Chinese destroyer tries to intercept US warship in Taiwan Strait

The Pentagon is outraged by the actions of a Chinese destroyer that tried to "intercept" a US Navy ship en route through the Taiwan Strait. According to Global News, the Chinese literally passed "in front of the nose" of the Americans.

The Americans "miraculously" managed to avoid a collision with a Chinese ship that had crossed the path of a US Navy destroyer sailing through the Taiwan Strait. According to the Canadian publication, the American destroyer Chung-Hoon and the Canadian frigate Montreal followed the strait, which China considers its territorial waters. During the movement, a Chinese warship, most likely a Project 052D destroyer, came out to intercept them, demanding to change course.

The American warship refused to change course, demanding that the Chinese "stay clear", but the PLA Navy destroyer cut across the American, forcing it to change course and slow down to avoid a collision. Reportedly, the Chinese ship passed in front of the American at a distance of no more than 150 yards (137 meters). The Americans are outraged by the actions of the Chinese ship, most likely, Beijing will receive a note of protest in the near future. As the Pentagon has repeatedly stated, for the American fleet there are no "no-go zones", Washington stands for "free navigation".

China considers the Taiwan Strait as its territorial waters, since Taiwan is one of the provinces of China. The USA has a different opinion, they believe that the waters of the strait are neutral, therefore they are available for navigation. In addition, Washington believes that Taiwan is an independent and sovereign state, so they provide it with all kinds of support, including military assistance.

Recall that quite recently a Chinese J-16 fighter jet passed literally in front of the US Air Force RC-135 reconnaissance aircraft, forcing the American crew to "worry".

Comments

[rotmistr60]

the Chinese passed literally "before the nose" of the Americans.

Out of habit, the Americans began to "drive show-offs" - "the American warship refused to change course, demanding that the Chinese" stay away "in the expectation that the Chinese would not dare to create a situation dangerous for the American ship, but they were deeply mistaken. Next time, maybe " bulk" to happen.

[Shurik70]

Only a ram and you need to act.
When the USSR did this in the Black Sea (and almost stole a secret missile at the same time), it discouraged the United States from repeating provocations for a long time.
Until you hit the Americans, it's useless to say something. They speak better.

[Palestinian]

I haven’t heard about the rocket, tell us briefly if it’s not difficult, I saw a video of bulk but no more

[dmi.pris1]

Yes, there the boatswain tried to "lasso" something from the missile weapons on the deck of the American

[Reklastik]

Bosuns they are. Household.

[Metallurg_2]

The boatswain is apparently a marine subspecies of the ensign.

[Shurik70]

Here are the memories of the captain of our ship.
Description of an attempt to steal a rocket - moment 5:55
https://ok.ru/video/276726680314

[Egeny]

Well, why this show off? They created a tense situation, it's like a car driver ran a red road for you.
Again, you guys are biting a bone.)

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote from Egeni

Well, why this show off? They created a tense situation, it's like a car driver ran a red road for you.
Again, you guys are biting a bone.)

Naturally, you don’t understand ... You didn’t see Avtoham in the wrong place. Autoham, just showed that he was not alone on the road (in the sea).
And if today you don’t ride in front of the nose of the aggressor who has invaded your waters, then tomorrow the Americans won’t let the Chinese into the sea at all. That, they say, the interests of democracy require that the Chinese need to obtain permission from the United States in order to go to sea ...

[Egeny]

...if today you don't ride in front of the nose of the aggressor who invaded your...

...that's what Ukrainian boors think when they shell the Belgorod region and kill our old men and women.
By the way, they are beating our land... and you, Petya, are shielding the yellow-faced ones.
It's you "naturally ... you don't understand ..."

[Shurik70]

Quote from Egeni

Well, why this show off? They created a tense situation, it's like a car driver ran a red road for you.
Again, you guys are biting a bone.)

Autoham here is just an American.
Get in where you don't need to. Like a bandit on his "coffin" rushing in the middle of the highway along the dividing line, and on red.
And the Chinese here is a traffic police inspector. There is no authority to stop the car driver - he has a steep roof. So at least cut it.

