Fighting in the village of Novodonetskoye near Ugledar: the RF Armed Forces are trying to drive out the Marines of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

Today, the most fierce battles in the South-Donetsk direction, where Ukrainian formations went on a counteroffensive yesterday, unfolded in the area of ​​​​the village of Novodonetskoye, located not far from Ugledar and the settlement. Great Novoselka.

In the morning, a column of armored vehicles of the 37th Separate Marine Brigade of the Naval Forces of Ukraine, in the amount of about 30 armored vehicles, including Kirpi and MaxxPRO, attacked the positions of the Russian army near the village. As a result of a swift attack, Ukrainian formations managed to take positions on the outskirts of Novodonetsk.

Currently, fighting continues in the village between Russian troops and Ukrainian marines. Units of the 36th Combined Arms Army of the RF Armed Forces are trying to drive Ukrainian Marines out of the village. Under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, according to military correspondents, there is a part of the settlement.

At the same time, a column of armored vehicles of 20 vehicles advanced from the area of ​​Velikaya Novoselka to the southeast. Presumably, she was sent to reinforce the positions captured in Novodonetsk.

Military correspondents report that Ukrainian formations attacked the positions of the Russian Armed Forces in the Novodarovka and Rovnopol regions. According to some information, the 23rd and 31st separate mechanized brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were involved in the offensive. By noon on June 5, the RF Armed Forces were able to repel the attack of 6 tanks and infantry units near Novodarovka. But the offensive from the side of Novoselka continues, the enemy is transferring military reserves 2 kilometers west of the village of Neskuchnoye.

In the morning, the Russian military managed to repulse an attempt to storm the positions of the Russian Armed Forces in the area of ​​​​the villages of Neskuchnoye and Storozhevoye, which was undertaken by soldiers of the same 37th Separate Marine Brigade of the Ukrainian Navy, who were traveling in several armored vehicles.

Thus, the South-Donetsk direction at the junction of the Donetsk People's Republic and the Zaporozhye region of the Russian Federation quite expectedly became the site of an active offensive by Ukrainian formations, which both representatives of the Kiev regime and Western politicians have been talking about for so long.

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[dmi.pris1]

Rpbyata, hold on. Beat these waterfowl vuk ..

[private person]

Thus, the South-Donetsk direction at the junction of the Donetsk People's Republic and the Zaporozhye region of the Russian Federation quite expectedly became the site of an active offensive by Ukrainian formations

So they expected, but the fur-bearing animal scribe crept up, as always, not noticeably. Well, now the main thing is to hold on and not retreat to more advantageous positions, as we often do.

[Sailor]

Cyclical, like 100 years ago, the Russians are shooting at the Russians from both sides ...

[fruc]

Sailor Black Sea Fleet ..... Russians are shooting at Russians from both sides ...

Do you think so ? And you ask these vuks who they consider themselves to be. For me, it's a bitch.

[incognoto]

the history of the article has shown that in this situation, oh, no matter how the anti-tank systems interfere with the principle of firing and forgetting.

[Orange Bigg]

Based on the Sokol-V TUR, where the fire-and-forget principle is implemented, it is possible in principle to make ATGMs of the 3rd generation. If only someone would not say once again that we don’t need it. Yes, the same attack drones could burn the advancing columns. Or at the end ends of the ODAB-500 to work out on the occupied positions.

[incognoto]

it’s easier to stir up something based on Whirlwind or Attack, I’m not special in this area, but as far as I know, when working with turntables, control is carried out by laser, so the turntable is forced to hover in the affected area. which allows the enemy, even with the help of portable anti-tank systems, to defeat the turntables

[ada]

Quote from incoggnoto

it’s easier to stir up something based on Whirlwind or Attack, ...

"Ataka-V" - radio command control, range: taking on escort tracking of the target - 8 -10 km; launch 8 km, flight time at Dmax - 16-20 s.
"Vikhr-V" - control in the laser trace, range: taking on escort -12 km; launch - 10 km, flight time at Dmax - 28 s.
The carrier maneuvers at low altitudes in significant yaw and roll angles at long ranges without entering the affected area of ​​most MANPADS and ATGMs, hovering is not required. Rockets are supersonic with a short flight time to effective firing ranges.
For "fire and forget" you need a completely different missile and control equipment.

[vvvjak]

Quote from Orange Bigg

Yes, the same attack drones could burn the advancing columns. Or, in the end, work out the ODAB-500 in occupied positions.

They write in the "cart" that in those parts the weather is non-flying - rain.

[Orange Bigg]

They write something else.

Russian troops launched a counterattack near the junction of the DPR and the Zaporozhye region, where the Armed Forces of Ukraine have been trying to penetrate the defenses for the second day and start a breakthrough towards the Sea of ​​Azov, including with the use of Leopard tanks.

“Right at this moment, ours are counterattacking in the Velikonovosyolovsky direction. With the most powerful support of aviation and artillery,” reports channel 105 of the People’s Militia Regiment of the DPR.

https://www.politnavigator.net/rossijjskie-vojjska-poshli-v-kontrataku-na-leopardy.html

[Boris Sergeev]

Kirpi armored vehicles are Türkiye, Erdogan. We told them the S-400 and the "grain deal". The president's "advisers" know better!

