Telegram channels: Armed Forces of Ukraine are preparing a 30-strong corps for a breakthrough towards Melitopol

Currently, in the north of the Zaporozhye region, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are forming a large army corps. This is reported by the Telegram channel "Ukraine.ru", referring to information from Turkish sources.

According to the plans of the Ukrainian command, an army corps of 30 thousand people will have to break through from the Orekhovsky direction towards Melitopol. As you know, this city has long been called one of the most likely targets for the upcoming counter-offensive of Ukrainian formations.

To strike in this direction, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are going to use at least 100-150 tanks, 300 artillery pieces and multiple launch rocket systems, from 500 to 1000 armored vehicles of various types. Minefields will be overcome with the help of manpower and equipment. The main goal of the Ukrainian command is to create a foothold, to which the Armed Forces of Ukraine expect to transfer a group of at least 50 militants.

Relatively small attacks and constant shelling from artillery pieces and MLRS, according to the source of the resource, serve to mask the main attack. When Ukraine embarks on such an offensive against Russian positions, it will indicate the maximum military effort it is undertaking. In the event that the counter-offensive fails, Ukraine will actually suffer a final military defeat.

If the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation wisely use their advantages, they will not only be able to defend the borders, but also inflict a crushing defeat on the Ukrainian formations, after which it will be possible to raise the question of the future of the Kiev regime.

Comments

[Murmur 55]

Fighting turns into a reality show like Dom-2, or every gopher in the field is an agronomist!

[Nexcom]

H+ has already been covered in the media ???
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[Machito]

It is necessary to mine all the way in order to mow more dill when clearing mines with the bodies of the attackers.

[digger]

There are new machines for remote mining Agriculture .. which have recently been publicized, so let the generals use it to the fullest. It can quickly sow mines right under the nose of the enemy.

[tsvetahaki]

from and let the generals use it to the fullest. It can quickly sow mines right under the nose of the enemy.

The big difference is to sow mines in front of the nose of the generals, or in front of the nose of the enemy ...
You can't get by with a couple of cars here ...

[aglet]

"There are new machines for remote mining Agriculture .. which have recently been publicized, so let the generals use it to the fullest"
Recently, so many things have been promoted that do not exist in nature. perhaps farming from those same 70%

[Alexga]

If the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation wisely use their advantages, they will not only be able to defend the borders, but also inflict a crushing defeat on the Ukrainian formations, after which it will be possible to raise the question of the future of the Kiev regime.

Indeed, in the media they make a show out of the war.

[Nexcom]

Duc capitalism - the media need traffic to their sites, views, ratings, etc.

[Orange Bigg]

We need massive strikes of the FAB / ODAB-500 on the places of concentration to prevent the possibility of the APU to attack.

[Oleg123219307]

There is a wonderful anecdote about "I have been collecting you ****** for 3 years on this ship" and you are FABs ...)))

[bayard]

Quote from Orange Bigg

We need massive FAB / ODAB-500 strikes at concentration points

The use of ODAB-250 is much more rational - more in one sortie on one carrier, approximately the same radius of destruction by fragments and high-explosive action with the FAB-500. Verified by comparative tests. But this is for infantry, marching columns and fortified areas.
But in armored vehicles, high-precision missiles used from helicopters and attack aircraft will be much more effective.

[Mikhail3]

Quote from Orange Bigg

We need massive strikes of the FAB / ODAB-500 on the places of concentration to prevent the possibility of the APU to attack.

It is a pity that the generals do not know this))
Everything will depend on the actual readiness.

[Legate]

To move such an armada you need a lot of fuel, ammunition and everything else. In short, in which case, either mediocrity or traitors should sit in the General Staff

[Thrifty]

There has been such a question on the tongue for a long time - we have about 18 self-propelled guns of the Coalition SV, and why not send half of them to war? In addition, if I don’t confuse anything, an initial batch of self-propelled guns D-400 was made several years ago. the same Coalition only in the form of a towed (monitor) gun. And why isn’t it at the front? Why isn’t it being made with might and main for counter-battery combat with a firing range of the same 70 kilometers? We have a solid technological reserve that is not embodied in finished products like the same D400!