[ser580]

Zhenya - you are a beautiful woman with D starts with A and ends with 4 letters. The arrogance of the amers is not even the 2nd happiness, this is their 1st rule. Autoham rides on a common road, and amers in the front garden that has an owner. Compare with Ukrainians, it’s strange, as soon as the amers stop financing, everything will end at once.

[Sergey39]

Sorry, but oddly enough, there are no captains in the Navy, there are only ship commanders.

[Fisherman]

at that time, the top-secret Harpoon was almost pulled out with a cable ... during the bulk, ours damaged the side of the Yankees and the Harpoon almost pulled - they hooked it, so ours were not at a loss and tried to throw a cable on it ... the Yankees went crazy from such impudence and resourcefulness of Russian sailors. ..such recklessness - to try to snatch out a charged rocket launcher, which the sailors were afraid to approach, no one could afford!

[solar]

What kind of garbage can not be read in our time.

Behind is our SKR-6, in the foreground is the destroyer Karon. The ends of thick pipes sticking out in the center of the picture are the launchers of the Harpoon. Just compare the height.
The real result of this story (and not those tales that compose the farther, the more) was only one - the just overhauled SKR-6 had to be written off as scrap metal as a result: ((
PS After this incident, the USSR confirmed the right of passage of the Americans through territorial waters, which the Americans wanted.

In 1989, the United States and the Soviet Union issued a Joint Statement of Uniform Recognition of the Rules of International Law Governing Innocent Passage. It was clear that the text of the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) reflected customary international law, and every ship, regardless of cargo, did not need permission to enter the territorial sea of ​​another state, as long as it adhered to it. to the definition of innocent passage in article 19 of UNCLOS.

During the Cold War, the United States retained the right of innocent passage under international law through the territorial waters of other nation states, including the USSR. This has led to several incidents such as the 1988 collision between the cruiser USS Yorktown and the frigate Selfless.

The following year, the Joint Statement was published, recognizing the rights of all countries to peacefully pass through the territorial waters of another country and ending such disputes between the two superpowers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA/USSR_Joint_Statement_on_Uniform_Acceptance_of_Rules_of_International_Law_Governing_Innocent_Passage
It turned out like with Damansky, when, as a result of the conflict, the Chinese, in accordance with international law, received an island for themselves. Only on Damansky people also died. :((

[Repellent]

Quote from solar

Behind is our SKR-6, in the foreground is the destroyer Karon. The ends of thick pipes sticking out in the center of the picture are the launchers of the Harpoon. Just compare the height

The harpoons were damaged in the fight between the Selfless - Yorktown pair, where does your photo come from?

Quote from solar

The real result of this story (and not those tales that compose the farther, the more) was only one - the just overhauled SKR-6 had to be written off as scrap metal as a result: ((

Yes, it's hard, probably, to work as a propagandist ... what kind of heresy you can't write. I understand, although I don't approve.

[solar]

Yes, it's hard, probably, to work as a propagandist ...

I understand that you work for them.
And it’s not destiny to know the fate of SKR-6, as I understand it. That's not what the job is...

[TermNachTer]

It was on the "Kerron" launchers "Harpoons" that they stood like this. On the "tic" they stood on the stern and at the moment of bulk they were deformed a little. I don’t remember about the TFR - 6, but the “Selfless” was supposed to be on the capital, so no damage was of much importance - anyway. dock repair.

[solar]

SKR-6 was laid up two years after the overhaul due to the damage received and then written off, never went to sea again. The harpoon at that time was by no means a new rocket, it was already mass-produced in the mid-70s

[Sergey39]

No need to twist the facts! SKR-6, after the bulk damaged the side of the destroyer Carol, and the SKR Selfless damaged the stern, side and launcher Harpoon of the Yorktown cruiser, a fire started on the cruiser. Then there were demonstrations of weapons, deck helicopters and the appearance of our helicopters in the sky. As a result, the Americans left our tervods. TFR-6, accepted into the fleet in 1966, withdrawn from the fleet in 1990.
The incident on Damansky was in 1969. And, after bilateral negotiations, the island was transferred in 2004.

