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US in search of the culprit for the release of the "Arab spring" out of control, failures in the Caucasus and Central Asia: a seminar in RAND

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US in search of the culprit for the release of the "Arab spring" out of control, failures in the Caucasus and Central Asia: a seminar in RANDIn the course of the seminar on the development of a strategic analysis methodology held in the US strategic research center RAND (Research and Development) in the summer of this year, the National Intelligence Council (NIC) of the United States Long-Range Analysis Unit A number of theses were announced, which determine the dynamics of US foreign policy in the Middle East region, the Caucasus and Central Asia.

According to analysts Sergey Grinyaev and Hrachya Arzumanyan in an article published on the website of the Armenian agency "Noyan Tapan", of interest is the conclusion that "velvet" revolutions in Georgia and Kyrgyzstan actually failed, as did the whole "Arab Spring" (1) which today threatens to break out of control. "Based on interdepartmental contradictions and internal struggles in the US intelligence community, the conclusion that the American policy failed was not officially made. The agencies did not want to report the bad news political decision makers in Washington, ”experts conclude.

"The theses about the main points of the US strategy in the Middle East are also very characteristic. First of all, it is the thesis of the desirability of maintaining authoritarian regimes in key countries of the region (in Egypt, Iran, Syria). Despite the revolutionary change of power in a number of countries in the region and the arrival of a new elite, the United States does not intend to contribute to the collapse of key countries, threatening chaos and loss of control over regional processes. In the same context, it is interesting to assume that Turkey may lose the secular character of the state. nskie experts are right, it will take quite serious changes in the regional politics of the Caucasus, where the Islamic factor will acquire a qualitatively different sound and role, "- the authors of the article.

Sergey Grinyaev and Hrachya Arzumanyan note in this regard the statement of Sheikh Yusuf El-Kardawi, one of the spiritual leaders of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, which some people call the "Sunni Khomeini." “He attacked with fierce criticism of Russia's policy in the Middle East. In one of his speeches on QatarTV, the sheikh said the following:“ Brothers, Moscow these days has become an enemy of Islam and Muslims. It turned into the number one enemy of Islam and Muslims, because it came out against the Syrian people ... The Arab and Islamic world must stand on a united front against Russia. We must boycott Russia - our enemy number one, "experts cite Yusuf al-Kardawi.

"The conclusion that the shifts taking place in the region today are in favor of Iran is also interesting, regardless of how far it develops the nuclear program (1), as well as the view that sanctions and the financial crisis are not able to have a serious impact on This shift makes it possible to reiterate that the Iranian nuclear program is only a form of deterrence from the US of Iran’s growing power.The slowdown and even complete cessation of the nuclear program will not change the goals of American policy and strategy towards Iran. From this point of view, the ongoing group (5 + 1) negotiations around the Iranian nuclear program are viewed as a dead end, but a necessary element of the overall strategy, which should allow neutralizing the policies of Russia and China, on which the attempt will be made to lay the blame for the failure of the negotiations.

A similar approach is observed with respect to the Israeli-Palestinian problem, when, against the background of an understanding of the impasse in the current US policy, the task is how and how to get out of the game, and who should be blamed for the failure of former diplomacy. After the politicians conclude that there is no solution to the problem (including the format of the two states), the key question is: who will be found guilty of disrupting the negotiations and the destruction of the structures, on the basis of which attempts have been made to resolve the problem over the past decades.

From this point of view, the concept of “reputation” of the geopolitical factor and the situation where decisions are made are dictated not only by objective factors and calculations, but also by subjective ones, including reputation, the preservation of which may cause the United States to act irrationally. The United States, as an actor, cannot afford to shake its status as a superpower and the dominant power in the geopolitical arena. Therefore, they need to avoid a situation where the superpower is “cornered” and is forced to solve the problem of saving face. Such a choice and dilemma - political calculation or reputation - is fraught with irrational decisions, "the authors of the article warn.

