Russian forces managed to block the DRG of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the area of ​​Novaya Tavolzhanka, there is a battle

Russian forces managed to block part of the AFU grouping that invaded Russian territory on the farm Staroselye in the Novaya Tavolzhanka area. Now there is a battle going on in this village. It is reported by the TG-channel Ridovka with reference to its own sources.

According to available information, the forces of saboteurs are blocked on the farm, there is a battle, they are trying to break out of the encirclement and go towards the border. Ours do not allow them to do this. The farm itself is located near the border with the Kharkov region, it belongs to Novaya Tavolzhanka. Previously, militants from the "Russian Volunteer Corps"* (RDK*) banned in Russia and recognized as a terrorist organization entered in several groups, some of them ended up on a farm.

The videos that appeared on the Web with the alleged battle of Russian special forces with Ukrainian DRGs in Novaya Tavolzhanka are stuffed by TsIPSO. Footage taken in other places and voiced on behalf of a local resident was issued for a video allegedly from a Russian settlement. At the same time, videos shot on May 22, during the first attack on the Grayvoron district, are posted on the Web. They must show that the fighting on the territory of the Belgorod region goes on without interruption, and the RDK * units allegedly captured part of the Russian region.

Meanwhile, the Russian Ministry of Defense reports an attempt by Ukrainian DRGs to cross the river in the area of ​​Novaya Tavolzhanka and repulsed the attack. According to the military department, the group was dispersed by artillery fire.

June 4 this year Units of covering the state border of the Western Military District and the border service of the FSB revealed an attempt by a sabotage and reconnaissance group of Ukrainian terrorists to cross the river near the settlement of Novaya Tavolzhanka, Belgorod Region. The enemy was hit by artillery. The enemy is scattered and retreated

- declared in the Ministry of Defense.

Comments

[dmi.pris1]

Surprisingly, these terrorists are so frostbitten .. Trample into hell, without talking

[Thrifty]

"The enemy is scattered and retreated" - and that's it? Why isn't he pursued, destroyed? Why were they released alive?

[dmi.pris1]

Apparently not enough forces for complete encirclement and destruction

[igorbrsv]

Because they are like mothers. They came, they ran, they robbed, they ran away

[Taimen]

Patam shta. How Chubais, five deputies of the chairman of the government, were released under a lemon with more than cowards and traitors and do not touch the rest. So the "freedmen" are fighting against us. they will let them go anyway. This is not a people who are not allowed to go anywhere for a fine of 3000 rubles. But these ...... "kindred souls."

[D16]

Surprisingly, these terrorists are so frostbitten.

If the president is the commander-in-chief of a drug addict. What to expect from subjects?

[lis-ik]

Even the title already reminds me of some kind of "Groundhog Day". This has already happened several times, hey guarantor, it will not resolve itself.

[Huzhzhu]

Or maybe it’s enough from the “guarantor” to make “a plug for each barrel”? Maybe it's time for MO to move? And then some bad thoughts creep in - incompetence or intentionally ... There are many questions, but not to the "guarantor"! IMHO.

[Gardamir]

So you don't think he's responsible for anything? Yes, at least for the fact that he appointed all these to the Moscow Region.

[ugos]

We now have many armies:
''Kadyrov repeated Prigozhin's proposal.

Head of Chechnya Ramzan Kadyrov proposes to send Chechen units to the Belgorod region

“In total, the number of Chechen fighters in battalions and regiments of power and military structures exceeds 70 people. That's three armies! This would be a good decision. Therefore, we are ready and waiting for the order!”

Earlier, Prigozhin said that PMC Wagner is ready to ensure the security of the Belgorod region, and permission will not be asked.''

[ugos]

Kind of surreal to be honest. Issues of security of citizens, he proposes first to provide PMCs, and now the head of the subject said that he has 3 armies.

Where is MO? So the stupid General Lapin is commanding the Defense Ministry there, and this explains everything.

