Stone Middle Ages: the beginning of change

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Stone Middle Ages: the beginning of change
Rose in the Sainte-Nazaire Cathedral in Carcassonne. Author's photo


...beginning, end and middle of time,
twists and turns and times.

Wisdom of Solomon 7:18

stories by stories Middle Ages. Today we continue the story about the professions of the Middle Ages related to construction and reflected in the illustrations of the Book of the Twelve Brothers. Well, it will probably be necessary to start with a reminder that manual labor in the construction of castles and cathedrals, firstly, required a large number of workers, and secondly, great knowledge from architects, which was supposed to be kept secret. It was not customary to advertise their names either.



Only in the 1211th century did the first evidence of the names of their builders appear. An inscription in the Reims Cathedral says that its construction was begun in 11 by Jean of Orbe, and continued by Jean and Gaucher of Reims, while a certain Bernard of Soissons worked on its facade with a rose window. In Notre Dame Cathedral, you can find the inscription: "Master Jean of Chelles began this work on February 1258, XNUMX."

Medieval builders still did not know much and relied on experience and intuition where only mathematical calculation was needed. The construction of vaults was considered especially difficult, the secret of which was passed down from generation to generation. It was believed that a person on his own is not able to solve such a difficult task as laying a reliable vault. Behind the backs of successful builders, they said that they were friends with the devil himself.

In Lorraine, for example, a priest was excommunicated as a heretic on the grounds that he designed a wonderful bridge: something that an orthodox Christian was not capable of. In other German principalities, a dead dog or a rooster, or even a horse, was thrown into the finished building, if only to propitiate the "spirit of the place." Here, it turns out, how difficult and often risky was the work of a builder in the Middle Ages.

In Spain, for example, they said: for the construction of a good arched bridge, the evil one will certainly demand a sacrifice, and those who dare to cross it may die. Therefore, the Spaniards came up with a trick: they drove a black cat across the bridge, hoping that in this way they managed to deceive the evil spirits.

The cathedral was built by several hundred people at once. And it is clear that none of the builders worked for free. The lowest group were the laborers. These were peasants who were looking for work in the city, or runaway serfs. They dug a ditch, carried earth, stones and mortar.

The work of artisans was much higher valued: for example, members of the stonemasons workshop. Some of them selected stones and subjected them to primary processing, others carved stone blocks and were engaged in stone carving. The sculptors who decorated the entrances to the temple with patterns and statues of saints were especially valued. After all, then the gates to the temple symbolized the gates to the Kingdom of Heaven.

The masons also had their own shop. The scaffolding was high, it was very dangerous to climb on them and work at a height, as if laying out arches and vaults. The higher the walls of the cathedral grew, the more difficult and difficult was the work of the builders.

Often, in addition to the basic salary, masons received a bonus for laying the keystone - the last stone that closes the vault. It was a symbol of the longevity of the building, so the capstone of the Rouen Cathedral in 1233 was even carved with the inscription: "Durand completed me."

The carpenters also played an important role. They built scaffolding and built a huge construction farm out of wood, supporting a stone vault. The blacksmiths supplied the builders with tools, nails, staples, and the casters cast lead for stained-glass windows.

Roofers also performed a very important job, because the most beautiful building with a leaking roof is not worth much.


Roofer. Hymerand Mullner, member of the fraternity. In an illustration from The Book of the Twelve Brothers, he stands on a ladder and covers the roof with tiles. 1537 (Amb. 279.2° Folio 25 verso. Landauer I)

In the Middle Ages, builders laid out the roofs of castles and cathedrals from the so-called roofing slate - a special stone that easily split into layers, from which roof tiles were then hewn out. By the way, on the roofs of most of the towers of the Carcassonne fortress, the roofs are made of slate.

They could also cover the roof with tiles, but less wealthy homeowners, even in the city, were content with roofs made of reeds and straw, just like in village houses.

Roofs were covered with sheets of lead. It was a very strong and waterproof roof, but it required very strong wooden floors and walls to support them, and besides, it was also very expensive.


The most common types of medieval roofing: a - from slate, b - from ceramic tiles, c - from reeds and straw

The working day lasted almost 17 hours: on the other hand, there were more than 100 holidays a year on which no one worked! They didn't work on Sundays either. Therefore, other artisans worked on a single cathedral all their lives. The record for long-term construction was broken by the Cologne Cathedral, which was erected intermittently for 632 years!


