Someone is very uncomfortable in old Simferopol

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Someone is very uncomfortable in old Simferopol


"The blooming Crimea was turned into a lupanar."
A. I. Kuprin, from a letter to F. D. Batyushkov

We have already written about the numerous investment projects that the new Russian authorities, who came there in 2014, developed in Crimea and Sevastopol. Among them there are many very expedient, but there are also frankly controversial ones.



Color international


Among them, it is simply impossible not to single out the most scandalous and hardly anything useful - this is "renovation", or rather, if you carefully read the plan itself, the demolition of the Old City in Simferopol. Despite the fact that in recent years, and this cannot be denied, the Old Town has become a hotbed of crime and drugs, which has an eerie appearance.

But from an architectural, and simply from a domestic point of view, this is undoubtedly historical heritage. The former Ukrainian authorities did not deal with the old Simferopol at all, pretending that the problem does not exist, while the Russian ones want to solve all problems with the help of excavators.

The old city of Simferopol is the historical center of the medieval Akmesdzhit, the development of which, after the annexation of Crimea to Russia by Catherine II, led to the formation of Simferopol. It is divided into three parts: Lower, Upper and the so-called Shanghai.

The Old City (Ashagy Eski Sheer) is closer to the city center, Karaimskaya Street, where most of the monuments of the history of the capital of Crimea are located. The Upper Old Town (Yukary Eski Sheer) is closer to the Petrovsky Rocks and the Petrovsky Balka; and the notorious Shanghai (Gypsy settlement, Chingene Maallesi) is actually only two blocks of the Lower Old City.


There is the main cathedral mosque of Simferopol Kebir-Jami, a very spectacular tenement house, a Karaite kenassa, a number of mosques less famous than the cathedral Kebir-Jami, the house of St. theology, but for fundamental work on purulent surgery), Gypsy mosque, synagogues, Greek market stalls.

This is a completely incomplete list, but it reflects the multinationality of the region (as well as the whole of Simferopol), which was sung about in a complimentary song of the NEP era, apparently. In it, still sometimes performed at weddings by musicians, there were also words about the Old City with politically incorrect ethnic definitions: “Tatars, Greeks, Ukrainians and various Chuchmeks live here, and Katsaps are also up to ...”

Well, what, of course, is the political correctness of the district hooligans. In the years to which the song belongs, such a harmless presentation of information about its multinational composition did not have any tramp overtones at that time.

Except for the fact that one of the parts of the region - "Shanghai", also known as "Gypsy Sloboda", "Chingene Maallesi" in Crimean Tatar, was populated almost exclusively by Turkified gypsies and the so-called Gurbets.

Dregs and elite


But after the war and a wave of deportations, multinationality played a cruel joke on the region. He was empty for a long time. Settlers were placed anywhere, but not there: after the transfer of the Crimea to the Ukrainian SSR, large-scale housing construction began in Simferopol, for statistics, someone had to be placed there, and Khrushchevs were more preferable than houses without sewerage in the Old Town.

It was there that the dregs of society settled. As the repatriation of the Crimean Tatars and other deported nationalities, they were often given housing in the Old City, someone bought it himself, because he could not buy anything else in Simferopol. Therefore, only the social classes were settled there, who had no opportunity for anything else.

Part of the housing in general is still in the ownership of the Majlis. Well, those who live there have no rights and got their corners in houses with a common yard and no less common log toilet in the middle of it. So it went from the lordly hands of gentlemen Dzhemilev and Chubarov, as well as local functionaries. What to do next with such housing, the Russian administration cannot decide, but rather does not want to.

As a result, what happened: an area a stone's throw from Sovetskaya Square and Kirov Avenue, that is, in the center of the city, where it is better not to go after dark if you are not local or do not know anyone there. Even inspectors from Krymenergo during the day (let alone at night) do not go there with checks without escort or policemen, or just strong men.


Broken, it is not known how many years not repaired roads, tram rails that have been forgotten to be removed since 1970, when the Simferopol tram was liquidated. There are bunches of telephone wires hanging from poles (someone else needs city phones), gatherings of youngsters squatting by the fences - all this is modern Eski Sheer.

Sorry, goodbye, Eski Sheer


If, suppose, only emergency houses are demolished (and there are at least a quarter of them), then most of these shacks were built before the deportation of peoples objectionable to Stalin. It is they who determine the historical appearance of Simferopol, which was once.