[solar]

The Chinese were on the island already in the autumn of 1969 and did not leave anywhere after that and owned it virtually all the time. And the documents were signed only in 2004, yes.
The Americans passed through the Soviet terrorist waters without changing course, a year later ours admitted that they were right and have the right to do so in the future. As for the Harpoon, it has been mass-produced since 1975, and did not represent anything new.

TFR -6, accepted into the fleet in 1966, withdrawn from the fleet in 1990.

.. from January 23, 1984 to April 8, 1986, a major overhaul was underway at the Sevmorzavod named after S. Ordzhonikidze in Sevastopol.

Immediately after the incident, two years after the overhaul, in 1988, the SKR-6 was laid up due to the damage it received, did not go to sea again, and two years later it was handed over for cutting into metal.

[svp67]

Quote: rotmistr60

Next time, a "bulk" may occur.

The Chinese have so many ships at this point that they can put them "side to side" and block that fairway, and yet they send only ONE warship to intercept two "violators" ... Maybe you should pay attention to this moment . China does not want to take decisive steps yet. But how long will this “so far”, in the current situation, continue?

[Sumotori_380]

For a long time. China has no tradition of military victories. They say that they themselves do not perceive themselves as a nation capable of something serious in the military sense. Therefore, they can decide on direct military action only as a last resort.

[Fisherman]

China is in no hurry .... the PRC has 90 ships, they just can arrange a peaceful blockade around Taiwan ... but I understand that the PLA needs a good military operation, the Army is degrading without a war, Xi needs a military victory anyway.

[sergey_taf]

Naval_yat in the face, or rather in the stern - they already had to feel this in the 88th, when they were pearling not far from the Crimea ...
The reaction of the Yankees was interesting - they taught a lesson then. Arrogance SHOULD be periodically brought down like any bully ...

[freddyk]

Quote: rotmistr60

the American warship refused to change course, demanding that the Chinese "stay away"

Or so - the American warship refused to change course, demanding the Spanish lighthouse to stay away

[Fisherman]

so the Chinese practically piled on, the Yankees just turned away in time, otherwise they would have discussed something else now .... 137 meters for destroyers is practically an emergency.

[TermNachTer]

Considering how many Chinese have 52s and how quickly they rivet them, they can only "bulk" the entire mattress fleet ")))

[Lionnvrsk]

Well, what can I say, well done Chinese. They strained mattresses, demonstrated stamina and the will to go to the end. Americans are brave while they are afraid.
Once upon a time, our fleet could grin like that at p and n dos.

[Lech from Android.]

Americans have a very original understanding of freedom...
that is, freedom only for themselves, relatives ... for the rest, democracy is based on the rules.

[Egoza]

[quote] The American warship refused to change course, demanding that the Chinese "stay away", but the PLA Navy destroyer went across the American one, forcing it to change course and slow down to avoid a collision. [/ quote
At first he tried to bark, but ran into a wolfhound and quickly retreated. Signal flags were immediately hidden. This is where the USA is. They don't go into battle face to face.

[fa2998]

Quote: LIONnvrsk

Well, what can I say, well done Chinese. They strained mattresses, demonstrated stamina and the will to go to the end. Americans are brave while they are afraid.

As the United States swam, so they will walk. China's main market is overseas, and the rest pay in US dollars. Lose a profitable client - yes, let them swim.

[parabyd]

I don't think so anymore. The world is changing. Only in the last year have already been completely forgotten: democracy, international law, the free market, globalization and other things that were prayed for a couple of years ago.
There is a redistribution of the world between China and the United States. And in this situation, the trade turnover between them will be reduced in any case, and only trade in necessary goods will remain. And if this happens in any case, then why pray for him?

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote from: parabyd

I don't think so anymore. The world is changing.

from capitalist becomes what? where does it change? relegated profits to second place? capitalists? capitalists can be pushed aside either by monarchists or communists - I don’t observe their mass movements around the world .. neither China nor the SGA benefit from a decrease in profits, but this is all entourage ... moreover, it is the decision-makers who receive the profit, and not ordinary citizens .. they Have you lost your mind - to enter losses with unclear prospects? and for what?

