The most stylish anarchist Theodosius Shchus

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The most stylish anarchist Theodosius Shchus

In this photo, Feodosy Shchus is sitting in the center, to the left of him is the commander of the Jewish (!) Company A. Taranovsky, to the right is the commander of the machine gun regiment F. Kozhin

Most recently, looking through the comments on my article "Revolutionary General Lavr Kornilov", I saw photographs of Feodosy Shchus, an anarchist sailor, who is often called the “right hand” of Nestor Makhno. And suddenly I was struck by an electric shock, because I remembered the cult Soviet film "The Elusive Avengers" and its heroes - Danka and Ksanka. Which, if you call them officially, in an adult way - Daniil Shchus and Oksana Shchus.


The surname Shchus, you see, is very rare - not Ivanov, Petrov or Sidorov, and not even Nalivaiko. It's hard to believe in a coincidence. But even this is not enough. In order for the hint to become completely transparent, the filmmakers made their Shchus - by whom? That's right, a sailor. The first film is about the "elusive" and begins with the scene of his execution:




That is, with a high degree of probability it can be assumed that two of the four main characters of the films about the "elusive avengers", as conceived by one of the authors, were the children of the second person in the army of Old Man Makhno.

And it becomes very interesting: who in 1966 put such "bomb" "Easter eggs" into the plot? Directed by Edmond Keosayan? Or Sergei Yermolinsky, who wrote the script with Keosayan? And who, as they say, in the process of work studied many documents on stories Makhnovist movement.

I decided to look for materials on the history of the film and found out that the main opponent of the legendary four was to become Makhno's father - as in the original source, P. Blyakhin's story "The Red Devils". And the surname of Danka, Ksanka and their executed father in the original version was Nedolya. By the way, in the song of the Lyube group, it is precisely “Old Man Makhno looks out the window”, where it is dark and “the dead with braids stand along the roads - the work of the red devils”.

But in the end, Nestor Makhno was replaced by Burnash, who looks like another real-life ataman - N. Grigoriev, who controlled exactly the territory where the film takes place.


N. Grigoriev - the prototype of Burnash and pan-ataman Gritsko Tauride

Another famous sailor fought against Grigoriev - Zheleznyak (A. Zheleznyakov), famous for the phrase "The guard is tired":

"He went to Odessa, and went out to Kherson."


Ataman Gnat Burnash from the film "The Elusive Avengers", unlike Grigoriev, survived

Anatoly Zheleznyakov died on the armored train he commanded - in a battle with the White Guards, and the authors of the quoted song (it was written in 1936) again blamed everything on Makhno, who was not even close there. Meanwhile, Nestor accused Burnash's prototype, N. Grigoriev, of having connections with the Whites (two officers with incriminating letters were intercepted) and of organizing Jewish pogroms - but Makhno did not forgive either one or the other. And on the orders of the "father" Grigoriev was killed.

And here in 1966, the cinematic Danka and Ksanka suddenly changed their minds about fighting Makhno and acquired the name of his closest associate. And only one of the songs reminds of the original idea, in it for the only time in the entire film, the famous “father” is mentioned - as they say, neither to the village nor to the city: they fought with Burnash-Grigoriev and Sidor Lyuty (apparently, the “independent” ), but for some reason Nestor Ivanovich interferes:

“I would have come to my dear long ago,
May the devil Makhno stand in the way.

Okay, let's leave the question of the origin of Danka and Ksanka Shchusey open. Let each of the readers decide for himself who, at the will of the scriptwriters, was shot in the first film about the "elusive" - ​​the "real" Theodosius Shchus or his namesake.

But let's talk about this interesting man.

Origin and early years


The most stylish of the anarchists was born on March 25, 1893 in the village of Velikomikhailovka, Aleksandrovsky district, Yekaterinoslav province (in the USSR, Yekaterinoslav was renamed Dnepropetrovsk). Sometimes you can read that the native village of the hero of the article was called Dibrov - this is the local unofficial name given to him by the "dibrov", that is, oak forests that grew around. It was a very large settlement (more than a thousand households), which had a brick and tile factory, three steam mills, two steam oil mills, a postal and telephone exchange.

At baptism, the boy received the name Theodosius, but he is often called Fedos, sometimes even Fedor. The parents of the future anarchist sailor were rather poor peasants of Cossack origin.

In 1915, Feodosy Yustinovich Shchus was drafted into the army and ended up on the Black Sea navy. He always said that he served on the battleship "John Chrysostom", however, this information is not confirmed by documents: apparently, Shchus got on some insignificant ship and subsequently decided that it would still be more solid to wear a peakless cap of a battleship, and not some small "vessel".

But he was definitely a sailor, and not one of the last. He was a well-known martial arts master in the Navy, mastered the techniques of "French wrestling" (now - "Greco-Roman wrestling") and jiu-jitsu, and was engaged in boxing. He boasted that he knew some special secret grip, with which he could knock down and strangle any opponent.