The destruction of these low-value houses with a toilet in the common courtyard, straightening and widening the narrow winding streets of the Mediterranean style will only lead to the disappearance of the Crimean flavor in one more corner of the peninsula.


It would be better if they left it as it is - with gas-filled long-distance trucks, sewage trucks pumping feces out of "filthy pits", broken asphalt. But they would give people something else: funding for the renovation of their homes, which does not imply deviations from the regional style.

And let there be at least an apartment of an American billionaire inside - but outwardly save everything. As for the social composition of the Old City, let the police figure it out. But it probably doesn't work well.

This is the last thing - for the sake of investments from the center, ruin your history, bite the breast of the mother who feeds you. But from the Simferopol politicians, apparently, this is more extreme than the last. When and what will be the last is still unknown. And what is the difference between the extreme and the last - ask any person who served.
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  1. +8
    27 August 2023 06: 05
    I have not been to Simferopol and have not seen its Old Town. But there are cities in which part of the city is old, not according to historical criteria, but according to the state of the buildings there. It is better and easier to plan and build a new one, especially since these are not the ruins of Chersonesos and there is no historical value.
    1. +3
      27 August 2023 06: 49
      Of course, everything is colorful there .. It just won’t work out, as in Irkutsk or Tomsk.
      1. +7
        27 August 2023 07: 22
        Yes, by the way, I’ll add .. In this song, the word is something else, and not “Ukrainians.” And why is the word “ka ts and p” not prohibited on the site?
      2. 0
        29 August 2023 14: 55
        Yes, there is "color" in Irkutsk. Someone lives there. But tourists love it. And to be honest, they already got these old wrecks. Everything is "monuments". The owners have no money to fix it. This is outrageous money. And no business will invest.
    2. +4
      27 August 2023 07: 37
      At one time, the first president of Uzbekistan, Islam Abduganievich Karimov, seriously took up the restructuring of the Old City in Tashkent, a hotbed of Islamism. First of all, modern highways were laid, which required the demolition of various kinds of huts with duvals (fences), then large-scale housing and social construction. Now it is a modern urban area.
  2. +7
    27 August 2023 06: 18
    Somehow we accidentally drove into this area (the navigator dragged on), so it's just a nightmare. A friend said that probably nothing had been restored here since the war. The houses even outwardly look dirty and filthy. This is not just wretchedness, this is devastation, the real one. I'm talking about the road in general. Pieces of ancient asphalt mixed with cobblestones and in places the lack of any coating. So if they take it down, it will be better in my opinion.
    1. +2
      27 August 2023 06: 32
      Uh-huh ..... "Nothing was restored" .... Old Khrushchev, where my relatives live. Probably since the time of Khan Uzbek? .....
  3. +4
    27 August 2023 06: 25
    And in general, in new Russia, and not only in old Simferopol, "someone" is not very comfortable ...... If the number of drug addicts has increased over 30 years from 50 thousand to 7 million. It must be assumed that this did not happen from comfort...
  4. +5
    27 August 2023 06: 37
    Give this area for free or for a ruble to any construction tycoon, and let him clean up this garbage. I think that the residents of this area usually do not have documents for housing, and in general, most likely, there are no general documents. Or just demolish this "praise" and set up a park there. soldier
    1. +5
      27 August 2023 16: 08
      You think badly about them, and documents and everything else, too, when at one time there were serious talks about the demolition of the Old City, they began to register there en masse, what to do with it? Nothing, it will resolve itself, every town and village has its own Shanghai, they have been and will be, this situation suits everyone. Guards garrison, military unit and on its territory -Shanghai, that's how? And more than he is sure, and now there is, And in Simferopol, more or less available land will simply run out - they will take on the Old City, only the heels will sparkle, while they are finishing the winery on Kubik, they say there are plans to close the Semashko hospital, so live Old City, live and prosper! Have you seen the king-father, white, red, trampled you with a German boot, and where are they all? Where is the sewer!
      1. +2
        27 August 2023 20: 40
        I haven’t been to Simferopol and I don’t know what kind of mess or order is going on there. In our city, try not to let the Sibenergo controller in. Just turn off and a fine to heaven.
        But the main thing in any city is crime and drugs. Only because of this it is necessary to carry out a total round-up and then demolish everything with bulldozers to zero.
        When demolition is announced, all new registration is prohibited, housing is given only to those who are registered there at that moment. But if the housing is privatized, or your own, then they will give as many squares as there are in the occupied living space, although there will be at least as many registered there. But if the housing is municipal, then yes they will give it according to social norms. But maybe something has changed, I don't know.
        In general, Crimeans need to remember that Crimea is Russia and they must live honestly and according to the laws, so as not to end up on the southern coast of the Arctic Ocean. hi
  5. +4
    27 August 2023 06: 40
    Something completely insane is seen in the acute desire to "restorate, restore, but not restore." It is clear that there are oaks, the shade of which A. S. Pushkin rested, or the estate where Lev Nikolaevich lived and walked barefoot "neither fish nor meat." A historical building should cause joy of the soul, delight, such as:

