German media: Kyiv needs to draft three million people into the army and wage a war of attrition

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German media: Kyiv needs to draft three million people into the army and wage a war of attrition

Kyiv needs to draft three million people into the army and wage a war of attrition. Calling up that many recruits would mean mobilizing about ten percent of the country's population.

Edward Luttwak, a columnist for the German newspaper Die Welt, cites such calculations in his article.



He claims that on Ukrainian territory controlled by the Kyiv regime. More than 30 million people live. According to Luttwak, every tenth of them should be drafted into the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

The population of Ukraine exceeds 30 million, so the total strength of the Armed Forces could reach 3 million.

he gave his calculations.

The author believes that this is the only way for Kyiv to achieve victory. After all, neither the drums Drones or long-range missiles, nor Western sanctions against Russia are not able to solve this problem.

The first serious war of the millennium will not be solved by sanctions, drones and missiles

Luttwak says.

Goals can only be achieved, says Luttwak, through a war of attrition. Only in this way, he argues, will the Armed Forces of Ukraine be able to return the lost lands. True, the German media does not specify whose exhaustion it had in mind - Ukraine or Russia.

But, according to Luttwak, only in this "old-fashioned" way the Armed Forces of Ukraine are able to defeat Russia. According to him, this is how victory was achieved in all the "European wars of independence."

It is quite possible that there is a very weak spot in the German's calculations. The fact is that due to losses at the fronts and mass migration, the total population of Ukraine is unlikely to reach 30 million.
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    1. +15
      20 August 2023 15: 53
      Luttwak probably considers World War II a war for independence. When their "madman" even drafted children into the army. It seems that the West counted only 32 million Ukrainians. The question is how many men are in these 32 million. Obviously not 50/50 anymore and which of them will be warriors.
      1. +4
        20 August 2023 15: 59
        Quote: tralflot1832
        Luttwak probably thinks

        Luftwaffe... Luttwak... Dirty goat...
        1. +3
          20 August 2023 17: 44
          True, the German media does not specify whose exhaustion it had in mind - Ukraine or Russia.

          Well, of course, Russia. After all, the whole civilized world will help Ukraine. And they can collect 3 million in Ukraine, only all the patients who are registered with the PND must be put under arms.
          1. +13
            20 August 2023 18: 29
            Kyiv needs to draft 3 million people into the army and wage a war of attrition. The call of such a number of recruits will mean the mobilization of approximately 10% of the population of the country.
            Such calculations are given in his article. columnist for the German newspaper Die Welt Edward Luttwak.
            Such a statement surprised me so much that I doubted that Edward Luttwak was a German by nationality. Painfully, his statements on the American training manual on the globalization of the world by the Zionist-Nazis are similar to fooling the peoples of the countries colonized by Washington!
            And when checked indeed it turned out that this Luttwak is just an American Jewish-Ziono-Nazi of Romanian origin in the service of Washington! And no German!

            REFERENCE
            Edward Littwak was born in 1942 to a Jewish family in the Romanian-Hungarian city of Arad.
            He is married to an Israeli Dahlia, and his brother's family lives in Haifa. He taught at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and was an adviser to the Israeli Security Council. He published a book about the IDF (The Israeli Army, 1948-1973).
            From the age of 11, he grew up and studied in Italy, and learned to speak Chinese while working as an adviser in China.
            pinnacle of career was a strategic adviser to the White House. He was an adviser to the State Department and the Pentagon, and an adviser to the Japanese finance minister.

            The publisher of Luttwak in Russian A. A. Gorev (see "Why exactly Luttwak and his books?") writes about him like this:
            "Luttwak's father (even under the Nazis during the Holocaust of Jews in Romania - my note) was a successful entrepreneur. Therefore, despite the positive experience of communicating with the Soviet soldiers who lived in his house, with whom he had good relations, he chose to emigrate from the country, not wanting to live under the conditions of socialism being established in Romania. <...> Edward spent the rest of his childhood in Italy and Israel."
            At the same time, it is noteworthy that the elder Luttwak remained a successful entrepreneur under the Romanian Nazi Holocausts (i.e. during the Holocaust of Jews in Nazi Romania), because of which, under the communist regime, very uncomfortable questions could arise for him.
            In short, family history at Luttwak about the same darklike George Soros! In other words. To whom - war, and to whom - dear mother!

            See details - Sofa military specialist Edward Luttwak - https://proza.ru/2020/06/01/1441?ysclid=lljhbj01ar492399253

            Regarding the question of the "Zionist Occupation Government" ZOG (The Zionist Occupied Government), then Edward Luttwak says:
            Personally, on an emotional level, I prefer this explanation to all others. I like the idea that the Zionists have enough power to occupy America and through America the whole world. I like feel like a member of a secret and powerful group. Go to Google and type in the name Luttwak along with the names of Pearl and Wolfowitz, and you will see that these three and several other individuals rule America and the world. And I love it.
            See details - Edward Luttwak about a little bit of everything. Published March 17, 2012 - https://la-belaga.livejournal.com/239940.html?ysclid=lljgyjlh7l483519249

            TOTAL. It always makes sense to delve into the family affairs of various kinds of politicians, because the apple often does not fall far from the tree, because genes and family upbringing affect.
            1. +2
              20 August 2023 19: 46
              Thanks for the background on the question. The Khazarian mafia (KM, i.e. Khazarian Mafia) really rules America, be it Kissinger, Soros, Wolfowitz and thousands of others. She takes revenge on Russia for the destruction of the Khazar Khaganate by Prince Svyatoslav in the 9th century, unleashing a war in Ukraine against Russia. I once listened to a meeting of the American-Israeli Council on the radio and was shocked: after every promise of help to him, the hall roared with delight!
              1. +3
                20 August 2023 22: 02
                Quote: Side view
                this Luttwak is just an American Jewish-Ziono-Nazi of Romanian origin in the service of Washington! And no German!

