Test of the North Caucasus on the economic viability, or the Day chairs - in the evening money

The state program for the development of the North Caucasus is taking on new forms. If a couple of years ago we witnessed that the money in very substantial volumes went towards the North Caucasian regions and did not work everywhere in the right direction, now the Government decided to slow down and take a closer look at how effectively the allocated funds are spent. . Peered, of course, before, but now tried to look, as they say, with an armed eye.


And if we talk about the absolute figures of state financing of the North Caucasus Federal District (NCFD), consisting of 7 subjects of the Russian Federation, then after analyzing the results of studying the expenditure of funds, these figures decided, as they say now, to optimize in the most serious way. If in the 2011 year it was said that the North Caucasus Federal District will receive about 2,6 trillions of rubles from the state treasury over the next several years, then since the government rearranged the amount of state funding of the North Caucasus began to be called others. For example, about six months ago, the sum of 1,7 trillion rubles sounded, 424,2 billion of which was planned to allocate already before 2015 year. However, at a recent meeting of the Government of Russia it was stated that there were too many of these funds, and therefore a proposal was received to dwell on the amount of money. 235 billion rubles, but not before 2015, but before 2020. At the same time, the Presidential Plenipotentiary in the North Caucasus Federal District (he is also Deputy Prime Minister), Alexander Khloponin, said that the lion’s share of funding should be private capital. According to the plans of the Government of the Russian Federation and Khloponin himself, the North Caucasus should increase by 90% precisely on the basis of private capital. And the promised trillions from the budget can still reach the North Caucasus Federal District, but only after the 2020 year. Why exactly after 2020 of the year, and why “can walk, can not walk”? - none of the members of the Government of Russia didn’t explain at length, but we already and so perfectly understand the reason for this decision.

The fact is that the Russian North Caucasus is a very specific region. You can call it problematic, but at the same time such a definition is the mildest of those that could be picked up for the North Caucasus Federal District. There are plenty of problems here: from unemployment and a number of unresolved social issues to the often manifest shoots of extremism. However, many problems, unlike some other regions, have not been solved for many years. No - not that they would not be solved at all ... They try to decide, sort of, but only often either in a very peculiar way, or, resting their forehead against the wall. As a result, many regions of the North Caucasus Federal District, even with very impressive funding from the federal center, demonstrate, to put it mildly, not at all outstanding figures.

In addition, between individual North Caucasian subjects there often arise peculiar disputes in absentia about why Moscow allocates more to one and less to others. For example, after billions of dollars from the federal budget were spent on rebuilding the Chechen Republic: building housing, infrastructure facilities, creating new jobs, a certain “envy” arose from the neighboring regions, primarily Ingushetia and Dagestan. Like, why is it Kadyrov - everything, and we - nothing. And although the term “nothing” was clearly inappropriate, but in this way the leaders of the North Caucasus regions did not care much. Some North Caucasian publications made it clear in no uncertain terms that the federal center needs to move on to providing “more tangible” financial assistance to precisely those regions that these publications represent. In particular, the publication “Dagestan truth” in its economic section cites the following phrase:

"Hydropower (Dagestan - author's note), along with the agro-industrial complex, the tourism cluster and the education sector, have the right to expect financial assistance from the federal center today."


The issue describes in detail the commissioning of the Gotsatlinskaya HPP and other hydropower projects, which are already bringing substantial revenues to the local treasury.

Of course, there is nothing reprehensible in such very peculiar appeals for funding: as they say, people are cheering for their region. But only the federal center is not in a hurry to make new billions of transfers. Why? Because the economic efficiency of such centralized financing is often close to zero. Even substantial profits sometimes settle in the pockets of local officials with enviable regularity.

In particular, after a series of checks conducted by the Accounts Chamber of the Russian Federation, Dmitry Medvedev openly stated that a large percentage of funds allocated for the needs of the North Caucasus Federal District are simply being stolen. According to Medvedev, “the money simply does not reach people, and the question arises, where do they (means) go?” But Medvedev asked such a question, being the head of state. After the rhetorical questioning of Medvedev to his current post, Alexander Khloponin was appointed to solve numerous North Caucasian problems and answer the question of where the money goes ... In January, 2013 will be equal to exactly three years since Khloponin took the chair of the plenipotentiary President of the Russian Federation in the North Caucasus Federal District, but so far the results of his work are more than modest.

Of course, one cannot say that in just a couple of years under such specific working conditions, an official should certainly achieve outstanding results, but the fact that it is necessary to intensify development activities in the North Caucasus is an obvious fact. However, it is at such a moment that not the best news for the permanent representative Khloponin. The fact is that it is much easier to report on the success of a region (district) in the case when multi-billion funding comes from the federal center constantly and without any reservations on time and preventiveness. But now, according to the latest decisions of the Government, the funding of the NCFD is cut down to 2020 almost ten times! Obviously, this is for Khloponin, and for all the heads of the North Caucasus regions, the real test. Moscow in this case gives a very unambiguous message: if centralized investment in the North Caucasus Federal District in most cases does not lead to tangible positive advances, is it worth continuing to throw money into a black hole? ..

If so, then now Khloponin, Kadyrov, Magomedov, and other officials in the region will have to prove (if they are ready for this, of course) that the North Caucasus is not a black hole at all. And to prove this thesis will be oh how difficult ...
That is why Khloponin says that he is going to see 90% of the region’s development financing in the form of private capital. But words about the benefits of private capital do not always fit with the desires of private investors to invest in risky enterprises. While the North Caucasus projects, so far with all our desire, cannot be called stable; unfortunately. Regret in this regard becomes even greater, given the enormous potentials of the North Caucasus regions. Only one tourist area is worth: ski resorts, health centers, natural parks and much more.

By the way, the tourist cluster was singled out by the Government of Russia as a priority funding area. In other words, the Government is trying to fully finance the sphere that can attract both tourists and private business to the North Caucasus. Demonstrate, let's say, the Caucasus in all its glory - as much as possible today. Apparently, the idea is approximately the following: the federal budget carries out a kind of PR-action (in a positive sense) of the North-Caucasian Federal District, and on the basis of this, local authorities must do everything so that this PR-move does not work uselessly. One of the positive steps from such an action could be the creation of new jobs, because unemployment in the North Caucasus Federal District is the highest in Russia. If on average in Russia (according to reports of Deputy Prime Minister Olga Golodets) unemployment is about 5,2%, then in the North Caucasus Federal District it reaches 16-17% - by the most modest estimates.

Here are the Rosstat data on unemployment in the NCFD (for the 2012 autumn):
Dagestan - 11,6%;
Ingushetia - 47,3% (absolute anti-record);
Kabardino-Balkaria - 6,4%;
Karachay-Cherkess Republic - 8,5%;
North Ossetia - 5,6%;
Chechen Republic - 33%;
Stavropol Territory - 5,3%.

Alexander Khloponin was not slow in stating that he was going to bring the unemployment rate in the North Caucasus to at least 10% (on average) in the near future. I would like to believe that he has sound ideas in this regard.

It turns out that the North Caucasus decided to try to launch a free economic voyage with the minimum possible correction from the federal center. And if the NCFD passes this challenging exam, then large investments will not be long in coming. But in order to pass such an exam, the authorities of the regions of the North Caucasus Federal District will have to abandon their dependent position and roll up their sleeves for intensive work. Are they ready for this? - Big question.
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  1. Chamber No. 6 18 December 2012 08: 23 New
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    I’m touching reading the author!
    But North Caucasian projects, so far as they wish, cannot be called stable; unfortunately. Regret in this regard becomes even greater when one considers the enormous potentials of the North Caucasus regions. The tourism industry alone is worth what: ski resorts, health centers, natural parks and much more.
    And who in this area, sorry, will work ?! Representatives of the people, the bulk of whom have lived for centuries and still live in robberies, robberies and trade, considering themselves exceptional, in relation to the "infidels" ?!
    Here are the Rosstat data on unemployment in the NCFD (for the 2012 autumn):
    Ingushetia - 47,3% (absolute anti-record);
    Chechen Republic - 33%;

    That's right - as soon as people were deprived of the opportunity to run through the mountains with weapons, they immediately went down and turned out to be "unemployed"!
    "Creators", eprst! They want to "work", but they are not given!
    1. Alexander Romanov 18 December 2012 09: 00 New
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      Quote: Chamber No. 6
      They want to "work", but they are not given!