[azkolt]

Quote: Buzz

Or maybe it’s enough from the “guarantor” to make “a plug for each barrel”? Maybe it's time for MO to move? And then some bad thoughts creep in - incompetence or intentionally ... There are many questions, but not to the "guarantor"! IMHO.

Yes, okay, pretend to be, the main questions are just for the guarantor. It is he who must screw everyone there, and if he chews snot, everyone relaxes. But here's what I think, we just need to pray for his health, because if something happens to him, his entourage will instantly sell the country and won't even blink!

[dmi.pris1]

Again, twenty-five! The tsar is good, but the boyars are bad .. And who, if not the guarantor, pulled them to power? Yes, they will be sold. But they are untouchable by the "garart" itself

[azkolt]

Quote from: dmi.pris1

Again, twenty-five! The tsar is good, but the boyars are bad .. And who, if not the guarantor, pulled them to power? Yes, they will be sold. But they are untouchable by the "garart" itself

Yes, such an incident, he attracted them, but now everything rests on him and only on him. If something happens, who will pick up the banner? Shoigu or what? Chur. me! Mishustin, self-prite, I think, among them, as well as has no influence, or almost no. Kirienko, he seems to be behind Prigozhin, but personally I have not had faith in him since the 90s. That's who? I haven’t seen a patriot there in 20 years of Putin’s rule, well, Glazyev will help, but he didn’t have real power either!

[Egoza]

Quote: azkolt

he pulled them, but now everything rests on him and only on him.

That's how he pulled it, let him push it back. This he can as a guarantor?

[azkolt]

Quote: Egoza

Quote: azkolt

he pulled them, but now everything rests on him and only on him.

That's how he pulled it, let him push it back. This he can as a guarantor?

Well, this is for him with such advice, he really does not like this and will do everything the other way around.

[alexoff]

You know how with Pugacheva. Like - our singers are bad, they sing sad songs with a cheerful face, and Pugacheva's talent and wins back to the fullest when performing. But no one wants to think that Pugachev, including Pugachev, brought all these mediocrities to TV. It has never happened before that someone important surrounds himself with nonentities in order to look better against their background.

[azkolt]

Quote from alexoff

You know how with Pugacheva. Like - our singers are bad, they sing sad songs with a cheerful face, and Pugacheva's talent and wins back to the fullest when performing. But no one wants to think that Pugachev, including Pugachev, brought all these mediocrities to TV. It has never happened before that someone important surrounds himself with nonentities in order to look better against their background.

I agree completely, but I think that the mafia is in show business and the business of running the country also because now is such a time for the country, it must be experienced. But on the other hand, he did not lift a finger to somehow break this system. So many people moaned about the Blue Light and these glossy mugs, it would seem to change their curator Ernst, but no. And Gref, Nabiullina.? For him, the main thing is that they do not encroach on the authorities, and there steal as much as you can.

[All_Good]

So we have been praying for 23 years already, will we pray for another 12 years? And where will this lead us?

[Deon59]

You can already see what it has led to. Our territories are being shelled, people are dying.

[Taimen]

What, you have to go to the partisans, or what? Although maybe.

[levfuks]

You mentioned the guarantor twice in quotation marks. Are you hinting that the warranty period has expired?
Or is the guarantee not for everyone?

[Deon59]

How can the MO move if the guarantor does not want to. If you want to win, don't wait.

[Olesya Lesya]

We are dealing with the terrorist Kyiv regime. They do not know how to fight according to the rules, and terror is always difficult. And stop lashing out at the president. Apparently you are a nerd.

[azkolt]

Quote: Olesyai Lesya

We are dealing with the terrorist Kyiv regime. They do not know how to fight according to the rules, and terror is always difficult. And stop lashing out at the president. Apparently you are a nerd.

Terror is not difficult when you fight with it, like at the beginning of the XNUMXs, but here it’s not even terror, there’s a simple army that simply resisted and he doesn’t know what to do. Zugzwang!

[D16]

I'm sure it won't dissolve on its own.