Klaus, stonemason. In the illustration from the "Book of the Twelve Brothers" he is depicted with a pick in his hands, that is, since 1425, his main working tool has not changed at all in 125 years! The tools he uses lie on the floor, but the master determines the accuracy of the edges of the stone block using a wooden square. 1550 (Amb. 279.2° Folio 38 verso. Landauer I)

Time passed, the Middle Ages as such ended, but the tools of the stonemason remained the same, as, by the way, judging by the illustration, and the methods of work. However, if outwardly nothing seems to have changed in the work of a stonemason, the changes have actually taken place very large.

So, by the end of the Middle Ages, hewing stones became much more complicated and became truly sophisticated. The stone-cutter now without fail began to engrave his brand on the stone, the so-called "day laborer's brand", with the help of which it was possible to easily calculate his output and, therefore, determine his earnings. Other marks, the so-called "laying", began to show where and how to lay this or that hewn stone.

Note that the architecture of castles, as well as church buildings, each country had its own. Castle towers in France had mostly gabled roofs. The Spaniards, under the influence of the Muslim Moors, widely used decorative stone and brick decoration (for example, stone hemispheres on rounded towers).

And according to the architectural features of Italian castles, one could judge whether their owners recognized the power of the German emperor in Italy or not. This could be distinguished by the teeth on the wall: if one tooth was separated from the other by a part of the parapet with a groove, this means that the sympathy of the owner of the castle is on the side of the emperor.


Street of the medieval city. Drawing by contemporary artist

Walking along the dirty and narrow streets of medieval cities was not very convenient and pleasant. At first, carts of hay were simply thrown on them, so that people would trample it into the mud themselves. But the square in front of the town hall and the shopping malls were always paved with stone.

There was even a special specialty - a brukovka, who paved the streets with cobblestones. And this business was not at all simple, but consisted of a number of operations, which is why cobblestone pavements were quite expensive. They included: preparation of the base, sorting the cobblestone in height and width (in terms of); laying of cobblestone, crushing of voids, tamping, and finally, backfilling with sand and rolling.


Brukovschik Heinrich, a member of the fraternity. Depicted sitting on a stool in the middle of a still not fully paved street, he drives a cobblestone into the ground with a hammer handle, and the trowel lies to his right. In the background is a large house with a stepped gable. True, at that time far from all the streets of medieval cities were paved. But gradually the paved streets became more and more. 1456 (Amb. 317.2° Folio 77 recto. Mendel I)

However, the most important thing is that at the turn of the XV-XVI centuries. The old knightly castles were replaced by luxurious castles and palaces of the Renaissance. So, the owners of the Loches castle in the Loire Valley also built an impressive defense system around the donjon of their castle: they provided for watchtowers, drawbridges, and lattices. But the very appearance of the castle has changed a lot: people moved from the art of defending themselves to the art of living beautifully.


Hans, a member of the fraternity, painter and part-time pig slaughterer. In the illustration, we see him with a full set of tools: a trowel, a bucket for lime, a pickaxe, an ax, a set of measures for sausage. On the right, his assistant is holding a pig (only his hand is visible) destined for slaughter. That is, the slaughter of pigs was a completely permissible type of part-time work for the painters of that time, although this is not mentioned in the inscription under the illustration. But behind it is a house with scaffolding, a pulley and boxes of mortar in the background, as well as his friend, who does just that and whitewashes the wall. 1586 (Amb. 317b.2° Folio 46 recto. Mendel II)

Window openings are now increasingly decorated with ornaments and double bindings, and the windows themselves have become much wider. The rooms on the upper floors became smaller, and the doors acquired decorative arches. All rooms are now equipped with carved fireplaces with caps decorated with sculpture.

Gilding and paintings are applied to the ceiling beams, columns, doorways, and the walls are covered with large colorful carpets and bright tapestries, painted with frescoes depicting scenes of Holy Scripture, knightly tournaments and battles.

Life has changed rather slowly but surely...
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  1. +5
    29 July 2023 05: 00
    Funny. Why did painters earn money by slaughtering pigs? Is the author aware?
    1. +4
      29 July 2023 06: 35
      Quote: Andrey Moskvin
      Is the author up to date?

      Address this question to the authors of the Book of 12 Brothers. She doesn't give details of why.
      1. +6
        29 July 2023 07: 03
        Life has changed rather slowly but surely...

        Time passed very slowly, even stopped .. - after all, the description of the period does not mention the Black Death - the plague .. the peak of the epidemic of which occurred in 1346-1353 ... Tens of millions of people became victims of the disease: according to various estimates, from 30% to 60% died from the disease population of Europe… so everything was slow too….

