Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation: Traitors of the Motherland were left alone

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Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation: Traitors of the Motherland were left alone

Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev said that any political leader who attempts to change the discourse of the country's development that has developed after February 24, 2022, will be declared a traitor to his Motherland. The politician wrote about this in his TG.

The departed representatives of the “honest elite” keep repeating how well our country will heal after the fall of the “regime” and return to the non-binary European bosom. They also believe that all the ideologemes of an unnecessary patriotic war will be curtailed and a universal holiday of freedom will reign. I doubt that any of them truly sincerely believe this. However, I am sure of one thing: the road to a “bright” European future is closed to them forever. And the point is not only that we are not loved there and are not expected. One thing needs to be learned: Russia is no longer the country it was before the war. No new leader will be able to destroy the memory and blood-bonded values ​​of our people. It is for this reason that only those apostates who do not consider it necessary to honor the memory of our dead citizens, civilians and soldiers of Russia can dream of returning to a friendly European family.

- said the former chairman of the Russian government.



At the same time, Medvedev stressed, all these figures still hope to someday return to their country, however, there is no turning back for them.

The traitors to the Motherland were left alone, and now no one needs them. So, let them get angry as much as they like. Or under a glass of red they remember the lost Fatherland and former glory

- concluded the ex-president of the Russian Federation.

Recall that the Call of the People movement, in its initiative sent to State Duma deputies, proposes to deprive foreign agents, cultural figures and those who criticize the special operation carried out by Russia, state pensions and other payments.
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  1. +13
    3 June 2023 13: 16
    Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev said that any political leader who attempts to change the discourse of the country's development that has developed after February 24, 2022, will be declared a traitor to his Motherland.

    DAM certainly "burns", but here he is right. It is high time to introduce such measures.
    1. +17
      3 June 2023 13: 34
      Somehow, however, he characterizes everything too radically. I think that it is necessary to change the discourse of the country's development. I thought so until 24.02.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX, and now I think. And I don't like the way the SVO is conducted either. It turns out, treacherous thoughts?
      And, in fact, how to go to the polls with such attitudes? The President, for example. If the candidate plans to follow the same course as the incumbent leader, then why go to the polls at all? And if others, then a traitor turns out or what?
      In general, Medvedev made a strange statement. It would be better to continue calling for the bombing of Ukraine and threatening the West. Here everyone would agree with his rhetoric, at least without any special questions.
      1. +32
        3 June 2023 13: 44
        And when did DAM make non-strange statements? A person is trying to actualize himself within the agenda, in which his real participation is probably close to 0. Mostly through populism.
        With his means and with his more or less free (at the moment) status as a political figure, instead of shaking the air, he could travel around the rear of the LDNR, bring gum. help, visit at least the rear units to raise morale and clarify how we conduct NWO. Deal with organizational issues on the restoration and establishment of a normal life in the "new" territories of the Russian Federation.
        That is, to be, figuratively speaking, "almost at the cutting edge of the question." Noo, instead we all see what he's up to - he "threatens Curzon". For a separate part of our society, which still looks politicians in the mouth, this inspires, but, I would like to hope that this part is becoming smaller.
        1. +15
          3 June 2023 14: 04
          It is difficult and dangerous to travel around the rear of the LDNR for the benefit of the cause, it’s easier to swing your broom without any responsibility, thanks to people like him, the “honest elite” who left, holds a glass of red wine in his hands, and not soldering gruel in places not so remote ...
          1. 0
            4 June 2023 10: 43
            Why are they here? To sue them - to promote, to spend money, nerves, time? Let their puppeteers deal with them. And the fact that they robbed and took away ... so let them choke!
        2. +5
          3 June 2023 19: 15
          The face of Dmitry Anatolich seems to me like a well-drinking, non-drying comrade for the last six months ... and somehow all these warlike speeches are not worth serious discussion
          1. 0
            4 June 2023 10: 48
            When you are the same age, compare your scoreboards.
        3. +3
          3 June 2023 21: 40
          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          ... to visit at least the rear units to raise morale and clarify in the course of how we conduct NWO.

          Imagine - "there is no money (shells, walkie-talkies, drones), but you hold on. All the best. Have a good mood" So, it's better to "threaten Curzon." Less harm. He really needs a pay cut.
        4. 0
          4 June 2023 13: 24
          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          A person is trying to actualize himself within the agenda, in which his real participation is probably close to 0. Mostly through populism.


          On the other hand, he says the right things and quite fluently, the results of his activities raise questions, but as a speaker it will do. We have a problem with campaigning.
      2. +17
        3 June 2023 13: 49
        In general, Medvedev made a strange statement.