They stubbornly make an elephant out of a fly in order to provoke the movement of troops and the cleansing of the direction prepared for defense, which will divert resources from real places for the disposal of bio-garbage, which was hitting Berdyansk with "Point U" with a cluster warhead.

[4ekist]

1. According to available information, the forces of saboteurs are blocked on the farm, there is a battle, they are trying to break out of the encirclement and go towards the border.
2.Meanwhile, the Russian Ministry of Defense reports an attempt by Ukrainian DRGs to cross the river in the area of ​​Novaya Tavolzhanka and repulsed the attack.

I don’t understand, this information is to confuse foreign intelligence or is designed for a fool.

[azkolt]

Quote: 4ekist

1. According to available information, the forces of saboteurs are blocked on the farm, there is a battle, they are trying to break out of the encirclement and go towards the border.
2.Meanwhile, the Russian Ministry of Defense reports an attempt by Ukrainian DRGs to cross the river in the area of ​​Novaya Tavolzhanka and repulsed the attack.

I don’t understand, this information is to confuse foreign intelligence or is designed for a fool.

It seems they themselves do not know what and where. And here Ryadovka is still reporting that the fighting is going on in Staroselye, which, according to their data, is far from Tavolzhanka. NASA has published images, in the latter there are a lot of fires.

[PVV66]

Shoigu and Gerasimov were given machine guns and platoon commanders to the border of the Belgorod region. Since the mind is not enough to command from Moscow, let them command in the trenches. And let the great judoka draw red lines further.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: PVV66

A great judoka

This is called old age. Somehow I took nunchucks... That's it, paragraph... Well, I can't break the chandelier with them...

[Zefr]

One friend explained to me what "red lines" means. When you say "red lines" aloud, what it really means is "what the hell are you talking about". Those. These are secret agreements about acceptable actions. And in fact, there are no military operations at all, but secret negotiations with a show of force. Moreover, our believe promises. Ehhhh.

[Vladimir80]

Secret negotiations? Well, this is stupidity, with our negotiations they have already sent several times - in April 22, in autumn, in winter, .... Not for that, the CIA (West) built everything !!!

[levfuks]

Quote: PVV66

And the great judoka let him go on

Is he something special? Or is he good at drawing?
So let him raise "his own" to attack. Longtime commander. It's time.

[codetalker]

"Scattered and moved away" and norms?
It is impossible to destroy the enemy in the place where he retreated?
By the way, the place where the enemy came from was fasting from early morning by all journalists and the enemy himself. Can't you do it in advance? What's stopping you?

[UAZ 452]

Scattered, moved outside the territory of the Russian Federation, after which he was blocked on a farm, making attempts to escape. Wanguyu: after which he will be forced out into Ukraine, an artillery strike will be launched on him, which will finish off the remnants, who will give interviews on UkrTV tomorrow.
In a couple of days, everything will repeat itself on another section of the state border, which is prohibited under the threat of fines and criminal cases for discrediting (whom?) To call the front.

[alexoff]

Moreover, this other section will be half an hour away, traditionally it will turn out that there is a forest, they left the forest, the camera was broken and that’s all, ours waited half a day to coordinate their actions with the authorities on the day off.

[BMP-2]

I wonder what was the number of DRG? As I understand it, the battle was with superior enemy forces?

[Arkadich]

Why are you guys fuming and criticizing? Is VO an official body? No.
There is a journalist (at best) who understands military affairs (which I personally doubt) pulled information from all sources, the same "journalists" collected a hodgepodge of some unverified facts and gave it to the mountain.

[PVV66]

Of course, why should I boil? My wife will soon begin to stutter from "claps", although we live ten minutes away from Shibekino.

[alexoff]

In the Moscow Region, there are probably more than one hundred people working in the press service, I suppose everyone has titles and surcharges, the whole crowd write one letter a day for reports

[Petr_Koldunov]

They must show that the fighting on the territory of the Belgorod region goes on continuously

And they go on and on. Over the past 10 days - in my opinion, already the FOURTH invasion of these ghouls across our border ... And every time - "heavy" battles. And that's not counting rocket and shelling in the border areas... What is there to show? Everything is visible.