        Then comes the Renaissance, the Age of Discovery... The Age of Enlightenment, the Age of Industrialization - and stone cathedrals, pavements, the Old City inside the city walls... Time will be accelerated by wars and financial capital...

        I am writing based on Riga - the Hanseatic city, founded just in 1201, by the Teutons, and for centuries, until 1727 and beyond - retaining a German character. Then he was diluted with Russian, but mostly - Ostsee Birons and Livens - the faithful servants of the Tsar ...

        Thanks Vyacheslav Olegovich, maybe in Riga and Tallinn - examples of medieval architecture on the territory of the Empire, if possible, touch ...
        1. +1
          29 July 2023 07: 43
          Time passed very slowly, even stopped .. - after all, the description of the period does not mention the Black Death - the plague .. the peak of the epidemic of which occurred in 1346-1353 ... Tens of millions of people became victims of the disease: according to various estimates, from 30% to 60% died from the disease population of Europe… so everything was slow too….

          No need to dramatize. Europe's population has recovered to pre-pandemic levels in 2 generations. Greater mortality breeds greater fertility.
          1. +2
            29 July 2023 08: 16
            Just different types of strategies. Direct analogies with animals or plants.
            1. +2
              29 July 2023 08: 39
              Direct analogies with animals or plants.
              Quite right! How do we differ from the rest of the "created world", the "spark of God"? And then, not always...
              1. +3
                29 July 2023 10: 23
                Exactly. It's funny. 10 minutes ago we remembered the “God's spark”. I couldn't help but remember.

                I'm embarrassed to talk about planets
                I will tell how people fight, struggling.
                God of the universe, man is
                As he was from time immemorial.
                It would be better if he lived a little bit, do not dawn
                His you are God's spark from within.
                He calls this spark with reason
                And with this spark, cattle live by cattle.
                I beg your pardon, but according to your methods
                It looks like some kind of insect.
                Half flying, half jumping
                He whistles like a locust.
                Oh, if he were sitting in the mowing grass
                And I would not poke my nose into all the squabbles!
            2. +3
              29 July 2023 09: 37
              And then, not always...
              Note that the minuses instructed me all the way only prove the axiomatic nature of this thesis. To the exclusion...
              1. +3
                29 July 2023 10: 25
                Previously, what is now called phytocenology was called phytosociology.

                Then they decided that not everything can be transferred to people.
          2. +4
            29 July 2023 12: 02
            Quote: 3x3zsave
            No need to dramatize. Europe's population has recovered to pre-pandemic levels in 2 generations.
            Two generations is 50 years. During this time, the shortage of people greatly changed Europe.
            1. +2
              29 July 2023 12: 19
              In those days - 30-35 years. But I agree with you, the plague really changed Europe.
      2. +2
        29 July 2023 14: 43
        You are in a hurry, Vyacheslav. It was possible to thoroughly break through this amusing question. wink
        1. 0
          30 July 2023 10: 12
          Quote: Andrey Moskvin
          You are in a hurry, Vyacheslav. It was possible to thoroughly break through this amusing question.

          Get used to licking foam. Exactly - it's not for me.
    2. +12
      29 July 2023 08: 31
      Quote: Andrey Moskvin
      Why did painters earn money by slaughtering pigs?

      Perhaps these are some subtleties of translation. As a hypothesis, I can offer the word troddel, which in German means a brush (sometimes a shaving brush). From this it follows that this is not a painter who paints the walls, but a person who makes brushes for painting from pig bristles. This is just my guess, in a good way you need to see the original text ...
      1. +2
        29 July 2023 09: 14
        Perhaps these are some subtleties of translation.
        Absolutely right! My regards!!!
      2. +6
        29 July 2023 11: 01
        Luminman hi
        Exactly! After all, the German word for artist is maler.
    3. +2
      29 July 2023 10: 16
      Quote: Andrey Moskvin
      Funny. Why did painters earn money by slaughtering pigs? Is the author aware?

      Probably to put the nerves in order. Maybe they did this so that later they could eat hearty and tasty food ... Yes Although I may be wrong...
      1. +1
        29 July 2023 16: 57
        Have you seen how a boar is pricked? If for the first time, then you won’t sleep for a long time, and you will have your nerves in order. laughing
        1. +1
          29 July 2023 18: 30
          Yes, it's okay to prick a boar. And no one feels any extra emotions at the same time.
        2. 0
          29 July 2023 21: 37
          Quote: Andrey Moskvin
          Have you seen how a boar is pricked? If for the first time, then you won’t sleep for a long time, and you will have your nerves in order. laughing

          What is there to keep you awake?
          Or did you have such boars, for example, they spread their tentacles. ,:) Then yes. :)
  2. +6
    29 July 2023 05: 31
    Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich!

