CIPSO Spasms: Disguise as Z-Telegram

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CIPSO Spasms: Disguise as Z-Telegram


CIPSO Menagerie


Russia is incomparably harder than Ukraine in the information war. The enemy has tightened the screws from the very beginning of the special operation, and now, even for a video of Russian missile strikes, you can get a real term there. We must pay tribute, the Telegram space of Ukraine is very organized. It is said to bombard the Russians with disinformation - the channel administrators unanimously salute them. What is more here - fear of the SBU or fear of losing to Russia? The question is rhetorical, and we will not get answers to it soon.



Conventionally, enemy resources can be divided into several types. In order to avoid advertising them, we will avoid specific examples.

So, the first ones are anti-Russian information channels that do not descend to cannibalism and savoring sadistic details. Some are still published in Russian, clearly hinting at the target audience from Russia and new regions.

These usually have a wide range News. They can throw a post about the situation in Niger, following the information about another "zrada" at the front. Usually they appeal to international humanitarian law, without highlighting the negativity of either their own or the enemy. Provocations and disinformation are especially hard to find among such people. Channels are being flooded with foreign analytics, often with criticism of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and Zelensky himself.

The second type of Ukrainian sources are former “intellectuals” who had a neutral position before the special operation. Usually conducted by technical or historical channels, or just highly specialized ones. Despite the generally good content, it's funny to read. The once respected author is pushing, squeezing out their own propaganda, from which he himself is sick. We hope it's boring.


The third type of "Telegram" channels are ardent nationalists who collect hryvnia for the next pickup truck for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. They publish reports from the fronts, videos and photos of military clashes, often borrowing information from Russian sources. Some even blackmail readers with demands to close the next collection as soon as possible, otherwise a video with destroyed Ukrainian equipment will appear.

And finally, the fourth type is uniformed cannibals who collect the most scum from the public in Ukraine. The typical content of such dumps is limited to videos of dropping grenades from quadrocopters, or mockery of the dead Russians. For example, over the parents of a girl who miraculously survived on the Crimean bridge.

There are quite a few Telegram channels in Russia, and very different ones, but none of them allowed themselves something similar in relation to Ukrainians. Cannibals from Ukraine set themselves two goals - to raise the morale of the very bottom of the nationalist rabble and to intimidate a Russian who accidentally entered.

There is also a fifth type of "Telegram" channels, which are trying to skillfully disguise themselves as Russian Z-sources. It is sad and funny at the same time, but there are many such dumps among domestic ones. With tenacity worthy of a better application, they continue to work for CIPSO. Many consciously, and some intuitively wishing for the speedy defeat of Russia. But now it's not about them, but about enemy channels with an audience of many thousands.

By the way, the absence of hundreds of thousands of subscribers does not mean that the eatery is widely known only in narrow circles. Reposts and simple forwarding of high-profile news automatically multiply the number of content recipients by 2–3, or even tens of times. One of these was the Telegram channel “Kremlin Snuffbox”, which has been leading its history since the beginning of April last year.

"Kremlin snuffbox"


The name in TsIPSO for their channel was clearly spied on by the “Kremlin laundress”, which “digs, erases, sorts dirty linen”. In the end, it didn’t work out very well - the court immediately arrested three administrators of the Telegram channel on charges of extortion.

The office is suspected of a common business practice. First, the platform is promoted (the laundress has 250 subscribers), informers are fed, and then they demand to pay for a “block on the negative” from media personalities. That is, money in exchange for the absence of a discrediting publication.

The loudest scandal on this topic happened last year with the office of Ksenia Sobchak - the commercial director of the diva was detained for extortion from a "Rostec official".

Laundresser has a smaller person - former FSB colonel Mikhail Polyakov and part-time administrator of the channel is charged with extortion of 40 million rubles for refusing to disseminate negative information about the Lanit IT company. Be that as it may, the truth will be revealed by the court, and we will return to the enemy channels.