[Deck]

At the ceremony of awarding the laureates of the Russian Geographical Society, a child asked the President: where does Russia end? Where does its border end?
To which President Putin said ingratiatingly, after a pause: "Russia has no borders!"
I really hoped it meant something else

[UAZ 452]

Yeah... The Commander-in-Chief spoke the truth. But in this case, it would be better if he lied.

[igorbrsv]

In fact, Putin said that Russia does not end anywhere. Why pull out the words? What do you do?

[huntsman650]

No, not like that! He asked where the border ends and he answered nowhere.

[LeutnantTom]

two helicopters and it's over, short process!

[UAZ 452]

As the events of recent weeks show, it is a short process for these helicopters if they dare to fly close to the border.

[oleg varinov]

already on our territory we scatter art with Natsik fire

[Shamil88]

As I understand it, the initiative is completely given to the enemy, given the huge common border, they can simultaneously hit at any point, no army is enough to cover such a large border, what is the Defense Ministry going to do and where is the commander in chief? This is actually an attack on the country, why don't we enter the Sumy and Chernihiv regions? We do not stretch their forces, sitting on the defensive and releasing cruise missiles and geraniums, wars are not won. It seems that they are in complete shock and do not know what to do and how to be, this happens when you appoint your friends to responsible positions. All this will end in disaster for the country.

[invisible_man]

In order to enter the Sumy and Chernihiv regions, while simultaneously holding the Donbass, it was necessary to mobilize more than a year ago. And to call not 300 thousand, but a million. And now you bring in the last reserves there, the enemy will tie them up with battles of local importance, while he himself will strike the main blow elsewhere.

[Vladimir80]

I propose to all supporters of mobilization and conscription to sign up as volunteers

[alexoff]

What prevents you from conducting similar raids but with more serious goals? Drive echelons with inflatable tanks near the border, let them hide and let them themselves remove brigades from the Donbass to cover the borders. I don’t ask where are the orions, who have been riveting in three shifts for a year now and who can send a couple of dozen to patrol the border, they would quickly stop such sorties without any mobilization

[All_Good]

So there is already a million army. The question is why are we feeding this mob? For a rainy day ?

[invisible_man]

You don't need a million total, and a million specifically in Ukraine. Because we need to think about covering other areas. And not all servicemen fight, there are all kinds of auxiliary positions - this must also be remembered.

[igorbrsv]

. why don't we enter the Sumy and Chernihiv regions? We do not stretch their strength

The answer is in your words. Without stretching their forces, we do not stretch our own. You can take their settlements while they have only saboteurs there. And who will keep them? Again the border guards and the FSB, and the fighters of the military unit?

[alexoff]

Why keep them? Catch the local Sbushnik-terodefense, take them to your place, let them build roadways along the border.

[evgen1221]

Well, actually this is the whole plan of their offensive, terrorist campaigns a la Basayev.

[kakvastam]

An interesting structure with one-sided transparency: on our side - an unguarded border, on their side - the front line.
So it turns out that their DRGs go to us as if to their home, because they are intended for that to operate behind enemy lines, but ours cannot visit them, because there is a foreign country!

[vladcub]

Comrades, it seems to me that this is not casual.
The first time, for show off, it was: real Russians and others. You know how to submit.
May 22 Gaivoron, May 30 Shebekino, and today New Tavolzhanka.
It seems that they are pursuing several goals: 1) to sow panic so that the center loses control.
2) so that Gerasimov panicked and began transferring reserves to the Belgorod region.
3) analysis: how quickly the command responds. And this, in turn, will come in handy during the summer counteroffensive.

[forty-eighth]

Everything is about the same, but I would rephrase point 2: it was not Gerasimov who panicked, but the media space would panic. Well, it's in a panic. Well, then a political decision may come down from above: quickly stop the threat, transfer reserves, and ensure the protection of the line of contact.
Removal of reserves will be bad for the defense of the most likely place of attack of the Ukrik, but the current situation (forcing) may require irrational actions

[alexoff]

In the fall, it was like that - they began to transfer reserves to Kherson, because of this type they didn’t notice and surrendered the Kharkov region, and then they surrendered reinforced Kherson, something happened to Stremousov, they threw up their hands, asked for a truce (which many have forgotten), such are the strategists

[UAZ 452]

And if you manage to occupy some regional center for at least a few days, you can depict a referendum there.

