German edition: The Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine changes the location of the modernized Su-24 bombers every 24 hours

The air forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are armed with several Su-24 front-line bombers, modernized into carriers of Western-made cruise missiles. Bild writes about it.

According to the German newspaper, Kyiv managed to upgrade about ten Su-24 front-line bombers, making them carriers of the Storm Shadow and Scalp cruise missiles, transferred by Britain and France, respectively. Since the number of aircraft is small, the command of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is forced to transfer them from airfield to airfield every 24 hours, thereby misleading Russian intelligence, which is specifically hunting for the Su-24.

In addition, the Ukrainian Air Force has converted several highways into runways, thereby increasing the number of places where bombers can be deployed. Even if one is covered, the others will remain intact and continue to strike at the "Russian occupiers."

Kyiv covers the Su-24 bases with modern Western anti-aircraft systems, including German IRIS-T and American Patriot, the publication claims. It is hard to believe in this, Ukraine simply does not have such a number of the same Patriot air defense systems, and the available ones cover Kyiv.

Earlier, the Commander of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Lieutenant-General Mykola Oleshchuk, said that Ukrainian specialists, with the help of their Western partners, were able to convert the aircraft left from the Soviet army to Western weapons, including Su-24 front-line bombers. However, he refused to name the number of aircraft upgraded to carry cruise missiles.

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[BMP-2]

The legend is fresh, but hard to believe: it is possible to fix not only the place of deployment, but also the very fact of movement.

[Orange Bigg]

The suspension on the pylon, of course, was zababahali.

[isv000]

Ze puts his signature on the evidence for the verdict!

[svp67]

Quote: BMP-2

it is possible to fix not only the place of deployment, but also the very fact of movement.

It is possible, but having a full-fledged space constellation that provides round-the-clock sounding of the airspace over Ukraine. And now we have it created?

Kyiv covers the Su-24 bases with modern Western anti-aircraft systems, including German IRIS-T and American Patriot, the publication claims. It is hard to believe in this, Ukraine simply does not have such a number of the same Patriot air defense systems, and the available ones cover Kyiv.

And I would carefully consider this statement. Not only is the Vasilkov airbase next to Kiev, but there are plenty of general-purpose airfields, the same Zhuliany, Boryspil ...

[fruc]

Perhaps there are underground and camouflaged hangars, and they roll out from there. Or maybe they are hiding in parking lots in forest belts, near highways, from which they take off. Sooner or later, anyway, they will lose them. You need to search and use AWACS aircraft for reconnaissance. I think that they can just as well take off from the air. Poland or Slovakia.

[isv000]

Quote: frruc

Perhaps there are underground and camouflaged hangars, from there they roll out

All these "possibly" are the remnants of the Soviet legacy and their coordinates should be known to us to the centimeter!

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

For 30 years of independent Sharovarshchina, even the release of stormtroopers could not be established, the squalor of the farmers. (Dills are not allowed to have their own state. Not given. Not their level. Gypsies are like a nation. But there is no state. With all due respect to these people.

[Sergei N 58912062]

I think that they can just as well take off from the air. Poland or Slovakia.

It is quite possible that they take off from the airfields of these countries.

[culinary]

Quote: svp67

Quote: BMP-2

it is possible to fix not only the place of deployment, but also the very fact of movement.

It is possible, but having a full-fledged space constellation that provides round-the-clock sounding of the airspace over Ukraine. And now we have it created?

Kyiv covers the Su-24 bases with modern Western anti-aircraft systems, including German IRIS-T and American Patriot, the publication claims. It is hard to believe in this, Ukraine simply does not have such a number of the same Patriot air defense systems, and the available ones cover Kyiv.

And I would carefully consider this statement. Not only is the Vasilkov airbase next to Kiev, but there are plenty of general-purpose airfields, the same Zhuliany, Boryspil ...