    Modern building materials and technologies make it possible to maintain the style in the architecture of any territory where people once lived in unsanitary conditions. To continue to preserve these slums is a waste of time, effort and money (my opinion).
    The architectural appearance of the settlement should correspond to the wishes, tastes of the inhabitants living in it and the requirements of the canons of urban planning. There should be no depersonalization of the place of residence. There should be no typical buildings of railway stations, theaters, office buildings. Each city must have its own name and its own face. So that the well-known New Year's story does not repeat itself.
    1. +4
      27 August 2023 07: 22
      So yes, but standard construction is much cheaper on the scale of the city budget and the country than each house is made individually. For this reason, only standard projects are mass-produced. Well, do not forget about landscape design, which can significantly diversify the look of typical buildings for a small investment. And yes, in what country is every high-rise residential building made according to its own unique project, and after construction, another neighboring one is built according to a completely different project?
    2. +6
      27 August 2023 08: 09
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Something completely insane is seen in the acute desire to "restorate, restore, but not restore." It is clear that there are oaks, the shade of which A. S. Pushkin rested, or the estate where Lev Nikolaevich lived and walked barefoot "neither fish nor meat." A historical building should cause joy of the soul, delight, such as:

      Modern building materials and technologies make it possible to maintain the style in the architecture of any territory where people once lived in unsanitary conditions. To continue to preserve these slums is a waste of time, effort and money (my opinion).
      The architectural appearance of the settlement should correspond to the wishes, tastes of the inhabitants living in it and the requirements of the canons of urban planning. There should be no depersonalization of the place of residence. There should be no typical buildings of railway stations, theaters, office buildings. Each city must have its own name and its own face. So that the well-known New Year's story does not repeat itself.

      I'll add my opinion as well. Here you go along the BAM, and each station has its own, individual station! For more than 3000 km, not a single repeat!
      Beauty! Diversity! All built on a grand scale, with high quality, with excellent finishes!
      1. 0
        29 August 2023 14: 59
        There are architects. Let them work. Happy to take on any project. Whether it's old or new. No one wants to build typical high-rise buildings. I don't know anyone who doesn't want to work on an interesting assignment.
  6. +1
    27 August 2023 06: 47
    And what is the difference between the extreme and the last - ask any person who served.

    Superstition is worse than unbelief.
    And the word “last” is also avoided by people whose profession is associated with a risk to life. And this superstition can be humanly understood, but is it permissible to say this from the point of view of the Russian language, I will write at the end of the article.

    When to say "extreme" - illiterate?
    https://dzen.ru/a/XOa_fq5v7QCz-61n
  7. +4
    27 August 2023 07: 05
    Under the USSR, there were plans for demolition and reconstruction, under Ukraine there were also plans, now again, the problem is that each demolished yard must be built with a ten-story building, so many people are registered there. And what other "Mediterranean flavor" did the authors see there? Well, the Console with the Monolith does not want to climb there, otherwise it would have been a long time ago, the center place. In their youth, they went there day and night, for some reason, Soyuz-Victan, by the way, remained alive, aka Medoff was born precisely on the "drunken corner". where are the tram rails left, you have to ask your sidekick
  8. +3
    27 August 2023 07: 15
    These followers of Vorfolameev are strange, which means the old part of Naples or some other European city is the norm, the color is great! But the same part of the city in Russia is horror. Just do not pay attention to these howls and wringing of hands with Yaroslavna crying.
    1. AUL
      +6
      27 August 2023 07: 30
      Quote: evgen1221
      it means the old part of Naples or some other European city is the norm, the color is great! But the same part of the city in Russia is horror.

      Are you seriously comparing the old part of Naples and the slums of Simferopol?
      1. man
        +5
        27 August 2023 09: 38
        Quote from AUL
        Quote: evgen1221
        it means the old part of Naples or some other European city is the norm, the color is great! But the same part of the city in Russia is horror.