                The goal of the United States and England is to keep this war going as long as possible.
                So that Russians kill Russians as much as possible
                Quote: tralflot1832
                the West counted only 32 million Ukrainians. The question is how many men are in these 32 million

                They also want to destroy women
            2. +5
              20 August 2023 22: 43
              Tatyana, hi thank you very much for the information about this Littwak. I am very glad that Littwak wrote nonsense about the population of Ukraine and further events
              lol He is the author of a number of books on political science, politics, war. Probably more than 20. As I read several years ago, 6 books were translated into Russian.
              I read a book about the coup d'état. You can probably call it a training manual. I had a painful impression from it. I recalled the events of the 90s. lol wrong love
              1. +3
                20 August 2023 23: 50
                Hello Dmitry!
                Quote: Reptiloid
                in assessing the current Ukraine, he was greatly mistaken
                He was not mistaken, but he deliberately surreptitiously provocatively incites useful idiots in the West for the United States and Israel to continue the total cleansing of the territory of Ukraine from the indigenous population there for the planned relocation of American, Israeli and other Jews there for permanent residence. Namely.

                Washington's plans for Ukraine became known as early as 1916, when the epileptic Hillary Clinton (Secretary of the US State Department), losing to Trump in the race for the US presidency, in desperation, with her trump card, TALKED about the true intentions of the US State Department regarding Ukraine under the project "Ukraine - anti Russia"

                In this case, H. Clinton (to divert eyes) demagogically stated that the United States is not eternal due to the fact that the most dangerous and terrible volcano on Earth is located there - the Yellowstone supervolcano, capable of destroying the United States, and that allegedly because of this Americans need to look for other places to live in advance. And that is why Ukraine for Americans is the most fertile place in Europe, which the United States exactly needs - a place with an excellent climate, like on the Atlantic coast of the United States. And what in the US State Department exactly there - in Ukraine - and they plan to resettle Americans.

                However, at the same time according to the PLAN of Washington residents in AMERICAN Ukraine (as in the 51st state of the USA) - and this, together with the Americans (!) - should be no more than 20 million people. In this case, according to other sources, out of the 40-45 million native Ukrainians themselves, it is planned to leave 4-5 million. The rest of the Ukrainians, who themselves "will not be exterminated" in the civil war and will not want to leave Ukraine, the US State Department plans to forcibly relocate to North Africa and the Middle East.

                Thus, according to the plans of the US State Department, the “pan-headed” Ukrainians are blindly fighting either for at least temporarily satisfying devour and rape and rob someone with impunity, or simply to survive under shells.

                More than that. The US State Department plans to create in Europe the American European United States, which will include - under the auspices of the US State Department - Poland, Tribaltika, Slovakia, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria - moreover, using THE SAME Nazi METHODS of self-destruction as in Ukraine!
                And there - in the United States of America in Europe - also, according to the plans of the US State Department, it is not planned and is not foreseen at all a place for the residence of any of the other local native nationalists in these countries. Democracy in American style - and nothing more.

                And this is the PROXY WAR of the USA not only against Russia - but also the PROXY WAR of the USA against the countries of Eastern Europe and the countries of the European Union! Which also implies a reduction in the indigenous population in the countries of the European Union itself! First, the indigenous population of Ukroreich will be reduced, then the indigenous population of Poland, Tribaltia, etc. will be reduced, and then the Germans in Germany, Danes, Finns, Swedes, etc.

                In general, while we are still seeing only the tip of the iceberg in the geopolitics to reduce the population by privately owned bankers of the Zionist-Nazi persuasion of the US Federal Reserve!
                1. +1
                  21 August 2023 10: 40
                  Good time, dear Tatyana hi
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  ...... He was not mistaken, but he deliberately surreptitiously provocatively incites useful idiots in the West for the United States and Israel to continue the total cleansing of the territory of Ukraine. ......
                  In this case, H. Clinton (to divert eyes) demagogically stated that the United States is not eternal due to the fact that the most dangerous and terrible volcano on Earth is located there - the Yellowstone supervolcano, capable of destroying the United States, and that allegedly because of this Americans need to look for other places to live in advance. And that is why Ukraine for Americans is the most fertile place in Europe, ..........
                  And this is the PROXY WAR of the USA not only against Russia - but also the PROXY WAR of the USA against the countries of Eastern Europe and the countries of the European Union! .....