Sailor Shchus

He was carried away by the ideas of anarchism, after the February Revolution of 1917 he joined a detachment of revolutionary sailors, but soon returned home. Perhaps, under more favorable circumstances, it was Shchus, with his ambitions and charisma, who would become the most famous and authoritative ataman of Little Russia. However, an even more passionate leader was found - the famous Nestor Makhno. This frail and unsightly little man (who, due to his small stature, really did not like to be photographed while standing) eclipsed and suppressed everyone. M. Weller wrote about him this way:

“Batko was small and thin, and not physically strong. And quiet in voice and modest in appearance. And tenacious like a cat, tenacious like a viper, hardy like a rawhide belt. I have never been confused, I have not known fear, I have not known hesitation.

None of the people surrounding Makhno dared to encroach on his power.

People's leader of Gulyaipole



Nestor Makhno, photo 1919

Nestor Ivanovich Makhno was a fellow countryman of Shchus (born in the same Yekaterinoslav province) and was 5 years older than him. He became a member of the "Peasant Group" of the anarcho-communists, participated in expropriations, was sentenced to death for the murder of two guards, but then it was replaced with indefinite hard labor.

In the cell of the Butyrka prison, Makhno met the "Bessarabian Robin Hood" - Grigory Kotovsky, as well as the anarchist Pyotr Arshinov, who had a great influence on him. Arshinov later wrote that penal servitude became the only school for Makhno where he learned historical and political knowledge. The friendship between Makhno and Arshinov went so far that in March 1919 the teacher came to a student in Gulyaipole and became the editor of the newspapers Path to Freedom and Insurgent.

As a political prisoner, Makhno was released after the February Revolution. He went to Kotovsky, but he himself was a very strong leader, he was not going to cede the championship to anyone, and therefore Nestor returned to his homeland. Here things went very well for him: he was elected chairman of the Council of Workers' and Peasants' Deputies, and also headed the local anarchist cell. He created his own "Black Guard", forced the manufacturers to raise the wages of the workers, took away the land from the landowners and distributed it to the peasants - two months before the Bolshevik decree. He made his motto:

"With the oppressed against the oppressors - always!"

And Makhno was then 28 years old, and at 45 he would already die in Paris.

Around this time - between the two revolutions of 1917 - Feodosy Shchus met Nestor Makhno. But he preferred to organize his own detachment - from fellow countrymen, on whom he made an indelible impression with his brave appearance and incredible "military uniform", at the sight of which modern couturiers should become depressed, and pop singers like Kirkorov should weep with envy.

Shchus wore a German-style hussar dolman, on his head - the invariable peakless cap of the battleship "John Chrysostom", on his belt - an expensive saber and colt, on his neck - a Caucasian dagger.


Meanwhile, the Central Council actually surrendered Ukraine to Germany and Austria-Hungary. Makhno with his "Black Guard" retreated to the territory controlled by the Bolsheviks. Here his fighters were disarmed, and Nestor himself went to Moscow, where he met with Kropotkin, Bukharin, Sverdlov and Lenin. Shchus with his detachment quite successfully waged a guerrilla war.

Makhno returned to Gulyai-Pole alone, with a revolver and two bombs. And very soon he was already at the head of a new army, the number of which was up to 20 thousand permanent fighters and about 30 thousand reserve ones. Several million people lived in the territory controlled by him.

By the way, it is Makhno who is considered the inventor of the famous cart, in the best of times the number of carts in his army reached 700.


Makhnovist carts


The famous slogan of the Makhnovists on one of the carts

Makhno categorically refused to cooperate with the Whites, and Wrangel's emissary was shot on his orders. He said in 1919:

“Communists are still revolutionaries. We can pay them off later."

Makhno became an ally of the Reds three times - and three times they declared them outlaws. He received the Order of the Red Banner number 4. Together with Blucher and Frunze, the Makhnovists stormed the Crimea and on November 8, 1920 forded the Sivash Bay. They were led by Semyon Karetnikov (Karetnik), one of the liquidators of Ataman Grigoriev.


S. Karetnikov in the center in the bottom row (in a cap)

Then they decided to send the Makhnovists to the Caucasus, they refused and on November 29 they again crossed the Sivash - already back to Tavria, fleeing from the Red Army units pursuing them. It all ended with the flight from the Bolsheviks to the territory of Romania - in August 1921.

But let's go back to 1918.

New meeting of Nestor Makhno and Theodosius Shchus


So, in September 1918, Makhno, with a still small detachment, approached Velikomikhaylovka. Local residents told him that Theodosius Shchus was in the forest with his people. Let's listen to Nestor's story:

“When I drove up to the clearing, where Comrade Shchus was supposed to come out to meet me, I saw a detachment lined up in a square, half in German-Austrian attire. Thinking that I had flown into the German Hetman's outpost, I quickly turned my horse back in order to get away somehow. But at that moment a voice was heard:
- Comrade Makhno, it's me, Shchus.
I went straight to the clearing, to the detachment. He greeted both the detachment and Shchus himself. Only now, looking at Shchus, dressed in a German hussar uniform, tightly fitting his handsome and slender figure, and armed to the teeth, I recognized in him that very handsome sailor Shchus, whom I knew before.