        Are you seriously comparing the old part of Naples and the slums of Simferopol?

        in the slums it is much more convenient to sell drugs
      2. +2
        27 August 2023 10: 58
        Quote from AUL
        Are you seriously comparing the old part of Naples and the slums of Simferopol?


        The man was referring to the troubled parts of big cities in Europe.
        Yes, there is, but in terms of municipal status, they cannot be compared with the old part of Simferopol.
      3. +2
        27 August 2023 17: 48
        Yes, seriously, like any city older than 100 years. Bologna, Marseille, Philadelphia, Sydney, Mambasa, Sevastopol, Vladivostok, there is essentially no difference except for the climate affecting the conservation. old buildings everywhere. We have ours, they have theirs.
  9. +9
    27 August 2023 07: 15
    And let there be at least an apartment of an American billionaire inside - but outwardly save everything.

    Question to the authors - Why leave this "historical memory, if inspectors from Krymenergo do not go there, without the police, but a simple tourist even more so.
    Yes, in a couple of decades, these buildings will be just dust. Khitrovka was removed back in the 30s, like an abscess of capitalism.
    1. 0
      1 September 2023 10: 55
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Question to the authors - Why leave this "historical memory, if inspectors from Krymenergo do not go there, without the police, but a simple tourist even more so.

      The answer is given at the end of the article:
      It would be better if they left it as it is - with gas-filled long-distance trucks, sewage trucks pumping feces out of "filthy pits", broken asphalt. But they would give people something else: funding for the renovation of their homes, which does not imply deviations from the regional style.

      That is, this historical memory is needed to cash out budget money under the pretext of restoration.

      With the same success, you can give to those living on the territory of St. Petersburg Aprashka financing for the renovation of their homes, which does not imply deviations from the regional style. laughing
  10. +3
    27 August 2023 07: 27
    But they would give people something else: financing for the repair of their homes, non-derogatory from the regional style.
    fool Haven't the local authorities tried to simply repair the appearance of houses and replace communications? feel
    1. +3
      27 August 2023 08: 39
      For the 200th cities, everything was painted and whitened everywhere, but there was Soviet power, it would have been five years old and the authors of the article were left without a fee, and so, some feeling from the article, they took my hometown and .....
    2. +5
      27 August 2023 10: 40
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Haven't the local authorities tried to simply repair the appearance of houses and replace communications?

      From my own life experience, I have long understood that it is easier and cheaper to build a new one than to repair such an old one as presented in the article. I don’t understand the logic of the authors who advocate leaving this “color” for posterity. What is the historical and architectural value of this squalor? Who needs it and who will admire these slums? Rather, people will admire and rejoice at such buildings as we see today in Mariupol. Definitely - to demolish with a bulldozer! Another thing is that Crimea does not yet have enough funds for this. I hope so far.
      1. +1
        27 August 2023 12: 24
        From my own life experience, I have long understood that it is easier and cheaper to build a new one than to repair such an old one as presented in the article. I don’t understand the logic of the authors who advocate leaving this “color” for posterity. What is the historical and architectural value of this squalor? Who needs it and who will admire these slums?
        Quite right. As in the "Golden Calf" by Ilf and Petrov, when Ostap and Koreiko were returning back, they asked a local enthusiast in an Asian town to show them various slums and hot places, to which he told them - you just have to look, but we live here. So everything was taken down.
    3. 0
      27 August 2023 22: 05
      Haven't the local authorities tried to simply repair the appearance of houses and replace communications?
      Ahahahaha. Laughed!!!! For a capitalist, at his own expense, to sort out a problem that is not his?! Petrosyan's laurels haunt you?!
  11. +6
    27 August 2023 07: 29
    I don’t know how it is in Simferopol, but in Khabarovsk, houses of historical (cultural) significance have long been restored to preserve their original appearance. They are located mainly in the center of the city and do not spoil it in any way, but rather decorate it. From them you can judge how the city center looked before the revolution. The old junk, which has no meaning, is naturally demolished and new houses are built in its place. Who needs "shanghai" and "suburbs"?
    1. man
      +5
      27 August 2023 09: 49
      Quote: rotmistr60
      I don’t know how it is in Simferopol, but in Khabarovsk, houses of historical (cultural) significance have long been restored to preserve their original appearance. They are located mainly in the center of the city and do not spoil it in any way, but rather decorate it. From them you can judge how the city center looked before the revolution. The old junk, which has no meaning, is naturally demolished and new houses are built in its place. Who needs "shanghai" and "suburbs"?