[Essex62]

I agree, comrade. The problem is that China is considered communist. A very big misconception. The world workshop, which needs to sell its products, and to the bourgeoisie and overseers, from the "K" PC, to bring a margin. Look at the root (Kozma Prutkov), well, what kind of socialism is in China? Solid indecency, with a very irregular working day and low salary, among hard workers.

[VPK-65]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

from capitalist becomes what? where does it change? relegated profits to second place?

To answer this question, you have to look at its root: transition to the sixth technological mode.
https://general-skokov.livejournal.com/24586.html
Put yourself in the place of a conditional capitalist (you will have 2 different ones - an industrialist and a financial speculator). And then think about it - at the enterprises "robots work hard, not a person controlled by AI", the costs are minimal, and there is no one to sell ... - there are no workers, they have no money, and therefore there are no buyers. There is an exit? - for example, "distribution" (but not "to each according to his ability and from each according to his needs" as under communism, but rather ... "loyalty" to the ruling global group that usurped power on the planet). At the same time, money is not needed at all, it is no longer an instrument of power, so bankers are trite ... buried. Do financial speculators need this? - No. They have their own vision of the new world. This is the main contradiction that can only be resolved by a world war.
IMHO: if you want to know what will happen - consider the options yourself (reading ready-made conclusions is not very relevant - as a rule, most of them are biased by one or another group).
But the fact that capitalism is dying is a fact, and it was not socialism that became its gravedigger, but scientific and technological progress. The former world order will never be, and the name of the society that will replace capitalism has not yet been really invented (because it has not been implemented).

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: VPK-65

But the fact that capitalism is dying is a fact

how many thousands of years the desire of people to have more money, at the expense of their fellows, has been dying? and your ideas can absolutely also be inserted into stage 5 and stage 4 .. when the importance of workers decreased ... well, 100 years ago, assembly line, automation .. where did the capitalists disappear because of this?

Quote: VPK-65

and what will be the name of the society that will replace capitalism has not yet been really invented

in any way, because it will not exist .. only in theory it exists, but look out the window at practice, which has the same term as humanity .. or are we talking purely in theory? in theory, yes, everything will change - people won’t need much money and the exploitation of some by others .. communism in general .. which, unfortunately, has died .. but many minus ones believe that by denying the facts by putting a minus, they will help it to revive .. and not one answered, where is the world changing, because there is nothing to say and it will not change anywhere .. sorry, for the truth of life ..

[VPK-65]

Do not confuse the warm with the soft: "People's desire to have more money" - who needs "candy wrappers" for which it is impossible to buy anything? Money WAS simply the equivalent of goods, wealth and power.
At the 1st stage, they plan to replace them with "virtual accounts", and regardless of the amount of this money in the account, it is not planned to spend them, for example, on luxury goods for the average person (only on vital ones), and it will be unrealistic to accumulate anything on such an account - the amount is valid for no more than 3 months (then the account is reset to zero). Possible opposition from the population is only a refusal to pay with any cards, otherwise there will be trouble.

Your ideas can absolutely also be inserted into the 5th stage, and into the 4th .. when the importance of the workers has decreased

1. "Ideas" are not mine (I would impale for such ideas).
2. Do not insert into the 5th mode - it is the other way around INDUSTRIALIZATION, i.e. the growth of industrial enterprises, stupid mechanical production requiring a huge number of labor (factories with hundreds of thousands of workers). Have you seen current businesses? - 80 people, of which 50-60 are "initials", and 20-30 are maintenance personnel (adjusters, operators, etc., but soon they will be replaced by "skynet" - Artificial Intelligence).
PS I didn’t downvote you, I don’t understand who did it and why. There are no comments here - only "emotions" (that's why they are called jingoistic patriots), no constructive, suggestions, and even more so attempts to think and comprehend what is happening, and you ask them such questions ... apparently you have reflected ...

[hector]

Quote: VPK-65

Have you seen current businesses? - 80 people, of which 50-60 are "initials", and 20-30 are maintenance personnel (adjusters, operators, etc., but soon they will be replaced by "skynet" - Artificial Intelligence).

And how will AI replace the one who does the physical, not virtual, maintenance and repair of equipment with his hands?