      And who they want to work with and what cars they want to ride. Sometimes people want to have everything at once.
      1. sv-sakh
        sv-sakh 18 December 2012 09: 11 New
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        and they have .. With our salaries with you.
        These regions live on state subsidies.
        And is it not for nothing ... the percentage of those who voted for Putin in these regions is the highest in the country and amounts to 99%.
        As if hinting too ...
        1. Lakkuchu
          Lakkuchu 18 December 2012 17: 43 New
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          Quote: sv-sakh
          And is it not for nothing ... the percentage of those who voted for Putin in these regions is the highest in the country and amounts to 99%

          You might think someone believes in these numbers.
    2. Karish
      Karish 18 December 2012 09: 03 New
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      Quote: Chamber No. 6
      Here are the Rosstat data on unemployment in the NCFD (for the 2012 autumn):
      Ingushetia - 47,3% (absolute anti-record);
      Chechen Republic - 33%;

      And due to what they live there and build 2-, 3-story houses? And they still need to be sponsored?
      1. Kaa
        Kaa 18 December 2012 11: 06 New
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        And they still need to be sponsored?

        Is the Gaza Strip not sponsored by Israel?
        “Israel will not transfer the taxes it collects for the Palestinian Authority this month. According to Finance Minister Yuval Steinitz, this is a retaliatory step towards a unilateral rally by Palestinians who have turned to the UN for recognition as an observer state. about the step agreed upon with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. "http://cursorinfo.co.il/news/novosti/2012/12/02/izrail-prekrasha
        et-sponsirovat-palestincev /
    3. Z.A.M. 18 December 2012 10: 37 New
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      Chamber No. 6
      Quote: Chamber No. 6
      Here are the Rosstat data on unemployment in the NCFD (for the 2012 autumn):
      Ingushetia - 47,3% (absolute anti-record);
      Chechen Republic - 33%;

      I read and thought about Chechnya ... After all, on TV they show so many new buildings there: houses, parks, fountains ... But who built all of them? Did they write out Turks for construction? ...
      Such a huge percentage of unemployment, with such an infusion of "targeted", federal money ...
      And to work at home ... so, why? There is Moscow, etc. I don’t want to go for a walk. In a prestigious university, again, easy! And there is some kind of public debt, and ... MONETARY.
      Well, there’s plenty of room - you want, to your homeland, "DEVELOP" the federal loot, if you want to stay in the "capitals", or else go somewhere along Rasei, bring your "orders" ...
      1. tverskoi77
        tverskoi77 18 December 2012 17: 46 New
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        I was also very surprised when I learned about the presence of migrant workers from Central Asia in the Caucasus republics. What kind of unemployment are we talking about?
    4. borisst64
      borisst64 18 December 2012 15: 55 New
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      Quote: Chamber No. 6
      And who in this area, sorry, will work ?!

      And who in this area, sorry, will rest ?! Personally, I never !! Maybe my children, years through ...... eleven?
      1. bask
        bask 18 December 2012 18: 53 New
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        Quote: borisst64
        And who in this area, sorry, will rest ?! Personally

        Moscow Ring Road 30 km from the road ... Grozny 2012 For that, our soldiers fought and died, ???????
        1. bask
          bask 18 December 2012 19: 10 New
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          MKAD 30 km from the road ... G
          Feel the difference. ?????
    5. ramzes1776 18 December 2012 21: 27 New
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      Quote: Chamber No. 6
      Ingushetia - 47,3% (absolute anti-record);
      Chechen Republic - 33%;

      And everyone lives purely on unemployment benefits, such as the poor. Judging by their houses, this is not the case.
    6. Nikita
      Nikita 18 December 2012 21: 35 New
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      I respect, too much will has been given to them, despite the fact that they are overwhelmingly fanatical Islamists (fanatics of war). We, the Slavs, are essentially peace and friendliness, a union of peoples ... However, what to do with them when they constantly organize gangs, shooting at our guys, when we are in the rear! in all cities (according to statistics, most crimes are due to them,), our sluts, and there are many of them, spread their legs in front of them, and psyx get trillion-dollar subsidies ... What is this happening, maybe the government is afraid of the Caucasian diasporas? We have nothing to fear from anyone! We have nuclear weapons, as well as America, and together we feel that we will not be able to do anything to each other, because someone will push the launch in a nuclear suitcase, then the whole world will be shocked. Therefore, no one will go to war with us as usual, either with robots, or with some kind of super missile defense they can come up with against our nuclear missiles, and it is unlikely that with all this, we are also developing and are able to develop good and high-quality latest technologies ... . Why are Americans left unpunished for touching the weak? because they have the same nuclei as we do. And the problem of America in general is that soon all the whites will rest, from the fact that they went crazy. Everything except the SLAVES!
  2. UPStoyan
    UPStoyan 18 December 2012 08: 25 New
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    Something about this is reasonable. How much can you feed for free, let them learn how to earn with their own labor.
    1. Karish
      Karish 18 December 2012 09: 04 New
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      Quote: UPStoyan
      How much can you feed for free, let them learn how to earn with their own labor

  3. predator.3
    predator.3 18 December 2012 08: 27 New
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    In fact, in Russia there are 89 regions (maybe a little less after the enlargement of a number of regions), and everyone should receive finance equally! and there must be total control over costs.
    1. Shuhrat turani
      Shuhrat turani 18 December 2012 08: 57 New
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      nefiga !!!!! Redistribution of funds is already unfair !!!! A large part of the income should remain in "their region" and be allocated for the benefit of taxpayers in this region. And then the resources from Siberia are pumped out, but there is no return !!!!

      ENOUGH TO FEED MOSCOW, THE CAUCASUS AND OTHERS, THE RICHES OF SIBERIA SHOULD WORK FOR THE GOOD OF SIBERIA!
      1. Alexander Romanov 18 December 2012 09: 53 New
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        Quote: Shuhrat Turani
        ENOUGH TO FEED MOSCOW, THE CAUCASUS AND OTHERS, THE RICHES OF SIBERIA SHOULD WORK FOR THE GOOD OF SIBERIA!

        What do you want to split Russia, well, catch the minus, it's a pity there is no suitable for you smalyika
        1. Joker 18 December 2012 13: 07 New
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          Sash, he says so correctly, the Siberian regions that earn a lot of money should give them to Moscow, which distributes them to all regions, while Siberia itself is allocated real pennies, everything is consumed by Moscow and the Caucasus, which themselves do not produce anything, well, oil in the Caucasus only there is, and ours is mine there, because the brave highlanders do not want to work. For me, it would be right for each region to feed itself and receive at least 80% of the money earned for development. And the rest of 20 can be given to regions where they do not produce anything. Remember Lipetsk, the city is not even a millionaire, I was there a year ago, so the city is unremarkable, houses are mostly five-story buildings almost everywhere, when I drove into the center I was generally surprised, usually in the center they build large buildings, and there they are all the same 5 floors. And all this despite the fact that in Lipetsk a huge plant NLMK which the region brings a lot of money. But all this money is going to Moscow, and pennies remain for the construction and improvement of the region, I consider it unfair. It’s fashionable for us to work as managers, but half of Moscow are managers, so let each region at least 5 years make money for itself and we will see that it’s better to be a manager or a hard worker at a metallurgical plant wink And then they are like leeches of hard workers stuck around and sit in a white stone, and someone plows all day in factories for a penny. Siberia is not a developed region at all, despite the fact that there is a huge amount of minerals mined there, but the people who do it must live in shit, because the Gaster in white stone and the managers in white stone have to go on good roads and every 5 years they need to expand the city , and then traffic jams too much. It’s time to put Moscow on dry rations, they don’t do a damn thing and let the paw go, otherwise all the trash goes there, all the rallies there and those who are dissatisfied live there. In Siberia, they would have to work, otherwise they would get caught up completely.
          1. donchepano
            donchepano 18 December 2012 13: 39 New
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            Quote: Joker
            It’s time to put Moscow on dry rations, they don’t do a damn thing and let the paw go, otherwise all the trash goes there, all the rallies there and those who are dissatisfied live there. In Siberia, they would have to work, otherwise they would get caught up completely.