    So Mephistopheles himself says:

    Cooking is not my forte.
    I build bridges over the abyss.
    1. +3
      29 July 2023 09: 34
      Quote from Korsar4
      Mephistopheles

      As for his bridges, there was even an article somewhere on the site ...

      Good day, Sergey! hi
      1. +4
        29 July 2023 09: 52
        Quote from Kojote21
        article on the website

        Found it, it's called: Like the devil <<was an architect>>.
      2. +3
        29 July 2023 10: 28
        Greetings, Artem!

        Yes. Valery had an article.
        1. +5
          29 July 2023 10: 40
          Quote from Korsar4
          Greetings, Artem!

          Yes. Valery had an article.

          Really. There were a lot of comments under it ... It was a good article ...
  3. +8
    29 July 2023 06: 11
    And it was also possible to drag stones, columns, dismantling the structures of past cultures. And even build a new temple on the foundation of the old one. Everyone did this: Egyptians, Mayans, Arabs, Byzantines, Spaniards..
    1. +8
      29 July 2023 06: 28
      An example from Damascus: The Umayyad Mosque. Before that - the Christian Temple. And before that - pagan.
      1. +6
        29 July 2023 07: 39
        The grandiose structures of antiquity were pulled apart for a millennium. Some corny could not physically overpower. For example, the Colosseum in Rome. Now the truth is that tourists do it. According to the deputy mayor of the Italian capital, a truck takes a week to buy souvenirs - sometimes two!
        1. +5
          29 July 2023 07: 41
          Judging by this statement, new trucks with "ancient stones" have to be imported.
          1. +4
            29 July 2023 07: 51
            Gianni Rodari wrote about this .... .
          2. 0
            29 July 2023 21: 50
            Quote: 3x3zsave
            Gianni Rodari wrote about this .... .

            Just a business.
            How much is the rope: "from Judas"?
            :)
  4. 0
    29 July 2023 06: 50
    Even the previous article gave me some doubts that the artists of the "Book of the Twelve Brothers" really painted "from life". That is, it is certainly possible to plaster from top to bottom, but it is very (!) Labor-intensive. However, it is impossible to mount the roof from the ridge to the eaves with "hard" materials from the word "absolutely"! ("Soft" is possible, but in a year the roof will flow)


    Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich!
    1. +1
      29 July 2023 07: 41
      I also thought that "brother fritz" disassembles the roof of the barn
      1. +2
        29 July 2023 07: 53
        Moreover, in a barbaric way, fucking with a sledgehammer on the tiles.)))
    2. +6
      29 July 2023 07: 54
      That is, it is certainly possible to plaster from top to bottom, but it is very (!) Labor-intensive.

      Brick buildings with precast concrete floors. First, the top of the walls is prepared from the scaffolds, then the rustication between the slabs is embroidered. The seams are preliminarily caulked, filling them with tow or other fibrous material so that the caulk does not reach the front side of the plates by 20 mm (this space will be filled with mortar). Defects on the floor slabs are covered with a solution, leveled and overwritten. After that rub the husks. Plaster first the top of the walls, then the bottom.



      It's from
      Shepelev A.M. 'Plastering (Textbook for vocational schools)' \\10th ed., revised. and additional - Moscow: Higher School, 1983 - p.144, ill

      My experience of working on construction sites in the USSR confirms that they plastered from top to bottom.
      1. +2
        29 July 2023 08: 14
        My experience of working on construction sites in the USSR confirms that they plastered from top to bottom.
        My experience of dismantling in "Stalinka" also confirms this. At a height of 3 meters, one centimeter of plaster is on top, and five centimeters below. A kind of buttress, the main thing is not to remove the scaffolding until the wallpaper is pasted.
        1. +7
          29 July 2023 08: 35
          My experience of dismantling in "Stalinka" also confirms this. At a height of 3 meters, one centimeter of plaster is on top, five centimeters below

          This is a pure marriage. Or a deliberate violation of technology for the sake of the successful "implementation of the plan."
          1. +1
            29 July 2023 09: 03
            This is not a marriage, this is the norm. A bricklayer of the fifth category cannot lay out 8 cubes of bricks along a cord and a plumb line in an eight-hour shift, even if there are two helpers.
            1. +2
              29 July 2023 12: 10
              A bricklayer of the fifth category cannot lay out 8 cubes of bricks along a cord and a plumb line in an eight-hour shift, even if there are two helpers.

