The West called the new criteria for the "success" of the Ukrainian army in the war with Russia

The exit of the Ukrainian army to the borders of 2022 will be considered the success of the counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the priorities of the Western allies of Kyiv began to shift. According to the Western press, neither in the United States nor in Europe, they no longer believe in reaching the 1991 borders.

So far, the West has not figured out what to consider the "success" of the counter-offensive of the Ukrainian army, since Kyiv voices some conditions, the United States - others, and some European countries - even third ones. At the same time, most Western military experts agree that reaching the borders before the start of the Russian special military operation would be an "undoubted success" for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Another "success" the Americans call the infliction of such a strike on Russia that will make Moscow think about continuing the special operation. Now the West agrees to inflicting even a reputational defeat on Russia.

But the return of the territories of Crimea and the republics of Donbass in the West is already considered unrealistic, despite the statements of Zelensky, who promised to "liberate" the entire east of Ukraine and the Crimean peninsula. And in general, the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine that has begun will show what to expect from Ukraine in the future and how to sponsor it.

According to the forecasts of the special services, at present Kyiv can win a number of victories that will show the seriousness of the intentions of the Kyiv regime. For example, the capture of the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant would not only be a strategic victory for Ukraine, but also a symbolic one, sharply raising the stakes of Kyiv. And the exit of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the Sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbAzov with the cutting of the land route to the Crimea, in general, would have been declared almost a "complete victory" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

In addition to confirming the seriousness of Zelensky’s intentions to “return” the territories of Ukraine, the victories of the Armed Forces of Ukraine should show the correctness of the plans of the United States and Europe to provide military assistance to Kyiv. Otherwise, all costs go down the drain, and the arsenals remain empty.

At the same time, the West still hopes that Moscow will make a strategic mistake that will allow the Armed Forces of Ukraine to win an unconditional victory. Judging by what is happening now at the front, it will be very difficult to achieve victory for the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Comments

[Anarchist]

In fact, Ze with funny curators really hoped for last year's success. When large territories were captured by small forces of the RF Armed Forces. But due to the huge superiority of the APU in manpower, it was not possible to keep these territories. SVO started illiterately.
But now the situation has changed dramatically.

[Thrifty]

If only they would not push the Kremlin into all kinds of behind-the-scenes negotiations, to temporarily stop hostilities, to "regroup" from waste from combat positions ....

[Boycott]

If only they would not push the Kremlin into all sorts of behind-the-scenes negotiations

Even in the Kremlin, after the self-disclosures of Merkel, Olanda and Poroshenko about the Minsk agreements, they realized that it was impossible to negotiate with the West! Still deceived. Their guarantees are worth nothing at all.
PS smiled: the ato-corrector replaced Poroshenko with a pig.

[Stoler]

Yes Yes. And we are extending the grain deal (even after the blown up ammonia)

[Skobaristan]

Extension of the deal before or after the explosion of the ammonia pipeline?

[Glagol1]

It has changed in the sense that we are now on the defensive, and they are trying to attack. It is easier to defend and less forces are needed. If they then go on the defensive, breaking off their teeth, we still won’t be able to attack - in chess this is called zugzwang. The only thing that definitely plays in our favor is that we can seriously nightmare them to the entire depth of their territory, and they - to 100-300 km. True, the inhabitants of the south of Russia and this is enough. The Nazis are beating the civilians.

[Rumata]

Zadolbali.
There can be only two outcomes of this bulda.
1. The unconditional victory of the Russian Federation and the elimination of the sub-state of the UA.
2. World nuclear war and the whole world is in ruins. We're in heaven, they'll just die.

[rotmistr60]

reaching the borders before the start of the Russian special military operation would be an "undoubted success" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine ... And the exit of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the Sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbAzov with the cutting of the land route to Crimea would generally be declared almost a "complete victory" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

If only, if only... The West is urgently inventing magic wands to justify its investments in Kyiv. For a week now, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have been losing people and equipment trying to break through our defenses, and the West is all about its own - "victory" is close. And you haven’t thought about going to Moscow yet, why is the Sea of ​​\u2022b\uXNUMXbAzov and the borders for February XNUMX minuscule?