[Alexey Krasnogorsky]

And in the depths of Russia there are no reserves at all?

[igorbrsv]

They are not deep down. They are relatively close to LBS. And in Belarus there is. But then they are reserves. Until intelligence reports on the threat of a real offensive or breakthrough, the reserves will not budge. For the sake of drg, they certainly will not be sent. Is it a battalion

[UAZ 452]

You will also remember the 5-strong military base of the Russian Armed Forces in Armenia, and this is without taking into account the peacekeeping contingent in Karabakh.

[Vladimir80]

. analysis: how quickly the command responds

Analysis? For what? They know all our steps from satellites, and the level of leadership is clear from the previous 15 months...

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

While they wait, how quickly the command will respond, the summer will end.

[donavi49]

Well, it's obvious. However, there is immediately but:
1) The damage will outweigh sooner or later, it simply cannot be ignored.
2) The tactics are flexible. If they understand that there are barriers against them and with conditional 2 brigades of Soviet weapons you can seriously enter Belgorod, then they will, why not? And, there is a referendum, separation and recognition. At a minimum, it will be necessary to dismantle the district-regional centers of primordial and recognized Russia, brick by brick, as a maximum, an excellent destabilizing factor in any negotiations.

[UAZ 452]

At a minimum, you will have to disassemble the district-regional centers of the original and recognized Russia brick by brick

And some commentators at VO will begin to call for a strike of tactical nuclear weapons already at Belgorod ... Bryansk ... Voronezh ...

[alystan]

Previously, militants from the "Russian Volunteer Corps"* (RDK*) banned in Russia and recognized as a terrorist organization went in several groups, some of them ended up on the farm.

It turns out that there is still no control and proper protection of the state border, and no?
Since the enemy is penetrating the territory of Russia in numerous groups and, accordingly, in different ways?

PS: All this is probably a consequence of the fact that last year they didn’t crush Kharkov and left Kyiv (?!)

[BorzRio]

Everything is easier. The enemy has pulled up a lot of artillery to the border, which, according to NATO intelligence, hits the border every day. Part of the peaceful ones, to sow panic and discontent, part of the military locations and bases, so that they do not cluster close to the border and are as far away from it as possible. So you have to choose - either keep the border cover forces under attack for days or take them away, giving border settlements to be torn apart by DRGs. And all because the front-border is not moving towards the enemy. Just standing still. And there is nothing to fight the shelling - there are no counter-battery combat stations in the required number, there is no reconnaissance, there is no artillery. Aviation is also not enough - and the enemy has MANPADS like cockroaches in the trash.

[UAZ 452]

Well, that is, by our own choice, we began to crush the hedgehog with our bare ass, and now we shrug, not knowing how to get out of this situation? Yeah...

[Maluck]

Have you heard about counter-battery combat? If what you said is the case, then what prevents this bunch of artillery from being dismantled after their first volleys ????

[Carlos Hall]

This is a Ukrainian ploy for Russia to divert resources from the fronts to the border. Don't fall into the Ukrainian trap

[invisible_man]

This is a Ukrainian ploy for Russia to divert resources from the fronts to the border.

I agree.

[Vladimir80]

Yes, here you can’t look anywhere - hoh.lov traps are everywhere (CIA, mi6, ...). It’s better to hold festivals in Moscow time, and launch planes to resorts ...

[All_Good]

Thank you . The death of people in the Belgorod region is also a trick, don't get caught

[kenpachi]

Quote: Shamil88

where is the commander in chief?

What does where mean? Most recently, he congratulated the children on the holiday. What else do you want?