[Oleg123219307]

Quote: Thrifty

There has been such a question on the tongue for a long time - we have about 18 self-propelled guns of the Coalition SV, and why not send half of them to war? In addition, if I don’t confuse anything, an initial batch of self-propelled guns D-400 was made several years ago. the same Coalition only in the form of a towed (monitor) gun. And why isn’t it at the front? Why isn’t it being made with might and main for counter-battery combat with a firing range of the same 70 kilometers? We have a solid technological reserve that is not embodied in finished products like the same D400!

And it is desirable to shoot them on video from 3 angles, indicate the location area, coordinates, and draw a target on top. They are at the front, they are not at the front - we do not know for sure about that. And you don't need to. Artillery with a good range is good when the enemy thinks that it is not there and pushes tasty targets in sufficient numbers into its reach. But the UAV and the Himars do not purposefully hunt for it. We all played a little here in telegrams, can't you find the war? Information coverage is important, but the results at the front and the lives of the guys are much more important.

[megadeth]

The shells there are special .... https://topwar.ru/214587-prosim-otpravit-v-zonu-specoperacii-sau-koalicija-sv-a-streljat-iz-nee-chem-budem.html/

[bayard]

Quote: Thrifty

-we have about 18 self-propelled guns of the Coalition of the SV, and why not send half of them to the war?

The main problem with these guns is the SHELL. These projectiles have special aerodynamics, a special manufacturing technology, and their production requires new, specially for them, production lines.
So, in the conditions of the depletion of the previous stocks of shells, first of all, they launched / are launching the release of shells for the existing types of guns. For the production of shells for the "Coalition", it is preferable to create / re-profile a separate production, because there special quality control is required, and compliance with the technical process.

Quote: Thrifty

In addition, if I don’t confuse anything, an initial batch of self-propelled guns D-400 was made a few years ago. This is the same Coalition only in the form of a towed (monitor) gun.

If the D-400 is a fire monitor, then it is by no means an self-propelled gun.
I think that it is irrational to make a towed gun of this class. Such a weapon should be made in the version of the wheeled self-propelled guns of the "Cabriolet" type - a la the French "Caesar". With a mandatory armored cab for the whole calculation. It’s better not to overdo it with an automatic loader, make it like the French have a manipulator + rammer, but with a guidance system you should not simplify in any way. Such self-propelled guns will be several times cheaper than a turret self-propelled guns on a tracked chassis, and will be able to become quite mass-produced, convenient in production, maintenance and combat use from long distances.
"Coalition-SV" is best launched into a series on a seven-roller chassis - from the self-propelled guns "Malka" or the "Armata" T-15 platform (with front-mounted MTO).
At the moment, it looks like just such a chassis is being prepared for it.

Quote: Thrifty

D-400. This is the same Coalition only in the form of a towed (monitor) gun. Why isn't she at the front?

I think because they are simply not available (enough), and there are no shells for them yet.
For the sake of cash shells, not only the D-20, but also the D-1 was returned to service, even a certain number of T-55 tanks were pulled up for use as fire support as self-propelled guns (also for the sake of a large number of shells for them in warehouses), why be surprised? By the way, I would recommend raising the last (T-55) from storage of 200 - 300 pieces, and as such self-propelled guns for fire support of infantry units, saturate battle formations with them for the sake of fire density.
And the "Coalition-SV" and its version in the "Cabriolet" configuration are needed today like air. Let's hope that they will appear, and in commercial quantities.

[Ross xnumx]

Someone will cut off the electricity for them so that they begin to die without water, and everything is rotten in such heat?

[parabyd]

Earlier, Rogov spoke about a group of 40. 10 thousand, apparently, have already probed the defense ...

[km-21]

The decisive role of this offensive is fiction. The war is controlled by the Americans, and they are determined to continue it for a very long time. In the event of the defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, a new offensive will be announced, then another and another. If possible, this war will drag on for many years if Russia does not take decisive action and stop the supply of weapons to Kyiv by striking at NATO territory.

[Oleg123219307]

Quote: km-21

The decisive role of this offensive is fiction. The war is controlled by the Americans, and they are determined to continue it for a very long time. In the event of the defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, a new offensive will be announced, then another and another. If possible, this war will drag on for many years if Russia does not take decisive action and stop the supply of weapons to Kyiv by striking at NATO territory.