So, the "Kremlin snuffbox", which, as it can, mimics the Z-channel.


Only now they work in TsIPSO in haste, often forgetting. For example, channel administrators allow public communication in Ukrainian. For example, “Will we write about Kherson in the brand book?”. Lost, of course, but everyone remembers the screenshots, and the Internet stores them securely.

Caught "Snuffbox" and for more obvious things. For example, for a series of publications about the imminent return of the Prigozhin team to big politics, and Wagner to Russia, the source got on the Fake Cemetery channel. An attempt to rock Russia did not find a response, and the premium TsIPSO passed by the administrators of Tabakerka.


You need to know the enemy in person, so it's time to reveal the channel administrator - New Secret (ID - 5245463087). It’s far from a full-fledged “deanon”, but it allows you to track the typical logic of the work of the CIPSO.

New Secret, immediately after the launch of the project, staged a long and massive attack on the chats of social and political channels. Black PR "Kremlin snuffbox" met with "Kommersant", "Lentach" and others. Someone managed to erase it in time, while someone had links in the chat for a long time.

Aggressive marketing allowed the channel to quickly gain 15 subscribers, and with them, bonuses from CIPSO to administrators. Interestingly, New Secret is diligently putting together a portrait of a typical patriotic Telegram channel in Russia. Mimicry requires a reliable original. The list of subscriptions of the Tabakerka administrator includes @olegtsarov / Oleg Tsarev, @proofzzz / evil proof, @readovkanews / readovka, @romanov_92 / romanov light, @ssternenko / sternenko and others.

The “Kremlin snuffbox” is an example of the enemy’s systematic approach to informational influence on Russians. Despite the fact that the special operation has been going on for the second year, a considerable part of the citizens still have not developed immunity to enemy propaganda.

The success of CIPSO in Russia is, first of all, a marker of the presence of an appreciative public. In order for enemy propaganda to thrive and flourish, fertile soil is needed. And this, perhaps, is the main problem of modern Russia.
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  1. +7
    31 July 2023 05: 26
    It’s difficult to write a comment, I’m not subscribed to any of the TG channels that exist there.
    1. +7
      31 July 2023 07: 39
      He signed only on his relatives, colleagues, yes Sladkov +, and VO. there will be no victory
      1. -9
        31 July 2023 09: 43
        Our cause is just, the enemy will be defeated, victory is ours!

        Quote from: dmi.pris1
        But we don't. There is no end goal, there will be no victory

        But how much can you talk about the ultimate goal? The president has nothing else to do, what would every day three times - in the morning at lunchtime and in the evening, talk about it? So in my opinion - who does not want to hear, he will not hear.

        Who has not heard, I repeat. Our ultimate goal in Ukraine is the denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine, which consists in the following :

        - change of power in Ukraine, with our help, or the Ukrainians will do it themselves - no difference;
        - holding referendums in all regions on the issue of joining Russia or the creation of republics within Russia or Ukraine;
        - the rest of Ukraine becomes an independent state consisting of Russia, Belarus and Ukraine;
        - rejection of any part of Ukraine - is not allowed;
        - Those who do not want to come to terms with this are obliged to leave Ukraine within a year. A year later - who did not "hide", we are not to blame.

        Two questions for forum members:

        1. If the administration of the site, to facilitate the work of the CISO, removed the flags of the forum participants (so that we would not recognize the enemy), does it become an accomplice of the CISO?
        2. If one of the authors of the articles on the forum (R. Skomarokhov) writes only nasty things about Russia and its Armed Forces, does he work for the interests of the CIPSO?
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        2. +1
          31 July 2023 18: 06
          And to catch up, in what category is Girkin's cart of 'angry patriots' 800 thousand subscribers ... who, with a nix, all fled, 15 people came when they sent him to the bunk ...
          Every day the nuts are tightened ... so long as the threads are not torn off
          1. +1
            31 July 2023 18: 30
            I read comrades who, regarding the possible closure of Girkin, said: "The heroes of Donbass will come to support other heroes of Donbass, and these are not some frail kreakles who can only record their arrests on the phone and shout pazog-pazog-pazog."