In this regard, they continue, it can be noted that recently "reputational risks" are also facing Russia: "In particular, the statement of Nursultan Nazarbayev about the" colonial yoke of Tsarist Russia, "landing an airplane with Russian citizens on board in Turkey, put the Russian leadership before the need to find a fairly subtle compromise between the need to save face and not be drawn into destabilization and someone else's game on unfavorable conditions for themselves. "

"In general, analyzing the results of the seminar held in RAND, it can be concluded that in certain circles in the US there is an understanding of the fact - many of the regional constructions and projects around which US policy was built may collapse because they have ceased to comply with the 21st century security environment Such a conclusion looks quite logical and leads to the formulation of a new challenge: how could the US ride the inevitable wave of instability in the region, sending it to the required direction? In the US, there is an understanding of the need abandoning a number of projects instead of solving the problem of preserving the load bearing structures of the regional security of the Greater Middle East. At the first stage, it is proposed to focus on using the released decay energy, directing it in the right direction in order to ultimately be able to build a new structure region, in which the role and importance of some actors will be radically revised, which will ultimately create a new balance in the region at a lower level no tension in the region ", concluded Sergey Grinyaev and Hrachya Arzumanyan.
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  1. Skiff
    Skiff 13 December 2012 16: 00
    +13
    The evil committed by the United States will probably overtake the scales of all atrocities in the place taken all over the world and someday, the people of America will have to answer before the whole world for the genocide of the entire planet.
    1. TUNISIA
      TUNISIA 13 December 2012 16: 33
      +7
      For some reason, I always thought that everything that the Americans are doing in the geopolitical arena is planned to the smallest detail and pursues some kind of global goal for the United States itself in the medium term. As a result, statements such as in this article convince me more and more that there are no normal, healthy people in the US leadership and have not been for a long time. Apparently, it won't ... How can you play "tag" with the Islamic world and try to build a secular democratic society in their states? This requires not two or three years to spend, but decades, and maybe hundreds of years, there must be a change of more than one generation in order to achieve such goals. The "Arab springs" will not help here, but will only aggravate the situation, as a result of which the already unstable Islamic world is shaking its own political and religious boat with the help of the West, and as a result, the West will kick the ass. I personally associate the actions of the United States with the actions of a cornered person who tries to use all possible methods, including rash ones and instincts performed on a subconscious level, to get out of a dangerous situation for him.
      1. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 13 December 2012 16: 39
        +10
        When finally Onishchenko declares to the whole world-Democracy is a disease! Meet the doctor!
        1. DmitriRazumov
          DmitriRazumov 13 December 2012 17: 41
          +5
          The concept of "Democracy", as you know, originated in ancient Greece, which was a slave state. So a small percentage of the population was given the right to live in relative comfort, incl. political due to the huge number of slaves, which. did not have any rights at all and were not considered people. So in order to implement "democracy" for a minority somewhere, it is necessary to have sources of material resources at the expense of which it will exist. This, in principle, proves the nature of modern neo-colonialism, actively pursued by the United States and the powerful countries of Europe. Suffice it to look, for example, at Greece, which buys several hundred American tanks during the period of the most severe economic crisis. It's even hard to think where they can be placed there ...
          1. Bismarck
            Bismarck 13 December 2012 18: 20
            +2
            Quote: DmitriRazumov
            to Greece, which during the period of severe economic crisis buys several hundred American tanks

            Wait a little, they are also handed a couple of submarines to the Greeks or an aircraft carrier! yes
      2. AlexxxNik
        AlexxxNik 13 December 2012 18: 23
        +1
        yes, that’s exactly what you think, if you do not take into account that someone uses the states in their game
      3. Sandov
        Sandov 13 December 2012 21: 15
        +1
        Quote: TUNISIA
        "In general, analyzing the results of the seminar held at RAND, we can conclude that understanding of the fact is maturing in certain circles of the United States.

