The Russian senator called the transfer of three more regions of Ukraine to Russia as the basis for starting a dialogue

The transfer of three more regions of Ukraine to Russia may be the basis for the start of negotiations between Moscow and Kyiv. This was stated by a member of the committee on international affairs of the Federation Council Sergei Tsekov.

Speaking about the possibility of negotiations with Ukraine, the senator noted that the transfer of Nikolaev, Kharkov and Odessa regions to Russia could become the basis for negotiations. Except Kherson and Zaporozhye, which are already Russian regions. At the same time, no one removed the tasks of demilitarization, denazification, etc. from the agenda.

This can be a starting point for negotiations. At the same time, demilitarization, denazification, neutral status are not removed from the agenda. When they are ready for this, then they will offer negotiations.

Tsekov said.

On the other hand, the senator doubted that the Kiev regime would go for the loss of territories and peace negotiations with Russia. Zelensky bluntly stated that he did not plan any contacts with Moscow. In Kyiv, they are ready for negotiations, but only from a position of strength and only about the surrender of Russia. In Ukraine, they have already stated that when they "win", Russia will pay reparations, extradite all "war criminals" and give up its territories to create a "no man's land". One hundred kilometers is enough for this.

The American and European sponsors of the regime will not let Kyiv sit down at the negotiating table. In the West, they sleep and see how Ukraine crushes Russia. But even if it just weakens, then it will be good. Zelensky must work out the funds invested in him, which means that Ukrainian soldiers with their lives will achieve victory for Washington and Brussels.

By the way, the Kremlin also does not seek dialogue with Kiev, in Ukraine there is no one to talk to and nothing to talk about.

Comments

[Mavrikiy]

This can be a starting point for negotiations. At the same time, demilitarization, denazification, neutral status are not removed from the agenda. When they are ready for this, then they will offer negotiations.

Peck, peck and peck .... then the negotiations. But Nazism will not allow them to reason.

[The black]

All Ukraine must be cleared of the Nazis....

[guild]

This can be a starting point for negotiations.

The line Odessa-Kiev-Kharkov, this is the minimum .. And the maximum is the border of Poland and there the Germans and the Poles are arguing Give the Germans everything that Stalin gave Poland (Russia is the legal successor of the USSR)
Well, there is a special conversation with the Baltic states and Finland, after Alaska, etc.
How did I fantasize))))
And yes, since Germany has not fulfilled its obligations to non-proliferation of NATO and not to fight against Russia !!!!
Return the GDR and 400 thousand grouping near Berlin !!!
And pay compensation to every soldier and relatives who were killed and whose graves were desecrated .. Israel stop paying and return all payments !!!

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote from grem

This can be a starting point for negotiations.

The line Odessa-Kiev-Kharkov, this is the minimum .. And the maximum is the border of Poland and there the Germans and the Poles are arguing Give the Germans everything that Stalin gave Poland (Russia is the legal successor of the USSR)
Well, there is a special conversation with the Baltic states and Finland, after Alaska, etc.
How did I fantasize))))
And yes, since Germany has not fulfilled its obligations to non-proliferation of NATO and not to fight against Russia !!!!
Return the GDR and 400 thousand grouping near Berlin !!!
And pay compensation to every soldier and relatives who were killed and whose graves were desecrated .. Israel stop paying and return all payments !!!

[Pravodel]

Line Odessa-Kiev-Kharkov, this is the minimum ..

I completely agree. Odessa - Kiev - Kharkov, this is the minimum, but do not forget about the Sumy, Chernihiv and Vinitsa regions - our access to Transnistria ... And in the limit: drive the bastards to the Polish border and return them to the Poles, like the Poles themselves to us after 1945 expelled all Westerners and Bandera ...

[Thrifty]

Meehan, you got caught when you wrote that Israel needs to return reparations

[Herman 4223]

All Ukraine must be cleared of the Nazis....

Probably just not from the Nazis, but from American servants. Now their owner is overseas.

[fruc]

the Kremlin also does not seek dialogue with Kiev, in Ukraine there is no one to talk to and nothing to talk about.

So far there is nothing to say. Only when "famous characters" disappear in Ukraine will it be possible to talk about some kind of dialogue. So far it's blah blah blah.

