Dunnottar Castle: Once you see, you will never forget!

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Dunnottar Castle: Once you see, you will never forget!
Dunnottar Castle on the rock. Photo by G. Pisinger


“You have turned the city into a pile of stones, a solid fortress into ruins; the palaces of foreigners were no longer in the city; it will never be restored."
Exodus 25: 2

Castles and story. We have not turned to the history of castles for a long time, although VO readers remind the author of this constantly. People “want castles”, and that’s probably because this concept itself is associated in our minds with something especially reliable and durable, even if today these same castles lie in ruins. That's all in the same Scotland there are several such completely impregnable castles lying in different secluded places. Let's think of the same Stirling Castle or Edinburgh Castle, which are built on the tops of cliffs, which allows them to dominate the landscape for miles around. But if we had to choose only one place to which we can entrust our lives in a time of great danger one hundred percent, then it would, without a doubt, be Dunnottar Castle. No other Scottish castle can be compared with its feeling of absolute impregnability.




View of Dunnottar Castle 1890-1900 Photo courtesy of the US Library of Congress

This castle relentlessly tells anyone that looks in his direction: "Do not mess with me." And it's really better not to mess with him. And all because the rocky foundation on which Dunnottar Castle stands, as if specially designed by nature so that the most impregnable fortress in Scotland was built on it. Sheer cliffs, 160 feet high, almost completely surround a flat hill of more than three acres. Once upon a time, the rock was connected by a narrow isthmus to the mainland, but even it was removed to approach it there would be no possibility.


Plan of Dunnottar Castle: A - Benholm's Gatehouse and Residence • B - Tunnels • C - Tower House • D - Smithy • E - Waterton's Residence • F - Stables • G - Palace • H - Chapel • I - Back Gate • J - Vault Whigs • K - Bowling Green • L - Guardhouse • M - Rocks • N - North Sea. Author: Jonathan Oldenbook

The castle had only two entrances or exits, and that was it. Moreover, the first one went through the simply incredibly well-defended main gate, located in a rock crevice, where unwanted visitors were vulnerable to attack from literally all sides. The second passed through a stream leading to a cave on the north side of the cliff. From here, a steep path led up the cliff to an equally well-defended rear gate. Given Dunnottar's apparent defensive qualities, it's not surprising that it has been "home" for most of the last two thousand years, and possibly much longer.


Pictish stone with carved patterns. Photo from Dunnottar Castle website

The very name "dun" in the Pictish language means a fort, and it is believed that Saint Ninian came to Dunnottar in the late 400s, converting the Picts to Christianity and founding a chapel here. The Annals of Ulster describe the siege of Duin Feuther in 681, and most likely it was Dunnottar. Dunnottar is also the site of a battle between King Donald II the Mad and the Vikings in 900. Donald II was killed during the battle, after which the Vikings destroyed the castle.


Donjon. Photograph by Holder W. Schmitt

Beginning in 1100, references to Dunnottar became more and more frequent, as the local administrative center now began to be located here. In 1276, here on the site of the original chapel of St. Ninian was founded parish church. Edward I of England took Dunnottar in 1296, but a year later, William Wallace recaptured it from the British, and burned the church itself along with all the English garrison who had taken refuge in it. In 1336, the English again took Dunnottar, who was visited by Edward III and ... left on time, because in the same year he was again recaptured by the Scots, led by Sir Andrew Murray. From the late 1300s all of the castle's earlier fortifications, probably mostly wood, were demolished and replaced by stone ones by Sir William Keith. Moreover, the remains of the donjon are still visible today, as well as the remains of stone walls.


Road to the castle. Photograph by Holder W. Schmitt

In 1531 Dunnottar, declared "one of the main fortresses of our kingdom» by King James V, was transferred to the ownership of the Counts Marischals. Mary, Queen of Scots visited the castle in 1562 and 1564, and James VI stayed there in 1580. Between 1580 and 1650, the Counts of Marichal transformed the originally gloomy and impregnable castle into a luxurious mansion by building rows of buildings on the northeast side of the plateau. The rooms were luxuriously furnished, but at the same time they were reliably protected by formidable rocks and stone walls.


Wild place, to be sure, but very beautiful! Photograph by Holder W. Schmitt

By May 1652, Dunnottar Castle was the only place in Scotland where King Charles II could face Cromwell's forces under General George Monck. Parliamentary troops sought to capture the castle also because it kept the royal regalia of Scotland, the crown jewels and the personal archive of Charles II. But when on May 26, after an eight-month siege, the castle nevertheless surrendered, Cromwell's people did not find anything of value in it.


Remains of walls. Photo by Mariusz Matuszewski

Later it turned out that the king's papers were hidden in the clothes of one of the women. And the royal regalia were lowered off a cliff on a rope to another local woman who pretended to collect seaweed, but in fact carried them away under her hem. Well, then these treasures were hidden under the floor of the nearby old Kinneff Church, where they were until the restoration of the monarchy.


Crown Treasures of Scotland. Photo from Dunnottar Castle website

The darkest event in Dunnottar's history took place in May 1685, when 167 Covenanters, supporters of the 1638 National Covenant, the manifesto of the Scottish national movement in defense of the Presbyterian Church, 122 men and 45 women, were locked up in a Whig Retreat under one of the buildings in castle cellars. Some died of starvation and disease, others were killed while trying to escape. Well, all the survivors (like Captain Blood from the Sabatini novel) were sent to the colonies as slaves (where most of them died of a fever) after two months in the castle. In 1715, the tenth Earl Marischal supported the losing side during the Jacobite rising and was convicted of treason. His estates were confiscated, and the castle was sold to the York Construction Company, which took everything of value out of it: wood paneling of walls and ceilings, carved stone and, of course, tapestries and furniture, leaving only bare walls.