            The capital in Barnaul)
            1. ramzes1776 18 December 2012 21: 35 New
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              The capital in Barnaul)

              Novosibirsk is a normal capital. Almost equidistant from all regions.
              1. YuDDP
                YuDDP 18 December 2012 22: 20 New
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                I vote for Krasnoyarsk. And after the flood he will remain intact ...
                1. donchepano
                  donchepano 19 December 2012 07: 17 New
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                  I vote for Krasnoyarsk. And after the flood he will remain intact ...

                  Yes. Any flood will freeze long before Krasnoyarsk from the cold ...
              2. Garrin 19 December 2012 06: 44 New
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                Novosibirsk is a normal capital. Almost equidistant from all regions.

                Dangerously. The entire budget will go to the "northern allowances" for deputies.
            2. vyatom
              vyatom 19 December 2012 14: 04 New
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              The capital in Peter.
          2. Shuhrat turani
            Shuhrat turani 18 December 2012 19: 43 New
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            Totally agree with you. I myself work in the oil and gas sector, "at the end of the world" can be said. The men I work with (normal Russian men) receive as much as the janitors in Moscow, but we work at -50 ° C, we extract black gold, and even there is no money to solve housing problems ... Think about what they’re going to money, which were supposed to be our earnings.
        2. mda
          mda 18 December 2012 15: 18 New
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          , sorry there is no suitable for you smalyika

          Yes! There he is fool
      2. thatupac
        thatupac 18 December 2012 11: 44 New
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        In Siberia, many people think so. In the Krasnoyarsk Territory, there are also many large enterprises, but we live worse than the cities of central Russia. About St. Petersburg and Maskvabad generally keep quiet.
        1. vyatom
          vyatom 19 December 2012 14: 06 New
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          All questions to Putin. Putin is the guarantor of stability.
      3. evgenm55 18 December 2012 13: 52 New
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        What are you talking about? You are telling the truth. And where is the split in Russia? Due to the fact that the Caucasus will earn loot for itself, and not live on pensions, subsidies, taxes, incomes of other regions? Some kind of shit ... And if making money for the region by the region itself leads to a split — Putin built a good state. But what about the power vertical? A PLUS
        1. Felix200970
          Felix200970 18 December 2012 21: 11 New
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          What are you talking about? You are telling the truth. And where does the schism in Russia have to do with it?

          Correctly minus. In Ukraine, too, they started from this in the late 80s of the last century. "... Why do we need Russia and 13 more sisters. Why should we feed them? ...." The song is old and familiar to the disgrace. They begin to howl at the suggestion of local princes because of their desire to “steer” without stopping shouts from above (they will not shout to anyone as they think). In a successful scenario without a lot of idiots blood comes UNBEATABLE. Then comes the female genital organ of five letters: to choose from - either an eye (with a soft sign) or an asshole, but always through 2P. Why talk - everyone survived the 90s
          1. dr.barhan
            dr.barhan 18 December 2012 21: 35 New
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            I agree! Was the USSR - so this is one big complex system! Now each republic has broken up and there’s no one left with anything ... It’s the same as sharing an apartment by room: to whom is the bedroom, to whom is the kitchen, to the entrance, and to whom and the toilet - everything is normal together, and individually - hell knows what to do with such good ... And now - you can split (fools will go out) - and then how to live with one toilet when you want to eat, but the refrigerator in the kitchen remains ... Here you have independence! Brothers are Slavs from one family, but we live in different countries and visit relatives with visas ... Yes, they also brainwash - some even try to prove who is better - Russians, Belarusians or Ukrainians ... But we all are just divided by a fence !
          2. Shuhrat turani
            Shuhrat turani 19 December 2012 12: 52 New
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            And what kind of bumps will Siberia develop if Siberian revenues go to the Center and the Caucasus? How to keep the population in Siberia if it becomes more difficult to survive every year here?
            WE WILL NOT HOLD SIBERIA - MOSCOW IMPRESSES, FOR IT AND ALL RUSSIA,
      4. vlbelugin 18 December 2012 17: 28 New
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        Russia's wealth with Siberia is growing. Maybe not verbatim, but it was correctly said.
  4. alex352006 18 December 2012 08: 32 New
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    I don’t know, I live in Pyatigorsk myself. Making these republics work will be difficult.
    1. UPStoyan
      UPStoyan 18 December 2012 08: 39 New
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      They do not want to work. So let the paw
    2. klimpopov 18 December 2012 10: 00 New
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      I live in Nevinnomyssk myself, in my opinion it is impossible to get them to work, look at tourism in the KCR, well, it’s like laughing, very often you hear something like coming from locals in Dombay ... Although they managed it somehow in the Union ...
      1. donchepano
        donchepano 18 December 2012 10: 22 New
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        Good afternoon Klim. Have you recently made a fuss about the murder of a young guy Naumenko by the Akayev brothers and against the lawlessness of the guests?
        1. klimpopov 18 December 2012 11: 44 New
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          It was the case, on Saturday the next rally, the police will get a lot of people going out, but I think it will cost peacefully ... Well, I hope at least ... But the “guests” simply got too tired, there’s no strength anymore if the authorities don’t even start patrolling drive out the streets, the massacre will begin ...
  5. Tatarus 18 December 2012 08: 47 New
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    That is why Khloponin says that he is going to see 90% of the financing for the development of the region in the form of private capital.
    So let the leaders of the republics annoy the diasporas about the return of capital to their small homeland. Because all these injections poured into the community of Caucasian diasporas and scrolled in semi-legal and illegal patterns. Now let their land be unfastened. So they will appear 90% of private capital. (PERSONAL OPINION)
    1. alex352006 18 December 2012 09: 07 New
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      Khloponin comes here only to devour vodka holidays.
      You’ll drive through the city of figs, they’ll block everything.
    2. paul33
      paul33 18 December 2012 09: 29 New
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      if you don’t wait, they’ll rather buy new monkeys at a frantic price than “unfasten their share of their land”
      1. thatupac
        thatupac 18 December 2012 11: 45 New
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        Kerimov is a Moscow businessman-oligarch with Dagestan roots. Anji is a typical Muscovabad club, that is, a club from Moscow with a Caucasian tinge. Everything is normal. Karimov even sponsors Perm Makar.
    3. Garrin 18 December 2012 18: 41 New
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      That is why Khloponin says that he is going to see 90% of the financing for the development of the region in the form of private capital.

      So it is. Cars are stolen in Moscow, but sold at home. Everything is on stream.
  6. tolan_petrovich 18 December 2012 08: 51 New
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    I also think that they are unlikely to work, max to trade, and than if not to produce!
  7. donchepano
    donchepano 18 December 2012 08: 53 New
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    They showed on television a program where a lonely young woman in Altai seems to have used fences and sheds with two young children to heat her house. Journalists who came to cover the trouble women sawed and chopped wood for her without getting help from the administration of the village who cried that they themselves do not have enough firewood and coal !!!
    This is what I mean - half of Russia lives without gas and amenities in ancient wooden houses. The temperature in winter reaches - 40-50
    And in Chechnya, 2x 3-storey villas and gas throughout the entire Sevkavkaz has long been everywhere.
    To whom to help and whom to develop?
    1. Alexander Romanov 18 December 2012 09: 03 New
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      Quote: donchepano
      Journalists who came to cover the trouble women sawed and chopped wood for her without getting help from the administration of the village who cried that they themselves do not have enough firewood and coal !!!

      This situation is almost everywhere, the administration has money to buy new cruisers in exchange for two-year-old cars, but as a rule there is no money to help large families. Although not only large families, it’s about simple help for the person from the state
  8. Strashila 18 December 2012 08: 56 New
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    The numbers are self-explanatory ... Christians are working hard, Muslims like to work in the bastard .. And it's not the lack of jobs ... they themselves destroyed them. Yes, so much dough ... it’s better to invest in Siberia .. even though the return was
    1. Ghenxnumx 18 December 2012 10: 19 New
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      And the Far East with the North do not forget
  9. SmacXnumx 18 December 2012 08: 56 New
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    I rested in Pyatigorsk twice, the places are very beautiful, but the local population is so lazy that you wonder
    1. alex352006 18 December 2012 09: 58 New
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      I rested in Pyatigorsk twice, the places are very beautiful, but the local population is so lazy that you wonder

      when the Stavropol Territory and the Kuban fed the whole union with bread, inappropriately scratching everyone in one comb.
      1. donchepano
        donchepano 18 December 2012 10: 18 New
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        when the Stavropol Territory and the Kuban fed the whole union with bread, inappropriately scratching everyone in one comb.