[silverwolf88]

a question for the Ministry of Defense and the command ... but how could they even enter our territory ??? there is a war going on and, in theory, the border should be protected ... border guards, where are you and why are such directions not covered by reinforced ones! outposts ... what kind of brothel on a ribbon?

[igorbrsv]

They write that they are the first "guests" now and meet. And then only there the rest are pulled up

[Egoza]

Quote: silberwolf88

there is a war

Well, if there is a war, then at least half of the army must be answered. And then all the NWO, NWO ... They entered our territory - that's it! And here, no NATA will dare to bark.

[BorzRio]

Have you been on the outposts for a long time? The border guards do not have heavy weapons. Small arms only, even RPG minimum. Of the equipment, only armored personnel carriers, Kamaz and UAZs, in ostentatious ones - Tigers.

[Alexey Krasnogorsky]

Actually, there are also the National Guard and cops, in the amount of several million, not to mention contract soldiers heroically fighting somewhere near Krasnoyarsk, is it not fate to transfer them? Well, of course, providing the necessary weapons

[Chem1st]

Quote: forty-eighth

Removal of reserves will have a bad effect on the defense of the most likely place of the Ukrik offensive

Now that's what I call answering the manual! Great - in your opinion, nothing needs to be done, no troops should be touched, the border, God forbid, not strengthened - otherwise there are few troops, we, you understand, can only transfer them from near Zaporozhye, because they are nowhere else on the territory of Russia No! Well, let the locals in Shebekino die under shelling, their fate is such that ... I really don’t understand - but what prevents the combat units from being transferred with reinforcements to the border from the Moscow region? From the Volga region, Tatarstan, from the Urals? Did they not take an oath? Tomorrow the same thing will happen in the Kursk or Bryansk region - will there be heavy fighting again with attempts to "squeeze out" into the adjacent territory? Will civilians die again under massive shelling?

[igorbrsv]

It would be possible to catch up with conscripts at the borders. But this is more visible to the military

[BorzRio]

In the regions you listed, troops with conscripts remained, the understaffing is serious. Well, apparently there are no more contract servicemen in the country, eager to die in the trenches.

[igorbrsv]

The contractors are just in the trenches. During the five months of this year, the troops were replenished with 117 volunteers. The recruitment of volunteers by region is ongoing and does not stop. But they are all needed at the forefront. There are no people who want to die. There are still plenty of those who want to defend the Motherland.

[UAZ 452]

In principle, if they are convinced that the cover of the "old" territory of the Russian Federation is purely symbolic, then who prevents them from reconsidering their plans, abandoning the offensive in Zaporozhye and the Donbass in favor of capturing Belgorod? If our troops sit and wait for the promised counteroffensive, then the Armed Forces of Ukraine will calmly remove part of the forces from those directions and transfer them to the "old" border, where they will reach Moscow like a knife through a thin layer of butter.
Is it impossible to withdraw troops on the eve of the Ukrainian offensive? If the enemy has the ability to attack in any direction, and we do not have the ability to cover the entire line of contact, and there are no reserves either, then we will have a polar fox in any case, if not now, then in a couple of months. It’s not up to the annexation of new territories - to keep our own.

[certero]

In a video message from the governor, he said that the enemy has our prisoners.

[certero]

Quote: Shamil88

It seems that they are in complete shock and do not know what to do and how to be,

Is it still unclear that this is not an impression.
The enemy is trying to win, while ours are trying to finish their

[Ezekiel 25-17]

Destroy and the only way: without any pity ..

[donavi49]

Well, they have already recorded a new video - 12 prisoners (2 wounded in beds).

They say that they will hand them over to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

[igorbrsv]

. They say that they will hand them over to the Armed Forces of Ukraine

You might think that the vyruses will be better for them

[BorzRio]

Groundhog Day however ... But it's time to get used to it. Before they were denazified, that their own territory, cities and villages were under attack. Practically every day. The enemy roams across the border as if into a cheburek on a neighboring street, and also takes prisoners. And the RF Ministry of Defense is clear - the enemy is scattered and retreated. Perfect.