[Sergey39]

The Turks "dismiss", they say that the state of Turkey does not supply weapons to the "territory of Ukraine". Deliveries are carried out by private companies.

[BMP-2]

What kind of state is this then, if it does not give orders to its private companies?

[Alister kroulegg]

And the Russian leadership has a decree for its oligarchs?

[Wer best do]

Their state has no motivation. Now, if our state imposed sanctions on them, they would quickly find an opportunity to influence private traders.

[Kusja]

Where did intelligence look? Or observe only through binoculars from their positions? It turns out that they were taken by surprise, which means that the enemy’s plan was not taken into account ..

[rotkiv04]

Quote: Kusja

Where did intelligence look? Or observe only through binoculars from their positions? It turns out that they were taken by surprise, which means that the enemy’s plan was not taken into account ..

what kind of intelligence is there, at plywood only everyone plays biathlon

[dmi.pris1]

They chose the site for a long time, or rather, the Pentagonites chose. They know where and what units, who commands, what qualities of both commanders and subordinates. This is how they find the weak link

[Mikhail Maslov]

The reconnaissance spotted the columns at night. But it was the weekend in the Moscow Region!!! Therefore, there was no agreement. Here is the situation.

[Alexey G]

But it's the weekend in MO

That's what American intelligence knew for sure! Because Monday was chosen and was!

[Alexey Lantukh]

It is foolish to think that the quality and number of troops in some sector is a constant value. Troops are changing. There is a second line.

[Alexey Lantukh]

It's easy to talk from the couch. We don't know anything. After all, hurricane fire from the Armed Forces of Ukraine along our line is not ruled out. We don’t know how ours dug in and what equipment is there. We wait. We wish our luck.

[MeVED]

Quote: Kusja

Where did intelligence look? Or observe only through binoculars from their positions? It turns out that they were taken by surprise, which means that the enemy’s plan was not taken into account ..

They, too, are not badly offended, they use camouflage, move covertly, most likely, there are deceptive maneuvers to confuse our intelligence. But they cannot accumulate large forces in one place, our artillery and aircraft will cover it. Hence the tactics are such, it is clear that they are advancing in small forces at once in several places. They try to quickly break through the defense and rapidly develop success, as was the case last year. But this time we are prepared, I hope.

[Petr_Koldunov]

That is, "it was expected" ... but the attack became "sudden" and "rapid"! Yes, how so?
And if the column is moving to help the Chewbacca Marines, is a similar column moving to help ours?

[dmi.pris1]

I'm sure, well, or I hope that help is in a hurry. It's just that not everything needs to be said.

[shikin]

Call the General Staff, maybe they will answer.
The information that reaches the VO is extremely incomplete and often incorrect (sometimes deliberately). And on the basis of short reports, drawing any conclusions is simply unreasonable.
And none of the military will share operational intelligence with the general public. This is done by non-military people. Hence the conclusions.

[MeVED]

Quote: Peter_Koldunov

That is, "it was expected" ... but the attack became "sudden" and "rapid"! Yes, how so?
And if the column is moving to help the Chewbacca Marines, is a similar column moving to help ours?

And like this. What is now behind their columns rush headlong? So ours will fall into ambushes, and deceitful tricks will be waged. All the same - it is impossible to arrive at the same time, there will be some kind of delay. It is clear that the attacker has the advantage of surprise, a short-term numerical superiority. But it is easier for the defender to defend himself, he can prepare in advance and strengthen positions, which can also be masked. If the commander has the talent of a commander and a chuik, then it is possible to arrange ambushes in the alleged places of attack. So now the main task is to stop the fast movement of the attacker, so that they get stuck, even if temporarily leaving our positions, so that the fighters do not die in vain. But do not drape in a panic, but retreat to previously prepared positions so that the attackers are met in new positions by a larger number of fighters. And if they didn’t sit idly by, and I think they didn’t, then they should have put minefields between the first and second lines of defense, and shot through the escape routes from everything. Then the attackers will definitely slow down, and even be trapped. So far, it looks like it is.

[Bingo]

There is no fleet, there are marines ... It's time for them to rename themselves, like the former airborne forces there, into air graves

[Al manah]

This information is not confirmed by Konashenkov, so it cannot be trusted. One can trust yesterday's report, which he confirmed - that "the enemy did not achieve his goals." And today the news is posted and read only by cissists.

[invisible_man]

Here with the perception of sarcasm is tight.

[Thrifty]

Yes, now aviation is given the main role in knocking out equipment in the first place.