Today, many buildings of the castle have been restored. Photograph by Herbert Frank

The fact that it was very difficult to get to the castle probably saved it from complete destruction. So he stood until the twentieth century, when in 1919 he was not bought by the Cowdray family. The first Viscountess Cowdray immediately set about rebuilding the castle. Since then, this castle has remained in the property of this family and has been open to visitors.

Dunnottar Castle itself is off the secondary road but off the main A92 about a mile south of Stonehaven. The car park, which has been greatly expanded in recent years, gives access to a path that descends the cliffs facing the shore before climbing up to the castle itself. To get to the castle, you need to go down and then up more than 200 steps, so access for people with disabilities is problematic here. But such a walk gives a good opportunity to appreciate the unusual geology of the rocks of Dunnottar Castle, which are formed by large pebbles that form an extremely durable conglomerate. That's just the purpose of the passage, which someone once cut through the base of the rock, remains unclear.


Castle harbor. Photo by Karen Vernon

Entering the castle through the main gate, you can see opposite a number of cannon embrasures, most likely built somewhere around 1500. That is, those who broke into the castle would have been met simply by a shower of deadly fire. Well, for a modern visitor, Dunnottar Castle is a very interesting place. Plus it's very big. As a matter of fact, Dunnottar has not one castle, but three completely different groups of buildings and ancillary buildings scattered over a wide area. The fortress, built in the late 1300s and rising above the tip of the plateau, faces the land. Included with it are a warehouse, forges and a stable built in the 1500s.

Closer to the center of the plateau is Waterton House, actually a separate residence also built in the late 1500s for Thomas Forbes, Lord Waterton. The third distinct phase in the development of Dunnottar is the Quadrangle, built between 1580 and 1650, and which can be considered a palace in its own right. The "quadrangle" consists of three rows of living quarters around a grassy plaza containing a large circular pool, which is the castle's main source of water. The fourth side of the Quadrangle is formed by a chapel. It is the oldest surviving building on the rock, dating at least in part to 1276. Add to this a number of other buildings, most notably the magnificently restored living room in the northern part of the Quadrangle and the many cellars below it, where the Covenanters were kept.


Stonehaven War Memorial

Lord and Lady Cowdray, having bought the castle, immediately began work on the conservation and restoration of the castle and protected it from further destruction. In addition, Black Hill was donated by Lord and Lady Cowdray to the local community for the construction of the Stonehaven War Memorial. It was designed by architect John Ellis, and local residents organized fundraising for the construction of the monument. The construction is an unfinished round temple and was deliberately designed exactly as a reminder of the death and incompleteness of the full life of those who died during the war. The inscription carved there on the stone reads:

"One by one, death challenged them, but they smiled at her grim face and were not embarrassed."

Well, today the castle is one of the most popular and impressive tourist attractions in Scotland, which was visited by more than 2019 people in 135 alone.


Frame from the movie "Hamlet" (1990). Mel Gibson as Hamlet with Dunnottar Castle in the background

This castle was also honored by filmmakers. So, in 1990, the movie "Hamlet" with Mel Gibson in the title role was filmed here. Moreover, its creators saved a lot on decorations! And, of course, tourists are also attracted to the castle by the ghosts living in it. But what about without ghosts in an English, or rather, Scottish castle? Here and in Dunnottar they are quite enough. Firstly, this is a young soldier guarding the secret entrance to the castle. Then an ancient Viking, who appears at the foot of the castle and seems to be examining it for destruction. Interestingly, a dog is often seen next to this Viking. And she's a ghost too! And there is also a certain lady in a green dress, about whom for some reason no one knows anything. What she is looking for among the ruins is also unknown to anyone, but after a walk she usually hides in a room that is not at all as old as everyone else, namely in the building of a brewery, very popular among locals, which is located near the castle!
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  1. +11
    27 July 2023 05: 15
    Many thanks to Vyacheslav Olegovich for continuing the "castle theme" beloved by the Kamrads!
    There is a business proposal to the Author. Vyacheslav Olegovich - dare to take a swing at a cycle about our (domestic) fortresses? For example, if the comrades, if possible and wish to collect photographs of nearby objects? For example, can I “take by storm” Verkhoturye in September?
    Good morning boys and girls and have a great day! Sincerely, Kote!!!
    1. +8
      27 July 2023 06: 40
      Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
      There is a business proposal to the Author. Vyacheslav Olegovich - dare to take a swing at a cycle about our (domestic) fortresses?

      Good morning! Thanks for the interesting suggestion. There is an idea to write about the wooden fortresses of Russia, since there is a source. Let's start with Verkhoturye, I'm all for it. There will be an article - a list of cities for photographing to it, because I will not go everywhere. Soon there will be an article about my visit to the "fortress" of Psefabe. This is also Russia.
      1. +8
        27 July 2023 06: 47
        I can photograph Oreshek Vyborg and Priozersk.
        1. +6
          27 July 2023 07: 02
          Quote: 3x3zsave
          I can take pictures ... Vyborg

          Can you photograph neo-gothic buildings in Vyborg for me? However, it is difficult to call them neo-Gothic, but still. No commercial use, exclusively for your photo album. I love gothic, well, various metastases from it ...
          1. +6
            27 July 2023 07: 09
            Yes, sure. I do not promise that it will be in the near future, but I will. Throw off your "soap" in a personal.
            1. +6
              27 July 2023 07: 13
              Quote: 3x3zsave
              I don't promise it will be soon

              Yes, there is no particular hurry, as soon as the opportunity arises. Only one building from several angles. If the opportunity doesn't come, no big deal. Thank you in advance...
          2. The comment was deleted.
      2. +4
        27 July 2023 13: 50
        Agreed.
        In September, Il on vacation. I'm going to photograph the Kremlin in Verkhoturye!
        1. +3
          27 July 2023 17: 23
          Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
          I'm going to photograph the Kremlin in Verkhoturye!