            And now, at the picket during the election of a measure of restraint, Girkin is knitted with the people's governor of Donbass Gubarev. And what do those who come to support do? You will not believe.

        3. LMN
          +1
          31 July 2023 19: 14
          Quote: Boris55


          Two questions for forum members:

          1. If the administration of the site, to facilitate the work of the CIPSO, removed the flags of the forum participants (so that we would not recognize the enemy), does it become a member of the CIPSO?
          2. If one of the authors of the articles on the forum (R. Skomarokhov) writes only nasty things about Russia and its Armed Forces, does he work for the interests of the CIPSO?


          Regarding R. Skomorokhogo, he is more of a "conjunctivist".
          Even before the start of the SVO, he noticed that within a couple of months he could release two directly opposite articles. In one, the RF hait. In the other Union.
          Naturally, each collects hundreds of comments. What is actually required, views.
          1. +1
            31 July 2023 21: 21
            Quote: LMN
            Quote: Boris55


            Two questions for forum members:

            1. If the administration of the site, to facilitate the work of the CIPSO, removed the flags of the forum participants (so that we would not recognize the enemy), does it become a member of the CIPSO?
            2. If one of the authors of the articles on the forum (R. Skomarokhov) writes only nasty things about Russia and its Armed Forces, does he work for the interests of the CIPSO?


            Regarding R. Skomorokhogo, he is more of a "conjunctivist".
            Even before the start of the SVO, he noticed that within a couple of months he could release two directly opposite articles. In one, the RF hait. In the other Union.
            Naturally, each collects hundreds of comments. What is actually required, views.

            In defense of Roman Skomorokhov!!! good drinks
            This "konyuturschik" - if I were a state prosecutor - I would have already wound 10 life sentences for my articles on VO laughing laughing bully
            But I am on the side of VO !!! soldier
  2. +10
    31 July 2023 05: 45
    How, in the second year of the NMD, we clearly lack such an organ of influence on the enemy. I will add a single body that would manage and direct propaganda to the troops and the population of Ukraine. And it would be fine, we did not have such an organization at the beginning, but now it would be possible to fuss in creating it.
    Why did they miss the opportunity to lure people from the press pool of the same Prigozhin into this organization? There are very strong specialists, very ... Look how PMC Wagner and personally Prigozhin were glorified and how they influenced enemy units.
    1. +11
      31 July 2023 07: 06
      I agree: TsIPSO all around! All filled up. You follow the author's recommendations there: check yourself for compliance with the criteria of "not being exposed to enemy propaganda", check your surroundings - what if there are agents of the CIPSO or sympathizers of the "bloody clown" lurking .. and it doesn’t interfere with checking your wife, but suddenly she is a Ukrainian and secretly sympathizes Ukraine and someone there in Ukraine allegedly calls relatives or sends messages, reports secret information, directs drones or reports the results of strikes or conducts covert propaganda in the family for Ukraine. You need to be more vigilant, comrades, this is such a difficult time ... The Motherland is in danger.
      1. +15
        31 July 2023 10: 37
        and it doesn't hurt to check the wife
        The king once got up "on the wrong foot".
        For the kingdom with all my heart,
        He called out: “Enemies! Enemies all around!"
        Like, this is a national idea.

        Anyone with her is easy to overtake now,
        Who said something unflattering about the king.
        And the servants took up this cry
        And they scattered it throughout the kingdom.

        Well, the end of the campaign is
        In history, the textbook has become:
        Send so zealously the servants to the enemies,
        That even the king was afraid to live.