Apparently, Nestor Makhno Theodosius Shchus used to know such a “handsome sailor”:


Let's continue the quote:

“We hugged and kissed. His detachment was also well, although varied, dressed in German, Austrian, Ukrainian haidamak uniforms and peasant clothes; and was also armed to the teeth. It gave him a fighting look...
Then I posed a question to T. Shushu:
- What have you done with this detachment so far, Comrade Shchus, and what do you intend to do in the future?
The answer was short:
Until now, I have attacked returning landowners and destroyed them and all their guards, German and Austrian soldiers.
- And how do you feel about the hetman's varta? I asked him.
- I usually overclocked the Warta.
- But only? I asked him.
- I do not foresee any other work yet, because there are still a lot of reptiles that I destroy.
In these brief phrases of Comrade Shchus, everything was clear and understandable to me.

Shchus and his people joined Makhno's army - at first as an independent unit: at first, the "headquarters of Makhno and Shchus" appeared in the documents. But already on September 30, 1918, it was Makhno who led the operation of the united detachments, during which a large Austro-German detachment was defeated - many times superior to their forces (Shus then, after listening to Nestor's plan, called him "crazy"). After that, Theodosius unconditionally recognized the primacy of Makhno, and he was the first to call him "dad".


N. Makhno and F. Shchus

Pyotr Arshinov reports in his History of the Makhnovist Movement:

“Theodosius Shchus turned to Nestor Makhno with the following words: “From now on, you are above all of us, be a father, and we swear to die with you in the ranks of the rebellion.”

This was Makhno's first major success after his return to Little Russia. Here is how he himself describes the consequences of this victory:

“Comrades Shchus and Pyotr Petrenko were completely delighted with the successful raid ...
The next morning, peasants began to arrive from all over. The ranks of our armed forces began to replenish with incredible speed. Moreover, they were replenished by peasants who were ready to leave their district at any moment, if necessary, and go with us anywhere ...
And now the word “Batko”, already attached to my surname, did not leave the lips of old and small peasants, townsfolk and revolutionary detachments. It seemed to me personally both strange and inconvenient to hear peasants and rebels address me instead of the usual “comrade Makhno”, “Father Makhno”, and sometimes “comrade Batko Makhno”. But the epithet "Batko", against my will, stuck to my surname.

In June 2018, a monument dedicated to the uniting of the Makhno and Shchus detachments was unveiled in the village of Velikomikhaylovka.

Theodosius Shchus in the army of Nestor Makhno


I must say that Shchus was not the only sailor in Makhno's army.

A certain Dermendzhi, a native of Moldova, once served as a telegraph operator on the famous battleship Potemkin. He returned to Russia from emigration in 1917, organizing his own detachment, which, according to various estimates, consisted of 200 to 400 people. At Makhno, he became the head of the communications service and the commander of the telegraph battalion. He was killed in the summer of 1921.

But back to the hero of the article.

At first, Theodosius Shchus became the commander of cavalry units, but then moved to staff work.


Makhno and his staff. Berdyansk, 1919. Makhno and Shchus point to the map

His authority among the Makhnovists was very high, they say that he was the only one who could argue with Makhno. At peasant congresses, Makhno was invariably elected chairman, Shchus - his "comrade", that is, deputy.


Again next to Makhno

It is also reported about the huge success that Shchus enjoyed with women. He also wrote poems and songs, one of them contained the following words:

"Black banners ahead of the regiments,
Beware, Budyonny, father's blades!


D. Belykh in the role of F. Shchus, frame of the series "The Nine Lives of Nestor Makhno", 2006

In February 1919, Makhno made an alliance with the Bolsheviks, and his detachments, as the 3rd brigade, became part of the 1st Zadneprovskaya Ukrainian Soviet division of Pavel Dybenko.


N. Makhno and P. Dybenko, photograph, 1918

Theodosius Shchus then, remaining a member of the headquarters, became the commander of the Spartak armored train, which forced the French squadron to leave Mariupol with his fire.

Death of Theodosius Shchus


There are two versions of the death of the hero of our article.

According to the first, long recognized as unreliable, Makhno shot him because he allegedly offered to surrender to the units of the Red Army pursuing the rebel army.

However, in fact, Theodosius died on June 13, 1921 in a battle against the 8th Cavalry Division of the Red Cossacks of Mikhail Demichev - near the village of Nedrigailov, which is located on the territory of the Sumy region of modern Ukraine.
It was this defeat that became fatal for the remnants of the army of Nestor Makhno, who now fled to the Romanian border. 78 people arrived.