                  Of course, you are right, dear Tatyana! love And I was overjoyed.
                  His book "Coup d'état, a practical guide.", Littvak first published in 1968 and it was noticed in different countries. For the Russian edition ---- translation by Nikolai Platoshkin. Of course, now during the Internet and globalization, political scientists and politicians have also got new tools and opportunities, but there is no doubt that those who wanted to destroy the USSR ---- read it and studied.
      2. +4
        20 August 2023 16: 12
        Quote: tralflot1832
        Luttwak probably considers the war for independence the second world.

        Germany cannot refuse ideas, eccentric Adik, it has been in their blood since 1923.
        1. +14
          20 August 2023 16: 50
          the most interesting thing is that "Adik" only competently saddled already flourishing ideas of German society about their racial superiority! Well, to hang all the sins on someone who will not say anything in his own defense - this is a post-war trend (and in the memoirs of all Mansteins it’s the same: if it weren’t for Hitler, we would have defeated the Russians!)
          No Hitler would have forced tens of millions of the inhabitants of the Reich to zigging in unison if it had not been in tune with their hearts ...
          1. +2
            20 August 2023 19: 30
            In the same way, we must remember that no one would force all Ukrainians to become a force hostile to Russia if it were not in tune with their hearts. Everyone is to blame. And everyone has to be processed too. Fortunately, the training manual (and quite universal) for processing entire peoples has already been written by the Americans instead of us: it remains only to write everything off from there.
      3. +2
        20 August 2023 16: 42
        Of these three million, two in this case will be Germans? Otherwise, there was a rotten provocateur, a shortage!!!
      4. +1
        20 August 2023 16: 46
        How many 32 million? There are not so many people in Ukraine now. Even the Ukrainians themselves admit this, and only a certain visionary Luttwak is full of over-optimism.

        The population of Ukraine decreased after the start of the special operation from 37,6 million to 29 million people, as of May 2023, the Ukrainian Institute of the Future calculated. The infographic with the data was published in the telegram channel of the organization.


        Of those 29 million people who now live in the country, the institute notes, only 9,1-9,5 million Ukrainians work. “If you take away state employees, there are about 6-7 million people left. They are the team that carries others - 22-23 million people, including pensioners, children, students, the unemployed, dependents, the same public sector workers, ”the publication says.

        https://www.rbc.ru/politics/05/06/2023/647db6f79a79474072aae73d

        After the start of Russia's special operation in Ukraine, more than 20 million people left the country, of which 8,6 million Ukrainians never returned to their homeland.According to the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Refugees as of May 23, there are more than 8,2 million refugees from Ukraine in European countries. Of these, only slightly more than 5,1 million people have official status in European countries.

        The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine in November 2022 published the draft state budget for 2023. It, among other things, raised the issue of population reduction after February 24, 2022. The Rada provides the following statistical reference with figures: by September, the population had decreased to 27,8 million people, before the start of the war, 34,5 million people lived in the state

        https://dzen.ru/a/Y-YunQzupRFBwYkI

        If we believe the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine that before the start of the war, 34,5 million people lived in the state and believe the data of the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Refugees as of May 23, there are more than 8,2 million refugees from Ukraine in European countries, then we get 34,5 million - 8,2 million = 26,3 million
        1. +2
          20 August 2023 17: 24
          It is quite possible that there is a very weak spot in the German's calculations. The fact is that due to losses at the fronts and mass migration, the total population of Ukraine is unlikely to reach 30 million.

          It should also be taken into account that they, like us, have more women than men, moreover, more able-bodied people have left. Pensioners tend to hold on to their shacks to the last, even when the front line is already passing through them. Millions of Ukrainians worked abroad even before the start of the SVO, I think few returned, especially men. I know three, they came from the Czech Republic not home, but to our Genichesk. Soon three more will come not to Kherson, but to our Skadovsk. Of these, three men liable for military service and one boy aged 15
        2. +4
          20 August 2023 17: 46
          Now they have about a million "defenders of Nenko" in the Armed Forces of Ukraine .. I think that they are quite capable of calling two more lyamas. next year is quite real. Armaments will be thrown at them. It is full of it in the Arizona dessert. And our planners should proceed from this
        3. +3
          20 August 2023 19: 24
          Quote from Orange Bigg
          we get 34,5 million - 8,2 million = 26,3 million

          You did not take into account the population of the territories liberated from the Nazis and annexed to Russia. And this is about 4 million more. It is also not taken into account that the Sumerians fled not only to Europe, where they are taken into account and statistics are kept.
          So the current used population is about 22 million, if not less. And it is from this number that about a million people have already been called up for the entire time of the NWO (including territorial defense). So the mobilization potential of the population remaining in the country is not at all as high as citizen Litvak dreams of. But in order for Litvak, in order to clean up the territory of Khazaria for Israel.
          Everything is going according to plan, and the towers will not let you lie.
      5. +6
        20 August 2023 17: 06
        The West has long planned a 10 million population for Ukraine, which the current authorities are implementing
        1. 0
          20 August 2023 18: 36
          Is it like? 3,5 million in Kyiv and 3 million each in the West and in the East of Ukraine? what
        2. +1
          20 August 2023 18: 49
          Quote: knn54
          The West has long planned for Ukraine 10 million people


          Western politicians-analysts believed that 4 million was enough. And for Russia, 15 million was enough. Why do you think these figures are so? Because the Anglo-Saxon Nazis in the conquered territories leave 10% of the population, the rest are destroyed. Remember the conquest of the American continent by white Protestant colonizers.
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      6. 0
        20 August 2023 21: 02
        Quote: tralflot1832
        The question is how many of these 32 million men.