        You can say anything, but in reality? Look how the mustachioed kissed with the old "prima donna washcloth" at the funeral of Zaitsev, and he is not the last person in the country.
      3. +27
        3 June 2023 14: 24
        In essence, his whole heartfelt speech was reduced to the phrase "whoever doubts the absolute correctness of the Guarantor, that enemy." Only slightly disguised this idea with abstruse words.
        1. +3
          3 June 2023 18: 04
          Quote: UAZ 452
          In essence, his whole heartfelt speech was reduced to the phrase "whoever doubts the absolute correctness of the Guarantor, that enemy." Only slightly disguised this idea with abstruse words.

          And then another "guarantor" will come, and they will return again. It has already happened more than once, they were enemies, now they are already present in the school curriculum.
          There has never been a political discussion in our country, there is always one-Suppressive of all. Sometimes it changes only by a change of leader. hi
          1. -3
            3 June 2023 18: 23
            There has never been a political discussion in our country, always one-overwhelming all.

            Didn't you notice that every political discussion in Russia in 2-3 years leads to chaos or dictatorship (to prevent chaos)?
          2. 0
            3 June 2023 18: 48
            Quote: fa2998
            There has never been a political discussion in our country, there is always one-Suppressive of all. Sometimes it changes only by a change of leader.

            And it usually changes drastically.
            Nearly 180'. hi
          3. +3
            3 June 2023 19: 32
            Quote: fa2998
            There has never been a political discussion in our country, there is always one-Suppressive of all. Sometimes it changes only by a change of leader.

            Well, it's time to end this stupid story. It's time to get to the level where we have a permanent political discussion.
      4. +7
        3 June 2023 14: 28
        Quote: Plate

        And, in fact, how to go to the polls with such attitudes? The President, for example. If the candidate plans to follow the same course as the incumbent leader, then why go to the polls at all? And if others, then a traitor turns out or what?
        . .
        All candidates are always for everything good and against everything bad. They always promise to distribute the land to the peasants and the factories to the workers. They promise to lower prices and raise wages. Here also choose! I don't see the point in democracy at all. This is the first time I see these people. I don't know them, why should I choose someone? .
        1. +4
          3 June 2023 15: 46
          Try to vote not for people, but for the programs they go with.
          1. +6
            3 June 2023 17: 10
            And what, unless one of them was once going to fulfill the promise before the elections?
            1. 0
              3 June 2023 18: 30
              And what, unless one of them was once going to fulfill the promise before the elections?

              Gathering it can and was going to, but as a rule, plans did not fit with reality. ".... yes, they forgot about the ravines ..."
            2. +1
              3 June 2023 19: 34
              It is unlikely, but this way you can at least express your mood and your wishes, so that the winning candidate is aware that if he satisfies these wishes a little, then at the end of the term he will go for a walk.
          2. AUL
            +2
            3 June 2023 17: 42
            Quote: Plate
            Try to vote not for people, but for the programs they go with.

            Naive! Do not deceive such a sin!laughing
            1. 0
              3 June 2023 18: 31
              Naive! Such a sin can not be deceived!laughing

              But he promised to marry belay
          3. 0
            3 June 2023 18: 53
            Quote: Plate
            Try to vote not for people, but for the programs they go with.

            I agree completely.
            But you failed to upvote.
            There is some scam going on with the voting. am
          4. -2
            3 June 2023 23: 23
            The program is a few sentences written on a piece of paper. Without a person to bring these few proposals to life, they are worth nothing.
            Moreover, nothing threatens anyone for not fulfilling this program.
            In fact, it is proposed to vote for what someone wrote on paper and for which he is not responsible.
            1. 0
              4 June 2023 16: 08
              So it turns out that you need to vote either for the current ruler - because you know what to expect from him - or for a neighbor or work colleague - because you know him well in general. The rest we don't know at all.
    2. +4
      3 June 2023 13: 46
      DAM certainly "burns", but here he is right. It is high time to introduce such measures.
      The question is, why not enter?
      1. +6
        3 June 2023 13: 48
        Probably because they understand the delusional nature of these measures?
      2. +3
        3 June 2023 18: 58
        Quote: megadeth
        DAM certainly "burns", but here he is right. It is high time to introduce such measures.
        The question is, why not enter?