              Where are these rules?
              According to the ENIRs of 1986, depending on the complexity and thickness of the wall, a bricklayer of the fifth category was given up to 4,5 hours per cubic meter of masonry.
              I seem to have enough practice in this matter. Eight cubes in eight hours is difficult to lay even on backfill and with helpers.
              1. +3
                29 July 2023 12: 23
                There was an acquaintance, the winner of the social competition in professional skills ...
                1. +2
                  29 July 2023 12: 35
                  Oh, how victories in socialist competitions were forged - one could write a whole series of articles, I wonder how Shpakovsky missed such a topic. Where is the "poisoned pen". Drama and comedy rolled into one.
                  1. +3
                    29 July 2023 13: 00
                    Drama and comedy rolled into one.
                    Not that word! More like a farce. At the same time, everyone around understood: God forbid, exceed the plan by 100%!
                    And where could the premium for saving materials come from?
                    1. +4
                      29 July 2023 15: 01
                      The implementation of the plan was usually 101,2 - 101,4 percent. This allowed, on the one hand, to receive all the required bonuses, on the other hand, it did not threaten to revise this very plan.
                      Saving materials has always been a slippery topic. It was impossible not to save, and save a lot - the same. The rules will be reviewed. So they maneuvered within a percentage - two.
                      1. +3
                        29 July 2023 15: 20
                        I was told about 99% exceeding the plan. Soviet construction is another topic for research ... Very furunculous ... .
                      2. +3
                        29 July 2023 15: 28
                        I was lucky in this regard. He went through all the stages, from the foundation pit and bored piles to the roof, finishing work, communications, everything. Production and installation of joinery. Nine-story brick residential building.
                      3. +4
                        29 July 2023 15: 38
                        I got lucky too. I saw the Soviet construction at the very end. And I know all her shoals by heart.
                      4. +3
                        29 July 2023 16: 08
                        And I know all her shoals by heart.

                        And I got an apartment in 1991. Cooperative. There were jambs there ... The walls on the wallpaper held.
                      5. +4
                        29 July 2023 16: 23
                        It’s kind of funny, of course, but I built my parents’ apartment myself ...
                      6. +2
                        29 July 2023 20: 35
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        It’s kind of funny, of course, but I built my parents’ apartment myself ...

                        Uh-huh someone. I was drowning in the pit of the house where my mother lives. Played, stumbled barely swam. Indeed, this was the second time. The first is in the pit of the hospital. The foil boat leaked.
                        It's already dark, tomorrow I'll take a picture of the masonry of my mother's house and mine. I did it myself, for the first time and on a whim. I can confidently say that my “creativity” is better than that of the builders of those times. About saving building materials. Excess after the construction of the house was buried. When I started building my house next to my mother's apartment, I tritely drove a tractor and dug it out.
                        The bottom two rows of foundation blocks on top of the base are just from that stash.
                      7. +3
                        29 July 2023 17: 19
                        To be honest, if I now say that in the USSR there were queues for milk, the neo-communists will shower me with pissing rags. Meanwhile, I froze my legs in this queue
                      8. +3
                        29 July 2023 18: 44
                        I don't like queues at all. In particular, queues for milk. Especially in winter.
                      9. +4
                        29 July 2023 20: 42
                        Quote from Korsar4
                        I don't like queues at all. In particular, queues for milk. Especially in winter.

                        Hello, Sergey! That's why I know why Anton doesn't like cats, but cats love him!!!
                      10. +3
                        29 July 2023 20: 40
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        To be honest, if I now say that in the USSR there were queues for milk, the neo-communists will shower me with pissing rags. Meanwhile, I froze my legs in this queue

                        The worst were the lines for bread. It was possible to buy it only in two places in the bakery (shop) and the bakery (kiosk attached to it). Two hours of life every day. However, it was not the line itself that was flour, the grandmothers in it - which pumped melancholy with the prices of sausage, sugar and salt.
                    2. +2
                      29 July 2023 21: 54
                      Quote: 3x3zsave
                      Drama and comedy rolled into one.
                      Not that word! More like a farce. At the same time, everyone around understood: God forbid, exceed the plan by 100%!
                      And where could the premium for saving materials come from?

                      Stop was welcome. I mean five. But not more
                  2. 0
                    30 July 2023 10: 17
                    Quote from Frettaskyrandi
                    how victories in socialist competitions were forged - one could write a whole series of articles, I wonder how Shpakovsky missed such a topic.