        And yet, when the king gets up and from "the wrong foot",
        Still yelling: "Enemies! Enemies all around! .."
    2. +3
      31 July 2023 07: 55
      Quote: svp67
      How, in the second year of the NMD, we clearly lack such an organ of influence on the enemy.

      The very phenomenon of "anonymous telegram channels" (with absolutely zero standards for working with information, it's just the bottom, but someone reads it) is typical for an environment with certain conditions. It occurs where people feel an acute lack of information and have low trust in the traditional media that they are administratively ordered to consume. At the same time, they are sympathetic to anonymity, seeing that it is dangerous to break out of officialdom. Such an environment cannot fail to become a convenient breeding ground for disinformation for all possible stakeholders.

      As for attempts to arrange an impact, they exist. Someone launched a deepfake with Zelensky calling for laying down arms.
    3. +19
      31 July 2023 09: 18
      Quote: svp67
      Look how PMC Wagner and personally Prigozhin were glorified and how they influenced enemy units.


      The success of the Prigozhin team was not only in the professionalism of those people who were responsible for information support, but also in the fact that the TRUTH was broadcast on at least one of the parties .... there was a clear line where they were, where the enemy was, and where it was said about jambs which we allowed.

      And the people love the truth, they compare different information, they try to determine the truth and they really don’t like it when they are kept like a herd.

      And now let's take the pro-government telegram channels, the media .... how are the stories about the return of Medvedchuk, grain deals, gestures of "good will", failures in the management of the RF Armed Forces and an explanation of why we stand still for 1,5 years? No way .... uncomfortable questions / stories are either skipped by at all (the same Solovyov’s telegram channel), or they find the right experts who broadcast, not the truth, but the right point of view, just insert a post with the right information and people put likes ... and sometimes miracles happen when channel administrators remove negative likes for a post, + specifically close comments on posts in the discussion.

      And how with such a position, will there be support from the people? After all, thinking people understand everything ... how, why and why. Therefore, the translation of the necessary information does not reach the address. people do not believe! And in order to believe, you need to speak as it is, the truth, no matter what it is.
  3. 0
    31 July 2023 06: 42
    Taki Zips does stuffing into the Cart every day, I'm already used to it. The Khokhl is immediately visible behind any mask.
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  5. +6
    31 July 2023 07: 44
    I'm subscribed to TG channels. It is interesting to read different opinions, but I do not perceive anything on faith. Mass media is a powerful weapon for manipulating public consciousness. The main thing here is to be able to separate the fish from the bones. Although I often find myself retelling someone else's opinion.
    1. +5
      31 July 2023 08: 18
      Quote: Glock-17
      It is interesting to read different opinions, but I do not perceive anything on faith.

      It only seems that you do not perceive. There are many ways to influence opinion without direct persuasion. For example, if the same message in any form is repeated many times, the audience will trust it simply from frequent mention, this is called https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effect_of_illusion_of_truth Zelensky is a drug addict, but repeating this many, many times as a given (and not even as the main idea, but, as they say, "forward"), and after a while no one will even remember whether it was at all at the very beginning like - that is justified. Those who do this are well aware of such tools.
      1. -1
        31 July 2023 09: 34
        never provide evidence that Zelensky is a drug addict
        Anyone who has had the dubious honor of dealing with drug addicts will immediately notice. They noticed that Yeltsin was an alcoholic. I have friends who use (one of them is a doctor, by the way smile ) and they redeem theirs at once.
        1. +11
          31 July 2023 11: 16
          Quote: Bolt Cutter
          Anyone who has had the dubious honor of dealing with drug addicts will immediately notice. They noticed that Yeltsin was an alcoholic.