        Yes, it still feeds and will feed if only soon the uncontrolled herds of cattle and small cattle of newly settled people do not experience crops. By the way, Alex, how are things with Oksana Bondareva of your neighbor?
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          By the way, Alex, how are things with Oksana Bondareva of your neighbor?

          It depends on what you mean))), I personally know 3)))
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            donchepano 18 December 2012 13: 06 New
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            Cavminvody Oksana Volvo. it's near you. HER beat some Hakobyan
            1. alex352006 18 December 2012 13: 46 New
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              Cavminvody Oksana Volvo. it's near you. HER beat some Hakobyan

              while, as far as I know, an investigation is underway on this case ..... but you yourself understand ...
              1. donchepano
                donchepano 18 December 2012 14: 09 New
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                while, as far as I know, an investigation is underway on this case ..... but you yourself understand ...


                I look in the internet - the girl is fearless! The real Joan of Arc.
                she would certainly need help
                1. alex352006 18 December 2012 14: 17 New
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                  you know, now such fermentation is going on-hell will break his leg.
                  the Russians are really leaving, with the words "they sold us."
                  I have nowhere to go, I will stand to the last.
                  1. donchepano
                    donchepano 18 December 2012 18: 36 New
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                    I have nowhere to go, I will stand to the last.


                    Hold on. Everything will be fine. Will be adjusted.
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                      Thank you, only on this and on our own strength we hope
  10. Nechai
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    Making these republics work will be difficult.

    Given all the power of the dough, is it even possible? In the Soviet Union, equality of opportunity and the principle of justice were declared. Having beaten out this basis, they got a return to the Middle Ages and religious obscurantism. So far, in practice, proud dzhigits do not realize that the possibility of their very lives is determined by honest work, of course, with fair pay, and no success can be seen in this disastrous business. All other methods of raising funds must inexorably lead to impoverishment of the clan and a reduction in both the number and life expectancy in it. I DO NOT CONSIDER all Caucasians as asocial, but normal people of these nationalities, now pressured by more arrogant, frostbitten financially successful marginal individuals. Yes, in fact, only one comparison of the standard of living of an honest worker, his family and criminal scumbag with his gang, makes young people make the appropriate choice. Not in favor of public utility.
  11. Lech e-mine
    Lech e-mine 18 December 2012 08: 59 New
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    In KREMLIN, they must finally realize that their MAJOR OBJECTIVE is to help just such disadvantaged people in our country (not just giving out money for a HALYAVA, but giving a person the opportunity to work and earn money in their HONEST WAY)
  12. Nikaviz 18 December 2012 09: 03 New
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    Who saw them working .... !!!! ??? The meaning of life ... seize, take away, steal, so live freebies !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! bully
    1. Soldier
      Soldier 18 December 2012 09: 19 New
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      The war seems to be over, but whatever Kadyrov says, I still don’t trust the Vainakhs. Or I just didn’t forget ... And if they don’t pay, is it war again? They only understand the FORCE. I would really like to be mistaken, but ....
      1. thatupac
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        If they are not paid, then the war will be 100%. They will begin there to build their Islamic Jamaat on the basis of Dagestan, Ingushetia and Chechnya. And then o5 to calm them down. In fact, the Caucasus is Afghanistan with the Taliban in miniature. So the choice here is not great: either pour money there, or fight. There is no other option.
        1. koosss 18 December 2012 20: 36 New
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          So the choice here is not great: either pour money there, or fight. There is no other option

          Comrade Stalin coped with the problem of the Caucasus perfectly .. by the method of force but without war. Caucasus - the All-Union health resort was and everything was fine)
  13. demon ada
    demon ada 18 December 2012 09: 03 New
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    there is a problem - it must be solved
    since they (the North Caucasus) are fighting so well
    form peacekeeping forces from their representatives (Chechnya, Dagestan) and send them to troubled regions (Syria, Africa, etc.).
    and pluck in plenty and the interests of Russia are distant.
    1. donchepano
      donchepano 18 December 2012 09: 45 New
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      and pluck in plenty and the interests of Russia are distant.


      And the dough itself will earn the usual method
    2. old rocket man 18 December 2012 09: 54 New
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      Quote: demon ada
      and pluck in plenty and the interests of Russia are distant

      Yeah, and dishonored at the end, undermine Russia's not so high authority abroad.
      They won’t hold back, and there they will take bribes and rob. It’s time to get his head out of the sand and look the truth in the eyes — the whole country, and the Caucasus in particular, LIVES UNDERSTANDING, NOT BETTER BEST.- top and full width, do not wait for the crime, but look for it, everyone should answer, and confirm with documents where he got his house, car, tsatski and grandmothers, not accept references to grandmother’s inheritance, dig to the third kneeotherwise, do not put things in order Otherwise, laughter strangles me, the cops complain about low salaries and are dissected by land rovers and cruisers, and moreover, they are all honest, I’m not talking about officials anymore, it’s a complete mess.
      Remember the saying: "If you are so honest, then why not poor?"
      1. evgenm55 18 December 2012 14: 03 New
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        Briefly, clearly, correctly. And no dick to be afraid of anyone. Not so long ago the whole Caucasus lived like the whole Union. There were, of course, differences, but not so terrifying. We just need political will, support from the people and forces that are capable of any moment rebelled counter to demolish the head. Everything is new, well-forgotten old. And Joseph Vissarionovich knew what and how to do.
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    3. Ghenxnumx 18 December 2012 10: 25 New
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      Well, of course, only this was not enough ...
      And their behavior and cruelty in the treatment of prisoners, so unusual for us, will be a shameful spot on the entire Russian-speaking population of Russia.
  14. vorobey 18 December 2012 09: 08 New
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    Alexey, the article I think will cause a lively discussion,

    Of course, there are progress in the positive direction. I see this myself because sometimes I have to work with Dagestan and Chechnya and Ossetia. the desire is. Maybe not all representatives of nationalities living there, but here are my personal observations. The demand for equipment from Chechnya has grown, but there is one important nuance - the lack of qualified engineering personnel, and to be honest when they invite me to go on a hike, to teach, even under my personal responsibility, I openly strive. I’m talking about this directly since I got drunk already in the life of adventure, including in Grozny, even before the start of the war. Why am I doing this? And besides, no production where there are not enough professionals will successfully and dynamically develop. By the way, it is easier to solve issues with Chechens even than with some other nationalities. These are my observations, the main thing is to keep my word, but the ear itself goes on.
    1. Leisure 18 December 2012 11: 10 New
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      I had a somewhat similar situation. They suggested to come, as you said, to prompt, to teach how to work on the equipment supplied by us. I refused, was already there at the end of '95.
  15. Garrin 18 December 2012 09: 22 New
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    Recently, an article caught my eye, it wrote about how the heads of administrations in Dagestan from the budget money (stolen) finance the militants. Not of their own free will, of course, there is blackmail and direct threats, but the fact remains. So what are we talking about?
    1. His
      His 18 December 2012 15: 35 New
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      At the moment, the main financing of the gang underground comes from local corrupt officials and businessmen tearing the federal budget. Increasing allocations, we are evading the supply of fighters - this is a fact.
  16. rennim 18 December 2012 09: 25 New
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    I look at one of the gadgets ... it is written. Developed in Russia. Collected in China. Why in China .... Let them collect in Chechnya and Ingushetia ... Something.
    1. rapid1934 18 December 2012 10: 29 New
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      Quote: rennim

      I look at one of the gadgets ... it is written. Developed in Russia. Collected in China. Why in China .... Let them collect in Chechnya and Ingushetia ... Something.

      Are you an alien? They are not Chinese and do not want to and will not work.
    2. master_rem 18 December 2012 13: 31 New
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      Do you propose to populate the Caucasus with the Chinese?good
      1. donchepano
        donchepano 19 December 2012 08: 51 New
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        Do you propose to populate the Caucasus with the Chinese?