          I will wait!
      3. +4
        27 July 2023 16: 37
        Good morning! Thanks for the interesting suggestion. There is an idea to write about the wooden fortresses of Russia, since there is a source. Let's start with Verkhoturye, I'm all for it. There will be an article - a list of cities for photographing to it, because I will not go everywhere. Soon there will be an article about my visit to the "fortress" of Psefabe. This is also Russia.

        And not wooden either. Astrakhan Kremlin, as an option. hi
    2. +11
      27 July 2023 07: 00
      Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
      There is a business proposal to the Author. Vyacheslav Olegovich - dare to take a swing at a cycle about our (domestic) fortresses?

      For example, about the mysterious Principality of Theodoro with its impregnable fortress Mangup.
      1. 0
        28 July 2023 07: 13
        Genoese fortress Cembalo. The first mention of the mountain on which the fortress was built dates back to the eighth century BC. Mount Kastron seemed to the Italians a good place for the construction of fortifications, although the Cembalo fortress appeared much later. In the middle of the 14th century, a rampart and a moat fortified with a palisade appeared on the mountain, as well as a tower inside which there was a gate passage. The commandant and seven riflemen guarded the Upper City on a permanent basis. In the first half of the 15th century, a new enemy appeared near the fortress - the Principality of Theodoro, whose representatives spoke Greek. Once the fortress was led by a Turkish pasha, who received an order to hold Cembalo under any conditions. The most devoted warriors of the ruler entered the garrison - they all died in the battle. Locals claim that the pasha's ghost still roams the ruins, making terrible sounds.
  2. +1
    27 July 2023 05: 18
    Thanks to the author for an interesting article. smile
    It was especially funny to read about the "lady in green" and her addiction to the local
    brewery. wink
  3. +8
    27 July 2023 05: 57
    What was the strategic importance of this castle? It is located on alienation, it is washed by water from three sides. Is it just to hide from the enemy in it? I ask the understanding people without a shadow of scoffing ...
    1. +6
      27 July 2023 06: 35
      24 kilometers north of the castle is Aberdeen - one of the residences of the Scottish kings.
    2. +8
      27 July 2023 06: 41
      Quote: Luminman
      Is it just to hide from the enemy in it?

      Is this not enough for you? For the sake of saving a life, you can not climb up there!
      1. +7
        27 July 2023 06: 49
        Quote: kalibr
        Is this not enough for you?

        Then why was he stormed? It's as simple as robbing nearby territories and on the way back it's just fun to wave a pen to those who have taken refuge in this castle ... wink
      2. +6
        27 July 2023 07: 08
        Quote: kalibr
        For the sake of saving a life, you can not climb up there

        Are you with us again? It pleases, right! Thanks for the charming series of articles! Right? hi
        1. +6
          27 July 2023 09: 12
          Quote: ArchiPhil
          you are with us again

          Where can I go from you!
    3. +6
      27 July 2023 07: 04
      Quote: Luminman
      What was the strategic importance of this castle? It is located on alienation, it is washed by water from three sides. Is it just to hide from the enemy in it? I ask the understanding people without a shadow of scoffing ...

      Hmm. And what was the significance of the castle in Muromtsevo? Count Khrapovitsky wanted to HAVE everything.
      1. +6
        27 July 2023 07: 08
        Quote: ArchiPhil
        And what was the significance of the castle in Muromtsevo

        Perhaps the whim of a rich man.
        And the Scottish castle was built on extortions from the local population, and this very local population should be protected. Moreover, not only their lives, but also property ...
        1. +5
          27 July 2023 07: 20
          Quote: Luminman
          Perhaps the whim of a rich man.

          No. Not a whim. Playing cards, right. hi
        2. +5
          27 July 2023 07: 45
          You know, my friend, living and being born in the capital city of Moscow, I have some roots in Vladimirshine. 1917 year.
        3. +5
          27 July 2023 08: 53
          Muromtsevo.
          о

          Been there? I absolutely recommend!
          1. +2
            27 July 2023 14: 36
            Quote: ArchiPhil
            Been there?

            Didn't have to...

            Quote: ArchiPhil
            I absolutely recommend!

            Some kind of wild mix of styles, screaming about the complete bad taste of the owner of this building. Something like home new Russians - a lot of money and a complete lack of taste. Everyone here is screaming: here I am!... wink
      2. +6
        27 July 2023 09: 08
        When you really want something, then they remember it for a long time.

        And in our middle lane, the estates are not castles.

        And water towers often remind of castles. Structure.
        1. +5
          27 July 2023 09: 27
          Quote from Korsar4
          And water towers often remind of castles. structure

          Hello Seryozh! And I also found * a glazed window * of the West! And I saw pools! Without water, right!
          1. +2
            27 July 2023 18: 19
            Good evening, Seryozha! We have already exchanged memories.

            But over time, it is impossible to fight.
    4. +8
      27 July 2023 07: 13
      What was the strategic importance of this castle?






      North-East of Scotland from the North Sea covers the plateau of Mounth. The bay where the castle is located is one of the few places where you can land on the shore and climb the plateau along a crevice that cuts into the coastal rocks for almost four kilometers, after which you can move inland.
      1. +6
        27 July 2023 07: 21
        Quote from Frettaskyrandi
        The bay where the castle is located one of the few placeswhere you can land on the beach

        There were other places as well. There are no dupes to climb impregnable walls now and there were none then... wink
        1. +9
          27 July 2023 10: 00
          There are no dupes to climb impregnable walls now and there were none then...