          Yeah ... they noticed when it was already too late - Boris Alkogolik became president of an independent Russian Federation and began "reforms".
          And before that, the people's love for Boris Nikolayevich was such that people did not even believe the videos - "he got sick, he was tired, the KGB deliberately slowed down the film".
          On September 18, Pravda reprinted an article by Vittorio Zuccona from the Italian newspaper Reppublika, which depicted Yeltsin's "adventures" in America and the amount of alcohol he drank. On October 1, the first program showed an hour and a half film about Yeltsin's trip to the United States. The central episode was a lecture at Hopkins University. The viewers saw a man who was unsteady on his feet, spoke slowly, drawing out his words. There was a complete impression that Yeltsin was drunk.

          However, all attempts to discredit Yeltsin had the opposite effect. Near the editorial office of Pravda, pickets were lined up with posters “We will respond to every provocative article in the press with speeches at rallies!” “Unita and Republika have a direct campaign - they defame, defame, shout! From this campaign - people, attention! - Yegorov's ears are sticking out! The editorial office of the newspaper was sent decisions of party meetings condemning the publication discrediting a member of the Central Committee, a member of the USSR Supreme Council, Boris Nikolaevich Yeltsin.

          HCI, the case then ended with repressions against the official media.
          1. -8
            31 July 2023 11: 39
            Boris Alcoholic became President
            Among the Russian proletariat, alcoholism was even a plus - like our man, like foreman Ivanych - an advance payment for drinking, and a paycheck for the family. I myself heard such "voters".
  6. +18
    31 July 2023 07: 46
    The record stuck: tsipso, tsipso ... For me, this is already an indicator word, like "petrov and bashirov". If these words are found in a comment, there will definitely not be anything smart in it.
    1. +11
      31 July 2023 11: 31
      Quote: Galleon
      The record stuck: tsipso, tsipso ... For me, this is already an indicator word, like "petrov and bashirov". If these words are found in a comment, there will definitely not be anything smart in it.

      Well, nevertheless they actually are, as on the other hand and "guards". The latter act more straightforwardly and just "massively" identify "CIPSOs" laughing
      And where between these "two fires" go people with their own opinions? Maybe it's better to just "keep it to yourself"? laughing
      PS: With the last paragraph, I apparently got to the point laughing! The first "-" 2 minutes after the publication of the post is a witness to this laughing. I suspect that now it will "arrive" from both those and others laughing request recourse
      1. +8
        31 July 2023 11: 44
        Quote: Adrey
        Well, they do exist anyway.

        There are those who argue. Where should people go? Probably not in a hurry to change your views and still do your job in your place. And then, that disposition of the brain is bad, which easily believes and is easily excited without checking and correcting what the eyes see and what you yourself encounter in this life. And the gullible... There will be no tsipso, there will be a TV. There will be no TV, advertisers will come with shitty irons or insanely priced vacuum cleaners. There will be no vacuum cleaners, "good people", "study the Bible", sectarians will come. Don't put your brains in.
        "The power of some needs the stupidity of others," as one wise man said. It happens more often that you need to keep it with you, our grandfathers and fathers lived like that, and we ourselves. That's why I don't care it's a cisso.
        1. +8
          31 July 2023 11: 55
          Quote: Galleon
          Probably not in a hurry to change your views and still do your job in your place.

          Yes, this is understandable. As well as the fact that methods of influence will be found, one or the other, according to the moment.
          Quote: Galleon
          It happens more often that you need to keep with you, our grandfathers and fathers lived like that, and we ourselves.

          Unfortunately, the outcome is not encouraging. request hi
          1. +2
            31 July 2023 17: 53
            Quote: Adrey
            Unfortunately, the outcome is not encouraging.