        All these revolutions were made and are being done to create chaos, the amers do not need stability.
    2. merkel1961
      merkel1961 13 December 2012 16: 52
      +6
      On other people's humps, the States managed to enter the "American dream", in the twentieth century they knocked half of the world in world wars, but they cannot resist, it is a fact. their democratization has long been only a colonial policy, either the blind or the accomplices, crumbs from the master's table, do not see. negative
      1. Bismarck
        Bismarck 13 December 2012 18: 22
        0
        Quote: merkel1961

        On other people's humps, the States managed to enter the "American dream", in the XNUMXth century, pushing half the world in world wars,

        They hope for a third world. Proven methods, profitability is acceptable, there are a lot of fools in the world. It remains only to stir up.
  2. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 13 December 2012 16: 03
    +10
    SSA operation to capture Damascus failed

    One of the generals in command of the Syrian army said in an interview with the Lebanese newspaper Safir that the Syrian Free Army's operation to capture Damascus, which had been preparing since the summer, had completely failed.

    "The active phase of this operation has failed, in which several thousand bandits participated, and which lasted for the last two weeks. In general, the militants have been preparing to seize the capital since the summer," RIA Novosti quotes the high-ranking military man.

    According to the general, at the moment, the cleaning of the areas directly adjacent to the Damascus airport, the quarters of the city of Daraya and the suburbs of East Guta is being completed.

    In Daraya, the Syrian military faced gangs of mercenaries from various countries. Islamist militants from Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Tunisia, Jordan, Palestine and the Russian North Caucasus are fighting here. The day before, in one of the districts of the city, a bandit group under the command of a Libyan citizen was destroyed.

    Despite the statements of the Syrian military, intense fighting in the suburbs of Damascus still continues. On December 11, the armed groups of the SSA in Zamalka and Erbin again intensified. The militants made several attacks on the checkpoints of the Syrian army, in response, special operations were carried out in areas occupied by bandits. Artillery and missile strikes were fired at their firing positions in Erbin and Harast.

    The Syrian opposition does not agree with the views of the Syrian military. FSA representatives reported that fierce fighting continues in the southern suburbs of Modamia and especially Daraya and the intensity of clashes does not subside. According to the militants, over the past day they managed to seize 2 checkpoints in Rankus and the building of a technical school in Harast. The day before, they announced the "liberation" of the building of an art school in the same city.

    Until recently, the SSA representatives daily announced the destruction of aircraft and helicopters of the Syrian Air Force, and their statistics on the loss of armored vehicles of the Syrian army says that government troops will not have tanks and armored personnel carriers. So for example, on December 11, they said that in a day in different provinces of Syria (mainly in Aleppo) they managed to destroy 27 units of armored vehicles.

    Nevertheless, the militant combat activity in Damascus and its suburbs has declined over the past three days. The offensive impulse of the gangs is coming to an end and, at least north of the Syrian capital, they again have to return to the underground guerrilla-terrorist tactics of warfare.


    Source: http://warsonline.info/siriya/operatsiya-ssa-po-zachvatu-damaska-provalilas.html
  3. strannik595
    strannik595 13 December 2012 16: 04
    +6
    Miss Wow: Decl is to blame, is Mona under house arrest?
    1. TUNISIA
      TUNISIA 13 December 2012 16: 37
      +5
      Quote: strannik595
      Miss Wow: Decl is to blame, is Mona under house arrest?

      Can I have another comment on this photo?
      "Obama has this one."
      1. rolik
        rolik 13 December 2012 17: 54
        0
        Rather, her pancake, which Clinton, is like that.
      2. ded
        ded 13 December 2012 18: 19
        0
        "Obama has this one."


        All the same, Russian people think alike! I did not have time to read your comment on the photo, but the following occurred to me:

        "And Bill Clinton has this one."
        1. MG42
          MG42 13 December 2012 23: 27
          +2
          Quote: ded
          "And Bill Clinton has this one."