        For the last 40 years in Ukraine, about 200 boys were born a year who grew up fit for service. To call on 000 million soldiers is to cleanly scrape men from 3 to 18 years old. And for what? just for the sake of banning the Russian language in Ukraine? Hitler and Himmler were more humane than the Zelenskys and Kolomoiskys and did not set themselves such idiotic tasks.
    2. +10
      20 August 2023 15: 56
      Not so long ago I read that in fact no more than 25 million people live in Ukraine. The rest are where. And if you listen to this analyst, then you need to take everyone to the front. Despite the fact that all this horde must somehow be dressed, put on shoes and fed, not a word. has long been dead and the sub-state functions only at the expense of foreign injections, the author is silent about this. And if the financial flow is blocked, then the country is actually bankrupt. The main thing is to write something with a loud title.
      1. +2
        20 August 2023 16: 46
        In 2021, there were 12 million state employees in Ukraine, count pensioners. For decades, young people left for the west and east, of these remaining 3 million, call for it, count almost all the men, who somehow did not rush to the front for a year and a half
      2. +1
        20 August 2023 17: 12
        "Foreign injections" let's be frank: financial injections and serious ones help a lot, but as it shows: "it's easy to get on a financial needle, but this needle has two big minuses: sooner or later, but debts must be repaid with interest. Very, unpleasant , and also: you get used to good things quickly and start not counting money:, Po, Arsenal: 9 lyams, Gritsko sucks well, but you need to support LGBT. Lenders don’t give money for beautiful eyes. Already received loans must be worked off
    3. +2
      20 August 2023 15: 56
      I hope the Russian Federation can destroy the watered force of the Ukrainian leaders and decapitate the army of the APU, destroy the top staff of the APU !!
      1. +3
        20 August 2023 16: 27
        My friend, the Americans need us to kill each other! Therefore, it is necessary to deal with the Yankees, then the rest will stop grunting !!!
        1. +1
          20 August 2023 22: 03
          my friend, first of all, they destroy the command
    4. +13
      20 August 2023 15: 56
      This is genius! total mobilization. Volkssturm. The Fuhrer's precepts are true!
      1. +6
        20 August 2023 16: 10
        Quote: Volunteer Marek
        This is genius! total mobilization. Volkssturm. The Fuhrer's precepts are true!

        Quote: Volunteer Marek
        This is genius! total mobilization. Volkssturm. The Fuhrer's precepts are true!

        Only now the Germans themselves do not want to fight with Russia, but with Ukrainian cannon fodder, but easily - "we will throw weapons at you, but if only not the Germans, but the Selyuks" fought.
        Now the whole of Europe is looking for fools and he found them.
    5. +7
      20 August 2023 15: 56
      I think that later, from the pages of the German media, advice will follow to start a total mobilization. With reflections on the topic - well, Adolf did not grow together, what if Zelya succeeds? ..
    6. +4
      20 August 2023 15: 57
      German media: Kyiv needs to draft three million people into the army and wage a war of attrition

      Three million people from Germany? For Russia to finally realize that there is a war with NATO and Russia's survival in this massacre is the main goal for which all means must be used.
      1. +1
        20 August 2023 16: 23
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Three million people from Germany?

        Only not the Germans, but those refugees" from Ukraine, but not the Germans.
    7. +1
      20 August 2023 16: 00
      He means, of course, the depletion of Russia. Ukraine is supported by the West, and the West through financial mechanisms, partly by Russia. So, through the Russian contribution to Ukraine, Russia is at war with itself.
      1. +3
        20 August 2023 16: 03
        And why does the Russian Federation buy so much, what does the West support? Can you be more specific?
        1. +1
          20 August 2023 16: 11
          The West is supported by the whole world, by accepting their currencies, and using them in settlements among themselves.
          1. +1
            20 August 2023 16: 58
            We are talking about Russia. Why did you start about the whole world. More specifically pzhalusta, I'm writing.
            1. -4
              20 August 2023 18: 10
              Russia is a part of the world that is a donor. What else is there to chew on? Tell how many cash dollars in the country? or about Kremlin wallets, whose contents are no longer available to us? Or about the sales revenue that ends up there?
              1. 0
                20 August 2023 19: 21
                Again common words. I especially liked about the Kremlin wallets and the proceeds that settle THERE.
        2. 0
          20 August 2023 19: 35
          Skobaristan (Vladimir)
          And why does the Russian Federation buy so much, what does the West support?
          More specifically?