            Not happy. But in the end, it does not interfere with living life as fathers, whom, whatever you say, we remember with longing and respect.
  7. +5
    31 July 2023 08: 11
    They themselves are to blame: TsIPSO should be recognized as a criminal organization, its employees as combatants, like Waffen SS soldiers, and destroyed along with the offices of this office without any pity.
  8. +31
    31 July 2023 08: 30
    It is very convenient to write off everything on TsIPSO. No one has done more to discredit the government and the NWO than the government itself.
    Ukrainian propaganda is effective primarily because it is understandable and systemic.
    There are clear statements that everyone can understand. From ntelectual to the last gopnik.
    1. We were attacked, we are victims of aggression. They want to take ours from us.
    2. We will not negotiate until the enemy is defeated.
    3. We use all methods to win. We will need to blow up bridges, attack UAVs, burn Russian Railways equipment, blow up enemy ideologues, seek the arrest of enemy rulers.
    4. We have many allies with us. Help is constantly being sent to us, which means we are doing everything right. Will criminals not be supported?
    5. Well, all this fits perfectly with the propaganda of previous decades. Including ours. About the cruel USSR in which everyone was tortured, shot and starved.
    What do we have?
    1. Indistinct status of the NWO and its goals. (just don’t need to repeat about demi and den. The only document where they at least somehow tried to tie it to numbers and specific requirements. They showed it only a year later. And then partially. At the same time, we were deceived)
    2.30 years of propaganda against the USSR, and then an attempt to hide behind its achievements.
    3. Constant requests for negotiations.
    4. Continuous complaints that we were deceived. And yet we still make agreements.
    5. Lack of clear allies.
    6. Trade with those whom we declare enemies, then respected partners.
    7. Unpreparedness for combat operations of the entire system. A mess with mobilization and monstrous corruption in the rear services.
    8. The annexation of regions before the end of the NWO, which generally contradicts the originally declared goals, and a shameful flight. Moreover, this flight was denied until the last moment.
    9. Deception with "Azov" and mobilization.
    10. Boasting before the start of the NWO and in the early days. High expectations of the population.
    11. Poor coverage of the course of hostilities.
    12. Free movement of senior officials of the enemy on the front line.
    This is what the enemy propagandists are hitting on. So there is nothing to kick on the mirror.
    1. -8
      31 July 2023 09: 38
      There are clear statements that everyone can understand.
      Goebbels, too, theses, and everything else, were a solid five. The problem with Ukrainian propaganda - according to that, they are doing so well, well, so excellent laughing why do you ask yourself the question - do they still surround Irkutsk or are they already fixed on the outskirts of Vladivostok? And then, having estimated what's what, you understand that they tried to pull you effectively, but not very skillfully Yes .
  9. +10
    31 July 2023 08: 32
    CIPSO in Russia
    Well-forgotten old? CIPSO all around, citizen, be vigilant the enemy is not asleep! They overlaid us, they overlaid us .. Yeah, maybe we can go back to the past? You, dear gentlemen, made fun of spy mania in the USSR, threw some substances, ahhh the communists created in the country, especially before the war, an atmosphere of spy mania and distrust, looked for enemies of the people, and when they found, they "in nothing, nothing, nothing Finovaty "(c) were .. And after the war, until the very collapse, you claimed that all their voices carried the good and eternal, the truth to the country .. And now, both of them, around tsipso, spies and traitors? And this is in a country of victorious democracy? How is it?
  10. +17
    31 July 2023 08: 39
    Signed for military review, since they blocked it, I don’t know why. The two majors who blocked them also did not answer clearly. Well, RIA Novosti is complete, there, for now, read it, until they let it through. Question to the author, according to your criteria, the leadership of Russia and the Moscow Region are working for TsIPSO. I don’t watch the speeches of the guarantor, which means I am the enemy. 60 minutes, Solovyov never looked. Propaganda in Russia is at the level of the speech of the clergy, everything that is said is true, because it is the truth.
  11. +14
    31 July 2023 08: 39
    They scare you with chips, forgetting what harm pseudo (!) Patriotic propaganda (all these false chat bots-calmifiers) and implausible reports of Mr. K.
  12. +13
    31 July 2023 09: 01
    Nothing unusual.
    It’s exactly the same with us, the authors telepathically take out of their heads what Putin, the Kremlin, Zelensky, NATO generals think, and honestly post everything in articles.