        Only please the Chinese do not say anything about your idea)
  17. Averias 18 December 2012 09: 33 New
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    To the question in the article - And where does the budget money go. And you look at what cars the "glorious and poor" sons of the North Caucasus drive around Moscow. Or google Kadyrov’s car fleet. The answer is obvious.
  18. baltika-18 18 December 2012 09: 56 New
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    Yes, I haven’t heard anything new in the article. About the development of tourism for about 8 years they already say what's the point. On attracting private investment, it’s generally said throughout the country that the president’s and prime minister’s favorite topic is what kind of fool would invest there if they shoot and blow . The order there can be brought only by “hot iron.” For example, one of the family went to bandit, the whole family in the Far North, according to the law of the mountains, they knock out a wedge with a wedge.
    1. antiaircrafter 18 December 2012 12: 17 New
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      the whole family to the Far North

      why the hell are they needed there?
      deprivation of social benefits to all - pensions, free medical benefits and education.
      1. baltika-18 18 December 2012 14: 11 New
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        deprivation of social benefits to all - pensions, free medical benefits and education.

        It is also an option.
  19. predator.3
    predator.3 18 December 2012 10: 02 New
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    In the series "Gangster Petersburg", Lev Borisov (Antibiotic) said this phrase: " They got off the donkeys, and immediately give them Mercedes ! "in these words their whole essence.
  20. Penzuck 18 December 2012 10: 03 New
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    The main revenues to the federal budget are taxes.
    The main share of taxes to the budget of the Russian Federation is provided by production (more precisely, the production and sale of oil).
    90% is withdrawn from the regions (Whch of the Moscow Region) settles in Moscow. Hence the huge s \ n and prices. 10% is left to the regions. If they don’t have enough money, the Federal Center adds to the budget. 90% settles in the regional center. villages and villages do not receive anything. And when you consider that most of the enterprises either do not work or belong to the Citizens of Moscow, the result. We will never get financing from nowhere unless we work out ourselves.
  21. anfreezer 18 December 2012 10: 17 New
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    ..the president makes it clear that we do not have the ability to swing too long, sets the task to accelerate: starting next year, we should see real results, projects should already be really implemented on the territory. (Khloponin, November 2010) Blah blah blah .... acceleration, innovation, investment .. and things are still there .. The North Caucasus is not a black hole at all. And to prove this thesis will be oh how difficult... Prove, prove that South Ossetia and Abkhazia were not in vain put to allowance .. To work, it is not lezginka to dance to work. But it will be a mistake to blame Caucasians for anything. There is nothing demonic in them. People are like people. If there is food - they fly in, peck. No food - fly away. If scared, they are afraid. Not scary - they scare themselves. It is necessary to blame the state and its policy towards the Caucasus (or rather the absence of any sound and long-term policy). Everything is by chance, the main thing is that the Caucasus is Russian, that Chechnya creates the illusion of stability in the region, uh-gay .. illusionists .... la.
  22. fenix57
    fenix57 18 December 2012 10: 30 New
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    And what, in other regions there are less problems? And the prime minister surprises: "... the funds simply do not reach people ... where they go ..." - it’s hard to guess, right? hi
  23. Thunderbolt 18 December 2012 10: 33 New
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    against the backdrop of crumbling regions where "the people will endure everything" - The freezing of the Caucasian republics with a stream of free money looks STRANGE.
  24. webdog
    webdog 18 December 2012 10: 53 New
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    To end the war, Putin resolved this issue economically-clan.
    He raised one clan and financed it (Kadyrov).
    Kadyrov, respectively, crushed under himself all who could. Destroyed the rest. The bandits killed each other. Kadyrov began to treat the region as his own. He was paid a lot of money with the budget, he considered them also his property and tribute ...
    but Kadyrov is not a strategist. he won the battle, but lost the war)))
    Now that he has quarreled with all the clans, he must not go back to the mountains. they will not accept him. now Putin clearly made it clear to him that the hook is swallowed rather deeply and Kadyrov has no way back, only to be in the service of Russia, otherwise he will be banged.
    now he does not set conditions, but they dictate them ...
    and there is no war, one leader (controlled) and will give money for the most necessary as in all regions)))
    No one will say that Putin is an unwise person, he is a strategist, not a tactician.
    many behind tactical losses do not see a strategic victory. she is more important.
    I think so.
    1. baltika-18 18 December 2012 11: 20 New
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      Quote: webdog
      No one will say that Putin is an unwise person, he is a strategist, not a tactician.
      many behind tactical losses do not see a strategic victory. she is more important.
      I think so.

      You are right, of course. But the whole question is what kind of strategy it is. Putin’s entire strategy is based on one thing, to keep the country in balance, not to explode. For the first 3-4 years, this was true, but it cannot go on indefinitely. The ultimate goal it’s not clear and unknown for one reason, it simply doesn’t exist. He doesn’t know where to direct the country, what to create. The system was not created by us, he only improves it, doesn’t change much, but the essence doesn’t change. Apparently he’s aware that there’s a deadlock ahead, hence the throwing. But changing the system is not enough bridges, and even changing the system ambitsii.Ved you recognize that 12 years of doing things are not as they should, priznaosh their oshibki.Tak that its strategy is the absence of any strategy.
      1. webdog
        webdog 18 December 2012 11: 55 New
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        baltika-18, where did you get the idea that no one knows where to move? by what criteria did they calculate?
        simple example from history:
        when the German troops were already pulling up to our borders and it was clear (to the General Staff) that Hitler would attack, at that very moment Stalin ordered that a huge number of freight trains with bread be sent to Germany for the "friendly" Wehrmacht.
        everyone thought - what’s the matter, doesn’t Stalin a moron understand what creates an excellent food base for the enemy?
        and it was a matter of strategy. Stalin was able to delay the advance of the Wehrmacht troops to our borders, filling all the sorting railways with his goods and bread.
        in this way 3 weeks of time were won, which later were very necessary in strengthening and organizing the defense of Moscow.
        and you say, where is Putin’s logic?
        I do not make Putin a panacea, but I see his real affairs.
        just take and study statistics, this is a great science)))) compare 2004 and 2011. The result is huge. Is that what happened on its own? by itself only musov appears in the apartment)))
        we can just not see much. And we see only what local managers do. So they are leading the country nowhere ...
        I hope that many are transplanted now ...
        I think so.
        1. Misantrop
          Misantrop 18 December 2012 12: 00 New
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          Quote: webdog
          I hope that many are transplanted now ...

          If they put me in prison (for REAL affairs, and not like Tymoshenko - hell’s sitting, he knows for what, although three real life thrills are enough for her real "arts"), I’ll be VERY surprised and delighted at the current okoloputinsky thieves
        2. Igor
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          Quote: webdog
          Does Stalin a moron and do not understand that he creates an excellent food base for the enemy?
          and it was a matter of strategy. Stalin was able to delay the advance of the Wehrmacht troops to our borders, filling all the sorting railways with his goods and bread.
          in this way 3 weeks of time were won, which later were very necessary in strengthening and organizing the defense of Moscow


          Ahahaha !!! Instead of organized defense, he arranged for the complete demolition of the Soviet army, a languid strategist laughing
          1. Alexander
            Alexander 18 December 2012 18: 22 New
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            Did Stalin invent hard-to-control tank mechanized corps, inconvenient control of aircraft, etc.? The generals are responsible for such shoals, not Stalin. If it weren’t for him, you don’t even know what the t-34 is! It was Stalin who approved his development when all the generals were against it! This is the same story with the operation of Bagration, and in general there were a lot of such moments. So think what you write, Igor.
        3. baltika-18 18 December 2012 12: 44 New
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          Quote: webdog
          , where did you get that no one knows where to move? by what criteria did they calculate?
          simple example from history:
          when the German troops were already pulling up to our borders and it was clear (to the General Staff) that Hitler would attack, at that very moment Stalin ordered that a huge number of freight trains with bread be sent to Germany for the "friendly" Wehrmacht.

          The example of Stalin was unsuccessful, Stalin brilliantly predicted the situation, and he had an ultimate goal, an idea that he followed rigorously all his time in power, and which the people knew and supported. Please hear the goals that Putin has, I don’t have something I know.
          1. evgenm55 18 December 2012 14: 23 New
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            Even two hands are FOR.
        4. baltika-18 18 December 2012 13: 22 New
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          Quote: webdog
          we can just not see much. And we see only what local managers do. So they are leading the country nowhere ...
          I hope that many are transplanted now ...
          I think so.