                    It is necessary to go to the party archive, and this is such a ... vile place, painful memories are associated with it. So this is a last resort.
    3. +6
      29 July 2023 08: 07
      However, it is impossible to mount the roof from the ridge to the eaves with "hard" materials from the word "absolutely"!


      1. +2
        29 July 2023 08: 27
        This is a partial repair, not an installation. Which, by the way, is much more expensive.
        1. +2
          29 July 2023 08: 48
          I fully admit that "Roofer. Hymerand Mullner" performs just this very "partial repair".
          1. +3
            29 July 2023 08: 58
            Why? At the bottom, only the frame of the "Swabian house" is drawn.
            1. +3
              29 July 2023 09: 56
              I was not specifically interested in medieval building technologies, but I think if you dig into the literature, you can find an explanation.
              1. +1
                29 July 2023 20: 48
                Quote from Frettaskyrandi
                I was not specifically interested in medieval building technologies, but I think if you dig into the literature, you can find an explanation.

                VikNick, I found only one way to cover the roof with hard material from the top in them. Shingles on lining boards. And then it is better to cover from left to right ..
    4. +9
      29 July 2023 09: 57
      However, it is impossible to mount the roof from the ridge to the eaves with "hard" materials from the word "absolutely"

      Tiling is possible. Each tile has a system of grooves - protrusions. And they lay the bottom row slipping under the top one and hooking the protrusion into the groove. Due to what the tile is held on - there are no fasteners there.
      1. +4
        29 July 2023 10: 40
        Due to what the tile is held on - there are no fasteners there.
        Why, then, is the hammer in the hands of the artisan in the miniature? Knock out the tiles so that the comb fits into the groove?
        That's right, to support the dialogue, I know how a tiled roof is made.
        1. +5
          29 July 2023 10: 54
          Why, then, is the hammer in the hands of the artisan in the miniature? Knock out the tiles so that the comb fits into the groove?

          IMHO. The tiles were not made by automatic machines, for any discrepancies in size there were - deviations were beaten off with a hammer.
          1. +3
            29 July 2023 11: 10
            By the way, colleague, how did you lay the slate tiles mentioned in the text? There is no tongue-and-groove system.
            1. +4
              29 July 2023 12: 58
              and how they laid the slate tiles mentioned in the text

              I think the German way.



              Although both English and French are possible.
            2. +6
              29 July 2023 13: 09
              and how they laid the slate tiles mentioned in the text

              Somewhere it came across that wooden or ceramic ones were attached to the dowels.
              By the way, not much has changed now.
              1. +3
                29 July 2023 13: 25
                Somewhere it came across that wooden or ceramic ones were attached to the dowels.
                What prevented to fix ceramic tiles in the same way. Answer: nothing. Moreover, ceramics can be immediately made with the necessary technological holes for hardware, and hand-drilling slate is such a pleasure.
                By the way, I want to note that in this photo the roofing material is placed from the bottom up.
                1. +4
                  29 July 2023 14: 15
                  What prevented to fix ceramic tiles in the same way. Answer: nothing. Moreover, ceramics can be immediately made with the necessary technological holes for hardware, and hand-drilling slate is such a pleasure.

                  Len must have interfered. On ceramics, it is easier to make a comb and a groove at once than to bother with individual parts.
                  Roof hardware is too expensive.
                  It is unlikely that the slate was drilled, rather it was pierced with the sharp end of a hammer.
                  And if the material is laid from the bottom up, then 100% it is on dowels or hardware - they must be hidden from the weather with the top layer, and if it is placed from top to bottom, then 100% is a tile with fastening on spikes.
                  1. +5
                    29 July 2023 14: 32
                    Len must have interfered.
                    Here, of course, I agree. Laziness is the engine of human progress.)))
                  2. +1
                    29 July 2023 18: 43
                    Roof hardware - too expensive?
                    1. +1
                      29 July 2023 20: 06
                      Roof hardware - too expensive?