    And when it doesn’t come true, they pretend that they didn’t write anything ....

    Over there Single-n described what and how.
    moreover, one can write endlessly about the forgotten promises and absurdities of our authorities and the media ....
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  14. +1
    31 July 2023 09: 31
    I always said that we let it take its course and there is no single center of counter-propaganda.
    It's amazing that this hasn't been done yet..
    Is someone hindering or is it just the laziness of officials?
    1. +5
      31 July 2023 12: 33
      there is no single center of counter-propaganda.
      When there is no counter-propaganda and the center is not needed.
      1. +2
        31 July 2023 14: 39
        Quote: kor1vet1974
        there is no single center of counter-propaganda.
        When there is no counter-propaganda and the center is not needed.

        It is truth too. What a waste of stress. Sadness.
        True, we have a propaganda center - the Yeltsin Center.
        The truth is not there propaganda.
  15. +16
    31 July 2023 10: 52
    Russia is incomparably harder than Ukraine in the information war.

    So can you look in the mirror why the population of the Russian Federation turns to "alternative" sources for information and questions the "product" of its own propaganda?
    Everything is simple. It's a matter of trust.
    If the expectations of the population after the "declarations" of the authorities diverge from the goals / deeds of these same "declarations", then to whom is the question about "harder"?
    The center of the current "truth" - Yeltsin - the center stands and smells. Does it accurately reflect the truth about the majority country?
    Whoever cast a "bullet" in granite about Soviet "galoshes", but continues to use the results of these "galoshes", surely you need to believe unconditionally?
    And the "talking head", which "... sometimes brings such a blizzard ...", also needs to be trusted unconditionally?
    How are the May decrees doing and the task of creating and modernizing 2020 million jobs by 25?
    About pension reform, in general - no comment.
    About the recent increase in wages, which means, in the opinion of the authorities, the growth in the well-being of citizens - no comment ....
    And that's why you can't trust all the Western media, the question is.
    For example, the other day I saw an interview with an American on an American channel, who thanked our President, you know what?
    For the fact that with the start of the NWO, Putin at the moment defeated the coronovirus epidemic around the world. Literally, "one day everything stopped." wink
    So what's wrong? Or is it different? belay
    1. +6
      31 July 2023 12: 36
      Well, you are so .. You said just now, hard times are coming with a hint that you still have to tighten your belts, how can you not believe it? Already here he cut, the truth is the uterus. smile
      1. +1
        31 July 2023 17: 05
        Quote: kor1vet1974
        He said just now, hard times are coming with a hint that you still have to tighten your belts, how can you not believe it? Already here he cut, the truth is the uterus.

        What kind of pessimism?wink
        If he was preoccupied with some kind of problem, then the result came out exactly the opposite.
        Let's hope that this time the result will be exactly the same and only the Forbes Russia list will have to tighten their belts wink
        Although dreams, dreams! Where are your sweets? Dreams are gone... lol
  16. +1
    31 July 2023 10: 59
    They started doing this even under Yushchenko's Maidan, under the supervision of the Saxons. Further on accelerating, well, after 2014 it just started. The basis on which it all rests is that any lie is justified if it harms the “aggressor country”. That is why I call this territory 404, this pseudo-state has no boundaries of behavior. Even in the Saxon countries that invented fakes, propaganda and lies face certain risks of exposure, possible resignations and scandals. Well, these 404s don’t care at all, and they sculpt without restrictions. How to deal with it?
    1. Silence / prohibit
    2. Criminal. So, for trouble
    3. Expose
    4. Destroy
    1. +4
      31 July 2023 12: 39
      "It hurts our souls
      Voices thousands of miles away.
      We do not stifle America in vain
      Oh, do not crush Israel in vain:
      With all its hostile essence
      Undermine and harm -
      They feed us, drink us bermuta
      About the mysterious square!" (c) smile
  17. +2
    31 July 2023 12: 38
    work in TsIPSO in haste, often forgetting. For example, channel administrators allow public communication in Ukrainian. For example, “Will we write about Kherson in the brand book?”.
    could screw up because of the Ukrainian T9, if there is one.
  18. 0
    31 July 2023 12: 48
    I don't read telegram at all. I am sure that if something really happens, I will be informed about it on television.
    1. Alf
      +2
      31 July 2023 13: 08
      Quote: Katya_Ivanova
      I will be told about it on TV.