[AAK]

It won’t work all, but Tsekov’s proposals are also insufficient, we must not forget about those territories that were occupied by us in the initial period of the NMD until the first “agreement”, in addition, it is necessary to secure at least half of the southern border of Belarus. Therefore, only my opinion, the territories of Volyn, Rivne, Khmelnitsky, Ternopil, Lvov, Chernivtsi and Transcarpathian regions are definitely not needed as part of Russia, let Poland, Hungary, Romania and Slovakia divide among themselves ... the historically established Bandera and Uniates did not surrender to us from the word completely...

[AAK]

Yes, I forgot about Ivano-Frankivsk - the former Stanislav region ...

[Carmela]

Volyn, Rivne and Khmelnytsky regions return to Belarus. There are nuclear power plants there. Do not give them to Poland.

[MBRSS]

let Poland, Hungary, Romania and Slovakia divide among themselves ..

no need to scatter Russian lands. If they go to Europe, they are irrevocable for us. Better let there be a buffer zone between us and anti-Russian Poland. Most likely, this will be the case in the end.

[rotkiv04]

Quote: Black

All Ukraine must be cleared of the Nazis....

there should be no more outskirts at all, like the outskirts, Little Russians at best

[Silver99]

The West fell into the information trap set by Ukraine, they firmly believed that if Ukraine was given weapons, it would be able to defeat Russia, but all this is nonsense. Yes, the conflict will be protracted, but Russia cannot be defeated on the battlefield. Awareness in the West slowly, but will come.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Thought, in general, true, but the independence of Ukraine should not be overestimated.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote from Silver99

The West fell into the information trap set by Ukraine, they firmly believed that if Ukraine was given weapons, it would be able to defeat Russia, but all this is nonsense. Yes, the conflict will be protracted, but Russia cannot be defeated on the battlefield. Awareness in the West slowly, but will come.

Win? In the sense of inflicting a full-fledged military defeat? No, there are no such fools in the West. But to arrange Vietnam for you, this is quite within their power.

[Yura]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

But to arrange Vietnam for you, this is quite within their power.

You are mistaken Aaron, strongly. In a very short time, the US and the West will be preoccupied exclusively with themselves and their own problems.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Jura

Quote: Aron Zaavi

But to arrange Vietnam for you, this is quite within their power.

You are mistaken Aaron, strongly. In a very short time, the US and the West will be preoccupied exclusively with themselves and their own problems.

Maybe I'm wrong, but you're right. Here on the forum everyone plays military analytics with a minimum of available information.

[Sith]

Quote: Mavrikiy

This can be a starting point for negotiations. At the same time, demilitarization, denazification, neutral status are not removed from the agenda. When they are ready for this, then they will offer negotiations.

Peck, peck and peck .... then the negotiations. But Nazism will not allow them to reason.

Pound, peck and peck ... until the rest give out those whom we need and lay down their arms

[guild]

Quote from Sith

Pound, peck and peck ... until the rest give out those whom we need and lay down their arms

Only this way .. It was like that in the Caucasus, now what kind of silk terrorists have strangled all their terrorists .. And they realized that Russia has Strength and truth, family values ​​​​and freedom of religion and national culture !!!!

[kromer]

Quote from grem

Only this way .. It was like that in the Caucasus, now what kind of silk terrorists have strangled all their terrorists .. And they realized that Russia has Strength and truth, family values ​​​​and freedom of religion and national culture !!!!

We did not really strangle anything in the Caucasus. Look at the fighters of Akhmat. They are always with the flags of Chechnya on their uniforms and you rarely see a duplicate flag of the Russian Federation there. Considering that the population of Chechnya is growing exponentially, and the demographics of the Russian ethnic group is falling, in at least 10 years we will get another problem of the Caucasus.

[Egeny]

to start negotiations between Moscow and Kyiv ...

What negotiations, with whom? And this "person" from the Federation Council is going to sit at the same table with a drug addict clown?
We have already "agreed" to Kakhovka, the Belgorod region is being bombed, and this one ...
Until the outskirts are cleared of the proteges of the State Department ... it’s just a pity that the Slavs are dying

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

The variant proposed by Tsekov is in every way better than negotiations, which, as it were, do not exist, but as a result of which "grain deals" and "gestures of good will" appear.

[Dingo]

And this "person" from the Federation Council is going to sit at the same table with a drug addict clown?

Evgenia, let me guess from which party this "individual" is? "ER"?

[rotmistr60]

may be the basis for the start of negotiations between Moscow and Kyiv.