          What really happened there can only be guessed wassat
          Bill, Hillary and the beloved dog laughing
  4. Shkodnik65
    Shkodnik65 13 December 2012 16: 11
    +15
    [Quote]“Brothers, Moscow these days has become the enemy of Islam and Muslims. It has become the number one enemy of Islam and Muslims, because it opposed the Syrian people ... The Arab and Islamic world must stand in a united front against Russia. [/ Quote]
    [Quote]"In particular, the statement of Nursultan Nazarbayev about the" colonial yoke of Tsarist Russia ", the landing of an aircraft with Russian citizens on board in Turkey, [/ quote]
    Once again, I am convinced of the genius of the words of Emperor Alexander III that Russia has two friends - the army and navy.
    And this malachol obscurantist Sheikh Yusuf al-Kardaui, apparently not in the course that Russia is one third of Muslims. Also me, the representative of the Siti people, your division ...
    1. Nikita
      Nikita 13 December 2012 23: 58
      0
      Damn, when some activist there said on the Internet that Moscow would be filled with blood, if they don’t introduce Sharia, then what can we talk about, the Islamists are dangerous for the Slavs, we need a semi-iron curtain, there are too many of them in Russia, and will not happen God forbid the same garbage as in Syria, the civil war of the Slavs and Islamists, then then
  5. askort154
    askort154 13 December 2012 16: 12
    +2
    Yes, the legs of a cow on ice, more and more parted. Chaos in
    The Mediterranean, a "gift" for Europe as well, is becoming
    no longer predictable. And here, with China, more and more
    confront the Southeast Asian region. Problems like a snowball are growing in US foreign policy.
  6. Pit
    Pit 13 December 2012 16: 16
    0
    As always. And eat the fish and pass the bones.
  7. WW3
    WW3 13 December 2012 16: 24
    +4
    USA in search of the culprit for the "Arab spring" out of control

    It's like a non-commissioned officer widow carved herself lol laughing
    The secular regimes were replaced by radical Islamist regimes, and here they are killing the US ambassador, burning flags, smashing embassies ... and this is just the beginning, but the fact that the US invaded Iraq, not a day without undermining any landmine ... and Afghanistan .. . everywhere complete failure ...
  8. aleks.baa2012
    aleks.baa2012 13 December 2012 16: 29
    0
    Naive usa request but.
    1. DmitriRazumov
      DmitriRazumov 13 December 2012 17: 45
      +1
      However, all sorts of Boeing, Lockhids, Northgroup grumans, etc. nothing so earned. So not everything is so bad for the USA ...
  9. anchonsha
    anchonsha 13 December 2012 16: 35
    +4
    Well, you tell me, well, Russia is to blame everywhere .... Well, Russia rebuilt everyone, fed it, raised it and trained it, did not exploit anyone except its peasants, especially in Central Russia, they gave Crimea for nothing. After the collapse of the USSR, everything remained in the Union republics, they did not force anyone to do anything, but now it turns out that we all occupied, that everyone was suffocating from our yoke ... Well, what should I do? Now Russia defends the sovereignty of Syria, Iran, confronts the colonial seizures of entire continents by the West and the USA, and again we are to blame. Russia is against the exploitation of the Arabs, but the Arabs themselves are against us. Living for ourselves alone does not work, because NATO is already on our borders. It’s hard for our Ministry of Foreign Affairs to maneuver between sharks in order to survive ....
    1. Bashkaus
      Bashkaus 13 December 2012 16: 50
      0
      Why do we have to maneuver between these sharks? Better they maneuver between ours in the Mediterranean Sea)))
    2. rolik
      rolik 13 December 2012 17: 57
      +1
      In order not to maneuver, one must become a shark himself, and as quickly as possible. Great white shark.
  10. Manager
    Manager 13 December 2012 16: 53
    +4
    After Obama won the presidential election, Wanga's prophecy was the focus of attention. In 1978, she predicted: “When a black man wins, America will freeze and fall into the abyss of a major crisis. It may even break up into southern and northern states. "

    Edgar Cayce: "Look at New York, Connecticut and the like. Many areas on the east coast will shake, as will many areas of the west coast, as well as the central US. Los Angeles, San Francisco, most of these cities will be destroyed even before New York. The East Coast areas near New York, and possibly New York itself, will practically disappear. And this will happen sooner. The waters of the Great Lakes will merge into the Gulf of Mexico. "

    The collapse of the United States was also predicted by the winner of the "Battle of the Psychics" Mehdi Ebrahimi Wafa!

