lvov.
      2. +1
        25 August 2023 14: 32
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        Articles of outright Nazis are published.

        can you prove it, I mean the Nazi views of K. Zhukov?

        He was not given this task.
        But here I will give a short excerpt from the article in order to understand how migrants from Tajikistan get used to Russia and (only Russian citizens of Tajik origin are about 500 people, not counting temporary ones)

        Dushanbe worries: how Tajik migrants settled in Russia
        The authorities of Tajikistan intend to find out how labor migrants from this republic live in Russia and whether they have any problems there. To this end, government inspections will be sent from Dushanbe to Novosibirsk, Yekaterinburg, Ufa, Moscow and St. Petersburg in the near future, IA TASS reported with reference to the Ministry of Labor of the Central Asian Republic.
        “On behalf of the government of Tajikistan, working groups were organized to familiarize themselves with the living conditions of labor migrants in Russia and conduct explanatory work among them ... Five groups were organized, they were sent to Moscow, St. Petersburg, Yekaterinburg, Ufa and Novosibirsk”, - informs the Tajik department.
        The groups of inspectors included representatives of relevant ministries. It is also noted that the process of labor migration is under the special control of President Emomali Rahmon, who promised to take all measures to protect the rights and interests of his compatriots abroad.
        However, a natural question arises as to how legitimate such a check is in general. After all, Tajikistan is not a member of the Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU) - an organization of regional economic integration, created precisely to ensure and facilitate the movement of labor, services, finance and goods within the territory of the member states.

        And whether Russia gave the go-ahead to Dushanbe for the arrival of a delegation of Tajik inspectors in the country is unknown.
      3. -1
        25 August 2023 15: 29
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        Have you ever been to SA?

        I've been there once, but it's been a long time.
        I communicate with migrants a lot. In Uzbekistan, you can go to jail for a beard.
        1. +1
          25 August 2023 15: 56
          Quote: ism_ek
          I've been there once, but it's been a long time.

          and I was born there and lived for 40 years, so tell your nonsense especially about the beard elsewhere

    4. +2
      25 August 2023 14: 25
      Quote: ism_ek
      Well, about prayer houses. There are none in Tajikistan or Uzbekistan. Most of the migrants from there come to us as atheists,

      Well, of course you screwed up. These are migrants from Central Asia - atheists!!! And in Russia they got hooked on the Koran !!!
    5. +4
      25 August 2023 15: 21
      Quote: ism_ek
      VO has come ... Articles of outright Nazis are published.
      You can understand the indignation over the attack on the mosque. It is not clear what the SOBR needed on Friday. Why couldn't all issues be resolved with the leadership of the mosque on another day? Or meet a contingent on the street?

      Therefore, Friday is a special day for Muslims, on this day they gather for service in the mosque (on other days they perform five daily prayers outside the mosque).
      Who told you that this place is a mosque? If I'm not mistaken, the place was declared as a "prayer house", not registered as an object of religious worship.
      On other days, except for Friday, you will find few people. Are you serious about deciding with the "leadership of the mosque" and waiting at the exit?!

      Quote: ism_ek

      Everyone knows how SOBR works. Lots of complaints about him. For example, they broke into my neighbor's house, in front of the children they killed a dog that was not chained.

      wink How? Very interesting. You "worked" in SOBR, or were their "client".
      Quote: ism_ek

      As for the problem itself... First of all, it is necessary to fight against illegal employment. A healthy labor collective will bring up any migrant.
      Markets, vegetable warehouses, etc., where they sell for cash, must be closed. Open normal stores and distribution centers. Yes, it will be more expensive, but in which country do you want to live ...

      Well, we go to the Lenta, Magnit, Perekrestok, Pyaterochka shopping centers, as well as regional retailers. Migrants work there, do they have Russian citizenship, work permits? Discounters - the same "vegetable stores". And who is the main handyman staff there?

      Quote: ism_ek
      It is not true that big business needs illegal immigrants. They are needed by criminal structures, various small contractors who win tenders for a penny and do not pay taxes.
      Large businesses need diligent workers with a Russian passport or residence permit, medical insurance and good knowledge of Russian
      A separate topic is construction. All contractors must work in white. Then there will be no ethnic brigades.

      Previously, often flying in and out of Tolmachevo Airport (Novosibirsk), I watched the construction personnel of the contractor (a Turkish company, if I'm not mistaken), the teams consist of builders - immigrants from Sr. Asia, in Russian, to put it mildly, not a belmes.
      A new passenger terminal is being built in Kamchatka, the owner is the same group of companies that owns Tolmachevo, the general contractor is Crocus, the work is being carried out by Turkish enterprises, the workers have been brought ... well, you know.

      Quote: ism_ek
      Well, about prayer houses. There are none in Tajikistan or Uzbekistan. Most of the migrants from there come to us as atheists, they get hooked on religion thanks to our "brothers from the Caucasus".