          as they explain, the foreign trade balance is plus or minus the norms, but what they earn is withdrawn back abroad, that is, the withdrawers transfer money from one pocket to another and back, losing customs duties on this operation (remaining in the budget), but leaving neither the earned money in the country, nor product.
          there’s no way to drink, walk, spend, spend, build, invest within the limits of the Minusinsk basin or the Central Russian Upland, and they are not good people, all the good is over the hillock and there they literally bury it in the hot sand of blue lagoons, cutting off zeros in the computer - if only there was no increase in the welfare of other humanoids
          1. 0
            20 August 2023 23: 34
            Here is a question. And how is this most displayed THERE? By what means? Well, that is, cash in wagons or through electronic payments?
    8. +2
      20 August 2023 16: 03
      It is logical, and most importantly, when all three lyamas fall down, then the war will end faster, why pull
      1. -5
        20 August 2023 16: 10
        immediately a nuclear strike so as not to pull and that's all! otherwise, at such a pace, 3 lyamas will drink a lot of blood!
        1. +3
          20 August 2023 17: 29
          Well, if it’s nuclear, then only in Lvov. I understand that it’s not worth it, but I really want to wipe this Bandera lair into dust!
    9. +4
      20 August 2023 16: 06
      The Germans are still advisers in this matter, maybe they will also tell you how to train, dress, and arm them, and where to get so many officers to manage them, the ukroreich will not be able to do this on his own, then the question is at whose expense, well, plus if there are not enough ukrov maybe the Germans will agree again
    10. +3
      20 August 2023 16: 07
      Kyiv needs to draft three million people into the army and wage a war of attrition.
      There is an irresistible desire to achieve by any means that the Slavs destroy each other as long as possible and more. Nazi genes interfere with peaceful life? And what does Germany need to stop helping Kyiv, and experts like Luttwak finally shut up?
      1. +3
        20 August 2023 17: 19
        To call on 3 people, another quarter of the job, they need to be dressed, shod, armed, taught basic skills, and this is all time and money ..
        1. +2
          20 August 2023 18: 04
          and try to place these 3 million somewhere else
    11. +9
      20 August 2023 16: 14
      Kyiv needs to draft three million people into the army and wage a war of attrition. Calling up that many recruits would mean mobilizing about ten percent of the country's population.

      More precisely, about 15% of the current population is square. That is, a state with a ruined economy, living on subsidies, is invited to assemble the largest army, as a percentage of the population, in history since the Middle Ages. Well, good luck to you, Ichthyandry * uevy ....
      1. +1
        20 August 2023 16: 26
        in the Second World War, a total of approximately 17 percent was called up, but of course, taking into account the spread for 4 years
        1. +2
          20 August 2023 18: 18
          The Second World War was called up in total about 17 percent, but of course, taking into account the spread for 4 years

          at the peak of the Red Army in the Second World War was about 6% (I'm afraid to lie, but something close) of the population of the USSR.
          1. 0
            20 August 2023 18: 29
            Quote: Hwostatij
            at the peak of the Red Army in the Second World War was about 6%
            total volume 34 million
            1. +3
              20 August 2023 20: 24
              total volume 34 million

              Is this the volume of a spherical horse in the liberal space of thinking?
              1. +1
                21 August 2023 10: 18
                This means that in 1941-45, 34 million people were mobilized in the USSR out of a population of approximately 200 million. The number of armed forces at its peak was at the same time something about 12 million people.
      2. +3
        20 August 2023 19: 44
        hwostatij
        That is, a state with a ruined economy, living on subsidies, proposed to raise the largest percentage of the population of the army in history, since the Middle Ages. Well, good luck to you, Ichthyandry * uevy ....


        no one is going to give and pay anything,
        and no one is going to demand anything back.
        it will be and is NOT DEBTS, it is a PAYMENT.
        1. +2
          20 August 2023 20: 27
          no one is going to give and pay anything,
          and no one is going to demand anything back.
          it will be and is NOT DEBTS, it is a PAYMENT.

          How many wonderful, but failed in implementation, projects would not have been started at all, if the designers had at least a rough idea of ​​​​the design object ...
    12. +1
      20 August 2023 16: 18
      What is the mobilization resource of Ukraine, the question is ambiguous, some of their bloggers claim that there are from 7 to 9 people in reserve.
      There was infa on the site that the Rada intended to lower the draft age to 17,5 years, which is from 1 to 600 million.