The seriously wounded Nestor Makhno was transferred to the right bank of the Dniester by another very interesting character - Lev Zadov (Zodov, Zinkovsky), whom we will probably talk about in the next article.
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  1. +12
    14 July 2023 04: 55
    Thanks to the author for this fascinating article. Now the society has awakened a true interest in the personalities of the times of the Civil War. Which I did not notice either in the 80s or in the 90s.
  2. +14
    14 July 2023 05: 58
    Received the Order of the Red Banner number 4.
    The fourth recipient of the Order of the Red Banner was Jan Fabricius. Regarding the awarding of Makhno, no documents have been preserved.
    Thank you, Valery!
    1. +3
      14 July 2023 19: 57
      I didn’t save the address, but here is an excerpt from the article (copied in 2015): Riddles of the Order of the Red Banner, author Sergey KOLOMNIN,
      colonel, member of the editorial board of the Orientir magazine:
      On March 7, 1919, Batka Makhno's troops liberated the city of Mariupol from Denikin's forces. The capture of the city was not an ordinary event for 1919, since under the blows of the red brigade commander the entire flank of Denikin's volunteers collapsed, and the situation at the front turned decisively in favor of the Red Army. For this operation, brigade commander Makhno was awarded the Order of the Red Banner. All researchers of Makhno's life agree that he received the order number four. Despite the fact that the data of the Soviet archives were partially withdrawn, partially destroyed, historians still managed to find evidence of his receiving the order for the operation on March 27, 1919. As noted in the victory report of P. Dybenko: “The Zadneprovskaya brigade took the port city of Mariupol, breaking the resistance the White Guards and the French squadron, while the stamina and courage of the regiments were unspeakable. More than 4 million poods of coal and a lot of military equipment were captured. Brigade commander N. Makhno and regiment commander V. Kurylenko were among the first in the RSFSR to be awarded the Orders of the Red Banner. There is also evidence that, while receiving the award, Nestor Ivanovich uttered the following phrase: “I am fighting not for orders, but for the victory of the revolution, since I am a peasant. And now our goal is to defend and protect the victory of the revolution from the whites.
      This is how the widow of Makhno G.A. reacted. Kuzmenko, when asked by the journalist and writer Semanov about whether her husband was awarded the Order of the Red Banner: “Galina Andreevna answered briefly, but unconditionally:“ Nestor was indeed awarded the Order of the Red Banner, when it happened, I don’t remember, but I remember the order very well , it was on a long screw, it was supposed to be worn, piercing outerwear, but Nestor never put it on. It was kept with me, and during the flight they threw all the things, apparently, among them the order. By the way, Galina Andreevna, apparently, is not quite right - the red brigade commander Makhno still wore the order, otherwise, where would the unique photograph of the father with the Order of the Red Banner on his chest come from?
      According to the official version, the Order of the Red Banner for No. 4 was awarded to the prominent Bolshevik, Latvian shooter, chairman of the RVC of the Pskov district, Jan Fabricius
      1. +3
        14 July 2023 20: 41
        Colleague, do you know how many orders of the Red Banner were made in the first series? Are you so versed in phalleristics as to assert that the order under the fourth number was awarded to Makhno, and not to Fabricius? Do you even understand that the production number of the order may differ from the assignment number? Do you even understand that I was talking only about the missing documents?
        1. +3
          14 July 2023 21: 47
          Quote: 3x3zsave
          Colleague, do you know how many orders of the Red Banner were made in the first series? Are you so versed in phalleristics as to assert that the order under the fourth number was awarded to Makhno, and not to Fabricius? Do you even understand that the production number of the order may differ from the assignment number? Do you even understand that I was talking only about the missing documents?

          Quote: Captain45
          I didn’t save the address, but here is an excerpt from the article (copied in 2015): Mysteries of the Order of the Red Banner, author Sergey KOLOMNIN, colonel, member of the editorial board of Orientir magazine:

          So the questions on the commentary are not for me, but for the author of the article - Colonel Kolomnin in the Orientir magazine, and for what I bought, for that I sell. hi And by the way, phaleristics is written with one "L".
  3. +6
    14 July 2023 06: 21
    In the photo in a cap, not Karetnikov. Karetnikov was 27 at the time of his death, and the cap is a mature man. To the right, in a hat, apparently there is Karetnikov, it coincides with other photos.
  4. 0
    14 July 2023 06: 33
    In general, when now, after so many years, you are reviewing many cult films of the 60s-80s, you are simply amazed at the amount of real, frank anti-Sovietism hidden in them .. Which then - we simply did not notice? And a quite reasonable question arises - how did this become possible at all? Where is the government looking? Or ... Everything was already done quite to itself with her approval? With might and main there was a preparation for the dismantling of Soviet power, yet - implicitly influencing people's minds?
    1. +3
      14 July 2023 07: 48
      Quote: paul3390
      And a quite reasonable question arises - how did this become possible at all? Where is the government looking? Or

      It was impossible to start this very dismantling right away, the masses had to be prepared in advance, they started from the stage, cinematography, a benevolent image of the former ideological enemy was gradually created, then - more, it is known how it all ended.
      A quote from Shusya's poem interested me, I read it in full - I liked it very much.
      red mayfly
      Faithful accordion
      Checker and rifle
      Yes brother horse
      1. +3
        14 July 2023 16: 11
        Author: And Shchus wrote poetry