          There are places where you need to get on the object of the assassination, not to climb impregnable, in fact, vertical rocks, but to descend from them)))

          Here is the Nanxihe River.
          For millennia, the river, like a knife, cut through the rocks, forming a gorge a kilometer deep. At the bottom, the banks are narrow, in the narrowest place - 30 or 40 meters. In other places, only slightly wider. And the people of Bo settled there in ancient times with their oddities of burial)))
          And now there is the city of Zhaotong, solid high-rise buildings right next to each other, and on the high-rise buildings there are some other buildings. The length of this winding, narrowest city in the world is 5 km. The video is impressive.
          What about impregnability? Yes, throw something on top.
          That is why fortresses were built on hills. The law of universal gravitation does not contribute to the assault with slings. Invented another)))
        2. +5
          27 July 2023 16: 35
          There were other places as well. There are no dupes to climb impregnable walls now and there were none then... wink

          Even too often they took him, for "impregnable". wink
    5. +8
      27 July 2023 12: 08
      Quote: Luminman
      What was the strategic importance of this castle?

      The "strategic" significance of this or that object is determined by the current situation in the theater of operations.
      And the castle - any - is important not only as a shelter from the enemy, but also as a base for military operations in the area. Roughly speaking, a castle garrison can control a district for half a day's march. Plus, the harbor, albeit small and not very convenient, but, nevertheless, capable of receiving some kind of ships.
      1. +3
        27 July 2023 14: 30
        Quote: Trilobite Master
        a castle garrison can control a parish for half a day's march

        Just in order to rip off tribute to the local population, and then take refuge in the castle. It looks like the fortress of Rurik on Ladoga, which even had an entrance from the sea - very telling friendship with local Slavs and Finno-Ugric...
        1. +8
          27 July 2023 15: 03
          What a strange idea you have about medieval life. The castle is the dwelling of the feudal lord and, in combination, the place where his squad was based. In peacetime, no one robbed anyone - the peasants themselves brought to this castle what was required of them. In wartime, the castle is a reference point for controlling the territory. Until the castle was taken, the conqueror could not fully control this territory.
          As for Ladoga, the fortress had two entrances - from the side of the river (and not the sea, if you read somewhere about the sea in Ladoga - get it out of your head) and from the side of the field, where the market was located and people actually lived, who had nothing to do with the squad - artisans, merchants and other people. Most of the houses in Ladoga from the time of Rurik are Scandinavian, but there are also Slavic, and quite rich ones. There is even a hypothesis, quite, in my opinion, real, that these were the houses of the tribal Slavic aristocracy, such as their representation in the "capital".
          1. +2
            27 July 2023 17: 21
            Quote: Trilobite Master
            As for Ladoga, the fortress had two entrances - from the side of the river (and not the sea, if you read somewhere about the sea in Ladoga - put it out of your head)

            Of course, not the seas, but the rivers - one thing in the head, but another on the keyboard ... wink
  4. +6
    27 July 2023 06: 40
    And there is also a certain lady in a green dress, about whom for some reason no one knows anything.
    I think it's simple. Mary Stuart brought a Green Lady look-alike from Stirling.
    Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich!
    1. +4
      27 July 2023 07: 11
      Quote: 3x3zsave
      green lady
      Lady goes only *red*! Classic, sir! Good morning, Anton!
      1. +4
        27 July 2023 07: 25
        Lady goes only *red*!
        This is a color stereotype.
        Hello, Sergey!
        1. +2
          27 July 2023 09: 18
          Quote: 3x3zsave
          This is a color stereotype.

          Oooooh! To yesterday's victory?
      2. +4
        27 July 2023 09: 09
        And to dance like Kitri in Don Quixote. Or Carmen.
        1. +5
          27 July 2023 09: 30
          Or Countess Erzsébet Bathory.. ......
          1. +4
            27 July 2023 09: 36
            Quote: 3x3zsave
            Or Countess Erzsébet Bathory.. ......

            Terrible! Just like ....**zenith*! Sorry, FRIEND, nothing personal! bully
            1. +4
              27 July 2023 09: 47
              Terrible!
              And who promised that it would be easy and profitable?)))
              1. +2
                27 July 2023 10: 15
                Quote: 3x3zsave
                profitable?

                Roth en berg! Does that mean something???
              2. +3
                27 July 2023 10: 25
                Quote: 3x3zsave
                profitable?)))

                Have news!Report?
                1. +1
                  27 July 2023 10: 30
                  Have news!Report?
                  I'm not sure... Better about castles.
  5. +12
    27 July 2023 07: 09
    Given Dunnottar's apparent defensive qualities, it's not surprising that it has been "home" for most of the last two thousand years, and possibly much longer.

    The best illustration of the thought that everything in this world passes...
    But something remains forever - changing quality, but not changing in its basic essence. Monument to the labors and lives of people.

    Good day to you, dear Vyacheslav Olegovich!
    Good day, dear friends!
    Let's live and God bless us all.
    1. +5
      27 July 2023 07: 17
      Quote: depressant
      Good day to you, dear Vyacheslav Olegovich!
      Good day, dear friends!
      Let's live and God bless us all.

      How wonderful! How wonderful to be with you! And it's true. *history *? It? We! Glad, right, glad! hi
    2. +5
      27 July 2023 08: 18
      Quote: depressant
      Given Dunnottar's apparent defensive qualities, it's not surprising that it has been "home" for most of the last two thousand years, and possibly much longer.