Moreover, Boryspil, as it turned out, is active.
I can not vouch for the complete reliability, about the same they fly there.
If people who have access to air traffic refute me, then I will gobble up any minuses.

[ABC-schutze]

I agree that we need to be "attentive", but I'm not so categorical about the unconditional need for a "space group" ...

The latter, of course, will greatly facilitate the task of "locating the place" and "determining the time", but in this case, to fix the fact (s) (place and time) of the take-off and landing of the aircraft (including on the "highway". ..) at a distance, due to the nature of the theater conducted by the NWO, the existing technical capabilities of RTR \ RR are sufficient ...

[knn54]

This situation does not differ from the GENERALLY ACCEPTED - "in response to"
A fresh example is that they hit the Starokonstantinovsky airfield, from which Su-24s took off, bombing the Chongarsky bridge.

[Nexcom]

Let them transfer them from airfield to airfield. More often. The residual resource of engines and other things is not at all infinite ....

[Popandos]

Can you imagine these air defense workers who run around the country after planes every 24 hours

Kyiv covers Su-24 bases with modern Western anti-aircraft systems, including German IRIS-T and American Patriot

[huggi]

Great you came up with, let the Ukrainians hammer on ours until the resource is used up. This is our tactic. And if they fix it, then again, since we are endless.

[Evgeny Popov_3]

Im needing a blowjob for a long residual resource

[Escariot]

Most likely, movement between airfields occurs immediately after the strikes. Those. took off from one airfield, struck, landed at another.

[ABC-schutze]

In order to "take off from the highway", especially for such a powerful front-line bomber as the Su-24 (when the engines "work" even on the "chippers", you feel the "heat" of their gases from 400 meters away ...), it is necessary, preliminary, 100% required for flight preparation and take-off, to "clear" a section of the highway from the appearance of any "outsiders", at least to prevent a collision with them by an aircraft carrying "such a missile" under the plane. Moreover, "clean up" not only vehicles, but also "pedestrians" too). And this, too, is quite a "unmasking sign" ...

[Leshak]

So it is necessary that our fighters with long-range air-to-air missiles hang in the sky constantly, without interruption. Block out the sky as much as possible. If intelligence cannot track it down, we cannot stop the supply of missiles either, then we will have to hunt. Otherwise, don't knock them out.

[kwwk]

I am embarrassed to ask what kind of air-to-air missiles with such a range of about 500 km are these, these airfields are unlikely to be closer.
Here you can only try to catch the SU-24 at the moment the missiles are launched, but something tells me that with the help of NATO intelligence, the ukrov command knows the presence of interceptors in the air.

[Leshak]

I didn't talk about airfields. It is about hunting for air targets (it says there - air-to-air missiles). These English, Hrantsuz and soon Fritz rockets are launched, at our facilities, not from the Polish border. And at a launch range, planes can be reached.
PS knowing about the presence of our fighters in the air, cocaine is unlikely to lift carriers into the air. This is also a plus from constant patrols by our fighters. Let the youth make a flight of hours without entering the air defense strike zone.

[Berezin]

And what about our S-400s, which seem to be able to conduct several targets at once at a distance of up to 400 km?

[alexoff]

R-37M gives out under 400 km, if there was undercover intelligence and sane interaction with aviation, then it is quite possible to catch. For example, planes flew to the airfield, and then the runway is broken by Iskanders so that they don’t fly away from there. Well, then you can score with geraniums, for such a goal it’s not a pity to send fifty

[Joker62]

And about space intelligence, are you taken into account ??? No? Then you have the flag in your hands!

[former soldier]

I’m embarrassed to ask, what kind of air-to-air missiles are these with such a range of about 500 km,

For interceptors from Belarus and Crimea, there is no 500 km to central Ukraine.