          You’re an idealist who saw salvation in Putin’s face. I understand that he looks more attractive against the rest. But let's think about it. Migration problem: there is more than one year, strong indignation has begun in society, movement has begun. Problem of the North Caucasus, indignation has begun, movement has begun Reforms of the army, the same thing. Reform of education, indignation, there is no answer. He is not the master here, there are strict limits, you can’t go beyond them, there is no room for maneuver, because this is the basis of personality formation. Reform of medicine, here is a field for maneuver abandoned but the goal is a clear reduction in free services, an increase in paid services. The fight against corruption, the same scheme. Indignation, the movement has begun. As we noticed there is movement everywhere, the characteristic of which is running in place, or the swing of a pendulum. This is consistent with keeping the system in equilibrium. Current the situation in the country is beneficial to the whole world, including Putin. The world economy receives resources and a sales market that is completely predictable, Putin supports this state with his power and his maneuvers. In principle, he probably needs this.
        5. evgenm55 18 December 2012 14: 18 New
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          Is this from where such nonsense about trains? About clogged stations? Read Zhukov, Karpov, History of the Second World War - all trains went according to the schedule approved by the agreement several years ago. And they couldn’t affect the battle for Moscow.
        6. koosss 18 December 2012 20: 44 New
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          I hope that many are transplanted now ...

          according to Serdyukov, for example, it will be seen .. he deserved a landing here and see
        7. Antistaks
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          Now it’s clear who voted for him - no, I won’t write, otherwise only obscene words are typed on the clave. Although it is clear from COMMODITY TRAINS this is the people from the clan - ANTI-MILITARY CASETS OF THE MITANAN BROWNERS.
          Compared 2004 and 2011. In Rostov, on the site of the stadium factories and military school are SHOPPING CENTERS. Oh, I forgot - at the place of the shooting range where I shot at the CCM also a shopping center.
          And an unemployed shopping center is a mockery.
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      webdog,
      I agree with you! I just feel that I have to explain to Kadyrov how to maintain and develop the region for a very long time!
      Well, what kind of tourism can there be !? Who will go then?
      I personally will not go. And of my acquaintances no one wants to go there!
      Now they really need to try to make people feel safe on vacation! And the culture of communication comes sooooo easy and soon!
      1. webdog
        webdog 18 December 2012 12: 00 New
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        sergo0000, I hope that our "learned" to explain.
        explain in such a way that everything will be very clear, and judging by the recent actions, they have already explained.
        otherwise, a cry and howl from Kadyrov’s side would immediately begin. And he sits and keeps silent in a rag ...
        he thought he became a real lion ...
        he became a lion, but he’s only sitting on a strong chain and will growl only when he’s allowed.
        I think so.
      2. Misantrop
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        Well, what kind of tourism can there be !? Who will go then?

        Have you heard about the African safari? wink Here's something like this: wealthy retirees from serious structures with local guides to problem areas laughing
        1. sergo0000 18 December 2012 13: 03 New
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          Misantrop,
          webdog,
          If everything was so easy for men. But here’s what I’m interested in: why they work and work well in our Khanty-Mansiysk okrug! Even in the oil industry in frost and mosquitoes in the summer, but they don’t want to do it in their own country !?
          Or maybe they don’t give normal work and earn money ?!
          The mentality of the community I will tell you a strong thing!
          I really know a lot of decent and working Dagestanis.
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            webdog 18 December 2012 13: 24 New
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            everywhere there are both normal men and moral freaks.
            it’s just that their concentration is somewhere less, and somewhere more.
            nothing to do with the nation here.
            it is a fact.
            and a lot depends on upbringing ...
    3. evgenm55 18 December 2012 14: 22 New
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      Oh, what a strategist he is - the whole sensible country feels on itself. Especially against the background of the Serdyukov’s case, this is the strategy ... And if there is no Kadyrov tomorrow, he will die, they will be killed, etc. Then what? A new strategy to invent and again billions of people's money for the implementation of "strategic plans to throw"?
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    I know a lot of Caucasians, I haven’t seen lazy people among them. And on the account of “parasites”, in our country half of the regions, at least, are parasites of the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Area.
    I'm tired of this demonization of Caucasians. Firstly - this is all television crap, and secondly, besides our enemies this crap is not beneficial to anyone.
    And for that matter, since we are so scrupulous in terms of “whose money”, I’ll tell you whose exclusively Cossack So far, Russia lives off the resources it produces in Siberia. And Siberia is joined by Cossacks.
    And I can, as a descendant of the Cossacks, also tell everyone that "my loot, and you are all parasites"
    1. vorobey 18 December 2012 11: 37 New
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      And I can, like a descendant of the Cossacks, also tell everyone that "my loot, and you are all parasites


      Magadan put a plus, but on the hill from the Kuban get a hunt?
      It feeds Siberia Kuban, Rostov, Volgograd. Voronezh. So you're not quite right.
      1. uait
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        And the Institute of Heat Engineering helps them - Topol and much more
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        My distant ancestors from your area, harsh people, they said were wink So no, reluctance wink
        Just enough here who feeds whom. There are a lot of free parasite regions with the Russian population and there is no need to divide them again into the Caucasus and non-Caucasus. I have a bunch of Caucasians friends, the most reliable friends, by the way.
    2. Misantrop
      Misantrop 18 December 2012 12: 08 New
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      this demonization of Caucasians

      What are you talking about, dear? What demonization? A demon is one with which it is almost impossible to fight due to its combat and other characteristics. And those whom it is FORBIDDEN to touch by law and power are not demons, but something like medical leeches. wink
  26. Septugian
    Septugian 18 December 2012 11: 20 New
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    This is the point of development of the region, this is the real tribute that Russia pays! When all honestly admit, then things can change, and as long as the bureaucrats are welded from these flows, everything will be like that: Allah give money! And we know Allah , sits in the Kremlin, speaks and speaks, and everything is only worse and worse!
    1. thatupac
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      Do not want to pay tribute, get ready for war. Are you going to fight with them in their mountains?
      1. webdog
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        thatupac, everyone who could run through the mountains, Kadyrov had already shot or taken to his service ...
        who will run in the mountains? Kadyrov? he is no longer entitled by status, and lazy ...
        he will not let strangers to himself, and if they come, his militias will also deal with them)))
        so that there will be no war.
        just Kadyrov will do as he is told.
        America lost the war for the Caucasus that's for sure.
        I think so.
        1. alex352006 18 December 2012 12: 33 New
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          who will run in the mountains? Kadyrov?

          Do not forget Dear that besides Kadyrov there is also Kabarda, Dagestan, Karachay-Cherkessia and Ingushetia. who are also not averse to bite off a tidbit.
          And oddly enough, they also live in the mountains.
      2. Septugian
        Septugian 18 December 2012 13: 13 New
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        I will not be in the first!
      3. Misantrop
        Misantrop 18 December 2012 13: 28 New
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        Now I’m already a little old for this (and health in the North remains), but my younger brother was doing this in the mountains of the Caucasus for 8 years. Pretty successful, by the way. The officer groups of the GRU CH acted there quite effectively when they were not held by their pants
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        There will be those who will be.
  27. Shkodnik65 18 December 2012 11: 52 New
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    The fact that Russia feeds the Caucasus is clear to everyone, but it cannot be said that ALL residents of the Caucasus are loafers, parasites, thieves, and generally bastards. I also have experience in communication. Take General Yevkurov, he’s one of the organizers of The Cast to Pristina. Man. And there are many. But you must admit - the mentality is different both with them and with us. Only a tough stance on all points - it is HARD and in the eye. Without humiliation. But the question is: who will carry out this position in life? Stalin is not! And to any of our bureaucrats the same Czech will throw a hundred or two bucks and the thing is in the hat. An example is the courts. Selling officials are Worse than all Chechens combined!
    Well, we should not do anything to the Caucasus. They are the same "Russians." Let them plow.
    1. evgenm55 19 December 2012 05: 44 New
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      Yevkurov, Colonel, at least when he left the Ural Military District headquarters for the presidency. I hear about his participation in the organization of the cast for the first time. But the rest I completely agree.
  28. master_rem 18 December 2012 13: 24 New
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    demon ada,
    I recall the Vostok battalion - the same bearded men - only already under the tricolor. It seems to be nice to have appeared in South Ossetia - and where are they? Maybe they easily begin to "lose their heads from success"?
    1. donchepano
      donchepano 18 December 2012 13: 32 New
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      Quote: master_rem
      I recall the Vostok battalion - the same bearded men - only already under the tricolor. It seems to be nice to have appeared in South Ossetia - and where are they? Maybe they easily begin to "lose their heads from success"?