      The best illustration of the thought that everything in this world passes...
      But something remains forever - changing quality, but not changing in its basic essence. Monument to the labors and lives of people.

      Good day to you, dear Vyacheslav Olegovich!
      Good day, dear friends!
      Let's live and God bless us all.

      Good morning, Lyudmila Yakovlevna! hi
      Mutually!!
  6. +10
    27 July 2023 07: 11
    I wonder when it was Charles II who managed to make war with Cromwell, if Cromwell gave his soul to God in 1658, and Charles II ascended the throne only in 1660?
    1. +6
      27 July 2023 07: 47
      I wonder when it was Charles II who managed to make war with Cromwell, if Cromwell gave his soul to God in 1658, and Charles II ascended the throne only in 1660?

      Charles II was King of Scotland from 1649 to 1651, before the Battle of Worcester.
    2. +7
      27 July 2023 08: 03
      I wonder when Charles II managed to make war with Cromwell
      The author probably meant Richard Cromwell, the son of Oliver, who was supported by Monk. And under Charles II, he means General John Lambert, who forced Richard Cromwell to resign, dissolved parliament and declared a dictatorship, and J. Monk opposed him .Yes, and what is there, Monk himself, contributed to the return of Charles II, for which he was awarded the title of Duke of Albemarle, the title of Knight of the Order of the Garter, granted a large annual pension. Monck also became Master of the Horse, Lord Lieutenant of Ireland and Captain General.
      1. +3
        27 July 2023 08: 12
        The author probably meant Richard Cromwell, the son of Oliver, who was supported by Monk. And by Charles II, he means General John Lambert

        The author meant Oliver Cromwell and Charles II.
        1. +6
          27 July 2023 09: 07
          The author meant Oliver Cromwell and Charles II.
          But Charles fled to France in October 1651, and the siege in 1652? Who is with whom? It was like this, Oliver Cromwell, besieged the castle where the supporters of Charles were, in order to take possession of documents and relics?
    3. +5
      27 July 2023 13: 33
      Quote: Grossvater
      I wonder when it was Charles II who managed to make war with Cromwell, if Cromwell gave his soul to God in 1658, and Charles II ascended the throne only in 1660?

      In 1650.
      The fact is that Charles II ascended the English throne in 1660, and in Scotland he was crowned ten years earlier. This led to the Anglo-Scottish War of 1650-52.
  7. +8
    27 July 2023 07: 40
    But if we had to choose only one place to which we can entrust our lives in a time of great danger one hundred percent, then it would, without a doubt, be Dunnottar Castle. No other Scottish castle can be compared with its feeling of absolute impregnability.

    As history shows, the "feeling of absolute impregnability" of this castle is nothing more than an illusion. The castle was constantly captured, sometimes twice a month, as in 1592.
  8. +9
    27 July 2023 07: 48
    The most impregnable fortress in Scotland was built.
    What kind of impregnable is it, if you yourself write that it was taken several times? Or did it become impregnable after the end of all hostilities in the UK?
    1. +9
      27 July 2023 08: 03
      The most impregnable fortress in Scotland is Edinburgh Castle. In its history, it has never been taken by storm, although it was besieged about thirty times.

      1. +3
        27 July 2023 09: 09
        The most impregnable fortress in Scotland is Edinburgh Castle.
        If I argue with you about this, I completely agree. smile
      2. +3
        27 July 2023 15: 00
        In its history, it has never been taken by storm, although it was besieged about thirty times.
        And not by assault? Even Ruvika writes that he was taken several times, however, without specifying exactly how.
  9. +4
    27 July 2023 08: 20
    Many thanks to Vyacheslav Olegovich for the article, good day comrades !! hi
  10. +7
    27 July 2023 08: 37
    This is what Dunnottar Castle looks like from the sea and at least a bird's eye view.
    1. 0
      22 October 2023 12: 54
      And at low tide
      ................................
  11. +5
    27 July 2023 09: 16
    Quote from Frettaskyrandi
    The most impregnable fortress in Scotland is Edinburgh Castle.

    I should have written "perhaps", because he seems so!
    1. +4
      27 July 2023 09: 25
      Why does it seem. They never took him by storm.
      1. +5
        27 July 2023 09: 36
        In some cases, it simply did not come to an assault, the garrison surrendered itself.
      2. +3
        27 July 2023 10: 34
        Quote from Frettaskyrandi
        Why does it seem. They never took him by storm.
        1. +7
          27 July 2023 10: 38
          Guys, this is not a good person. Enemy!
          1. +2
            27 July 2023 11: 07
            Guys, this is not a good person. Enemy!
            Seryoga, don't fuss!
  12. +3
    27 July 2023 09: 56
    People “want castles”

    YES! Exactly!
    "Castles and seals" - what else does a person need for happiness? drinks
    1. +1
      27 July 2023 10: 05
      "Castles and seals" - what else does a person need for happiness?
      Dogs!!!
      1. +8
        27 July 2023 10: 36
        Dogs!!!

        By the way, dogs are like people. There are decent and dishonorable, cowardly and selfless, brave. But in the soul they are always devoted to their person.
        I wonder if there were guard dogs in the fortresses? Or just hunting?
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          27 July 2023 10: 54
          I wonder if there were guard dogs in the fortresses? Or just hunting?
          Will the Neapolitan Mastiff suit you, Lyudmila Yakovlevna?
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            27 July 2023 11: 42
            Will the Neapolitan Mastiff suit you, Lyudmila Yakovlevna?

            In relation to the topic of the article, the Mastiff should be English.