    Is this application of American power wise? Is the achievement of friendship with Russia, China, India (not to mention the European Union) more important than the Middle East? An attempt to strengthen global leadership through revitalization in the Middle East can be assessed as an illusion or an incorrect calculation. Imperial overtures in the Arab world can only weaken the United States in a key, critical area for them.

    America, it won’t last long. Let's help her. Or destroy to e .... m or put our president there!
    1. polly
      polly 13 December 2012 17: 28
      0
      Come on, Zhirinovsky, he’s already matured and outgrown! wink
  11. sashka
    sashka 13 December 2012 17: 06
    0
    Oddly enough .. The money spent, after all, someone earned .. And someone will spend it. I mean the American people. Just for those "state employees" in our opinion .. However, the Great thinks differently .. The road to nowhere .. BUT SCREAM ABOUT "OWN" WAY. It's us in an instant .. The main thing is that there is no war .. It's funny ..
  12. andrei332809
    andrei332809 13 December 2012 17: 15
    +4
    "there is no salvation in violence and lies,
    no matter how boldly wield them
    for the human soul
    for the human body. "
    Tyutchev
  13. Oleg14774
    Oleg14774 13 December 2012 17: 30
    0
    Here about the bone to pass the first time I hear! smile
    Sorry for the naivety and what to do with it, or rather where?
  14. vorobey
    vorobey 13 December 2012 17: 47
    +3
    “Brothers, Moscow these days has become the enemy of Islam and Muslims. It has become the number one enemy of Islam and Muslims, because it opposed the Syrian people ... The Arab and Islamic world must stand in a united front against Russia. We must boycott Russia - our enemy number one, "experts quote Yusuf el-Qardawi.


    For a long time I offered to give the Qatar one Poplar M. Then I would have understood all this rhetoric. And then the "Brothers" dangle like hell in the washstand, then America is enemy number 1. That is Russia. You will decide so that we know what to do.
    1. Simon
      Simon 13 December 2012 21: 40
      0
      Only "Topol M" let him fly there, to Qatar. wassat
  15. Serg_Y
    Serg_Y 13 December 2012 17: 54
    +1
    Oops, napoleon, oops, hitler, oops, orange revolutions, tolerance drives. Why is only the main enemy of Russia everywhere?
    1. Bismarck
      Bismarck 13 December 2012 18: 51
      0
      Quote: Serg_Y

      Oops, napoleon, oops, hitler, oops, orange revolutions, tolerance drives. Why is only the main enemy of Russia everywhere?

      And they say there is no constancy in the world.
  16. Captain45
    Captain45 13 December 2012 18: 38
    0
    "Based on interdepartmental contradictions and internal struggles in the US intelligence community, the conclusion that American policy has failed was not officially made. The agencies did not want to give bad news to political decision-makers in Washington," the experts conclude. nothing resembles the last sentence - "The departments did not want to tell the bad news to decision-makers", there are no analogies? For example: KGB analysts - information to the Central Committee - stubborn old politicians and newly minted Judas - the collapse of the USSR. I would like to believe that the United States will eventually suffer the same fate.
  17. GOLUBENKO
    GOLUBENKO 13 December 2012 18: 39
    0
    “Brothers, Moscow these days has become the enemy of Islam and Muslims. It has become the number one enemy of Islam and Muslims, because it opposed the Syrian people ... The Arab and Islamic world must stand in a united front against Russia. We must boycott Russia - our enemy number one, "experts quote Yusuf el-Qardawi.