With whom to talk? With those who seek to destroy you, strike deep into the territory of Russia, commit sabotage and terrorist attacks? Isn't it time for individual senators, deputies, heads of regions to temper their "peacekeeping" ardor. Before we talked at one time over the "Minsk" and not so long ago in Turkey, which only made ourselves unnecessary problems. But just in case, the senator covered himself one place

At the same time, demilitarization, denazification, and neutral status are not removed from the agenda.

And how will the senator solve these problems during the negotiations? To ask Ukraine about this - will you guys disarm please and destroy your Natsiks?

[guild]

Quote: rotmistr60

With whom to talk?

Well, with him...

It's a joke, of course, but anything is possible.

[Herman 4223]

No, this person is well-versed and not, it is dangerous to negotiate with such

[guild]

Quote: Herman 4223

No, this person is well-versed and not, it is dangerous to negotiate with such

Dangerous .. There is no one to talk to. Behind them are the Zionist financial circles and moneylenders!
The most dangerous thing is if they agree and decide to invest their assets in Russia And we will turn into Vanglo-Saxons hehe! Kidding ..
These people know that Russians are unpredictable and can remember everything about how they financed fascist regimes, etc. ..
Stalin knew this !!!!!
PS now they again want to get to the KGB archives .. There are a lot of things there .. Collected all over the world !!! And the attacks of their adherents on the KGB buildings are understandable in the 90s, etc.
All saved!!!!

[Tryams]

Diman's competitor has grown up, or a student.
Another populist is a huckster. What does he justify? Or just open your mouth? where he climbs at all, it's not his authority.

I really hope that in the next convocation, the inhabitants of the Crimean region will already begin to choose someone normal, the best of themselves, and not Tsekov or Kovitidi balabolina - Ukrainian heritage.

[Egeny]

And such balabols are sitting in the Federation Council, where is Valya looking?
Or maybe he is not Tsekov, but Zekov?

[Bully]

And such balabols sit in the Federation Council

Why such naivete? Through the mouths of all these minor characters, the supreme power voices its ideas, trying to probe the response. Moreover, please note that the stakes began to rise after the first failures of the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

[Egeny]

My dear, I draw your attention, I have never been naive.
And it seems that the "supreme power" did not caress you, ... but you wanted it so much, didn't you.)
I sympathize, plus, no thanks.)
By the way, do you only play on the stock exchange?

[Dingo]

And such balabols are sitting in the Federation Council, where is Valya looking?

When Bastrykin "and his comrades" came for the thief from the Federation Council and he wanted to run away, Valya stopped him with an "icy" look...
During interrogation in the UK, the thief asked for an interpreter, because. "I do not fully know the Russian language" (literally). What issues did he solve, what laws did he sign without knowing the Russian language? Do you think there are few of them?
"The fact that you are free is not your merit. This is our flaw ...". (Specific humor).

[Egeny]

Victor, hello, I am aware of these events. The Federation Council is like a pantheon, only in the "(temple) to all the gods", far from the gods sit.
Humor is appreciated.)

[Tryams]

Matvienko cannot do anything, she has no rights, they are people's representatives. And no one will do anything, including Putin. Only the subjects themselves.

From each subject, 2 senators - from the legislative and from the executive branch.
Legislative - this is the election of deputies to the local parliament. Often they are also determined with the executive (team. We do not always have direct elections for the head of the region, depending on the Charter or the local Constitution).
Those. what was chosen in the region, then this circle chooses representatives in the Federation Council.

Only a systematic approach of the population of the region to elections and the cultivation of local authorities can be a pill. Well, as in Tatarstan, for example: high turnout and acc. fierce competition (where the population really studies candidates, puts itself forward, asks questions, is not lazy, in general), as a result, everything is ok at all levels. As a result, we don’t hear any gossip from representatives of the region, and as a result, the region is in the Top in terms of efficiency.
And only so. Without revolutions, stupidly, it's time for the country to get smarter%)

[Egeny]

Matvienko can't do anything

I disagree, Valya could if she wanted to. Again, the media is there.
It's time for the authorities to get smarter, here you are right.

[Sergei Fonov]

Tsekov has always put forward for public discussion only the opinion of the higher leadership, probably there is such an opinion in a certain part of the leadership, how much does this line correspond to the opinion of the President? We'll see soon.

[Tryams]

Quote: sergey backgrounds

Tsekov has always put forward for public discussion only the opinion of the higher leadership, probably there is such an opinion in a certain part of the leadership, how much does this line correspond to the opinion of the President? We'll see soon.

okay, tactics (although who is a senator in general, this is a regional, not a chairman of the Federation Council), but no, he just opens his mouth, look

On the other hand, the senator doubted that the Kiev regime would go for the loss of territories and peace negotiations with Russia.

well, i.e. he enumerated the fz of which he is sitting, and we - listen and think that we don’t understand what they forgot there.