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              27 July 2023 11: 52
              Their ancestor, all the same, is the same - Molossian dogs. However, I think, like the Spanish Alano.
              1. +3
                27 July 2023 12: 43
                Their ancestor, all the same, common - Molossian dogs

                At present, there are serious doubts about this version.
                Hancock, David (2001). The mastiffs: the big game hunters, their history, development & future.
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                  27 July 2023 13: 06
                  As far as I remember, Hancock is more focused on hunting breeds...
                  1. +3
                    27 July 2023 17: 41
                    Hancock is more focused on hunting breeds.

                    Its double namesake is oriented towards hunting breeds. A rare case, so they are constantly confused.
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                  27 July 2023 16: 32
                  Quote from Frettaskyrandi
                  At present, there are serious doubts about this version.
                  Hancock, David (2001). The mastiffs: the big game hunters, their history, development & future.

                  Enemy! Is there an answer???
        2. +3
          27 July 2023 14: 45
          I wonder if there were guard dogs in the fortresses?
          There were, they were released specially for the fortress gates, for the night. I won’t tell the breed and where it happened.
          1. +2
            27 July 2023 19: 26
            There were, they were released specially for the fortress gates, for the night. I won’t tell the breed

            This breed has been a Hovawart for more than seven centuries, rightfully considered one of the best breeds of guard and border dogs. My nickname and photo of the nickname itself is our Hovawart Richard, thirteen years old, a former member of our family - not a yard chain dog, but an equal member, this is how this breed perceives itself and its duties.
            The Hovawart is one of the oldest German dog breeds. The first mention of the breed is described in the German book "Der Schwabenspiege" published in 1274. The exceptional instinct, scent, innate sense of friend or foe, strength, power of dogs and their genetic predisposition to guard and protect their home and family, since the XNUMXth century, have made it possible to use them for guard duty in numerous fortresses, citadels, fortified areas and cities throughout the Middle Ages. The medieval chronicler Enguerrand de Monstrelet writes:
            Hovawarts were present in the garrisons during the defense of such large fortresses as Aigues-Mortes in Languedoc, Avignon, Carcassonne, Laon, Langres, La Rochelle, Poitou-Charente, Saint-Denis, Saint-Malo in Brittany, Mont-Saint-Michel, where from 1155 every evening they were released ashore to protect ships from pirates.

            Dogs ceased to be used for these purposes only in 1770 after a young officer walking along the coast was torn to pieces by them.
            1. +2
              27 July 2023 19: 51
              This breed has been a Hovawart for more than seven centuries, rightfully considered one of the best breeds of guard and border dogs.

              The modern Hovawart has only the name in common with medieval dogs. It is not even known for certain what they looked like, since no descriptions have been preserved. Most likely, this was the name of dogs of guard dogs of several breeds.
              And the current Hovawarts are a breed bred at the beginning of the XNUMXth century by crossing farm dogs, Newfoundlands, Leonbergers, German Shepherds and Kuvasses.
              1. +3
                27 July 2023 22: 22
                By the way, the fighting and pickling dogs of antiquity and the Middle Ages are an excellent topic for an article (articles)
                1. +2
                  27 July 2023 22: 38
                  Good evening, Denis! You rarely show up here. To be honest, very sorry. Recently, there has been more and more incompetence and cheap hype on the branch in a riotous color, and your publications and comments are not enough.
                  1. +5
                    27 July 2023 23: 01
                    Good evening,
                    Thank you, of course, but I'm a little surprised. I have always been moderately active, so to speak.
                    There are several reasons.
                    One of them, the historical branch, has largely exhausted itself - the holivars burned out, the authors retired.
                    I am currently writing a historical article for a scientifically peer-reviewed English-language journal. There novelty of the article is a key requirement. There will be a refusal - I will publish it here.
                    An article from the conditional cycle of cataphracts was written on the table - there are no illustrations for my reconstruction. An attempt to collaborate with artists did not lead to success. it’s probably easier to draw sketches yourself and give them to the neural network.
                    There are, let's say, the ideas of research "phalanx - how it works" there is a lot of controversy and on the mechanics of an equestrian collision.

                    By the way, a year ago there was a dispute-discussion on stones in the form of Boeotian helmets. I filmed some material in the Louvre and the Pearson Museum - I can give it to Vashchenko or Shpakovsky if they write on this topic. These are definitely not forging molds.

                    There are many photos from the Vienna Armory, the Paris Army Museum and the Stibbert Museum, but Shpakovsky already has it all. There is a photo of the castle of Ghent and materials on the Indians from the Antwerp Heritage Museum. If Vyacheslav Shpakovsky has a plug, he can contact

                    But in general, history is not up to people now - they would be alive and healthy.
                    1. +2
                      27 July 2023 23: 59
                      Quote: Engineer
                      One of them, the historical branch, has largely exhausted itself - the holivars burned out, the authors retired.

                      I wrote in the heat of a dispute that I would go to "History". But there is nowhere to go especially ....
              2. +1
                27 July 2023 23: 52
                The modern Hovawart probably only has the name in common with medieval dogs. It is not even known for certain what they looked like, since no descriptions have been preserved.

                A huge role in the reconstruction of the breed in the form in which we see it now, played by Bertram and Kurt Koenig in the early twentieth century. Father and son restored the famous breed in three stages, starting in 1915, by order of the Kaiserreich Zollgrenzschutz (ZGS) (lit. "Customs Border Guard". The final selection of the breed was completed in 1949. In 1955, the breed was officially recognized by the International Cynological Federation of the FCI - "FCI" In 1959, the Hovawart was officially recognized as a service breed, and in 1964 it received international recognition.
                According to the classification of the International Canine Federation FCI:
                hovawart - service dog breed of group 2 (Pinchers, schnauzers, molossians), sections 2 (Molossians), subsections 2.2 mountain, cattle and shepherd dogs)
                Breed identification number -190
      2. +6
        27 July 2023 10: 38
        Quote: 3x3zsave
        Dogs!!!