[VPK-65]

Quote: ettore

maintenance and repair of equipment?

As a rule, 1 person is enough for maintenance, and repairs are not even provided for now - on the contrary, "planned destruction / wear" after 2 years of service with subsequent replacement. By the way, the repair team in the shops used to be 4 people. was - 2 locksmiths, 1 electrician, 1 turner (even a milling machine did not include itself - it was a third-party one as a rule) and this was for a workshop of 1000 people. so that even before their number did not make the weather.
PS but the service staff of the globalists naturally calculates how much it will be x.z. they themselves don’t know, because even they themselves are constantly cutting back - before they sang songs about the “golden billion” (+ service staff), and now about 500 thousand.
But listening to their nonsense (like Klaus Schwab with his "Great Reloaded") is not self-respecting. It is not a fact that they will succeed (every action has a reaction), although so far, for the most part, it is going almost according to plan. But to break is not to build, it is always easier (the main thing for them is the impossibility of returning). But when building a new system, there are too many options. IMHO: most likely at this stage, opinions (how to build) will be divided ...

[hector]

Quote: VPK-65

but the servants of the globalists naturally calculate how much it will be x.z. they themselves don’t know, because even they themselves are constantly cutting back - before they sang songs about the “golden billion” (+ service staff), and now about 500 thousand.

The idea of ​​population reduction should be started with those who proposed it and their followers, let them set an example and reduce themselves first of all.
P.S. These freaks forget about scientific, technological, and even genetic reproduction. 1 billion not enough to maintain a non-degrading level of their comfort and the life of their descendants for a long time.

[Sumotori_380]

China is in a serious debt crisis. And if amers can throw off their excess money supply into the outside world, then China will only have to learn how to do it. Or not learn. But, in any case, China will not destroy trade relations with the United States

[A2AD]

China is in a serious debt crisis.

Have you confused anything? Does China have a debt many times greater than its GDP, do its exaggerated banks burst, and the default is simply canceled by presidential decree? Can't China provide itself with elementary consumer goods, and if ties are broken, it will be left without pants in the most direct sense? It seemed to me that I heard this quite recently not at all about China, but exactly the opposite.

[Sumotori_380]

Didn't mix it up. Google it. For example, at the end of last year, the Bank for International Settlements announced that China's public debt amounted to 295 percent. By the way, the United States has 263. At the same time, the States have the opportunity to transfer the money supply that has been scrolled through the economy to the outside. What China can only dream of. True, Russia, having started abandoning the dollar, may have breathed timid hopes into China in this regard) The fact that our jingoistic publications do not talk about China's public debt does not mean that it does not exist

[Fisherman]

SWIMMING and WALKING are two different things!

[Ezekiel 25-17]

It is necessary to drown the Yankees, they understand only strength.

[Thrifty]

The Chinese must constantly strain the Yankees if they want to be reckoned with.

[Tryams]

unique aggressor seeker nation
with his whole fat ass sits in your yard and yells about aggression if you drive away

[Sergey Kotomin]

Spaniards: ... says A-853, please turn 15 degrees south to avoid collision with us. You're heading straight for us, 25 nautical miles.

Americans: ... we advise you to turn 15 degrees north to avoid a collision with us.

Spaniards: The answer is no. Repeat, turn 15 degrees south to avoid a collision.

Americans (other voice): The captain of the ship of the United States of America speaks to you. Turn 15 degrees north to avoid a collision.

Spaniards: We do not consider your proposal either possible or adequate; we advise you to turn south by 15 degrees so as not to crash into us.

Americans (in elevated tones): CAPTAIN RICHARD JAMES HOWARD SAYS WITH YOU, COMMANDER OF THE USS LINCOLN AIRCRAFT, Navy OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, SECOND OF GREAT MILITARY CORAL. We are escorted by 2 cruisers, 6 destroyers, 4 submarines and numerous support ships. I DO NOT ADVISE YOU - I ORDER TO CHANGE YOUR COURSE BY 15 DEGREES IN THE NORTH. OTHERWISE, WE WILL BE FORCED TO TAKE THE NECESSARY MEASURES TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF OUR SHIP. IMMEDIATELY REMOVE OUR COURSE !!!!