      battalion east - it seems the brainchild of the GRU. commander Sulim Yamodaev really was a hero of Russia.
      In South Ossetia, he made a rustle and the first drove the Saakists by hand.
      But something quarreled with Kadyrov and was killed in Moscow. After this battalion, the East is not heard if I am not mistaken
  29. zemlyak
    zemlyak 18 December 2012 13: 52 New
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    There is such an art book `` Corporal's Harem '' is called. I don’t remember the author, like Chebalin, she’s in electronic libraries, who are interested in downloading. Events of 42-43 years, a German from the Caucasus, in the center of the events of the Chechen-Ingush Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic. The book is not bad, it is easy to read. When you read, try to impose read on our modern realities.
  30. Nasty
    Nasty 18 December 2012 14: 08 New
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    We need tough criminal laws, like in the United States, for a relapse - no partial addition of punishment, no parole, etc. For a murder - immediately 30-40 years of labor on the construction of roads in the Far East and the North.
    And if everything remains as it is now, then hope is only for a new ice age, when it will become terribly cold in the main Russia.
    1. Ghenxnumx 18 December 2012 14: 52 New
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      No 30-40 years - what are you talking about. For a relapse immediately to the wall, how many more geeks from their taxes should be fed .. But again, on condition Law is EQUAL for ALL.
  31. wax
    wax 18 December 2012 14: 56 New
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    Actually, why do hunters out of warrior hunters? It is necessary to find application in the direction to which they are more inclined: to create, for example, from the representatives of these peoples, international special forces for use outside our country in the regions of our interests. Now they would be very useful in Syria.
    1. Igor
      Igor 18 December 2012 15: 14 New
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      Better yet, send them to all four sides! Anyway, there are no Russians there, no minerals, only banditry and terrorism are exported to Russia and let them hammer each other, everyone who comes to the border closer than 1 km away. shoot tries ....
      1. Yeraz 18 December 2012 16: 53 New
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        Quote: Igorek
        Better yet, send them to all four sides!

        and get war again. Che wanted to fight?
        Quote: Igorek
        Anyway, there are no Russians there anymore,

        Who wants to live in an unsafe region? Caucasians are forced to stay there. Because this is their ancestral land and homeland, unlike the Russian one, which has a larger and much wider native land.
        Quote: Igorek
        there are no minerals

        oh well? and where is such infa? or have oil and gas miraculously disappeared off the coast of Dagestan? There are enough resources in the Caucasus.
        Quote: Igorek
        export to Russia only banditry and terrorism and let them hammer each other,

        Well, here you’re wrong, just Caucasian bandits in plain sight, but Russians who are sitting in government at different levels and are not robbed by armed attack or showdown. And so in other ways. One million roads put in the estimate of 17 million, a new hospital costs 2 lemons in the estimate of 20 and they’re robbing like that, and that the Caucasians are robbing the Russian people, I would not unequivocally say.
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        all who come to the border closer than 1 km. shoot tries ....

        oppaa is another matter if you give them independence and let them get it for themselves. Then the question will disappear. But whether others agree with you and whether it is in the interests of the Russian Federation is another matter.
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          Igor 18 December 2012 19: 42 New
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          Quote: Yeraz
          and get war again. Che wanted to fight?


          I mean independence.

          Quote: Yeraz
          Who wants to live in an unsafe region? Caucasians are forced to stay there. Because this is their ancestral land and homeland, unlike the Russian one, which has a larger and much wider native land.


          An unsafe region is already the whole of Russia. Now you are going on the subway, sitting at the airport, going on the train, sitting at home in a high-rise building, flying on an airplane and thinking, and suddenly it will smell.

          Quote: Yeraz
          oh well? and where is such infa? or have oil and gas miraculously disappeared off the coast of Dagestan? There are enough resources in the Caucasus.


          So let them live on them.

          Quote: Yeraz
          Well, here you are wrong, just Caucasian bandits in plain sight, and Russians who sit in the government at different levels and rob not armed attack or showdown.


          Well, some are robbing at the top, while others are on the street! And notice those who in the mountains vote for the government (99% laughing ).
          1. Yeraz 18 December 2012 19: 52 New
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            I mean independence.


            Well then, it is clear.

            Quote: Igorek
            An unsafe region is already the whole of Russia. Now you are going on the subway, sitting at the airport, going on the train, sitting at home in a high-rise building, flying on an airplane and thinking, and suddenly it will smell.


            No, all the same, when a bearded man comes to you in Dagestan and says that you must give him money to fight the infidels, or we will blow your store together with your family and fight with a Caucasian in the subway from the series hey did you see or did you catch a bit Different things))


            Quote: Igorek
            Well, some are robbing at the top, while others are on the street! And notice those in the mountains who vote for this government (99% laughing


            Do you really think that people are going to vote there? mostly civil servants and their relatives, and to show the result 99% is a matter of technology))
            1. Igor
              Igor 18 December 2012 20: 06 New
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              No, all the same, when a bearded man comes to you in Dagestan and says that you must give him money to fight the infidels, or we will blow your store together with your family into the air


              And surely it gives, and then boradochka will buy explosives with this money and blow up the subway and leave dozens of people without families, and with ... who gave money for the explosives, they will sleep peacefully and raise children.
    2. Yeraz 18 December 2012 16: 45 New
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      Quote: Wax
      It is necessary to find application in the direction to which they are more inclined: to create, for example, from the representatives of these peoples, international special forces for use outside our country in the regions of our interests.

      Well, how many Russian troops are abroad? Is it enough for every Caucasian to be provided with work? And who will be engaged in production locally? That they don’t know how or do not want all this nonsense. Azerbaijanis and Chechens worked well in the oil industry in Siberia.
    3. koosss 18 December 2012 20: 53 New
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      Th out of the entire population of special forces to do?) Th laugh then ..Kazkaztsev not hundreds of the same .. It goes about, I stress population, in particular youth ..
  32. DAGESTAN333 18 December 2012 15: 09 New
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    Justice will find everyone, in this world, or in that.

    I hope all this does not affect my salary in 7084r.
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      His 18 December 2012 15: 40 New
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      Everything in this world depends on finances. What ideas? Everyone needs a good life. But the understanding of this life is sometimes different
      1. DAGESTAN333 18 December 2012 16: 00 New
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        But the understanding of this life is sometimes different
        - absolutely agree. It would be extremely interesting for me to learn the opinion of the blockades of Leningrad that a modern Russian complains that he can afford only 25-50 kg of bread per day.
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          It would be extremely interesting for me to learn the opinion of the blockades of Leningrad that a modern Russian complains that he can only afford 25-50 kg of bread per day.

          Blockade Opinion - YES. And the opinion of the current St. Petersburg Thieves - NO.
  33. He is
    He is 18 December 2012 15: 31 New
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    I don’t know how about Chechnya, the KBR, Dagestan, etc., and we have already lost our bureaucrats with such a policy of the Stavropol Territory! They are already intensively populating the eastern regions of the Rostov region. Where to go, everywhere they are ...
  34. Lakkuchu
    Lakkuchu 18 December 2012 17: 33 New
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    99% of the local wiseacres in the Caucasus have never been, and they draw all their conclusions on the basis of the zombies and other media. Caucasians know how to work and work more than many of you, therefore they have houses and cars. Of course, it’s easier to sit for years at some half-dead plant getting a penny and curse those who are richer, those who did not wait for handouts from the state, but began to build their own lives. What is wrong with people spinning from morning to evening, doing business, trading? And what remains to be done, how to feed their families, when almost all enterprises (the majority worked for the defense industry) are safely collapsed? Dagestan in terms of construction takes one of the first places in Russia, and by the way, unlike Russian cities, where guest workers plow at construction sites, Dagestanis build themselves and everything is built at the expense of private capital.
  35. IRBIS 18 December 2012 17: 56 New
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    Ishak, who stood in the shade, will not work in the sun.
    Old as the world truth. And do not talk about "workaholics" from the Caucasus. Those who plow at them have neither mansions, nor prestigious cars. I mean really working. We all know well about "business" and "trade" - who sells what and what the business does. Let Caucasian businessmen transfer their "business" and "trade" to their native lands, provide the people with jobs and decent wages. They will be honored and respected, and it is easier for us (with a mare) from their absence on the streets of our cities along with their "business". Go ahead, eagles, to your homeland, to the Caucasus!
  36. figvamforever
    figvamforever 18 December 2012 18: 16 New
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    Russia's wealth with Siberia is growing.