      You are mistaken, modern Islam actively uses social networks and instant messengers, the younger generation of the countries of Central Asia is becoming the most religiously radically oriented, unlike their parents (born, raised, educated and lived at a conscious age in the USSR). Just the disorder in life, the inability to get an education and a decent job in their homeland, pushes them to join the ranks of radical Islamic groups, to unite. Their youth have a guideline - a "super-Muslim", not a Kyrgyz, not a Tajik, not an Uzbek, not a Uyghur, not a Kazakh, but a single Muslim brother in faith, who will be helped everywhere, even in Naryan-Mar or in Moscow.
  7. +5
    25 August 2023 13: 19
    Those who are older remember Yury Shchekochikhin's article "The Lion is preparing to jump", published in Literaturka before the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1988, which shocked the public and produced the effect of an exploding bomb. But the authorities reacted negatively to it. Then there was an article "The lion jumped", these are publications by Yuri Shchekochikhin. But it was too late to do anything. Now everything is exactly the same as then (whoever read it knows). There is almost no time left to think.
    Yuri Shchekochikhin died under unclear circumstances at the age of 53.
  8. +3
    25 August 2023 13: 45
    One gets the impression that the state that forms the Russian nation is slowly trying to reduce as much as possible. They do everything to make Russians give birth less. The economy, education, upbringing, medicine, salary, ecology are done in such a way that the average Russian thinks many times before giving birth to a second child.
    And these Central Asians do not need much, they come here and understand that they have ended up in a great country for them, but they only need to modify it for themselves to make Bukhara out of it with the Muslim laws of the Middle Ages.
    1. +2
      25 August 2023 13: 55
      Quote: leks
      They do everything to make Russians give birth less. The economy, education, upbringing, medicine, salary, ecology are done in such a way that the average Russian thinks many times before giving birth to a second child.

      you will be surprised, but all this is in no way connected with the family and children, what kind of salary, more precisely, did the Russian peasant have income ?!
      1. +1
        25 August 2023 14: 40
        What does the Russian peasant have to do with it, or are you proposing to return to serfdom, so that people begin to live like in the 19th century, so that they give birth to 5-10 children, because the death rate was high, and working hands were needed, so what do you think!?
        Just looking at what is happening in the country, people refuse to give birth not only to the second, but also to the first child. Why in the 90s they stopped having two or three children in a family at least in contrast to the 80s where at least two were the norm. Probably all for the same reason that it was not, there is no confidence in the future that they will be able to raise children.
        1. +1
          25 August 2023 22: 32
          Quote: leks
          What does the Russian peasant have to do with it, or are you proposing to return to serfdom, so that people begin to live like in the 19th century, so that they give birth to 5-10 children, because the death rate was high, and working hands were needed, so what do you think!?

          the question is not serfdom, you wrote nonsense, to remind you how many children there were in the noble family of the Ulyanovs?!!
          the birth rate does not depend on income and living conditions in any way, it is determined only by how it is treated in society, if in society the main point is to satisfy your own needs, then no matter how much you earn and how you live, the birth rate will be extremely low
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    1. +3
      25 August 2023 14: 35
      Quote: 0901
      And in general, the concepts of "Muslim" and "migrant" are unequal concepts ...

      Any migrant from Central Asia falls under the influence of the Diaspora and the words migrant and Muslim become synonymous. You can't stay in the diaspora - only a migrant.
  10. +4
    25 August 2023 14: 39
    He said everything correctly!
    Russian citizens, outraged by the "migrant lawlessness", will begin to solve this problem themselves by the same forceful methods.

    Everything goes to this.
  11. -3
    25 August 2023 20: 08
    Civilization has its own natural selection. There are prosperous peoples, there are minor ones, there are dying ones ....... Traditions, habits of the people determine its fate.

    The Russians abolished the USSR "so as not to feed anyone" - - and got what logically follows from this.

    If anyone has brains upside down in their heads, it would be better for everyone to have fewer of them. Regardless of their merit in past centuries.

    I think it's good for humanity as a whole...... laughing
    1. 0
      25 August 2023 20: 20
      Quote: ivan2022
      I think it's good for humanity as a whole...... laughing

      From common people, or what? Rootless cosmopolitan? wink laughing
  12. +1
    25 August 2023 21: 52
    The CSTO was established on May 15, 1992. Not so much to protect the newly created Central Asian countries from attacks by neighbors and each other, but to prevent NATO from penetrating the territories of these countries. I remember that there were such attempts, accompanied by great excitement of our authorities. NATO bases were offered with accompanying monetary nishtyaks.
    This is not mentioned by Zhukov.
    And this is the main thing.
    The poorly controlled, traumatic invasion of Asians into our country is the payment for the fact that the former Soviet republics have not yet sold out to the United States.
    But Armenia is already ready for sale and therefore wants to leave the CSTO. And there, you see, somehow suddenly and immediately a NATO base will appear in Armenia with nuclear weapons aimed at us.
    1. -2
      26 August 2023 17: 17
      This is the payment of the people, who work like a horse and finish him off like an old horse .....

      Why? Because.......
      It is not enough for a person to be only a workhorse; for THIS, no magical "good master" will create human conditions for him.

      To all centaurs with a human body and a horse head - a big hello!
  13. +1
    26 August 2023 08: 53
    "who is behind all this flow of illegal immigrants, who benefits from their stay in our country in a semi-underground state."
    Yes, not a strange, but a stupid question. Whoever allowed it is profitable! Zhukov says everything correctly, but he is afraid to directly blame the authorities for this mess. Grudinin, Platoshkin, Strelkov, Prigozhin also made claims to the authorities through the media. And where are they?
  14. 0
    3 September 2023 14: 34
    Yes, migrants should be under the control of the authorities.