        Soon it will be about cats, and about dogs, and about the "castle". And all in one material. Already written and waiting in line.
        1. +7
          27 July 2023 11: 05
          Class!!! I will pour oil on the souls of all cat subjects of the "History" section
      3. +3
        27 July 2023 10: 53
        What's wrong?
        Quote: 3x3zsave
        doggie

        Quote: 3x3zsave
        doggie
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          27 July 2023 19: 56
          Quote: ArchiPhil
          What's wrong?
          Quote: 3x3zsave
          doggie

          Quote: 3x3zsave
          doggie

          So what's so good about it!!!
    2. +2
      28 July 2023 06: 06
      What are we still missing now?

      - Banks of invigorating and salty fish, mister corporal!
  13. +7
    27 July 2023 11: 11
    from the article, I counted 6 cases when an impregnable castle was nevertheless taken. Eltz in Germany and Lindos and Monolithos (these in Rhodes) have much less.
  14. +7
    27 July 2023 12: 26
    I read the article, comments, and just some kind of nostalgic feeling appeared ... It reminded me of the good old days, when we were all a few years younger and knew how to create a certain special atmosphere of such comfortable friendly communication in discussions. Now this feeling comes vanishingly rarely, although perhaps these are my personal "difficulties", I don't know.
    Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich. smile
    1. +4
      27 July 2023 12: 45
      It reminded me of the good old days when we were all a few years younger and were able to create in discussions a certain special atmosphere of a kind of comfortable friendly communication.
      This world is not getting better. And we are with him.
      1. +3
        27 July 2023 13: 02
        This world is not getting better. And we are with him.

        The world is not to blame.
        Even taking into account in the eternal principles of the mind of justice and humanity only favorable chances are invariably associated with them, following them gives great advantages, and avoiding them - grave consequences ...

        Man is a being that produces itself, its being and essence.
        1. +5
          27 July 2023 13: 22
          "Oh, my God!" - said the chicken joyfully, hatching into this best of all worlds
          according to Leibniz. “Fuck you, damn!” - said the same chicken, peeping back along
          Schopenhauer." (C)
          1. +5
            27 July 2023 13: 38
            You can imagine the wall clock, of course. The pendulum is a regulator: it restrains and regulates the fall of the weight of the clock; remove this regulator - the weight will quickly fall, the hands will spin chaotically around the dial, the hammer will ring for many hours at once, and without communication, the energy of the mechanism will be wasted aimlessly.
            Human existence is the same wall clock. Our clocks are running badly, the regulator of our lives is out of order; it is a cheap pendulum made in haste; The pendulum is there because we have matured to the realization of its necessity, but we have not yet been able to adjust the mechanism.
            1. +3
              27 July 2023 13: 44
              Let's adjust the mechanism, the "Peace of Half a Day" will come? By the way, I don't really like "The World of Half a Day" ...
              1. +3
                27 July 2023 17: 37
                Let's adjust the mechanism, the "Peace of Half a Day" will come?

                What will come - I do not presume to predict. Maybe Midday World, maybe Brave New World. Only strong doubts torment that this process is possible without "The End of Childhood".
                1. +1
                  27 July 2023 20: 07
                  "The End of Childhood"
                  Not Clark's best novel in my opinion. Situational - yes, "come, good uncles (predatory tomatoes) and rake up all the shit that we pooped here. But in fact, the sadness of a dying person about a failed era.
                  1. +2
                    27 July 2023 21: 17
                    I'm more attracted to Clark's philosophical side of his works. In this regard, "The End of Childhood" in some way echoes Teilhard's "The Phenomenon of Man".
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                      27 July 2023 21: 46
                      I have a beautifully published volume of Clark, bought a very long time ago, already here, in the suburbs (I could not pass by). In it, this volume, there is also "The End of Childhood".

                      I remembered:
                      "After all, today any child knows that the supermind is necessarily good!
                      “Supermind is supergood,” said Toivo.
                      - Well? Especially!
                      “No,” said Toivo. - No "especially". What is good we know, and even then not very firmly. But what is super-good ... "

                      No, not "Waves extinguish the wind."
                      I associate "Childhood's End", rather, with that part of "Lame Fate", which in its essence is "Ugly Swans".
                      And it's not very funny because the truth in a local period of time, included in the mosaic of the era, turns out to be its opposite.
                      1. +2
                        27 July 2023 22: 08
                        Toivo ended up killing Sikorski. That's why I don't like World of Half Day. Somewhere on the "Distant Rainbow" people decide for themselves who will live and who will die. And at the same time, one person, endowed with power, kills another person, only on suspicion.
                    2. +2
                      27 July 2023 21: 57
                      This philosophy is in no way consistent with the worlds of Gibson and Sterling, in which, in fact, we live.
                      1. +2
                        27 July 2023 22: 27
                        This philosophy is in no way consistent with the worlds of Gibson and Sterling, in which, in fact, we live.

                        Maybe that's why she attracts me. By the way, I would add Rucker, Hegel's great-great-grandson, to Gibson and Sterling.
                      2. +2
                        27 July 2023 22: 38
                        I have not read Rucker, but I remember as the founder.
                      3. +2
                        27 July 2023 22: 43
                        He co-wrote a lot with Sterling.
                      4. +1
                        27 July 2023 23: 01
                        Let's be honest: Sterling is a kind of cyberpunk, unlike Gibson. But they wrote a great steampunk novel!!! No one in the genre has beaten them yet. Except Zelazny.
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        2. +3
          27 July 2023 16: 52
          Quote from Frettaskyrandi
          Man is a being that produces itself, its being and essence.