    Russia's wealth grows in Siberia
    The ruin of Russia in the Caucasus is growing.
    The confusion and turmoil of Russia is growing in the current Kremlin. (one blah blah blah — no action, and if there are actions, it’s extremely ineffective)
  37. Gaersul 18 December 2012 18: 54 New
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    leeches like workaholes stuck around and sit in a white stone, and someone plows all day in factories for a penny.

    Good evening to all. First, a free retreat, for it was boiling. Joker, I will surprise you, but in Moscow there are enterprises where the same hard workers work as in the regions. And we, too, are not working for millions. All my life I have been working on the defense industry as a simple radio fitter (and I don’t just have to solder, because young people don’t go to work; like techie students who came on an excursion, when they found out about the salary, they directly said, I quote: “Let the Negroes work for that kind of money”). Nevertheless, I can honestly say that it’s a shame to see that they hate you in the regions, just because you are a Muscovite.
    However, the fact that a lot of all kinds of "pants support teams" really divorced in the capital is alas true.
    As for the idea that most of the money earned by the region remains in it, I support the idea :) The working person will not be left without a piece of bread, and the “guests of the capital” who behave like hosts (emphasis on the last syllable) will decrease.
    1. koosss 18 December 2012 20: 58 New
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      they hate you in the regions, just because you are a Muscovite.

      all because of stupid moronic generalization as usual
  38. Navy7981 18 December 2012 19: 09 New
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    That's right, "if you want to feed the hungry - give him work."
  39. chehywed 18 December 2012 21: 31 New
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    A little about Khloponin. When the helicopter crashed with Lebed (at that time the governor of the Krasnoyarsk Territory, if anyone does not remember) I was in Dudinka (a port on the Yenisei with a population of thousands of 25), whose mayor was Khloponin. The locals said right away: Swan Khloponin “worked out”. I thought the locals were lying. But when Khloponin became the elected governor of the Krasnoyarsk Territory, I was stunned. Try to calculate the likelihood that the mayor of the provincial town will become the governor of the region, with a population of more than 3 million. And now, the authorized representative.
  40. Pancho 18 December 2012 22: 40 New
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    The sad thing is that there is a replacement of Russian Caucasians and Asians. The Highlanders were mastering the Stavropol Territory with all their might. A friend came the other day, told me that in Pyatigorsk, where he lives, houses are for sale through one. People are leaving the arrivals from Dagestan and Chechnya. By the way, he is Ossetian. And in central Russia quite often it’s not villages, but villages with villages.
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      Here, I recommend a look. In this video everything is perfectly told. Already not only from the Krasnodar Territory, but even from Voronezh, the Russians are driven out.
  41. Karabin 18 December 2012 23: 09 New
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    Text: Zakir Magomedov

    The main source of funds for the terrorist gang underground in Dagestan was budget money. Even the head of the republic, Magomedsalam Magomedov, said that the treasury was financing the treasury. The problem is not new for the region, but for the first time they spoke about it with such directness at the highest level.

    The traditional source of funds for the bandit underground - business - does not develop in the republic, in particular, because of the "taxes" to the militants. Therefore, business feeds bandits worse and worse, and they increasingly tax officials. Entrepreneurs are fleeing the republic, and officials have adapted: the budget is not your pocket ...

    http://publicpost.ru/theme/id/2506/_nalogi_boevikam/?utm_source=SMI2&utm_medium=
    obmen & utm_campaign = pp- Here is the full article.
  42. Magadan 19 December 2012 01: 16 New
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    I have a friend from Stavropol, who is also not friendly with Caucasians, and is very hostile. This is sad. For me, for example, the world has long been divided into Toleraids with every blueness, with "spiritual leaders" like Madonna, Femen and Pusek, and normal people who try to live traditional Christian, Muslim, etc. values. Here Caucasians just - this is a real center of storage of such true values. And this is the main thing. It is clear that the rod and their distortions are defiant, even contemptuously, probably suspecting the Russians of excessive tolerance. They themselves do not realize this, but it is. We do not respect parents as they are, our women do not behave modestly, we don’t run to the rescue headlong, as they, we don’t even care about the elders ....
    So, guys, as you want, but in terms of spirituality I take the side of Caucasians. And we need these regions, not because of some resources there and not because of mythical tourism in the future. We need them precisely because of human value. As long as there are Caucasians in Russia, we certainly will not become Tolerasts.
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      Misantrop 19 December 2012 02: 17 New
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      I read this comment and ... I recalled a journalist from the time of the 1st Chechen war. Someone Elena Masyuk. She also had ideas of a similar plan, only she went a little further. "Robin Hood with a machine gun" about Basayev - exactly her words. And how did this friendship end, no one remembers? As she spent more than a month in Zindan with her “friends” she rushed to the Far East, only to be away from the “proud highlanders” ...
      Yes, they honor the old. But ... only mine. And customs are respected, only at home. And the women they watch themselves (not all there). With the martyrs' belts in the Moscow metro, who was caught? Traditions are a good thing, only the traditional zindan in almost every second courtyard seems to me a sort of “architectural excess”. No one will remember with what “tradition" this building is connected? With one of the oldest: people - this is only YOUR clan, and all the rest are prey, talking cattle. Well, as for observing the norms of the Koran, where is it recommended to the warrior to hide behind a pregnant woman and send the cut off fingers to the parents of his slaves with a demand for ransom? And the fact that they stand for each other a mountain, so this feature is even inherent in a pack of stray dogs ...
  43. Antistaks
    Antistaks 19 December 2012 01: 19 New
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    One Prime Minister is to blame for everything (he wrote and immediately remembered the story of the ETERNAL Jew - we have to endure it for another 900 years). First, he promised to soak everyone in the outhouse, and then he spread his hands and said - if we don’t pay them, they will blow us up (he said live).
    It’s interesting, and if I blow something up, they will at least pay me 20 tr as unemployed?
  44. gorkoxnumx
    gorkoxnumx 19 December 2012 11: 31 New
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    Why rebuilt when you still have to destroy?
  45. Chamber No. 6 19 December 2012 13: 26 New
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    Personally, in this topic, I’m very happy about this: the very fact that the article appeared on the site. Now I will explain my idea!
    For this reason, these sites exist so that power structures, by throwing in one or another material, could monitor the opinion of the masses.
    Apparently, at the top, positive dynamics began. Well, judge for yourselves - at the Kremlin’s announcement of a decrease in the financing of the Caucasus, the main consumer of the freebie (in “training”, which) quietly sniffs into a rag! Dashing Moscow dzhigits, receive, deadline. Even if, for now (I want to emphasize - “BYE”!) Conditional. The media are stuffing stuff, the publication of which, in the recent past, was considered (to put it mildly!) - "politically incorrect." In other words, it became “warmer”!
    No boyars! Changes in our life are coming unambiguously! And, as far as I can tell, not for the worse!
    1. Karabin 19 December 2012 23: 07 New
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      Quote: Chamber No. 6
      No boyars! Changes in our life are coming unambiguously! And, as far as I can tell, not for the worse!

      No, boyar, the problems of the Caucasus simply cannot be hushed up, and the mass opinions have nothing to do with monitoring. Trite to the Caucasus did not have enough money.
      1. Chamber No. 6 20 December 2012 09: 26 New
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        Trite to the Caucasus did not have enough money.
        Well, then everything will be - "much worse", as O. Bender said!