        He is not alone. Poems were popular with the Makhnovists. Wrote all and sundry. Even the father himself did not disdain. In the internet, N. Makhno's poems are not difficult to find. Widely known is his poetic telegram sent by Dybenko during long difficult negotiations on the incorporation of the Makhnovists into the 1st Zadneprovskaya Ukrainian Soviet Division:
        I do not believe the Bolshevik
        The people shouted in one:
        "Don't lie like a gray gelding,
        We are all going to Makhno!" (c)
    2. +4
      14 July 2023 09: 04
      In the "new adventures of the Elusive" white officers are presented as such noblemen, one sings a song about the "Russian Field". And life in the Crimea under the whites is a complete idyll. Here in the "Crown of the Russian Empire" they walked through the emigrants with all their heart! True, one of the contenders for the throne looks like Lenin:

    3. +3
      14 July 2023 13: 29
      Or maybe there were simply no competent "consultants", as they write in the credits. I could be wrong, but even in the cult "17 Moments of Spring" the number of "blunders" in the form of Stirlitz and Muller is more than 10. Well, I'm just for an example.
      Many thanks to the author of the article for the great work done.
  5. +4
    14 July 2023 06: 44
    And how is Kotovsky, Makhno in Butyrka, with Dzerzhinsky, did not meet?
  6. +4
    14 July 2023 07: 06
    As they say, guten Morgen! hi

    Quote: VlR
    Surname Shchus, you see, is very rare

    Agree 1000%! Until today, she hadn't even caught my eye! drinks

    In general, many thanks to Valery for the article, and good day to the comrades! hi
  7. +3
    14 July 2023 07: 30
    Lyova Zadov is a well-known character from the equally famous Soviet television series "Walking Through the Torments"
    1. +2
      14 July 2023 20: 13
      Quote: certero
      Lyova Zadov is a well-known character from the equally famous Soviet television series "Walking Through the Torments"

      Lyova is still a character, as the chairman of the garage cooperative from the film of the same name said: “To betray in time is not to betray, but to foresee”, Lyova defected to the side of the “Reds” in time, served in the Cheka, even earned the Order of the KZ, but was shot in the late 20s as a harmful Makhnovist element. I had an article about it in the archive, I can not find it.
  8. -11
    14 July 2023 07: 49
    There was a lot of betrayal in Russia then. One of them is still lying on Red Square.
    1. +10
      14 July 2023 09: 53
      can you give an example? I'm about hate, only with links to documents, otherwise you are a liar
    2. +5
      14 July 2023 10: 12
      There was a lot of betrayal in Russia then. One of them is still on Red Square.
      - Do the TsIPSO workers dream of starting a Leninfall in the Russian Federation? And who, according to TsIPSOshnikov, was betrayed by Lenin?
  9. +6
    14 July 2023 08: 17
    Fedosy Ustinovich Shchus is my second cousin. For many years I collected information about his ancestors and about his life, collected everything that I managed to find in one rather big and very interesting book, which is 100% ready for publication - unique material, professional proofreading, layout (pilot copies were printed in two versions - vip and usual) can make this book a real event in the field of the history of events 1918-1921. taking place in the South of Russia and for everyone interested in the Makhnovist movement. I am looking for a publisher or sponsors to print at least the initial print run, I think the book has serious commercial potential, but I need a producer. If anyone has an interest and specific proposals for cooperation, please contact me.
    1. 0
      23 July 2023 22: 06
      My brother-soldier Vasya Zelyony, the city of Rzhishchev, his grandfather Ataman Zelyony, seems to be true, although ...
  10. +8
    14 July 2023 08: 27
    By the way, it is Makhno who is considered the inventor of the famous cart, in the best of times the number of carts in his army reached 700.

    what The authorship of Old Man Makhno in the invention and use of a cart with a machine gun is debatable.
    During street riots in the early 1890s, the NYPD used Gatling Bulldog spring-loaded carriages to patrol the streets.

    The British, from the last decade of the 19th century, used in India and in the Anglo-Boer Wars, also against the indigenous population in Africa, horse-drawn carts with mounted machine guns.

    Yesaul Shkuro, at the head of a special-purpose cavalry detachment of Kuban Cossacks, used a similar design during raids behind enemy lines in 1916, during the First World War.
    Initially, most likely, the horse-drawn cart was a means of delivering a machine gun to the front line of the clash with the BC.
    The tactics of using carts with machine guns mounted on wagons, it is believed that they were introduced into the Red Army: carts suddenly left the flanks of the Red Army units, turned around, machine gun crews were made for battle, and the calculation of the introduction of machine guns from carts took place in this way, when an avalanche of enemy cavalry units was on the attack, the distance of the machine-gun battle was sufficient for effective shooting, and the enemy no longer had the opportunity to stop, change the direction of the horse attack or disperse ...
    Our dear: Mitrofan Grekov "Tachanka" 1925. State Tretyakov Gallery