Our president is aware of what U-fascism is, and that a cancerous tumor cannot be left untreated - it will grow with renewed vigor, even 0,001% of the affected cells of the body will be enough for it. And what is it like to abandon history and forget May 9, we ourselves will become U-2.

Well, purely economically, here sometimes I see versions "along the Dnieper", I want to ask people - will we guard the dams in half?)) The whole cascade will collapse. And then - they are the shunting capacities for the whole country - i.e. you don’t even have to watch your hands - everything is there.

[Tryams]

And, in, Peskov has already appeared in the next topic. There is nothing there about any individual regions, there is even no talk of negotiations. So he is a balabolina%)

[Sergei Fonov]

Tsekov did not always predict the development of events, so in 2014, before the referendum, he said that Putin would not escalate and Crimea would remain part of Ukraine, so his reasoning is simply a need to once again remind through the media his position of supporting the NWO.

[Tryams]

Tsekov has always submitted for public discussion ONLY the opinion of the senior leadership

Tsekov did not always foresee the development of events

this is, of course, a contradiction in everything. OK

We will still have many such people who do not understand what a federation is and who, on behalf of the whole people in general, is engaged in foreign affairs, people of a more strategic mindset. And what's the useless bullshit to suffer, and that they just need to learn how to deal with their subjects qualitatively, and not replace it with all sorts of wow.

Otherwise, at HIS suggestion (it is his) there will be no water for agriculture in Crimea, simply because the cascade is under NATO control. Well, a wonderful future with UAVs and water, and plus long-range combat is also provided at any time. What is the loss for ext. tourism and capital outflow of several bridges per year, i.e. reducing your personal salary and pension.
Re-elect))

[Sergei Fonov]

If you pull out excerpts from other comments, then you can draw other conclusions, but 2 comments talk about 2014, the first about 2023, these are different time periods.

[Sergei Fonov]

Tryams, you merged two comments into one. This is not my contradiction, you just made the wrong logical conclusion. re-elect??

[sgrabik]

This is apparently the liberals' wishlist, only they can come up with such ridiculous thoughtless stupidity.

[Pavel_Sveshnikov]

Does he have dementia? What are the negotiations? With whom? About what? Only complete surrender! Otherwise, there will be the same eggs again and even in the same profile for decades to come. It is necessary to end the war once and for all, and not lay the grounds for war for future generations.

[K-50]

The Russian senator called the transfer of three more regions of Ukraine to Russia as the basis for starting a dialogue

What nonsense!
One might think that Russia started the NWO with the aim of capturing some areas 404, and not overthrowing the fascist regime and ensuring its own security.
Security can be ensured only after the complete defeat and liquidation of the fascist state and its politicians.
Leaving part 404 not denazified, we leave the "roots" of this infection and the chance for a relapse for it.
Do we need it so that later our grandchildren-great-grandchildren can go and restore order there? Wouldn't it be better to finish what our grandfathers and great-grandfathers did not finish 80 years ago?

[Ezekiel 25-17]

The transfer to Russian jurisdiction of Odessa, Nikolaev and Kharkov, as well as Sumy, Poltava, Krivoy Rog, Chernihiv regions should be the starting position for Russia to sit down at the negotiating table; in addition, the Volyn, Rivne and Zhytomyr regions should become part of the Union State, and of course Kyiv.

[Bully]

should be the starting point for Russia to sit down at the negotiating table

In order to dictate your will, you must have serious arguments. For example, after the brilliant conduct of the Anadyr operation, the USSR could demand that the United States remove missiles from Turkey and forget about militaristic plans to seize the island of Freedom.
Without arguments, these claims look like baby talk

[kill the fascist]

Why were the VO satels alarmed? In my opinion, the senator normally throws, suitable trolling. Banderogeys, of course, will not appreciate such a generous offer, but in vain :)

[Amateur]

Finally, from one of the leaders of the country there were concrete proposals for negotiations with the Americans and NATO on ending the war.
Although for now, unfortunately, the Kremlin and the Foreign Ministry, like Belarusian partisans under interrogation by the Gestapo, continue the mantra: "Everything is going according to plan, we are ready for negotiations" (that's just what the negotiations have not yet come up with).