Are you serious? NATO has orders of magnitude more opportunities than Ukraine to strike at our facilities. However, they don’t even rock the boat, knowing what the answer will be. What makes you think that in the event of a strike on NATO bases, the response from their side will be some other? At the moment when the inevitability of a direct conflict becomes obvious to us, it will be necessary to strike not at NATO bases, but at ALL of their cities and territories with strategic nuclear weapons. Because in the event of a direct conflict, everything will come to this in less than a day. But at the current stage, it's clearly not worth it. We have good air defense and missile defense, but nuclear weapons are nuclear weapons, it is enough to pass a couple of dozen warheads, and we will lose tens of millions. Our goal is not to kill them all, but to defend our interests and independence, and this is difficult to do in the middle of a lifeless radioactive planet. They have already played too much, in my opinion it’s definitely not worth playing along with them in the escalation. If we destroy everything that they supply without large losses of our own and make this war an economic nightmare for them, we will win without any nuclear weapons, and NATO will fall apart on its own. I'm not saying it's easy. But this is at least a chance to win, and not just take enemies with you to the next world.

[1erWahrheitsMinister_1984]

Ihre wohlwollende Polemik in Ehren, aber Sie liegen falsch!

Diese Krieg kann und wird nur enden und gut für Russland
ausgehen, wenn wir JETZT und nicht zu einem fiktiven,
späteren Zeitpunkt zumindest taktische Atomwaffen einsetzen,
denn es wird so or so in DIESEM KRIEG nicht mehr zu
vermeiden sein!!
Auch wenn man sich nur schwer an diesen Gedanken gewöhnen
kann und es paradox klingt, aber einen allumfassenden
atomaren Schlagabtausch kann man nur noch vermeiden, indem
man JETZT dieser kriminellen und bis Mark korrupten Bande von
Skrupellosen Völkermördern einen sehr harten und sehr
eindrucksvollen atomar-taktischen Schlag vor den "Bug" setzt...!!

Welche Gelegenheit könnte besser sein, als der jetzt wohl
endgültig anstehende Gegenoffensive wie einer Hydra mit
EINEM SCHLAG alle Köpfe gleichzeitig abzuschlagen...?!?

Diese vollkommen wahnsinnigen Schweine haben offenbar vergessen, was es heißt einen atomaren Schlag zu erhalten und es ist höchste Zeit, den Nazis in Kiew, Warschau, London (!!!) aber auch in Berlin (Ramstein+ Büschel !!) die Wirkung und Auswirkung der absoluten ENTSCHLOSSENHEIT der english Föderation vor Augen zu führen...!!
SO und nur SO kann ein Alles und Jeden vernichtender dritter Weltkrieg vielleicht gerade noch vermieden werden, sonst werden die Amis, die bereits hinlänglich ihre völlige Skrupellosigkeit und Menschenverachtung nicht nur in Hiroshima und Nagasaki, sondern auch mit Napalm und "Agent Orange" in Vietnam unter
Beweis gestellt haben, TODSICHER als erster losschlagen und haben genau zu diesem Zweck gerade ihre diesbezüglichen,
atomaren Angriffsdoktrin dahingehend geändert, dass sie jetzt auch präventiv einen Atomschlag führen würden...!! So what?!?

JEDER der etwas andres glaubt oder sagt, belügt nur sich selbst
und auch auf dumme und höchst leichtfertige Weise Andere
Mensch...!!

[Mikhail Ivanov]

There is nothing new in this information. I personally do not believe that this scam will be implemented. We will be able to repel the attack, although there will be significant losses on our part. Simply, after this throw, the Ukrainian will lose combat potential, lose the lion's share of armor and then get hit from our side. The failure of the operation will lead to the retreat of the ukroreich as far as the Dnieper and Kharkiv, where the fate of the Jester's administration will be decided ...

[Kronos]

No, it won't. For Russia's Offensive will require forces no less than Ukraine's use.

[bk316]

For Russia's Offensive will require forces no less than Ukraine's use.

They studied badly. This is if you attack now, then yes.
And if you defeat the Armed Forces of Ukraine during the offensive, then the Dnieper will be empty.
The only question is not to take it on the move in Kharkov.