[Ezekiel 25-17]

Nazi Ukraine, as a state, must cease to exist, within the boundaries of 1991; the best option for us is a kind of stump, consisting of four regions along the right bank of the Dnieper: Kyiv (part of it) Vinnitsa, Khmelnitsky and part of the Cherkasy region.

[Alebedev]

A small nuclear strike would remove all disputes.

[bk0010]

Quote: Alebedev

A small nuclear strike would remove all disputes.

Nothing like this. Nuclear escalation on a scale smaller than World War III does not make sense.

[9PA]

If the dashing army says
Throw you Rus alive Paradise
I'll say no to Paradise
Can I take Saxons prisoner

[Boycott]

Can I take Saxons prisoner

I do not advise. Ask in the search: Hollywood stars without makeup. If the nerves are strong.

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote: BoyCat

I do not advise. Ask in the search: Hollywood stars without makeup. If the nerves are strong.

No... don't tell me. Germans are not toothy mares like Finns or Englishwomen. I lived in Leipzig for several years - this is, in fact, the most that neither is Saxony. Very, very there are cuties

[BMP-2]

Wake up, Eugene. They are terrible!

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: 9PA

If the dashing army says
Throw you Rus alive Paradise
I'll say no to Paradise
Can I take Saxons prisoner

And you can without captivity and Anglo-Saxons:
If someone in Europe says:
“Throw you Russia, live in paradise!”
I'll say: "Go you" past ",
Fucking smartass, motherfucker!"

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote: ROSS 42

If someone in Europe says:
“Throw you Russia, live in paradise!”
I'll say: "Go you" past ",
Fucking smartass, motherfucker!"

I completely agree ... but about where to go - then another rhyme is more suitable for the word Europe than "past"

[sub307]

Quote: Rumata

There can be only two outcomes of this bulda.
1. The unconditional victory of the Russian Federation and the elimination of the sub-state of the UA.
2. World nuclear war and the whole world is in ruins. We're in heaven, they'll just die.

And, if we proceed from the fact that the Anglo-Saxons, although they are bastards, but the "roof" is far from being "leaked" for everyone there, we can assume with a sufficient degree of certainty that option number 1 remains. Most likely there are no people who want to "fry on nuclear fire" ...

[mikh-korsakov]

I believe in the "seriousness of Zelensky's intentions." Convinced. But no one discusses, and therefore most likely does not know, our intentions and the likelihood of their implementation. So in the information field it looks like a one-sided game. And do we need it? Instead, endless complaints about the terrorism of Ukraine, but there is not even a hint - when at last their terrorism will be given so much that it ends and is replaced by a request for negotiations on their part.

[bk-sarmat]

and all we need to do is hit the bank and start a sabotage war in Europe ....

[vadim_ivanov]

Speak the truth! It is possible without banking, sabotage in Europe and the United States every other day, and the war will end very quickly

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: vadim_ivanov

It is possible without banking, sabotage in Europe and the United States every other day, and the war will end very quickly

Or just start shaking the islands in the North Sea ... They are one hell - not in the EU ...

[certero]

I would very much like to hear from our leadership what will be considered the success and victory of Russia? What are the goals of the operation that "will undoubtedly be achieved"?
And then the enemy has goals and objectives, but we don’t seem to have

[Bulrumeb]

Haven't you heard, still cautious, voices that what has already been achieved is already a great success and stop the NWO now - the Russian Federation is already in the black? It's hardly all that simple.

[Skobaristan]

And you can specifically, who and when is the most "cautious head". Tell? I want to listen or read.

[fruc]

certero
And then the enemy has goals and objectives, but we seem to have none ....