    I was surprised by the Basurman, but we’ll beleagging enemies for centuries of history, Turkey alone has suffered so much from us.
    "In particular, the statement of Nursultan Nazarbayev about the" colonial yoke of Tsarist Russia "

    You might think in Russia someone would be surprised at this phrase for internal use. The Kazakhs also rewrite history, because now it’s not the Kazakh khans who asked to join the empire under the protection of the Russian army and Cossacks from Dzungaria and Khiva with Kokand, and the Russians occupied the territory of modern Kazakhstan.
  18. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 13 December 2012 19: 25
    0
    And no one ever thought that the meaning of all these Arab springs, winters, years, etc. not the arrival of democratic governments (read - pro-American), but simply the destabilization of the region? As the ancients said: divide and conquer. Americans do not need a consolidated society, neither hostile to them, nor loyal. Anyone who is loyal can quickly become hostile. But chaos, the presence of various opposing groups that are not ready to jointly confront the threat from the outside, that is what the "developed" West needs. While the tribes are fighting among themselves, they are busy with this struggle and you can do anything, especially using an impressive military force. The Americans, of course, have a lot of mistakes, but they are far from being idiots and are dangerous for us.
    1. COBOK
      COBOK 13 December 2012 23: 17
      0
      He discovered America ... The Ustans achieved what they wanted and okh ... marveled at the results. The question is whether they really were surprised or whether such a goal really stands - America is a continent, it’s hard to swim to it, but Russia is close and just one eccentric (with a capital M) is enough to send a horde of stupid fans to us, and here we have guest workers of a certain sense in bulk (brought in) ...
  19. 1goose3
    1goose3 13 December 2012 19: 55
    0
    At the first stage, it is proposed to focus on using the released decay energy, directing it in the right direction

    Here, one would not yawn, so that this channel is not directed to our fields.
  20. Kibl
    Kibl 13 December 2012 20: 23
    0
    Amersa-diapers act on the principle of the Jesuits "the nastier, the better", the country is a parasite! Something that the Al Qaeda branch of the CIA hasn't made a rustle for a long time there, that GA planes in the states were transferred or skyscrapers all fell on their own?
  21. david210512
    david210512 14 December 2012 01: 25
    0
    US terrorists number 1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  22. ADEQUATE
    ADEQUATE 14 December 2012 02: 45
    -2
    The USA is a great country, only not very smart people rule it !!!
    1. WW3
      WW3 14 December 2012 03: 06
      +3
      Quote: ADEQUATE
      USA is a great country

      Well, who would have doubted to hear this from a person with the avatar "I love USA!" feel lol
      Quote: ADEQUATE
      only not very smart people rule it

      Not so morons rule her and Obamkin is a Rothschild protege ... Rockefellers are trying to take power away ...
      American presidents are nothing more than “parsley” delivered by financial clans at the helm of power. The foundations of such a system were laid at the beginning of the XIX century, which later took shape in the refined mechanism of the financial monopoly in the form of the US Federal Reserve System (FRS). At its origins stood natives of the Rothschild family - fabulously rich and unprincipled businessmen.

      “The real weapons are not stored in the arsenals of brainless war ministers, the real weapons are stored in my bank,” James Rothschild boasted. His relative, Mayer Rothschild, the founder of the famous clan of bankers, said: "Let me manage the state’s money, and I don’t care about who creates its laws, and the laws of that state themselves."

      This phrase, like no other, describes the entire activity of the most famous family in the history of world business - the Rothschild family. For the third century, their capital has been dictating to the world.