      Do you also believe Konashenkov? The zomboyaschiku should be trusted only as a last resort.
      1. +3
        31 July 2023 17: 36
        Don't you know that scientists have been saying for a long time that enemy propaganda is 100% false, and their own propaganda is 100% true? It's an axiom!
        1. Alf
          +3
          31 July 2023 18: 32
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          Don't you know that scientists have been saying for a long time that enemy propaganda is 100% false, and their own propaganda is 100% true? It's an axiom!

          I know, but Katya Ivanova, no.
    2. 0
      31 July 2023 22: 09
      Quote: Katya_Ivanova
      I don't read telegram at all. I am sure that if something really happens, I will be informed about it on television.

      I don't watch TV crying
      What did they say when Medvedchuk was exchanged for the top of the Azov people (a banned terrorist organization in the Russian Federation)? feel
  19. +7
    31 July 2023 12: 53
    Well, you yourself need to be able to think, analyze incoming information, and not be puppets in the hands of others, not only believe in what you want to believe.
  20. +7
    31 July 2023 13: 04
    For me, the problem is that a lie brings benefits in the short term, the truth - in the long run. There are many examples of this. Now show me at least one government that does not work for an election period, but for the future of the country and the population? The problem today is unsolvable in principle, everyone lies, and the CIPSO is only a mechanism here, whoever believes it is to blame.
    1. -3
      31 July 2023 15: 47
      Quote: BoyCat
      now show me at least one government that works not for the election period, but for the prospect of the country and the population?

      This is the Ukrainian government. They also canceled the elections.
      1. 0
        31 July 2023 21: 57
        Sarcasm counted. Cons not from me laughing
  21. +5
    31 July 2023 15: 51
    "CIPSO Spasms"
    Yes Yes. Look at the news comments on rambler. Frank Russophobia, mate, insults to which the moderators frankly put. Notice those that the rambler does not belong to TsIPSO, but to the talented and energetic head of Sperbanka. So who and with whom should fight?
  22. +2
    31 July 2023 16: 47
    There is a once respected well-known St. Petersburg Internet publication "F ... ka" named after the river of the same name. So there in the comments there is a relatively large number of users with an openly anti-Russian and pro-Ukrainian position. Any news, even political, even everyday, is commented on in a pronounced anti-Russian bias. Notes with information about the explosion of the Crimean bridge and others of this kind are welcomed with positive likes. Sometimes they write under the guise of locals, sometimes they turn in the 3rd person. Surely many such commentators also work in the notorious tsipso ...
    And it would be fine, but something else surprises. editorial position.
    It is worth, for example, calling a Russophobic commentator a Bandera or a dill, and the comment is blocked, etc. and so on. The successes of the Russian army are either hushed up or published with reservations that imply a double meaning. But the successes of the enemy side are presented promptly and without semantic reservations.
    The position of this Russian publication began to resemble in many respects the position of the late Ekho Moskvy. ....
  23. 0
    31 July 2023 19: 50
    Not interested.
    The text of your comment is too...
  24. +2
    31 July 2023 22: 21
    Around the enemies and the homeland will be saved only by mass executions? Or will we block the cart?
    1. 0
      1 August 2023 11: 03
      Quote from ivan_zaitcew
      Around the enemies and the homeland will be saved only by mass executions? Or will we block the cart?

      It does not interfere. You need to shoot and block.