    The Poles then adopted:


    There is another story or legend about the slogan invented by N. Makhno.
    When he pursued the enemy on carts, a banner-poster was stretched over the carts, on the front side of which there was a white inscription on a black cloth: "X ... you will leave !!!"
    When Makhno retreated, there was an inscription on the back sides of his carts / carts: "X ... catch up !!!".
    1. +7
      14 July 2023 11: 27
      Franco-Prussian War 1870-71
      Prussian hussars with a Nordenfeld shotgun
      https://leib-hussar.livejournal.com/674993.html?noscroll
      1. VLR
        +3
        14 July 2023 11: 31
        I mean, the massive use of carts by the Makhnovists - and even as a separate branch of the army, a new tactic. And so, yes, even the British, during the war with the Boers, put machine guns on carts.
        1. +4
          14 July 2023 13: 13
          They say that the main difference between the Makhnovist carts is the spring suspension. On all the other crews, the machine guns loosened, lost accuracy, and failed. And at Makhno’s carts, at speeds up to 20 miles per hour, “flyed up” to the distance of a shot, “mowed down” everyone, and then turned around and left to reload. Enemy soldiers sometimes did not even have time to return fire. And before Makhno, wagons were used mainly as a means of transporting a machine gun. And they only shot when they stopped.
          1. +4
            14 July 2023 16: 32
            Quote: vet
            They say that the main difference between the Makhnovist carts is the spring suspension. On all the other crews, the machine guns loosened, lost accuracy, and failed. And at Makhno’s carts, at speeds up to 20 miles per hour, “flyed up” to the distance of a shot, “mowed down” everyone, and then turned around and left to reload. Enemy soldiers sometimes did not even have time to return fire. And before Makhno, wagons were used mainly as a means of transporting a machine gun. And they only shot when they stopped.

            When you drag a Maxim machine gun in hand-to-hand combat over bumps, ruts and ravines on a wheeled machine (it is not sprung), set it in a firing position, set up a sight, refuel a machine-gun belt, take aim, press the trigger with a sighting burst ... it works, it hits the target ?
            Imagine a platform (flange) from a large cable reel, supported by several (10-20 pcs) VAZ-2107 rear suspension springs, a Maxim machine gun on top, try to shoot ... it will only be 1/2 closer to shooting from a sprung wagon, and now add a move (trot, gait or gallop), which does not add accuracy in shooting (equally from the deck of a shallow-draft boat on a wave).
            In your opinion, it turns out that Makhno's carts also fired after stopping, as well as long before the Civil War, and after?
            What does "machine guns loosened and failed" mean?
            To stagger a machine gun - overheat the barrel, do not service the trigger mechanism, give a wedge what

            Py.Sy. Why were sprung horse-drawn carts used? Because such a move allows you to move the wagon faster without the threat of damage on a fast horse ride, at a speed higher than at a trot ...
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      4. +2
        14 July 2023 17: 43
        Tachanka: facts and misconceptions about the machine-gun cart of the Civil War

      5. +1
        16 July 2023 21: 33
        Quote: Senior Sailor
        Franco-Prussian War 1870-71
        Prussian hussars with a Nordenfeld shotgun
        https://leib-hussar.livejournal.com/674993.html?noscroll
        The chariot from Ancient Egypt is the ancestor of all "carts" - there is no "machine gun", but instead of it Archer
        The main similarity in the essence of the application mobile firing point - flew in, fired and drove away. Applicable only in large flat areas. The composition of the crew of the "combat vehicle" is also similar - carter (driver) and shooter.
        If you dig deeper into the history of chariots, you can reach Ancient Sumer (a community of independent city-states between the Tigris and Euphrates) it was there that they first appeared war wagons
        War cart - 4 horses and 4 wheels, the crew is a driver and a dart thrower.
        About 3900 years ago "war carts" were reborn into chariots, it happened in Mesopotamia - thanks to bent wood technology, which made it possible to make the wagons very light.
        Then about 3800 years ago chariots along with hykos came to ancient Egypt. When the Egyptians and Pharaoh Ahmose 1 expelled the invaders, they adopted war chariots.
        Already in the army of the pharaoh Thutmose 3 и Ramses 2 there were large formations of chariots, which were divided internally into squadrons of 50 chariots.
        In Egypt, the design and technology of the war chariot was brought to perfection - the chariot itself was collapsible (it can be stored disassembled in a warehouse), the weight of the chariot was reduced to several tens of kilograms.
        hi
    2. +1
      15 July 2023 13: 00
      Quote: Lynx2000
      Initially, most likely, the horse-drawn cart was a means of delivering a machine gun to the front line of the clash with the BC.

      Initially, to the Maxim machine gun in the army of the Republic of Ingushetia, except for the calculation of 10 belay (!!!)man was supposed to be 2(TWO!!) wagons - for transporting a machine gun, ammunition and spare parts.
      1. +1
        16 July 2023 05: 21
        Quote: your1970
        Quote: Lynx2000
        Initially, most likely, the horse-drawn cart was a means of delivering a machine gun to the front line of the clash with the BC.