      According to their bloggers /: poorly trained boys, but their ideological motivation is over the edge. And if so: they won the war, but V. In the night he slept and did not know
      1. +1
        20 August 2023 17: 45
        The question with 17 year old boys is simple and complex: they are like a blank sheet of paper, write whatever you like. Give them elementary training, weapons, and they don't rustle
        In July 1944 in Normandy, the defense was held by: the SS Panzer Division of the Hitler Youth and the personnel divisions of the Wehrmacht.
        For heavy losses, were from the Hitler Youth division. The boys still do not appreciate life, fanaticism pours out of their ears.
        They will move forward and not think
        In general, a werewolf, quite a lot of troubles caused
        In Koenigsberg alone, until the middle of 1947 they butted
    13. +2
      20 August 2023 16: 19
      And what is so weak, German! Your Adolf mobilized the Germans in a larger percentage, mobilized millions from Europe that lay under him, and still ended up in disgrace, all beaten. That's a short memory. But what Hitler only dreamed of in his dreams was that Russians and Ukrainians would kill each other, as a result of the betrayal of Ukrainians by Russia, the Russians and the Russian World, It means that the Germans have now applied everything to make these dreams of Hitler come true. pushes further. And this only means that even now they will all end up even worse than Hitler and all those who served him.
    14. +1
      20 August 2023 16: 24
      and on the exhaustion of whom do the Hans propose to wage war ?!
      1. +1
        20 August 2023 16: 31
        Vasilenko Vladimir, It is known that Germany is depleted. They will lose weight badly, turn off the gas, they forgot the gas has already been turned off. Only one option is to throw more Ukrainian refugees. These will not lose weight, the Germans will lose weight. They will be slender as poplars.
    15. +1
      20 August 2023 16: 29
      And how many Germans will he call to call?
    16. +2
      20 August 2023 16: 31
      Accountants divorced, if only people would kill each other more. I didn't mean myself.
    17. +2
      20 August 2023 16: 36
      Incidentally, a series of strikes against Ukrainian military registration and enlistment offices (or, as they are now called, recruitment and social support centers), whose addresses are known exactly, would greatly slow down the pace of this very mobilization. At the very least, "address" agendas would slow down well.
      1. KCA
        0
        20 August 2023 16: 56
        So they are already caught there, kz, not according to the passport, but in the face, it looks like they are over 18, in a cage and on LBS
    18. +2
      20 August 2023 16: 44
      Every tenth, well, these are women and babies and the elderly and the disabled, and then from Europe you will have to do the extraction of pigs. In general, another couch fart scribbled something in the newspaper for a salary.
    19. +1
      20 August 2023 16: 47
      And it never occurred to this Nazi propagandist that even with his calculations, very much in favor of Ukraine, Russia's mobilization resource is almost 5 times greater.
    20. +2
      20 August 2023 16: 53
      Goals can be achieved, says Luttwak,
      . A simple question ... what is the purpose of such ko / C / s?
      For the zelebobikov, everything is clear, there is no talk about skakuas, there is nothing to think about, they galloped ... for the military-industrial complex figures there, there is no doubt, grandmothers are doing ...
      But for such, like, advisers, guardians, what do they need ???
    21. +2
      20 August 2023 16: 58
      Maybe these media will tell you where to get them?))) Departure to work, including to Russia, began long before 2014, not to mention 2022. There were no 30 million as of February 2022, and what was there was by no means mobilization age.
    22. -3
      20 August 2023 17: 00
      There was already on this topic, but I will repeat. The USSR mobilized about 10% of the population in the Great Patriotic War. I don't think we need to be reminded of who worked behind the lines. And this rear feat cannot be repeated by anyone now.
      1. +1
        20 August 2023 17: 15
        Ukraine does not need to work in the rear, they will be given everything, money, fuel and equipment.

        By the way, women serve in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and not like our signalmen and in headquarters, but even attack aircraft.
        1. +1
          20 August 2023 17: 47
          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          Ukraine does not need to work in the rear, they will all be given money, fuel and equipment

          Ukraine is not the USSR, there is practically nowhere to retreat, and there are not many hopes for Western weapons. If our troops block the western border and the entire Black Sea coast, then Ukraine will end very quickly. no matter how much they mobilize there.
        2. 0
          20 August 2023 18: 39
          By the way, women serve in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and not like our signalmen and in headquarters, but even attack aircraft.
          Exactly, and even pregnant women serve as attack aircraft. bgg
        3. 0
          20 August 2023 21: 48
          Did you see it yourself or who told you?))) It’s hard for healthy men, but here are the women)))
    23. +3
      20 August 2023 17: 04
      They can scrape together two million, but this will be the finish line: there will be no one to work, no one will give birth. The nation will end...
      1. 0
        20 August 2023 21: 50
        They can't, there's nowhere to scrape them together. It was the mob potential that was at work in Europe and Russia, practically no one returned and will not return until the war is over. However, then, too, very unlikely.
    24. -2
      20 August 2023 17: 06
      With such calculations, 15 million people will be mobilized in Russia. So, what is next ?
    25. 0
      20 August 2023 17: 08
      Quote: rocket757
      Goals can be achieved, says Luttwak,
      . A simple question ... what is the purpose of such ko / C / s?
      For the zelebobikov, everything is clear, there is no talk about skakuas, there is nothing to think about, they galloped ... for the military-industrial complex figures there, there is no doubt, grandmothers are doing ...
      But for such, like, advisers, guardians, what do they need ???

      And they also make money: they earn extra money instead of the Delphic oracle
    26. 0
      20 August 2023 17: 09
      Men in Ukraine were banned from leaving as soon as the NWO began, so they are quite capable of fielding 3 million soldiers.

      I advise everyone reading these lines to start ordering equipment, uniforms, shoes and elements of tactical medicine (pouches for a first aid kit, turnstiles, hemostatics, bandages and other things).

      Whoever has the opportunity to go to shooting courses or to a shooting gallery, they won’t teach you anything in the army, there will be no one to teach you, everyone who knows how to do this is already at the front.

      Yes, be sure to take the armor, there is Avito Ratnik in size 2 with class 5 plates for him, a shoulder pad and shoulder pads and an underarm with ballistic protection.

      While all this can be ordered on Avito, Ozone or Wildberry, tomorrow you may not get anything.
      1. +2
        20 August 2023 17: 25
        Don't invent. They don't have that resource. They would have been put up a long time ago and all territories would have been liberated.
        1. -2
          20 August 2023 17: 37
          Don't invent. They don't have that resource. They would have been put up a long time ago and all territories would have been liberated.


          They already have a superiority in numbers at the front at times and in the range of artillery, and until this summer they coped with everything so well.