[Al manah]

Well, let's assume that trolling is credited. It is clear that pig dogs will not go for it from the word at all, even when the mentioned regions are already under our control, but it is necessary to tease the enemy verbally, let them jump higher and spit harder ...

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Al Manah

Well, let's assume that trolling is credited. It is clear that pig dogs will not go for it from the word at all, even when the mentioned regions are already under our control, but it is necessary to tease the enemy verbally, let them jump higher and spit harder ...

When is the most interesting question today.

[Konnick]

On the other hand, the senator doubted that the Kiev regime would go for the loss of territories and peace negotiations with Russia. Zelensky bluntly stated that he did not plan any contacts with Moscow.

Well, there’s nothing to talk about, as the peasant didn’t stop dyeing his hair

[thepuppeteer]

Time will tell, But there are a lot of bad apples among them..

[jaroff]

I propose to return to the borders of the Republic of Ingushetia at the time of August 1, 1914. This is only on the territory of the so-called. Ukraine. The remaining territories of the Republic of Ingushetia will require separate decisions

[runway-1]

The Russian senator called the transfer of three more regions of Ukraine to Russia as the basis for starting a dialogue

Another political troll...

[decimalegio]

such a request was answered by someone in the past "Μολὼν λαβέ"

[VladimirNET]

Quote: Mavrikiy

The Russian senator called the transfer of three more regions of Ukraine to Russia as the basis for starting a dialogue

Even if - to join the full Zaporozhye and Kherson, Ukraine will still have 20 regions ...
Are we going to leave her (20-3)/20 = 85% of the territory - for further wars with us? You can say anything, but joining ALL of this Bandera ukry is the only option, there are simply no others.

Therefore, even the very idea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXba "negotiable" - draws on betrayal.

[Ezekiel 25-17]

Quote: Bully

should be the starting point for Russia to sit down at the negotiating table

In order to dictate your will, you must have serious arguments. For example, after the brilliant conduct of the Anadyr operation, the USSR could demand that the United States remove missiles from Turkey and forget about militaristic plans to seize the island of Freedom.
Without arguments, these claims look like baby talk

Making everyone do it is not a big problem: I will not write here what and how, because only the President of Russia V.V. Putin can give an order.

[peter mechkaev]

It is unlikely that while the pro-Western junta is in power, this is impossible. Until the destruction of Ukrainian fascism, negotiations are not real.

[AdAstra]

Yet they are setting the stage for negotiators.

[Mikhail Maslov]

And what kind of character is this? And he so famously disposes of the "ownerly" lands. Something the power in the Kremlin has lost reality. The state of Ukraine for all crimes should disappear from the map of the World. Negotiations? With whom? criminals. And after that, sit down for some kind of negotiations, but for one statement about the negotiations you need to attract, as for discrediting the NWO or remove the status and plant.

[sgrabik]

I completely agree that there cannot and should not be any negotiations with the Nazi criminal Bandera regime, only exclusively on unconditional surrender, complete disarmament of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the resignation of their powers!!!

[Krasavchag2]

Well, said Syrozha Tsekov for the region. And what ? Who is Syrozha and what depends on him? Regularly pressing a button and signing a payroll?

[Krilion]

Quote: Krasavcheg2

Well, said Syrozha Tsekov for the region. And what ? Who is Syrozha and what depends on him? Regularly pressing a button and signing a payroll?

who are you? you don’t understand what was said not for you, not for Russians and not even for Ukrainians .. it was said for the West, which will decide what exactly Ukraine should give (at least) in order to survive as a subject .. well, then how the suit will trample ..

[ShDE]

From everywhere, people who wanted to talk came out. Did they give them a command? All by name on a pencil

[MBRSS]

The senator chose the right areas! I would also add Krivoy Rog.

[sgrabik]

This is a very strange statement, but what about the Dnipropetrovsk region, we are going to leave it to Ukraine, and the Sumy and Chernihiv regions, they are also in close proximity to our border, and indeed, how can you negotiate anything with this criminal, Nazi, puppet regime, all agreements with them will not be worth a damn, we have all been convinced of this more than once, in a few years the West will pump them up with weapons again, make a hotbed of terrorism and subversive activities against Russia in the remaining territory of Ukraine, and everything will be repeated again, so it is simply impossible to stop halfway, it is necessary to destroy this pro-Western regime hostile to us completely, that, really, some of our deputies and senators still do not understand how such proposals can be called an absurd joke or an extremely unsuccessful and short-sighted proposal for PR their own ambitions???