[Kronos]

They will never throw all their forces into the offensive.

[kromer]

Quote: bk316

And if you defeat the Armed Forces of Ukraine during the offensive, then the Dnieper will be empty.
The only question is not to take it on the move in Kharkov.

There, besides Kharkov, there are a lot of cities to the Dnieper that cannot be taken on the move.

[aglet]

"And if you defeat the Armed Forces of Ukraine during the offensive, then the Dnieper will be empty"
and what forces will attack then? or will we have no losses at all, and even more equipment?

[bk316]

We read carefully.

to the Dnieper will be empty"

And if you are talking about forcing the Dnieper, then this does not shine for us yet.
We need a million more.

Why are you all so uneducated. After all, you are sitting on VO, you could read. Nevertheless, deployment plans and the approximate needs of military operations and the norms for the capture of cities, both with and without the use of nuclear weapons, have long been published. And what is characteristic is still written in 60.
When the covid was, Sobyanin simply raised a piece of paper signed by STALIN for 52 years and entered the points in order. And the paper was in the public domain, but all the people wrote incredible "tales of what will happen tomorrow." And now it's the same.

[Uncle_Misha]

I agree. There may be significant losses during the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but not a rout.

[Man from afar]

"In the event that the counter-offensive fails, Ukraine will actually suffer a final military defeat."
Endure, and then endure. They will still install the equipment, and they will find and catch new mice under the stones. Only a few fat dots we could easily finish all this, but the leadership does not need it, because immediately after that we will immediately become new mattresses, with a bunch of "friends" - toadies and temptations for officials (and they would sell everything they could if dollars from abroad they could get it without problems and there was where to escape. Chubais is an example of this.) If everything had turned out differently, a variant with even greater isolation, they would have done so long ago - he would have simplified everything. And so we are training to fight with the West (and any Western army specifically has a set with the APU in terms of rage, ingenuity), their equipment and technologies, and besides this, we are building independence. And this (thanks to Chubais and others like him) is a long business. So it will be a long one, not for another year, with a bunch of such "final defeats"

[Carlos Hall]

Mine, build more fortifications and use planes to slow down the advance, and mass produce the Lancet Drone which is the most efficient.

[Sergey39]

Just a Scribe, all the plans are laid out. (((

[Tank destroyerSU-100]

Quote from Orange Bigg

We need massive strikes of the FAB / ODAB-500 on the places of concentration to prevent the possibility of the APU to attack.

Alas, the number of our aviation is so meager that, due to fear of losses, it is forbidden for it to fly beyond the line of contact. If our army had absolute air supremacy, it would not be difficult to make this corps into the trash from the air. But no, for the "compact" Russian Aerospace Forces such a task is "mission impossible".

[1erWahrheitsMinister_1984]

Man sollte nicht nur dieses Angriffs-Heer komplett und umfassend
vernichten, sondern es sollte gerade jetzt auf eine Art und Weise
geschehen, die so gewaltsam und derart eindrucksvoll ist, dass
wirklich JEDER Staat und jeder der Nazis in Kiew versteht, dass
RUSSLAND eine ATOM-Macht ist, die der gesamte Westen auch
mit noch so vielen Panzern und kollektiv Nothing besiegen cann...!!

would you Finally SO consequent handeln, dann könnte der
Krieg schon in wenigen Tagen been det sein, ansonsten riskiert man
erneut einen "Sieg" mit sehr vielen russischen Menschen, Frauen und
auch Kindern zu bezahlen und DAS muss einfach nicht mehr sein...!!!!!!

[Sergei Timofeich]

30 people in camouflage and more than a hundred armor are hard to hide, you have to bang preventively, Uncle Vova, remember, this was special ...

[AlexWar]

They are apparently going to attack through the reservoir, but it should dry out for a month or more
It's time to mobilize and cover the places near the reservoir. Dig trenches there.

[isv000]

Armed Forces of Ukraine are preparing a 30-strong corps for a breakthrough towards Melitopol

They didn’t make stew from such bulls!

[Crimean partisan 1974]

from the Orekhovskoye direction to the side

... well, there the hunters have already raked, leaving thousands of corpses ... and sho .. AGAIN