[Alekseev]

It is necessary DLRO, however. We do not have many A-50 and A-100 aircraft, but we need to turn around.
Israel deployed early warning radar on balloons. It is necessary to strain space intelligence. It is possible to place a radar station on the Crimean mountains in order to monitor both the sea and the air over the dill plains.
We need an integrated approach, you never know what else from the missile weapons the Americans and their vassals will slip to the Banderlogs.

[Leshak]

I completely agree. Missile strikes on often empty airfields will not fix the issue.

[Rumata]

Quote: Alekseev

It is necessary DLRO, however. We do not have many A-50 and A-100 aircraft, but we need to turn around.
Israel deployed early warning radar on balloons.

Israel just used the Soviet experience.
https://topwar.ru/210938-sovremennye-otechestvennye-ajerostaty-voennogo-naznachenija.html

[AlexWar]

It is necessary, apparently, to strike at once on airfields and adjacent roads.

[air wolf]

Here is the Bandera zoo, it would be nice to put a diesel engine on Geranium and they flew in a circle in Banderstat and quickly received target designation from space and the Khan’s VSM ...

[LeutnantTom]

Are there military satellites? located in the Moscow archive Maps of hidden railways and airfields.

Speaking of Germans
There is a good German military channel on YouTube, military and historical / Militär und Geschichte.
The channel makes good front-line reports and tells how and what the Ukrainians are up to. approximately!
But this is only in German, nevertheless it is interesting and possibly useful.

[HAM]

Well, since they cover the airfield, then it is used .... the Fritz handed over secrets

[alexoff]

There are not very many such airfields, there would be a dozen communists with MANPADS and the problem would be quickly resolved. But in our headquarters, it seems they don’t know how.

[Third district]

Quote from alexoff

There are not very many such airfields, there would be a dozen communists with MANPADS and the problem would be quickly resolved.

The Communists are now not in honor of our superiors. Although many units are fighting today under red flags. But this is, so to speak, an initiative from below. Just recently I saw an advertisement for a documentary film on the Russia 1 TV channel, which talks about how wrong Lenin was and what a knight on a white horse Kolchak was.

[Revolver]

Quote from alexoff

there would be a dozen communists to shove

The Communists ended on June 1953, 06, when the Khrushchev-Zhukov clique overthrew the last constitutional Soviet government through a military putsch. Brezhnev also came to power not according to the constitution, but by overthrowing Khrushch through undercover machinations. Although Khrushch was overthrown quite deservedly, there was no smell of constitutionality in this process. And all the subsequent heads of the USSR became such, albeit constitutionally, but it was already a Brezhnev constitution, not a Stalinist one. And a side effect of these games in power was that the communists were turned from the ideological avant-garde into unscrupulous opportunists.

[knn54]

Nagan, in 1953 the Bolsheviks ended, who differed from the communists in that they saw Lenin alive.
The last ones saw him at the coffin ...

[Sergey39]

Bild, the German anti-Russian mouthpiece, is hazy. All the same, converted Su-24s will be caught on jumps and destroyed. An airplane is not a needle in a haystack. Moreover, having studied the preserved curtains, Our Air Defense has developed an algorithm for the destruction of these missiles. How, I want the whole sky to be covered by Our air defense, but this is a desire.

[Al manah]

Our air defense has developed a destruction algorithm these rockets.

Probably flew over bridges others missiles? Or is there something wrong with the algorithm? Or maybe not with the algorithm? Is the conservatory okay?

[NickShel]

Our air defense has developed an algorithm for the destruction of these missiles.

Do warehouses and bridges in the Crimea and Berdyansk know about this?

[Al manah]

Oh, what rascals! Very bad! Even the really bad ones! No need to stand still...

[Rom8681]

Quote from alexoff

R-37M gives out under 400 km, if there was undercover intelligence and sane interaction with aviation, then it is quite possible to catch.

The fact of the matter is that we don’t have undercover intelligence, but about interaction
Aviation and infantry do not understand each other, and this is in one ministry.,.

[TermNachTer]

And how long will the resource of the engines be enough for such hauls, if it was already pretty shabby?