      It’s just that the Far East are terrible egoists, they don’t care about the well-being of drug lords at all ... on which I congratulate you! hi
  12. +7
    27 August 2023 10: 40
    before the deportation of peoples objectionable to Stalin.
    Yes, yes. Eating babies is completely boring..!" AFFtors - fool maybe you will write better for "jellyfish"?
    1. +4
      27 August 2023 22: 11
      maybe you will write better for "jellyfish"?
      Many simply do not know that according to the then Soviet law, the male population of these "peoples" should have been almost completely destroyed, with the exception of a few not participating in the betrayal. So Comrade Stalin acted very gently. He violated Soviet laws and therefore there are still Crimean Tatars, Ingush, Chechens. And then they turned him into a monster. Yes, these peoples are praying for Comrade Stalin, day and night, that they still exist. But it is inconvenient for them to remember this, because the betrayal of their ancestors immediately comes out.
  13. +5
    27 August 2023 12: 20
    Some of the housing is still there. owned by the Majlis.
    In fact, the Mejlis is an illegitimate organization on the territory of the Russian Federation. When Crimea was Ukrainian (until 2014), it was also formally illegitimate, but they turned a blind eye to this so that he would fight the pro-Russian sentiments of the Crimeans.
    1. +3
      27 August 2023 15: 22
      The authorities will play with the Tatars, everyone wanted to please them, they legalized the land under squatting, and they had about 5-6, or even more plots, so if anyone is waiting for the "liberators", it's them
      1. +2
        27 August 2023 15: 46
        The authorities will play with the Tatars, appease everyone they wanted, the land under squatters was legalized
        Everything is simple there - they bought the top, and the rest are like ruminants. Again, about the "squatters" - most of them are still standing, nobody needs them - in order to build at least something there, funds are needed.
  14. 0
    27 August 2023 17: 07
    There is land, there are many beautiful places on earth (Crimea).
    Architecture and engineering is already in the red book of Russia.
  15. -4
    27 August 2023 17: 31
    Never been there and never will be. My foot will not set foot in that Crimea. Until the locals go through Russification. After all, they all persistently and meticulously went through Ukrainization since 1954. And Russification - never.
    1. +5
      27 August 2023 18: 16
      Never been there and never will be. My foot will not set foot in that Crimea. Until the locals go through Russification.
      Rare idiocy, in the last sentence bordering on Nazism!
      1. -3
        27 August 2023 19: 53
        Quote: 3x3zsave
        [i] in the last sentence bordering on Nazism!
        Strange logic. In your opinion, Ukrainization is normal, and Russification is already Nazism?
        1. 0
          28 August 2023 02: 54
          What is Russification? For the sake of interest, I want to understand, am I Russian or what? From many ponies, I see only one desire to snatch here, at least something, land, real estate, "listen, Masha, and they speak here with such an accent" all Russian scammers and rogues flocked to Crimea after 2014+ their own party of Regions remained
          1. 0
            28 August 2023 08: 36
            And what generous locals do not strive to snatch, every day, every hour and every minute?! Oh well ....)) All the scammers flocked to the resort area much earlier. And live comfortably in it)
      2. 0
        4 September 2023 13: 29
        Quote: 3x3zsave
        Never been there and never will be. My foot will not set foot in that Crimea. Until the locals go through Russification.
        Rare idiocy, in the last sentence bordering on Nazism!

        She is a bot, and an inadequately configured one, there are even discrepancies within sentences...
  16. +2
    27 August 2023 23: 53
    And what is the difference between the extreme and the last - ask any person who served.
    Stupid superstition. Do not have another one.
  17. +2
    28 August 2023 08: 35
    As is usually the case, in an effort to draw money on themselves, the most dexterous of historians "stand up in defense." Their goal is quite obvious - to become one of the structures that prohibits and "regulates" development. Preventing people from living a normal life is the easiest way to get paid for nothing.
    Only the builders begin to demolish another bedbug, and already the "guards" are right there. On the one hand, they are pulling money from the builders, on the other hand, they are knocking out federal funds for the preservation of the "unique historical" bedbug. Luzhkov once simply set about burning all this "historical heritage" so that the city would not be strangled by the hand of a dead man.
    A few monuments are good. A massive attack by "historical heritage" on innocent cities is a hotbed of corruption and parasitism. People need to live and go to the future. All these "roots" are actually a noose on the throat of a living organism ...