        Initially, to the Maxim machine gun in the army of the Republic of Ingushetia, except for the calculation of 10 belay (!!!)man was supposed to be 2(TWO!!) wagons - for transporting a machine gun, ammunition and spare parts.

        what If I am not mistaken, in the Red Army, as of 1940, the staffing of the machine gun crew of the Maxim machine gun consisted of the following positions:
        1. head of the machine gun - controls the fire of the machine gun crew;
        2. gunner - is the deputy head of the machine gun, fires from a machine gun;
        3. assistant gunner - helps the gunner in assembling the machine gun for firing, in loading the machine gun, facilitates the feeding of the tape when firing and is responsible for ensuring that the machine gun has a sufficient number of cartridges and everything that is necessary for firing;
        4. observer-rangefinder - determines the distance (to targets and landmarks), observes the battlefield, the units of his troops and the results of his machine gun fire;
        5. cartridge carriers - at the direction of the head of the machine gun or gunner, they bring cartridges in tapes, water to cool the barrel, lubricant and everything necessary for the combat operation of the machine gun;
        6. riding - in charge of a horse-drawn cart for transporting a machine gun and ammunition, organizes the equipment of tapes with cartridges and their carrying to the machine gun.
        Not much different in composition from the calculation of the Russian Imperial Army in the WWI (commemorative photo, the full composition of the machine-gun crew, including the driving one):


        In other words, carts - mobile firing points, after firing the BC, are removed from the LBS to the rear, the BC is replenished, the machine gun is serviced. A supply of water, and boxes of loaded ammo belts can be placed on the machine gun cart. Remove the machine gun from the cart, install it in a position before the battle according to the forces of two fighters + a mount. One commander of the so-called. machine gun platoon / company, as part of these several carts.
        Similarly, it was not necessary to have a machine gun crew of the full strength on armored vehicles, for example, the Austin-Putilovets wheeled armored car armed with 2 Maxim machine guns had a crew of 5 people.

        Py.Sy. The better prepared the gunner-shooter of the machine-gun crew, the more he replaces 1 and 4 staff units. hi
  11. VLR
    +4
    14 July 2023 09: 00
    When I watched the information on the film, I found out that young Al. Gradsky tried!
  12. +4
    14 July 2023 09: 01
    Thanks, Valery! Fascinatingly. And the opening came out well. The Time of Troubles brings various figures to the fore.
    1. +2
      14 July 2023 09: 09
      Quote from Korsar4
      The Time of Troubles brings various figures to the fore.

      It's hard to argue with that! drinks
      Good morning, Sergey! hi
      1. +2
        14 July 2023 09: 14
        Good morning!

        This is what is remembered.
        Can't resist repeating one of my favorites.

        But you loved your childhood -
        Through the forests of deep monasteries, log cabins,
        On the steppes of nomadic without roads,
        Free expanses and chains,
        Pretenders, thieves and cut them off,
        Nightingale whistle and prison.
        1. +1
          14 July 2023 09: 40
          Quote from Korsar4
          Good morning!

          This is what is remembered.
          Can't resist repeating one of my favorites.

          But you loved your childhood -
          Through the forests of deep monasteries, log cabins,
          On the steppes of nomadic without roads,
          Free expanses and chains,
          Pretenders, thieves and cut them off,
          Nightingale whistle and prison.

          good drinks
        2. +11
          14 July 2023 12: 05
          The video shows a rare newsreel in color - a unique newsreel from Berdyansk, it depicts Makhno with his headquarters and the Insurgent Army in the spring of 1919.