[Rom8681]

Quote: air wolf

it would be nice to put a diesel engine on Geranium

And where do we get such diesel engines, China cares to sell us, but something is not going well with the production of diesel engines of this class

[TermNachTer]

Germans installed aviation diesel engines back in World War II - and it worked out well. Is it really impossible to reproduce or buy now?

[Sergey985]

What planes were they on, may I ask?

[APASUS]

The ghoul signed himself, at the crime scene, that's an idiot

[isv000]

Do not take it as cunning: there are no sites suitable for takeoff / landing from the satellite? We don't have long-range nishtyakov to write off? Can't break the runway? Or "Abramovich and Co" do not order?..

[Radical]

Quote: BMP-2

The legend is fresh, but hard to believe: it is possible to fix not only the place of deployment, but also the very fact of movement.

AND ? I mean, what's next? It seems to me that these carriers take off from Polish and Romanian airfields, ours know, but do not have an order to work on them. They will wait for the pancake repetition of the 41st year. The same applies to guided boats - they are most likely coming from Turkey, and Romania, and this is probably known to our intelligence, however, the contract master will never give an order to eliminate the problem - the partners will not understand, because they don’t whistle at Russia1, and others Pimenov's star channels are not just partners, but the keepers of the dough that flows from the country to their foreign accounts, because it's so easy to calculate all this kitchen! And we won’t tear bridges across the Dnieper, and we won’t storm Kyiv, Odessa, and much more because they are of the same blood .... This is where our main problem lies. With a man who is anti-Soviet and denies the role of Stalin in the great Victory, the country will never defeat anyone!

[Radical]

Quote: svp67

Quote: BMP-2

it is possible to fix not only the place of deployment, but also the very fact of movement.

It is possible, but having a full-fledged space constellation that provides round-the-clock sounding of the airspace over Ukraine. And now we have it created?

Kyiv covers the Su-24 bases with modern Western anti-aircraft systems, including German IRIS-T and American Patriot, the publication claims. It is hard to believe in this, Ukraine simply does not have such a number of the same Patriot air defense systems, and the available ones cover Kyiv.

And I would carefully consider this statement. Not only is the Vasilkov airbase next to Kiev, but there are plenty of general-purpose airfields, the same Zhuliany, Boryspil ...

Well, then continue the thought?

[perm18]

Well, it's hard to catch planes. but just take and destroy the refinery and there is no fuel, nothing will take off and go, and also destroy the substations so that they do not have electricity. and all are factories. everything is worth it.

[Alexandru Falticineanu]

I wonder, Mig 31 is especially built as an cruise missile hunter, why isn't it used for hunting Storm Shadows?

[AlexWar]

These dryers can be restored in Europe for the Armed Forces of Ukraine

[AlexWar]

https://eagle-rost.livejournal.com/677354.html
read how Su-24 aircraft are restored in Ukraine
The complete set of radio-electronic equipment of the Su-24M aircraft consists of more than one and a half hundred main instruments and units. In turn, many of them also have up to a dozen components. Of this number, only a few were produced in Ukraine during the Soviet Union. In the 90s, this would not have been a problem: Ukraine inherited several bombers of this type, of which only a small part was used, so finding a serviceable unit at storage bases was not a problem for a long time. However, years have passed.
“Today,” notes the workshop manager, “we have to repair blocks, replacing individual elements in them. Radio circuits of some of them. In other cases, we take a non-standard approach. For example, recently one of the masters, having studied the circuit board and the placement of parts, recently drew a diagram of the device and repaired it.
And with regard to individual units, drastic decisions have to be made: if possible, they are replaced with modern analogues, often with much better characteristics. The main problem is the compatibility of modern digital and outdated analog devices. The first attempt was carried out several years ago, when two Su-24Ms were modernized in this way for one of the foreign customers.
In Nikolaev they apparently repair them, but you can move the production to a location away from the front line