      Once the 20th President of the United States, James Garfield, said: “Anyone who controls the amount of money in any country is the absolute master of all industry and commerce. And, when you begin to understand that the whole system is very easily controlled in one way or another by several very powerful people at the top, you will understand how periods of inflation and depression arise. ” A few weeks after this statement, he was killed.
    2. kostyan77708
      kostyan77708 14 December 2012 07: 34
      +1
      there is not a great dick there, a stupid country of thieves, villains and murderers ... Russia is a great country with a long history!
      1. ADEQUATE
        ADEQUATE 14 December 2012 09: 58
        -2
        If America is such, then why is it the richest country in the world and why does everyone want to go there ????
  23. Magadan
    Magadan 14 December 2012 05: 17
    0
    Quote: TUNISIA
    For some reason, I always thought that everything that is done by the Americans in the geopolitical arena is planned to the smallest detail and pursues a global goal for the United States in the medium term. As a result, statements such as in this article convince me more and more that there are no normal, healthy people in the US leadership and have not existed for a long time

    Not in this case. The fact is that people from the USA, who are doing all this, do not give a damn about the USA itself. And these people are the true masters of the United States. They shot all the normal US presidents, who wanted to get out of control. Consider me, if you will, a conspiracy theorist.
  24. Averias
    Averias 14 December 2012 07: 27
    0
    The artificially fueled excitement about Islamic extremism, the idea of ​​a Great Caliphate - so actively curated by the United States and its European puppets, is bearing fruit. When so many people, countries and means are involved in troubles, it is always obvious that something will go wrong. This is an example of the confrontation between the United States and the USSR in Afghanistan (the militants were taught and armed on their heads). And now, these are Middle Eastern conflicts such as: the Arab spring, overseeing terrorist groups, cash flows to "rebels" read to bandits of all stripes. Support of Qatari and Saudi sheikhs in the idea of ​​the Caliphate. This all led to what we are now seeing in the geopolitical arena. As the military say, to capture this one thing, but to keep it another. The obvious fact is that everything is out of control. But the United States, as always, in its role, they still continue to look for someone to blame. At least they are not. Hence the Nobel Prize for the European Union for the cause of peace, Obama. And of course there is Russia, you can always say that we are to blame for everything, and also China. The prostitute rulers of the former republics of the USSR are behaving appropriately. They are like in a joke - and eat a fish and ......... sit down. And we endure, we try to come to an agreement, because, no matter how they revile us, we perfectly understand that the use of force will lead to chaos. The very chaos that the United States is striving for. After all, it is clear that the idea of ​​world domination does not give rest to the United States, and the fact that it has long eluded them, and is only in words and in fevered minds - they will never admit this. And the internal problems of the United States are such that it is easier for them to organize wars for a long time. And where and with whom - it doesn't matter. The important thing is that while there is a war, the dollar is in demand.
  25. GOLUBENKO
    GOLUBENKO 14 December 2012 10: 13
    +1
    ADEQUATE
    If America is such, then why is it the richest country in the world and why does everyone want to go there ????

    Smiled. laughing
    The richest country now is China. hi
    America is in debt like silk, how many trillions of public debt are now? stop
    And who are these "everybody wants to leave"?
    Who wanted to leave, who wants "suitcase-airport-America", and the rest of the people on the device spun your USA and don’t get this gadyushnik for free. am
    1. ADEQUATE
      ADEQUATE 14 December 2012 10: 31
      0
      GOLUBENKO

      Well, yes, you weren’t there, so everything is clear, you just hate this country and you can understand, the influence of this site and education make themselves felt !!!! laughing
  26. Bars90
    Bars90 15 December 2012 15: 42
    0
    Russia is conducting a normal, non-aggressive policy ... What kind of protests against the Syrian people are they talking about ?! Syrian people with Turkish passports and Italian badges ... What actions have we committed to gather the militia against. The United States openly organizes seminars where it discusses how to start the mechanism of the revolution. Openly expresses thoughts about future goals in the style of "red terror". This is inconceivable! And after that, we are accused of all sins, and almost a jihat is declared. On the hands of the American secret government, there is so much blood of civilians and its young soldiers that it would be enough for an entire red lake. For them, it's like playing Monopoly. Someday they will finish badly ... They are conquered by fate.