Telegram channel: Ukrainian Armed Forces could launch two modernized S-200 missiles in Crimea, not Grom-2

The attempted missile strike on the territory of Crimea, which followed this morning, could have been carried out using modernized S-2 missiles rather than Grom-200 OTRK missiles, as previously stated. Crimean blogger Alexander Talipov reports this on his Telegram channel.

As you know, today the Armed Forces of Ukraine fired two ballistic missiles at the Crimean peninsula. One rocket was shot down by air defense systems of the RF Armed Forces in the area of ​​Cape Tarkhankut. Another missile was also shot down by air defense and fell into a field near Simferopol. Initially, the media stated that the Armed Forces of Ukraine used the Grom-2 operational-tactical complex to strike at Crimea. But Alexander Talipov, having studied the situation, put forward a different version.

According to my information, today the Armed Forces of Ukraine fired two upgraded S-200 unguided ballistic missiles in Crimea

Talipov emphasized in his Telegram channel.

According to the observer, the Soviet S-200 missiles were modernized with the participation of specialists from the North Atlantic Alliance. As a result, the Armed Forces of Ukraine ended up with unguided ballistic missiles with a range of 400 kilometers. Why could Ukrainian formations use S-200 missiles?

Talipov notes that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have at their disposal only two Grom-2 launchers and several missiles for them. In fact, Grom-2 is more of a PR stunt, the meaning of which is to demonstrate that the Kyiv regime has its own military production of missiles. In fact, Ukrainian specialists, with the help of Western engineers, are only finishing up Soviet weapons.

Such a situation, for example, is observed with Strizh unmanned aerial vehicles, and S-200 missiles are just another example, while their launch in the Crimea is a test of the capabilities of missiles after modernization in combat conditions, the observer believes.

Comments

[Alex_ekb]

Something I can’t believe in the S200, it’s liquid, you need to assemble it, refuel it, you need a technical division, then pile it up with TZM on the ground ...

[Enceladus]

To a mad dog, two villages are not a detour

[dmi.pris1]

Quite .. Swifts and Reisy were converted into attack UAVs, why not get confused with this system? There are specialists there and experience .. Tu154 they are "clear" "".

[Uncle_Misha]

Tu 154 was shot down as a result of retargeting the missile at a target with a larger EPR and, as a result, with a more powerful reflected signal. At least the Ukrainian pvoshniks told me so, though long before the NVO. In Syria, a Russian plane was shot down in a similar way.

[Comet]

Quote: Uncle_Misha

154 was shot down as a result of redirecting the missile to a target with a larger EPR and, as a result, with a more powerful reflected signal.

Ukrainian air defense officers told you nonsense.

[bayard]

Quote: Comet

Ukrainian air defense officers told you nonsense.

At those exercises, the S-300 division was supposed to shoot and the no-fly zone was declared under its affected area. But at the very last moment, instead of the S-300, they brought in the S-200. I spoke with the secretary of that S-300 division that was then supposed to shoot. This replacement was not explained to them. The consequences are known to all. History is muddy.

[Alex_ekb]

You can’t drag C300 instead of C200. It can't be "pulled" at all. That secretary never saw deployed at the C200 position

[KCA]

Flights and Swifts fly stupidly along the INS, just fill them with hexogen and that's all, especially if the flight is only there, without returning, besides, the fuel in these drones is not ampouled fuel and oxidizer, but in tanks, but it will gobble up the fuel tanks, UR100UTTX they took it for debts for gas in the same outskirts, they didn’t change the fuel, now the carriers of the Vanguards, but anti-aircraft missiles and ancient drones are not ICBMs, it’s easier to shoot at a training ground or use them as targets than to drain highly toxic fuel and dispose of, what they are at least somehow- then they fly, it is entirely the merit of military acceptance in the USSR

[IImonolitII]

In Asia and the Middle East, they were successfully remade, I think there were experts here too

[Uncle_Misha]

It’s not a problem to assemble, refuel and put on the launcher, there are graduates of Soviet air defense schools, old of course, but you won’t drink away your skill. The difficulty lies in how to make the rocket fly where it needs to, because it is controlled, or rather its GOS, from the reflected signal of the Russian Orthodox Church.

[Michael]

Here it is some kind of Soviet legacy. It still flies, though not where it should be.

[Gnefredov]

Show the pieces. There will be something to work with and draw conclusions.

[KCA]

How can an anti-aircraft missile guided by the reflected signal of a ground-based locator at a target be converted into a ballistic one? It's just to assemble a new missile, anti-aircraft missiles work on the ground, but not on a ballistic trajectory

[svp67]

Quote: KCA

anti-aircraft missiles work on the ground, but not on a ballistic trajectory

This is when they are anti-aircraft, and if you turn off the self-liquidator and launch it at a certain angle to the horizon, then what prevents it from flying along a ballistic trajectory? Nothing. Especially if you install a new steering control unit, in time. And as far as I know, the S-75, S-125 and S-300 complexes have the ability to strike at sea and ground targets.
In any case, in China and Iran, based on the S-75, they were adopted by the OTRK
Even our famous "Point" was created on the basis of the V-611 missile system of the M-11 "Storm" complex

[Uncle_Misha]

You are right, everything can be changed. But this will turn out to be a new rocket, the question is its effectiveness and price.

[svp67]

Quote: Uncle_Misha

the question is its effectiveness and price.

Well, the price, as I understand it, will be much lower than launching a new rocket, but what about efficiency? But who cares there now, they need a PR manager ...

[KCA]

How-be it is necessary to completely redo the GOS, in the old woman of 1967, who can do this? To tear out a completely tube seeker and insert a new one on microprocessors and laser gyroscopes? Yes, as far as I remember, only we, the USA and France, can make laser gyroscopes. The fact that the fuel has not changed for 340 years is this the norm? Where will such a pelvis fly? Khlys hollow with their air defense everything that is built nearby, but not Geranka or Caliber

[Uncle_Misha]

The rocket, and the whole complex is made on lamps, well, except for the digital computer. Theoretically, I think a rework is possible, the problem is different. The missiles have exceeded all possible storage periods several times. At the firing ranges, they shoot with old missiles taken off duty. Of course, and so, the question is where.

[Al manah]

Crimean blogger Alexander Talipov reports this on his Telegram channel.

Yes, this is a solid source.

[K-36]

Al Manah (Oleg) Yes, this is a solid source.
I didn’t “drive” a little, is this a joke?
If a blogger calls the rocket S-200 named S-200 , then this clearly indicates that he is a complete layman in the ZRV!

[Aristarkh Pasechnik]

You are right Sir, S-200 missiles were marked 5V21, 5V21B, 5V28, 5V28M. But this does not make sense for ordinary readers, the S-200 and that's all. Well, to replace the command control, there will be no problems, I think the launch can be done from the S-200 launch complex.

[thepuppeteer]

Telegram is the world's nr1 desinformation channel penetrated by all secured services and wannebe specialist and day dreamers
You can't trust nobody.. You need a good mental spam and virus protection..