Spaniards: Juan Manuel Salas Alcantara speaks to you. We are two people. We are accompanied by a dog, dinner, 2 bottles of beer and a canary that is sleeping now. We are supported by the radio station “Channel 106 - Extreme Situations At Sea”. We are not going to turn anywhere, given that we are on land and are the A-853 lighthouse on Cape Finisterre of the Galician coast of Spain. We have no idea what place we have in size among the Spanish lighthouses. You can take all the ... measures you think are necessary and do whatever you want to ensure the safety of your ... ship that will smash into smithereens about these ... cliffs. Therefore, once again, we strongly recommend that you do the most meaningful thing: change your course 15 degrees south to avoid a collision.

Americans: OK, accepted, thank you. End of connection.

[digger]

"....... American destroyer "Chung-Hoon" (Chung-Hoon) ......" - ha-ha-ha-ha!

[VALERIK_097]

))) so be it, I blindly initially read "Chu-Khan" - I was surprised.

[Sumotori_380]

Like, it's funny that Asians command ships in Pen to owls? The ship was named after some Amer naval commander. Although, I agree, there is a certain irony

[lukash66]

Everything is right according to M. Zadornov about his lighthouse and striped AUG. Already now the ships are shutting off the tap for them incorrectly. And they apparently already forgot the Black Sea? They got it worse there.))))

[BorzRio]

Judging by the video, the American did not change course. As he walked straight and walked. Why the authors of the articles describe something on their own is not clear. But the fact remains that the Chinese are beginning to act more boldly.

[Sumotori_380]

Otherwise, they would not have collected such a crop of comments) An ordinary episode like that. And the mass of enthusiastic comments is both funny and sad at the same time.

[ximkim]

The PRC can establish control over Taiwan only by military means.
If it can, of course.

[ximkim]

Although.
The PRC has more ambitious tasks - Siberia and the Far East.
And then it will reach Taiwan.

[Ross xnumx]

As the Pentagon has repeatedly stated, there are no "no-go zones" for the US Navy, and Washington stands for "free navigation."

There is an adequate answer - to collect a warrant and cruise in the Gulf of Mexico to the delight of the Pentagon ...

[Essex62]

Captured and interned. There will be no ceremony. These are the territorial waters of mattresses. All the fleets dissatisfied with them must come there and beat their faces. Will there be many of these?

[Sumotori_380]

So what's stopping you from doing it? Ps. Is it possible to stir up a base in Cuba?)

[solar]

China considers the Taiwan Strait as its territorial waters...

Territorial waters - 22 km. Strait width

Width 130-380 km

Most of the strait is clearly neutral waters, even if one does not take into account the difficulties of belonging to Taiwan (Both sides believe that China is one, but disagree on where the authorities of this one China are located).
It is not clear why the Chinese did this. Or something is missing from the article.

[YanniKounnar]

Je n'ai pas accès à la vidéo mais si la photo est celle de cette action, il n'y a rien à redire le navire gris est le navire "privilégié" est c'est bien au navire "noir" de manœuvrer et même de manœuvrer nettement et suffisamment à l'avance afin d'éviter une situation "rapprochée".
Par contre le détroit au plus étroit faisant environ 70 milles nautiques je ne vois pas comment il pourrait s'agir des eaux territoriales Chinoises, même si Taïwan était déjà Chinois ?
C'est aussi stupide que si la France décidait qu'entre la France et la Corse (89 nm) c'était les eaux territoriales Françaises.

I don't have access to the video, but if there is a photo of this action, then there is nothing to complain about, the gray ship is a "privileged" ship, and the "black" ship must maneuver and even maneuver clearly and sufficiently in advance to avoid a "close" situation. On the other hand, the narrowest strait is about 70 nautical miles, I don't understand how it can be Chinese territorial waters even if Taiwan was already Chinese? This is as stupid as if France decided that between France and Corsica (89 nautical miles) is French territorial waters.

[YanniKounnar]

Oops !!
J'ai fini par trouver une vidéo pas très nette...Mais il semble bien que le navire Chinois passe devant le navire Américain qui arrive sur tribord...et là , (si c'est bien cette vidéo) c'est un manquement aux règles internationales de la part du ...Chinois. Le navire "privilegie" étant alors l'Americain.