[kill the fascist]

Local bloomers started up and wailed. But in fact, "the strongest army in Europe", which wanted to ride on abrams on Red Square, is enough for sorties in the border areas. Unpleasant, but survivable. Banderogeevs are driven on the offensive, but they are in no hurry and try to compensate by creating informational occasions. Twitched, lost people and equipment. Fine. Bandera should be displayed as a species.

[Vladimir80]

In principle, the tactic for the near future was chosen as follows - on the evening of the day of the breakthrough, report that everything was stopped, the enemy was squeezed out, lost "70 people killed and two units of equipment", show footage with nurses to nowhere and continue to "have fun - trade." There is a certain category of stubborn people who believes that if every day "telling lies on the air" - then it's normal, ...

[igorbrsv]

Why do you see lies in everything? Not only mo declares that the enemy’s drg is making sorties. In different places. They attack and dump who carried their legs. Nightmare and rock the task of drg and eat

[ugos]

Wow sorties, so many prisoners were taken, if the video is not fake.

[igorbrsv]

There are more prisoners of war. Will exchange. If the rear ukry is not turned on

[Konnick]

And why are they not using the "effective" method of launching from attack helicopters, which have no analogues, NARs from nose-up, why do you need to get involved in skirmishes, but seriously, where is the most operational type of troops? Wow, wow....

[UAZ 452]

If they are shot down 40 km from the border, will they fly up to it at a distance of 10 km? Such a volley of NURSs will turn out to be expensive, and its effectiveness, like all previous similar ones, is zero. Who will God send?

[Ovsigovets]

problem? problem... need to be solved? definitely ... it seems to me that a new mobilization is needed ..... first of all, I would call all the local great warriors and strategists here))))))

[igorbrsv]

In-in. Local first and need to. Less shouting, more action. At least the battalion will leave

[Two]

Excuse me, but why do we have the main army of conscripts, it’s just worth going to parades. Put them on the border, that’s enough, what kind of madhouse is going on.

[certero]

Quote: igorbrsv

They attack and dump who carried their legs.

So far, we see that the enemy took our prisoners, about which he showed a video message, but confirmation from our Ministry of Defense has not yet been seen. This is called propaganda and agitation, which means no less to the war than guns and shells.

[Repellent]

Quote: certero

This is called propaganda and agitation, which means no less for a war than guns and shells.

Shells and cannons - yes, they are necessary in a war. Propaganda of this kind is designed mainly for hysterical squirrels. Do not confuse the pedals, "Colonel"

So far, we see that the enemy has taken our prisoners, about which he showed a video message, but confirmation from our Ministry of Defense has not yet been seen

Do you propose that the Ministry of Defense show the available dimples? They are there, quantum satis...

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: certero

Quote: igorbrsv

They attack and dump who carried their legs.

So far, we see that the enemy took our prisoners, about which he showed a video message, but confirmation from our Ministry of Defense has not yet been seen. This is called propaganda and agitation, which means no less to the war than guns and shells.

the vidos showed yes ...... took / didn’t take - not a fact .... you correctly noticed they work for the camera and propaganda .... but are there any prisoners?

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: Vladimir80

In principle, the tactic for the near future was chosen as follows - on the evening of the day of the breakthrough, report that everything was stopped, the enemy was squeezed out, lost "70 people killed and two units of equipment", show footage with nurses to nowhere and continue to "have fun - trade." There is a certain category of stubborn people who believes that if every day "telling lies on the air" - then it's normal, ...

so what? Grayvoron captured and held? or Shebekino or Tavolzhanka? I’m judging by the results .... that is, they broke through / tried .... And the result .... The result is that they didn’t, they didn’t capture ..... apparently they endure them with the holy spirit ...... or they are afraid of Nurses to nowhere .... even

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Quote: Repellent

Do you propose that the Ministry of Defense show the available dimples? They are there, quantum satis...

Yes, I suggest that the Ministry of Defense show those prisoners who were captured during the first enemy raid on the territory of the Belgorod Region and during this raid. only here they are not a fig