          But now the need has arisen and they will increase the size of the armed forces.

          Moreover, they were cheered up, 42 pieces of F-16 were handed over for a start.
      2. -1
        23 August 2023 12: 16
        here you are and order if there are no brains
    27. -3
      20 August 2023 17: 16
      The population of Ukraine exceeds 30 million, so the total strength of the Armed Forces could reach 3 million.

      cannot even in the old days with a relatively young population 5% mobilization would be a success
    28. +1
      20 August 2023 17: 22
      German media: Kyiv needs to draft three million people into the army and wage a war of attrition
      fool fool It turns out to be exterminated, to the last Ukrainian. request
    29. -2
      20 August 2023 17: 34
      Lutvak pushed an interesting idea! laughing But who will support and equip this army? bully
      As soon as Ukraine calls 3 million people, the issue of depleting Ukraine will be immediately resolved lol Such a scale, it's already total war am , does the West have enough shells for such a war? No.
      [quote] [The first serious war of the millennium will not be resolved either by sanctions or by drones and missiles
      quote] this phrase annoys me, it turns out Ukraine is just the beginning! And the timing of the confrontation is epic simple! belay
    30. 0
      20 August 2023 17: 36
      Probably outplayed strategy games ....
    31. 0
      20 August 2023 17: 36
      German media: Kyiv needs to draft three million people into the army and wage a war of attrition

      I mean, until the last urka inca? belay
      And not sorry? laughing
      In industry, before without the help of the collective farm of the west, they had been running for a long time with pitchforks and rakes. laughing
    32. +1
      20 August 2023 18: 10
      I read the comments, everything seems to be correct. I just don’t understand, why don’t you consider women? This is a huge reserve. Here Zelensky seems to consider them recently there was an exhibition in Kyiv, so they showed the form there, including body armor made taking into account anatomical features and even a form taking into account pregnancy.
    33. +2
      20 August 2023 18: 14
      Who will arm this crowd, equip it, train it? Such a one-time call, even for the Russian Federation, will not be an easy task, let alone 404. The West is already groaning - do not exaggerate their capabilities.
    34. -1
      20 August 2023 18: 15
      "war of attrition" Russia was little affected by the war of attrition, neighbor, whose fence, 2 days ago, he waved to the Emirates when there were COVID restrictions, he made himself 3 months ours, and in Turkey Modern
      True, Moderna, its sausage strength is thorough.
      6 days a week, 10-11 hours a day, a man works hard for the M-4 extension, and there are no bad people to work for thanks
      1. 0
        20 August 2023 19: 54
        According to the "modern" pope, there was infa on the site: how to make our core, and in Germany or Bulgaria their vaccination.
    35. 0
      20 August 2023 19: 21
      You die in the trenches, and we will compare the forecast with the result.
      Such a recommendation from an enlightened, economically independent of the economy and politics of the United States and China, Europe?
      All is well in Berlin. Neither real refugees from the countries of Asia and Africa, where there are civil unrest, nor rabies who dumped from their country, failed in Europe, and demand, demand, demand ...
    36. 0
      20 August 2023 19: 27
      German media: Kyiv needs to draft three million people into the army and wage a war of attrition

      And call for the help of the Wenck army!
    37. 0
      20 August 2023 19: 56
      The commentators unanimously forgot something, as not so long ago our Minister of Defense stated that the mobile resource of the Russian Federation is about 25 million people. The population of the Russian Federation is about 150 million. to put under arms in Russia 15 million is real, and 3 million in Ukraine is a fantasy. I would proceed from the fact that ykry will still put 3 million under arms. As they say, it is better to be safe than sorry. The West will tense up, but will supply for this army both weapons and uniforms and grub. The West is no longer the same as it was 50 years ago, when every European country had a Communist Party. No one there will even utter a word against it.
      1. -1
        20 August 2023 20: 00
        Interesting. 10% of the population in the army means that the country is definitely waging a total war. Every citizen is part of the war machine. So. Is it worth it to start purposefully burning the peacekeepers with such inputs? what