[kill the fascist]

If the Chinese want to clear this strait from the presence of impudent Saxons, then they must act, including by such methods, and not express concern, concern, notes of protest, etc. The Chinese have an advantage in the fleet over the pendos themselves, and even in this geolocation they have an undeniable advantage that pendosy cannot challenge even together with allies. Ushlepki only understand when they get punched in the nose.

[Sumotori_380]

Territorial waters - 12 miles. The width of the Taiwan Strait is at least 80. And how can it be China's territorial waters, even if Taiwan is considered a Chinese province?

[dump22]

All true.
Just to clarify, the narrowest part of the Taiwan Strait is 69 miles wide.
Which still leaves your question relevant - will the Chinese be impudent, declaring international waters as their territorial waters?

[Sumotori_380]

The name of the destroyer is curious. Involuntarily remember the international

[restless]

Taiwan is to China like Ukraine is to Russia. It seems that they are also Chinese, but Taiwanese. There are also Russians in Ukraine, but Ukrainians both were created by the Chinese, and Ukraine by Russians, but they budded and think that they are better than others and they can do everything until they are bent over, and all this was warmed up by our Western partners, they really like to there were civil wars in foreign territories, they are getting fat on this, stealing useful resources from locals in debt for weapons, or just like that, and this is all over the world, while one of the parties lies that they are not like all their popular opponents and that they are their friends and they will accept them as their brothers because they are the superior race, and not the cattle who wants to call them to live as one family as their people, but when, as one of the suicide liar said, when you tell the people 100 times a lie, 101 times he begins to believe into it, and this is what happened in Ukraine and Taiwan, and all this was done by the Western intelligence services and their patrons, which means they are our enemies, and until our rulers say this, until then we will endure and apologize, and in order to stop this we need to withdraw capital and relatives back to Russia so that there is no blackmail through them on decision makers or to change these persons, for those who can make and execute decisions for the benefit of the people and the state ...

[Sumotori_380]

Curious what useful resources can be stolen from Taiwan - an island with an area smaller than the Moscow region?

[hector]

As the Pentagon has repeatedly stated, there are no "no-go zones" for the US Navy, and Washington stands for "free navigation."

Does this mean that anyone, anywhere can swim in American waters?

[dump22]

Yes, absolutely any ship can approach the US coast within 12 miles.
You can even go closer, but in this case it is already necessary to comply with the international rules of "free passage".

[hector]

Quote from: dump22

Yes, absolutely any ship can approach the US coast within 12 miles.
You can even go closer, but in this case it is already necessary to comply with the international rules of "free passage".

And Chinese or Russian ships of the Navy, and maybe even Iranian?

[dump22]

Yes, that's right.
Here such a paradox is observed: the United States rather scrupulously observes the 1982 UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, although they themselves didn't sign her!

True, warships will most likely be escorted by ships of their coast guard in territorial waters, but they do not create obstacles for "free passage".
In general, "freedom of navigation" is their fad.

[nordscout]

Respect loves smart, strong, decisive and, in places, unpredictable, keeping their promises....

[Antokha]

If these are your territorial waters, drown everything that has come and does not want to immediately dump it, fuck it. If you are full, then there is no need to express concern, especially from aboard a warship. Well, if these are not your territorial waters, then why start all this?
As for the video with our bulk from the 80s, it was bitter and ashamed for our country - the USSR. Some kind of American g_vnyuk is rushing at us, and we are full pants and lean on him with some kind of boat. I don't see any reason to be proud. I'm not talking about the sailors themselves, they are probably heroes. I'm talking about command.

[dump22]

China considers the Taiwan Strait as its territorial waters, since Taiwan is one of the provinces of China.

The territorial waters are 12 nautical miles (22,2 km) from the coast, and the width of the Taiwan Strait is 128 kilometers at its narrowest point.

22,2 x 2 = 44,4 km
Which is much less than 128 km.
So the entire strait is definitely not continuous Chinese waterways, and even if Taiwan is recognized as Chinese territory.