Everything is there, they were voiced.
The goals and objectives of the operation were clearly defined by Russian President Vladimir Putin.
The main goals of the operation:
1) The demilitarization of Ukraine, that is, the legally fixed status of Ukraine as a neutral state, on whose territory NATO strike missile systems directed at Russia will not be deployed, and Ukraine itself, having become neutral, will not pursue a policy of joining this Alliance. At the same time, it is important to note that Russia does not set the task of Ukraine joining the CSTO (essentially, a similar Alliance operating on a limited territory of a number of former Soviet republics).
2) Denazification of Ukraine, that is, giving the Russian language the constitutional status of the second state language and, in this regard, the abolition of all discriminatory laws adopted by the Parliament of Ukraine in the last eight years (after 2014) in relation to the Russian language and the Russian-speaking population.
3) Reach the borders of Donetsk and Lugansk regions. Before the start of the military operation, the people's republics of Donbass occupied only a part of the territories constitutionally assigned to the Donetsk and Lugansk regions.
The military operation on the territory of Ukraine was preceded by Russia’s proposal by the United States and NATO to conclude mutual security treaties providing for the non-proliferation of NATO to new territories (primarily Ukraine, as well as Georgia and Moldova) and the return of “NATO borders” in the east by 1997 - that is, the actual exit from NATO of the Baltic countries - Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia.

[BMP-2]

Yes, all this is expected and predictable: these Western thimblers will call any outcome "Ukraine's greatest success" - they get their salary for this. Well, this is precisely one of the most important components of the information war, when it does not matter what happened, but it is important how it is presented and how widely it is covered.

[Ross xnumx]

At the same time, the West still hopes that Moscow will make a strategic mistake.

Moscow's strategy should be the return of Russian lands (RI lands) to the Russian Federation.
All the mistakes of the Russian government will be expressed in the creation of territories within Russia, the rights and freedoms of which are violated by foreign states and Nazi regimes. Russia does not have to prove what is permitted by international law (forces), as the West does not do, led by its ideological leader in the person of Washington.
Sovereignty, if it is not recognized, let alone trampled, must be proved by all available means of nuclear and other persuasion. We have been living on this earth long enough to have our rights established by overseas "showers", whose history is written in the blood of the exterminated indigenous population.

[Ross xnumx]

According to the Western press, neither in the United States nor in Europe, they no longer believe in reaching the 1991 borders.

And in vain!!! Here are the borders:

[Neo-9947]

What are those? Walk, so walk!

True, there is no order in the "east" and with Kaliningrad, but I think the Japs and the Hans will not object if we leave ours to ourselves.

[Fedor Sokolov]

"At the same time, the West still hopes that Moscow will make a strategic mistake that will allow the Armed Forces of Ukraine to win an unconditional victory"
This has already happened more than once in the history of Russia, as a result, in one century the territory of the country was reduced twice at the beginning of the 20th century and at the end. The worst thing for our country is the betrayal of its leaders, such as the abdication of the king from the throne and the resignation of the president of the RSFSR.

[1erWahrheitsMinister_1984]

Es kann für diese "Sonderoperation" und den aktuell bereits laufenden Krieg gegen die NATO nur EIN ZIEL geben: Die vollständige Kontrolle durch die russische Föderation über das GESAMTE GEBIET der (ehemaligen !!!) Ukraine, bis zur heutigen, ukrainisch-polnischen G renze und in DIESEM PUNKT kann und darf es - koste es was es wolle - KEINE Kompromise geben; basta...!!!

Da Poland bereits jetzt als "Ukraine 2.0" hochgerüstet wird, um
sofort den nächsten US-Terror-Staat vor der Haustüre Russlands
zu erschaffen, benötigt Russland die gesamte bisherige Ukraine als
"Puffer-Zone", um in Zukunft mit Sicherheit zu erwartende Angriffe
der NATO und ihrer EU-Speichellecker erfolgreich und ohne Schaden
fur das russische Kernland mit ALLEN erforderlichen Mitteln und
sehr hart zurück zu schlagen...!!!

[rafat]

This "special operation" and the ongoing war against NATO can have ONLY ONE PURPOSE: Complete control of the Russian Federation over the ENTIRE TERRITORY of (former!!!) Ukraine, up to today's Ukrainian-Polish border and at THIS POINT, no matter what it costs , there can not and should not be any compromises; Basta...!!!

Since Poland is already being upgraded as "Ukraine 2.0" to
immediately next US terrorist state on Russia's doorstep
To create Russia, all previous Ukraine is needed as
"Buffer zone" for future attacks with confidence
NATO and their sycophants from the EU successfully and without prejudice
for the Russian hinterland with ALL the necessary means and
very hard to beat...!!! Well said, country Y should be a buffer, which it was.