          , but in essence, but VikNiK?
      2. +5
        27 July 2023 15: 14
        Quote: 3x3zsave
        This world is not getting better. And we are with him.

        The world is getting better. Generally. Although each individual individually may seem anything. I don’t want to be like the old grandfather from the joke, who was asked when life was better - under the tsar or under the communists.
        - Of course, with the king!
        - Why not?
        - I had a bolt with the king!
        The world is changing. While we were changing it, it became better - for us, but worse for those who came before us. Now we are gradually curtailing our vigorous activity, someone earlier, someone later, and other people are beginning to change the world. But they do it in their own way, already different from ours. That, in fact, is all.
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          27 July 2023 17: 18
          Quote: Trilobite Master
          The world is getting better.

          All doubt! How I lived and how my granddaughter lives - there is no comparison.
    2. +7
      27 July 2023 13: 03
      some nostalgic feeling appeared ... Reminded me of the good old days

      Misha, you are a poet, an exponent of the feelings and moods of many people!
      I had the same feelings yesterday, when, twisted by a magnetic storm, I dragged myself through the village. Opposite, three. Are you kidding! I thought. Even last year, these three obviously retired officers with graying temples proudly strode around the village, looking around the surroundings with kind, but eagle eyes from a height of no small stature - here they are, our support and protection!
      And yesterday I already stopped and felt my jaw drop. Picking it up, I doubted - are they? Entirely gray heads are drawn into lowered shoulders and as if height has decreased, something apologetic in the views ...
      Ah, time! What are you doing to us...
      It's time to cheer up - come! Straighten our backs, fire in our eyes! To throw sparks!
      1. +4
        27 July 2023 14: 01
        Misha, you are a poet, an exponent of the feelings and moods of many people!
        Michael, do you feel how the green bronze crumbles with a quiet rustle, changing to platinum?!)))
        1. +3
          27 July 2023 15: 17
          . Michael, do you feel how the green bronze crumbles with a quiet rustle, changing to platinum?!)))


          Here! Sparks of humor!
          Or it seemed ... Well, is it really a sad irony?
          So - you look at the ruins, which were once a viable architecture, among which people rushed about, without asking themselves empty questions, and longing creeps into the heart, giving rise to ghosts in the form of images of the departed.
          Is not a ghost a sublimation of the desire for eternal life?
        2. +5
          27 July 2023 15: 52
          No, I don't feel shit. But if so, then it's sad - I hoped that the bronze had not turned very green yet ... sad
      2. +5
        27 July 2023 15: 48
        Lyudmila Yakovlevna, we will no longer succeed in the volume in which we struck sparks in the past. Well, maybe life will force us, but this will only be the swan song of our existence, a catharsis before the final denouement, which will accelerate this denouement. smile
        The most significant difference in our outlook on life is that walking down the street, I notice not only my old friends - gray-haired, haggard, tired and restless, but also their children - strong, healthy thirty-year-old men and aunts, at the peak of activity, both physical and social. But most of all I like to look at the young, at the generation of my youngest son, who is now twenty. On their open and calm faces, on their joyful smiles. They look to the future calmly, without fear and uncertainty, they do not need to huddle in flocks in the evenings and wander the streets, warily looking for ways to get some money for beer or gin and tonic, as was the case all the time ten or fifteen years ago.
        To be clear, I live in an urban village, in the recent past, a former village, not far from St. Petersburg. An average such village, there are better, there are worse.
        They, the youth of today, of course, from my point of view, are also full of shortcomings, but I try to treat them condescendingly, without the creaky grumbling of a person who has survived his peak and has entered a time of slow and inevitable decay. smile
        And I have no desire to look at old pensioners. One upset! smile
        1. +5
          27 July 2023 16: 04
          Quote: Trilobite Master
          And I have no desire to look at old pensioners. One upset!

          I ended up feeling sad... hi
          1. +2
            27 July 2023 16: 18
            Quote: Mihaylov
            I ended up feeling sad...

            *Zenit is a champion????
  15. +3
    27 July 2023 12: 34
    Thank you for the article! I read it with great pleasure! A very interesting topic. Still, the interior decoration was presented in the photo ...
    1. +3
      27 July 2023 12: 50
      Still, the interior decoration was presented in the photo ...
      There, everyone backed up at the beginning of the eighteenth century. Too late to rush about, everything has been stolen before us ...
  16. +2
    27 July 2023 20: 41
    "Vorotnikova, Nedelin: Kremlins, fortresses and fortified monasteries of the Russian state of the XV-XVII centuries." Four volumes have already been published, with a fifth on the way. The illustrations and text are beyond praise. I highly recommend. I bought myself.
  17. 0
    28 July 2023 00: 25
    But it’s interesting, how long could Charles III have been able to sit in this castle if Wagner had stormed it? With all available weapons and shells from Shoigu.
    By the way, Venice turned out to be truly impregnable, for more than a thousand years and not very peaceful history, only under Napoleon the issue was resolved.
    Another "impregnable" was taken by the troops of Tamerlane, passing through Georgia. Also on a steep cliff for centuries, one of the Georgian tribes "kept the road", that is, robbed those passing by, and then took refuge in their fortification, and also threw all sorts of objects from above. Timur's avant-garde reported that a great and invincible warrior and ruler was coming, they should, they say, respectfully meet, and so on ... They did not believe it. They didn’t know, the poor fellows, that Tamerlane had mountain special forces - the Himalayan mountaineers, who, along the steep walls, that we should run along the embankment.
    No one survived, Iron Lame had his own principles here.