          1. +3
            14 July 2023 13: 25
            Hi Dima!
            Thanks for posting. Cool! Like now.
          2. -1
            15 July 2023 01: 41
            It is surprising that such a short person at such a small age received the nickname dad.
            Obviously, everything was in order with his brains, it’s not for nothing that he wears a hat showing a convex forehead
    2. +4
      14 July 2023 10: 16
      Now Shchus would be called the "sex symbol" of the Makhnovist movement laughing
  13. +3
    14 July 2023 09: 42
    As a political prisoner, Makhno was released after the February Revolution. He went to Kotovsky, but he himself was a very strong leader, he was not going to cede the championship to anyone, and therefore Nestor returned to his homeland.
    And when did he go to Kotovsky? The fact is that, G. Kotovsky and his associate A. Kitsis were released from the Odessa prison only on April 7, 1917. Since August 1917, Kotovsky was on the Romanian front. But Makhno, already in early March 1917, was in Gulyai-Pole, where on March 29, 1917, he headed the steering committee of the Gulyai-Pole Peasant Union of an anarchist persuasion, and after its reorganization into the Council of Peasants and Soldiers Deputies Nestor Makhno was elected chairman of the Council and at the same time became a member of the Gulyai-Pole Committee of Public Salvation. In the same period, Makhno also headed the local anarchist group. But Kotovsky, in November 1917, joined the Left Social Revolutionaries. Nerchinsk penal servitude. Perhaps, in 1910, when N. Makhno was imprisoned there, he was passing through there. But what is interesting in Butyrka prison at that time, F.E. Dzerzhinsky was serving a term and left there like Makhno, after the February Revolution , Kotovsky, while passing through, met Makhno, and Dzerzhinsky for 1911 years, so he didn’t manage to see Makhno, although they were in the same prison. Apparently they didn’t even talk to each other.
    1. +3
      14 July 2023 10: 09
      and Dzerzhinsky for 6 years, so to see Makhno
      Why six? Dzerzhinsky was transferred to Butyrka in 1916.
      1. +2
        14 July 2023 11: 08
        I miscalculated, a little .. In 1912 he was arrested, while the court and the case, in April 1914 he was sentenced to 3 years of hard labor, he served them in the Oryol Central. For violation of the regime and old "merits" in 1916 he was sentenced to another 6 years of hard labor, served her in the Butyrka prison in Moscow. He was leaving, but he never met Makhno, and Kotovsky, on his way, met and even became friends in the course of the article. smile And basically according to the commentary, what's wrong? smile Where else did you go wrong?
        1. +2
          14 July 2023 11: 20
          Yes, I actually did not criticize the comment, I just noticed a discrepancy.
  14. +3
    14 July 2023 09: 47
    The famous slogan of the Makhnovists on one of the carts
    Old Man "Angel" from the film "Adjutant" of His Excellency, was he a Makhnovist? From the film, it is difficult to determine his political orientation.
    1. +2
      14 July 2023 11: 21
      Quote: kor1vet1974
      From the film, it is difficult to determine his political orientation.

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  15. BAI
    +4
    14 July 2023 11: 44
    The famous slogan of the Makhnovists on one of the carts

    This is a scene from the movie "His Excellency's Adjutant"
  16. +3
    14 July 2023 12: 14
    Thanks a lot for such an interesting article. Very educational!
  17. +4
    14 July 2023 13: 34
    Thanks for the interesting article, Author!
  18. 0
    14 July 2023 15: 53
    But already on September 30, 1918, it was Makhno who led the operation of the united detachments, during which a large Austro-German detachment was defeated - many times superior to their forces (Shus then, after listening to Nestor's plan, called him "crazy").
    ... This was Makhno's first major success after his return to Little Russia. Here is how he himself describes the consequences of this victory:

    “Comrades Shchus and Pyotr Petrenko were completely delighted with the successful raid ...
    The next morning, peasants began to arrive from all over. The ranks of our armed forces began to replenish with incredible speed. Moreover, they were replenished by peasants who were ready to leave their district at any moment, if necessary, and go with us anywhere ... ".

    This episode makes you think and doubt. In the subsequent, "heroic" interpretation of it. The Germans perceived as an enemy only representatives of the Russian army, or the White Guards, as their successors. During the heroic "iron stream" through the North Caucasus in 1918, units of the Reds passed through Novorossiysk occupied by the Germans without hindrance, but the Germans diligently fired at the Whites sitting on their tail from the artillery installed on the ships.
    It turns out that the Germans deliberately avoided fighting with everyone who was against the legitimate authorities in Russia at the time of the start of WWI. So the "defeat" of the German detachment could have been deserved by the not-so-military genius of Makhno. But as a result, the authority of the "father" rushed up, and his army became a truly great force.
  19. +3
    14 July 2023 18: 49
    By the way, it is Makhno who is considered the inventor of the famous cart, in the best of times the number of carts in his army reached 700.
    About the invention of the cart. For a long time I also thought that this was the brainchild of N. Makhno. But recently I read the family chronicle of my friend, so his father (born 1905) during the first defense of Tsaritsin (from July to September 1918) was the second number on a machine-gun cart. So this mobile machine gun point seems to have been invented in many places at once.
    1. +2
      15 July 2023 03: 25
      Hello everyone from Konstantin (Sea Cat).

      And here's what he says:

      the first time a machine gun was used on a cart was not Old Man Makhno,
      And Cecil Rhodes is at war with Lobengula.
  20. +1
    15 July 2023 10: 00
    Nestor Makhno ... M. Weller wrote about him like this:

    Is this some sort of Weller? Isn't this one:
    Weller, Mikhail Iosifovich (born May 20, 1948 - Wikipedia)?
    Well, just an awesome specialist on Makhno and all other issues! laughing
  21. +2
    15 July 2023 12: 50
    In the photographs, Feodosy Shchus is just like a young lover on postcards of pre-revolutionary Russia. In the TV series "The Nine Lives of Nestor Makhno" they lost a lot, so carelessly depicting such a bright character, it's even a shame for them. An unshaven face and unkempt hair instead of a "glamorous" handsome man with a neat mustache and lush curls who obviously carefully cared for himself ...
  22. +1
    16 July 2023 11: 23
    Well, yes .. Kirkorov did not even stand next to this anarchist, in terms of "form", although there is a difference of 100 years. Although many people like Philip. Every man to his own taste.