                      At the time, definitely.
                2. +3
                  29 July 2023 15: 18

                  Slate tiles from the Roman villa of Abermawr in present-day Wales. Approximately the middle of the III century.
                  The holes are clearly visible.
                  1. +2
                    29 July 2023 20: 18
                    .Perforations are clearly visible

                    Taking into account that they are at the top, then Anton's version is correct - they put it from the bottom to the top
                3. +2
                  29 July 2023 22: 05
                  By the way, I want to note that in this photo the roofing material is placed from the bottom up.
                  ,,,,,,,,,,,,
                  No, I understand that putting it on top is still a perversion. But: "our ancestors, people are dark and rude ..." (C)
                  :)
                  1. +1
                    29 July 2023 22: 53
                    Quote: Grim Reaper
                    By the way, I want to note that in this photo the roofing material is placed from the bottom up.
                    ,,,,,,,,,,,,
                    No, I understand that putting it on top is still a perversion. But: "our ancestors, people are dark and rude ..." (C)
                    :)

                    Then there would be two holes. One at the bottom, the other at the top.
                    As for "darkness". The groove in the log cabins was originally made on top of the logs. Then, by experience, they realized that the construction was short-lived and the log began to turn over.
                    Archeology clearly marks the development of wooden architecture; logs with a flat (straight) groove, a wedge-shaped groove from the top of the log and later from the bottom.
  5. +7
    29 July 2023 07: 28
    Vyacheslav Olegovich, colleagues good morning.
    The illustrations from the book: "The Twelve Masters" look funny now, it seems that the child was drawing.
    My Yana draws, her tongue sticks out, but most of all, she loves bars
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    2. +2
      29 July 2023 22: 09
      The illustrations from the book: "The Twelve Masters" look funny now, it seems that the child was drawing.
      ,,,,,,,,,
      Maybe a child, but we are now taking it apart
      :)
  6. +8
    29 July 2023 07: 47
    Walking along the dirty and narrow streets of medieval cities was not very convenient and pleasant. At first, carts of hay were simply thrown on them, so that people would trample it into the mud themselves. But the square in front of the town hall and the shopping malls were always paved with stone.

    In the early Middle Ages, Europe did not bother - they paved the streets with forest.
    In our country, this practice survived until the century before last.
    However, even Guderian "wept" in his memoirs that his tanks were sinking up the tower on the Minsk highway!
    Good day to all !!!
    1. +7
      29 July 2023 08: 09
      Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
      paved the streets with forest. In our country, this practice survived until the century before last.

      The Brighton embankment in New York is still covered with boards, which are periodically replaced with new ones ... wink
      1. +3
        29 July 2023 09: 17
        Their history is too short to change traditions.
        1. +6
          29 July 2023 09: 37
          Wooden pavement is quite a convenient solution for temporary mourning and pavement. If the board is laid on logs, then the service life can exceed ten years.
        2. +2
          29 July 2023 17: 31
          Quote: 3x3zsave
          Their history is too short to change traditions

          They have no history at all - bandits who imagine themselves to be gentlemen ...
          1. +1
            29 July 2023 20: 14
            Quote: Luminman
            Quote: 3x3zsave
            Their history is too short to change traditions

            They have no history at all - bandits who imagine themselves to be gentlemen ...

            The right "dandies" pave the sidewalks with "bull skulls" !!! laughing
      2. +2
        29 July 2023 22: 14
        Quote: Luminman
        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
        paved the streets with forest. In our country, this practice survived until the century before last.

        The Brighton embankment in New York is still covered with boards, which are periodically replaced with new ones ... wink


        Ploshchad 1905 in the EKB. It is still covered with stones. And there was even a major overhaul when the stones were taken out and put back. Fuck no one knows........
        History, you say? Well, yes, where is 1905 and what place is the EKB ......
        1. +1
          29 July 2023 23: 01
          covered with stones. And there was even a major overhaul when the stones were taken out and put back. Fuck no one knows........
          History, you say? Well, yes, where is 1905 and what place is the ECB .....

          I also found paving stones in Nizhny Tagil as a "fifth point".
          Let the Chief Skeptic of the site rejoice that there are registered residents on the 1905 Square in Yekaterinburg, otherwise they would have received Boris Yeltsin Boulevard with the metro station of the same name under it!
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            30 July 2023 23: 59
            Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
            covered with stones. And there was even a major overhaul when the stones were taken out and put back. Fuck no one knows........
            History, you say? Well, yes, where is 1905 and what place is the ECB .....

            I also found paving stones in Nizhny Tagil as a "fifth point".
            Let the Chief Skeptic of the site rejoice that there are registered residents on the 1905 Square in Yekaterinburg, otherwise they would have received Boris Yeltsin Boulevard with the metro station of the same name under it!