        PS In no case do I call for anything.
      2. 0
        22 August 2023 00: 03
        Quote: Bully
        The population of the Russian Federation is about 150 million.
        Why not 200 million? Do you know that we have a demographic catastrophe in our country, and that for several years now the decline has exceeded the birth rate, even taking into account the importation of emigrants? Look at the official statistics/reports: how many migrants from the Asian part of the CIS were brought in during these six months alone, and how many passports were issued to adults!
    38. 0
      20 August 2023 22: 11
      Country 404 is shot through. An army of 3 million is three to four times more .... the same communications, the same warehouses ..... more barracks are needed.
    39. -1
      20 August 2023 22: 49
      They may well collect 3 million heads of meat and throw them at Russia. Our answer should not be in general mobilization, but in the massive use of tactical nuclear weapons and organophosphorus on the battlefield. A gift of 2 kt arrived - there is no more ROP, an ammunition depot or a bridge across the Dnieper, a gift of 250 kt arrived - there is no regional center like Ternopil, a poplar head flew in - there is no city of a million people. So we will save the lives of our guys and in a matter of days we will defeat the enemy. We cannot afford to exchange people for any riff-raff.
      If the Poles, Romanians and Germans are thrown into the war, then it is necessary to move on to the doctrine of Marshal Ogarkov, which provided for the massive use of nuclear weapons. Zhirinovsky once predicted that as a result of the war with us, eastern and southern Europe would turn into mountains of radioactive rubble. Do you feel sorry for these people? I don't
      1. 0
        21 August 2023 10: 18
        I don’t quite understand why you are being downvoted ... in fact, because you are calling for not sparing people whose main goal is to destroy our country without sparing us.
        And those who are already actively operating and throwing all their strength into the realization of this goal.
        1. 0
          21 August 2023 13: 26
          Because they are far away, no cast iron with NATO markings fell on their heads, and here, in the Donbass, I can personally observe the consequences of inexplicable humanism towards the enemy. In an all-out war for our existence, we must spare no one. The enemy should be destroyed not only on the battlefield, but also in his deep rear, as the amers did during the massive bombardments of Germany and Japan. As for nuclear weapons and other types of WMD, their use is quite acceptable in order to save the lives of our fighters and civilians. If we have to realize the predictions of the late Zhirinovsky, then our opponents have chosen their own fate
    40. Two
      0
      20 August 2023 23: 54
      They generally imagine how much the same food is needed per day, for three million people and, accordingly, ammunition. In the USSR, I may be mistaken, experts will correct during the Second World War, the army was six and a half million people. And the food was on cards, so it was the USSR.
    41. 0
      21 August 2023 00: 52
      And this not very smart person did not know that about 8-12 people working in the rear provide one person on the front line. In Ukraine, there are 24 million jobs working for the army???
      1. 0
        21 August 2023 10: 11
        Quote: goose
        In Ukraine, there are 24 million jobs working for the army???

        Hardly ... unless you recognize beauty bloggers, janitors, cashiers in supermarkets, bartenders with waiters and trolleybus controllers as "working for the needs of the army" laughing
    42. +1
      21 August 2023 01: 00
      Quote from Red Hunter
      They may well collect 3 million heads of meat and throw them at Russia.

      Since the time of Napoleon, it has been found out that the number is no longer the main factor. Artillery and machine guns in the 1st World War could already kill any number of attackers. 85% of the losses of the 2nd World War were made by mortars. What is the point of calling on 3 million people who have not been properly trained, officers have not been trained, management structures have not been created and supplies have not been provided, they have not been armed according to modern standards, for the rear of which at least 24 million people are still needed?
      That is why the USSR was not afraid of the Chinese for a long time during Khrushchev's time. China, with all its population, could hardly put an army of more than 10 million people in the field.
    43. +3
      21 August 2023 10: 08
      Where did he find "more than 30 million people" in Ukraine? 32-34 lyamas lived there BEFORE the start of the NWO on February 24.02.2022, XNUMX.
      More than 8 million hid abroad, the pollama has already been disposed of and crippled, the pollama of officials, deputies and oligarchs with their families (and possibly more), who will never go to war anywhere ... we get 23 million people at most.
      Yes, of course, you can also get 3 million of them ... but:
      a) these will not be professional trained troops, but ordinary bayonet grease, wooden soldiers of Oorfene Deuce.
      b) in this case, Ukraine will remain GENERALLY without men.
      1. 0
        22 August 2023 00: 42
        Quote: Peter_Koldunov
        a) these will not be professional trained troops, but ordinary bayonet grease,
        b) in this case, Ukraine will remain GENERALLY without men.
        And, in your opinion, why did the EU and NATO organize this war? They do not need extra resistance in the seizure of Ukrainian territories. And they do not need competitors-consumers in the market. The policy and plan of the brown billion - have you heard of this?
    44. -1
      21 August 2023 11: 29
      for them, this is understandable, to exhaustion, since they cannot carry out large-scale offensive operations. but why can't we? or don't want to? I'm not a military man, that's why I'm asking.
      there is such an opinion, they say, now it’s not World War II, large offensive operations, bypasses and coverage of large forces, are impossible in principle, supposedly, “because the trained reserves will be immediately seen from the satellite.” but in my opinion, this is just an excuse, behind which there is nothing.
      let's suppose that we are now having a large formation, something like a modern analogue of the Soviet mechanized corps, with the support of aviation. let's say he suddenly launched an offensive, where there was no defense prepared in advance, say, from Belgorod, north of Kharkov. and how will ukry stop him? yes, they will see him, both from satellites and with their eyes. Well, what do they have to stop him, and let's say, what forces are needed when there is no prepared defense, and you won’t have time to prepare it? to stop the advance of such a mobile unit in the field? how many forces are needed and what kind? and is it possible, with all the desire, to scrape together them now in Ukraine, without completely exposing all existing fronts? and will they even manage to do this before this corps reaches the Dnieper, advancing from Belgorod.
      1. -1
        21 August 2023 11: 50

        So, suppose, to carry out such an operation, what kind of forces would be needed? laughing
        1. -1
          21 August 2023 12: 00
          And if this happened, then the 2nd stage should already be like this?
    45. Sly
      -1
      21 August 2023 11: 54
      Quote: Tatiana
      Such a statement surprised me so much that I doubted that Edward Luttwak was a German by nationality.

      Tatiana! Thank you for such a detailed investigation of this dark personality! Everything becomes much clearer! (no sarcasm if anything)

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