[Carlos Hall]

In any battle, the outcome is usually not initially clear. According to the Russian side, Ukrainian losses amount to at least 10 tanks, almost 40 infantry fighting vehicles or armored personnel carriers and at least 250 wrecked (killed or very bad WIA). With this number of dead, the number of wounded is likely to be 750-1000 people. If these numbers are correct, the prospects for a Ukrainian counteroffensive look very dim. And this is even if we do not take into account the ongoing intensive offensive of Russian aviation and artillery on troop concentrations, ammunition depots and fuel UkraF. With more than 1000 killed and wounded, this means that the 4000-strong Ukrainian brigade is losing at least 25 percent of its personnel. The brigade is about to be taken out of action. Two days of fighting with such losses would have destroyed the combat capability of the brigade. 24 days with such losses would have actually destroyed the entire fist of 12 brigades that the UkrVF had assembled for the counteroffensive. With the loss of about 12 brigades, 25 dead/live, 000 tanks and 250 infantry fighting vehicles/armored personnel carriers, all strategic reserves that UkrVF has accumulated over the past 1000 months will be lost. In turn, the Ukrainian side could advance in some places by about 6 km, and in general by 10-2 km along half of the southern front. Again, IF Russia's claims are correct, the Russian Aerospace Forces should be released, and UkraF is very concerned about the outcome of the fighting on the southern front on June 3th.

[igorbrsv]

Therefore, the Ukrinformburo has kept silent for now. Will burn out - will not burn out. And yet they went deep into our positions for two kilometers, gaining a foothold on the outskirts of Novodonetsk. Reinforcements poured in to them. I hope ours will keep the village. In other areas, as I understand it, they could not develop success. They write that leopards have been spotted in the Novoselka area. Seems like they've found a weak spot.

[Carlos Hall]

The analysis was made by the Swedish specialist Valtersson. It is too early to assess the situation as a whole, but by no means did the Russian army collapse as they expected. He fights. The Russian army shows its face.

[Boris Sergeev]

Oleg Tsarev, Front report, June 5.06: The situation is complicated - the total advance was from 700 meters to 3 km. On the part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, six mechanized and two tank battalions were involved. The enemy not only took one position, but also cut off a whole ledge. There is no talk about lost positions yet. There is a possibility of further attempts by the Armed Forces of Ukraine to strike at the Kamenskoye-Orekhov-Gulyaipole section, from where, if successful, they will be able to go to Tokmak and move to Melitopol.

[kakvastam]

Why a counteroffensive?
Are we going somewhere?

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

Here. And if the Ukrainians had thrown tanks instead of mraps, or together, they would have occupied the whole village. Our year was preparing and, as always, the war came unexpectedly.

[arthh]

Rybar writes that they took him ....

[Chem1st]

Quote from Carlos Sala

According to the Russian side, Ukrainian losses are at least 10 tanks, almost 40 infantry fighting vehicles or armored personnel carriers and at least 250 wrecked (killed or very bad WIA). With this number of dead, the number of wounded is likely to be 750-1000 people.

1. For the wounded, in my opinion, too optimistic. I think that the figure 400 - 500 is closer to the truth.
2. The units are fresh, from the reserve. Combat stability will be high.
3. They have reserves of manpower and equipment, and no one will count them, their command is not sorry. There are still many Schenevmerliks, and they will be given equipment from the West.
So it's not so cheerful and fun for us.

[IgorZ]

It is unlikely that this is the point of the intended strike, reconnaissance in force and probing. More like a distraction. I think the blow will be powerful, without reconnaissance, and at a point close to the Dnieper, so that one flank is covered by the Dnieper, and there the road to the Crimea is close to both Melitopol and Berdyansk. It's most convenient there. If this is the case, and our General Staff once again goof off, then I will not have kind words. And the troops will be concentrated there at the last moment.

[Poplar]

In this case, our intelligence and its interaction with the Aerospace Forces and artillery are of particular importance. Any attempts at concentration must be crossed by FABs and other available means. But intelligence is the main thing, it should work to the maximum.

[Dva parovoza]

"The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are trying to drive out the Marines of the Armed Forces of Ukraine" ... The key word here is: they are trying. But what about the "terrible" articles about how we have reserves in the rear in this direction ready to meet the enemy with a huge amount of artillery and aircraft? Where is it all? All military correspondents vying with each other scribble: the RF Armed Forces found themselves in a difficult situation near Ugledar, and the Ministry of Defense met everyone long ago, squeezed out and crushed ...

[ugos]

from Khodakovsky, I believe:
“Unable to break through our defenses, the enemy considered his position unfavorable and began to crawl away from the captured positions. Yesterday, at the end of the day, Novodonetskoye was almost completely in his hands, with the exception of a few streets - at the moment, we have restored control over the settlement. The losses on our side turned out to be much less than they could have been with such an aggressive onslaught. The domestic connection worked reliably, the import was put down immediately. Today the situation is at the level of the usual background - apparently, there is a regrouping.''

[Serge9901]

The whole world trumpeted about the offensive for almost half a year, there was time to prepare. If we surrender and retreat, they will force us to conclude a "peace" and impose a tribute worse than the Tatar-Mongol. Time to answer the question - do we have leadership or are they random people at the "helm".

[km-21]

Judging by the destruction of the Kakhovka dam, Kyiv switched to scorched earth tactics and began to destroy everything in its power. If so, then it makes no sense for Russia to protect the territory of the enemy and its population, which in any case will be destroyed and destroyed during the retreat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.