            It is strange that many people think that if there is a whole center in Ekb, then we are for it. Very strange. Well, let him try to interview the residents. Comments will be from: and who is it? Among young people. Up to :&#@₽#@ up to which are a little older.
  7. +8
    29 July 2023 08: 57
    Good morning everyone. We still have many houses under the old tiles. There were a lot of pictures, now I found one.
    And passing my house
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    Sorry, something didn't work for me.
    First time grabbing
    1. +4
      29 July 2023 09: 11
      Couldn't grab on. Together. I'll try separately
  8. +6
    29 July 2023 09: 42
    Good day to all! hi
    Colleagues, I congratulate you on International Tiger Day! Hooray!!
    1. +5
      29 July 2023 14: 50
      Again, damn it, cats! It became interesting "International Wolf Day" exists?
      1. +4
        29 July 2023 15: 05
        Anton, don't worry: even if wolves don't have an International Day and, given that they are weaker than lions and tigers, wolves have one indisputable advantage: they don't perform in the circus. smile
        1. +4
          29 July 2023 15: 13
          Artem, if you haven't noticed yet, I am a dog lover.
          1. +3
            29 July 2023 15: 16
            Quote: 3x3zsave
            Artem, if you haven't noticed yet, I am a dog lover.

            It's clear. How is Konstantin doing? Is everything okay with him?
      2. +5
        29 July 2023 15: 08
        Mowgli will try.

        And in literature, wolves are more than popular.
        1. +5
          29 July 2023 15: 14
          Sergei, more than! drinks

          There is such a channel Military Wolf. Once was in YouTube, then in Rutube and in Zen.
          He mainly talks about the weapons of various countries. And the funny thing is that "Military Wolf" in English means "Military Wolf"!
        2. +2
          29 July 2023 18: 57
          Quote from Korsar4
          Mowgli will try.

          Sherkhan is an example of this ...
      3. +4
        29 July 2023 15: 21
        Quote: 3x3zsave
        Again, damn it, cats! It became interesting "International Wolf Day" exists?


        Vyacheslav Olegovich promised to write about dogs and fulfilled his promise!
        In other German principalities, a dead dog or a rooster, or even a horse, was thrown into a finished building, if only to propitiate the “spirit of the place”
        drinks
        True, the seals through the paragraph also “drove” !!! Wildness, risking one of the nine lives of a cat testing the strength of a structure.
        By the way, livestock was indeed used in construction. I won’t lie about the Middle Ages, but there was a quitrent at the Ural factories. During the construction of the dam, cattle were driven along the top of the embankment. Moreover, they alternated large-horned with small. Many dams are still intact.
        About rituals. Nickels were placed under the crowns of houses. The custom exists to this day.
      4. +4
        29 July 2023 15: 23
        It became interesting "International Wolf Day" exists?

        Exists. August 13th.
        1. +4
          29 July 2023 17: 44
          Glory to you, Lord! This time coincided with the Builder's Day!)))
          I will arrange a dog festival!
          And then she got a little fat on maternal grubs.
          The day before yesterday I saw an absolutely correct Labrador.
        2. +3
          29 July 2023 20: 10
          Quote from Frettaskyrandi
          It became interesting "International Wolf Day" exists?

          Exists. August 13th.

          On the eve of the builder's day!!! laughing
          It remains to find the day of the “beard” in the calendar and ... .. the holiday was a success !!!!
          By the way, one can date something from the life of Tsarevich Alexander of the future as the third emperor under this name. He was the first of the Romanovs to allow his subordinates to wear beards. However, for very pragmatic reasons due to frost.
      5. +2
        29 July 2023 22: 27
        Quote: 3x3zsave
        Again, damn it, cats! It became interesting "International Wolf Day" exists?

        Those who did not have dogs can exalt kote over dogs. I confess. I, too, treated kotenadovseh. But, it was worth getting a Frenchman ......
  9. +11
    29 July 2023 10: 29
    It was interesting to read. Thanks to the author.
  10. +5
    29 July 2023 14: 17
    Damn, I wrote a bunch of comments under the article, but I didn’t do the most important thing ... Vyacheslav Olegovich, sorry, please, I completely forgot to thank you for the article !! Vyacheslav Olegovich, thank you very much!! Good luck in your scientific work!!

    Sincerely, your Artyom. hi
    1. 0
      30 July 2023 10: 23
      Thank you Artem! When you write for others, you learn a lot yourself. It makes sense to work hard!
  11. +4
    29 July 2023 15: 59
    [quote = Kote Pan Kokhanka] [quote]
    In the early Middle Ages, Europe did not bother - they paved the streets with forest.
    In our country, this practice survived until the century before last.
    [/ Quote]
    "And I'm going through wooden cities,
    Where pavements creak to me like floorboards"
    Gorodnitsky, mid-20th century. :-)