        Double dealing.
        If he had rolled this proposal into the State Duma as the head of the United Russia, it would have been accepted immediately and with a squeal.
        But this is not being done.
        Then everyone thinks for himself.
    3. -4
      3 June 2023 13: 50
      Traitors have no place in Russia! Let them live as they want abroad. I think they will regret it soon. fool crying
      1. +1
        3 June 2023 14: 09
        They won’t regret it if you don’t force them, they left with decent fat, and their conscience has long been 0, they obviously rushed not to live in poverty ...
      2. +13
        3 June 2023 14: 48
        The whole question is, among whom there are more traitors - among those who left, or among those who remained, especially among those who anathematize those who left.
        1. +8
          3 June 2023 16: 18
          among the departed
          Those who leave are different. We are all set on clowns. But honestly, who is the greater enemy of Russia balabol alkin or Chubais? Makarevich only hisses, but Abramovich has real cases against Russia
          1. +1
            3 June 2023 19: 04
            Quote: Gardamir
            Makarevich only hisses, but Abramovich has real cases against Russia

            Known: "We do not hand over our own."
            ?: "ours, - who is this?".
            A complete list would be voiced, and everything would fall into place.
    4. +18
      3 June 2023 14: 09
      here he is right

      What is right? I, too, do not like it very much, for example, what has been happening for a year and a half - yes, we are at least half the population! Who would still like to change the discourse of the country's development to something significantly more sane. Instead of that incomprehensible crap that we have going on. And what - now we all go in friendly ranks to sign up as traitors? Why suddenly? Meanwhile, there is an alternative point of view on who exactly the real traitors are in our state ..
      1. -30
        3 June 2023 14: 12
        Quote: paul3390
        Yes, we are at least half the population

        You flatter yourself. Even in such an arboretum as VO has become over the past couple of years, there are only a few specimens like you Yes
        1. +12
          3 June 2023 16: 19
          And we have an evaluation mechanism here. Thanks to him, we'll see who's more.

          Those who are simply delighted with what is happening and the wise decisions of our adored leadership, or those who have already earned a bald head, feverishly scratching their heads in an attempt to understand what kind of epic crap is going on ..
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        2. AUL
          +5
          3 June 2023 17: 50
          Quote: Repellent
          You flatter yourself. Even in such an arboretum as VO has become over the past couple of years, there are only a few specimens like you

          An arboretum is a special type of botanical garden or plant collection where various types and varieties of trees and shrubs are grown. The term "dendrarium" comes from the Greek words "δένδρον" (dendron), meaning "tree", and "αρεῖον" (areion), which translates as "sanctuary" or "place".
          This is for general development.
          But in essence - look at the assessment of your post, and you will understand who the "units" are here.
          1. -13
            3 June 2023 18: 10
            Quote from AUL
            An arboretum is a special type of botanical garden or plant collection where different species and varieties are grown. trees...

            I congratulate you - you absolutely correctly understood this part of the thought.

            Quote from AUL
            look at the rating of your post, and you will understand who is the "units" here

            Hmm ... but here you are out of luck. Well, okay, I'm kind today, and there is a little time:

            - when I registered this nickname, which was a little over a year ago, I was assigned the number 216000+
            - it is clear that not all nicknames that are on the site are "live"
            - but even if at least 5% are "alive", there are more than 10000 users on the site
            - that is, an incomplete platoon of tree-like ones (there are now 27 minuses), against the background of these 10000+ - this is "nothing".

            So clearer? wink lol
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            2. +1
              3 June 2023 18: 33
              So the assessment is integral. That is, either conditionally 4986 people out of 10000 are in favor of your comment, and 5014 are against it. Well, or 86 and 114, respectively, out of 200 active participants
              1. 0
                3 June 2023 19: 21
                You are right, active ones are only a mirror of the general attitude.
                Behind each is a passive, even reading "VO". hi
            3. 0
              4 June 2023 06: 44
              I can congratulate you
              haha I'm joining!
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        1. +3
          3 June 2023 16: 20
          How funny you are spitting saliva dripping rotten posts from a burning tank on the front line ... laughing
    5. 0
      3 June 2023 14: 10
      ATU them, Anatolyevich ..... Burn them, Vladimirovich!
    6. +17
      3 June 2023 14: 15
      What is he right about? For example, tomorrow I am president. I will stop hanging the Mausoleum, the tax for the oligarchs is 13%. UAV manufacturers have a minimum tax and favorable conditions. From Shebekino I will drive away ukrov for 500 km. That is, I will change the discourse. So I'm a traitor.
      The discourse that ladies like is trade with Europe in exchange for shelling
      1. -11
        3 June 2023 14: 24
        Quote: Gardamir
        oligarchs tax13%

        Few. Need 113%.

        Quote: Gardamir
        For example, tomorrow I am the president

        Kerya, what kind of president are you? Did you find a job, a miracle in feathers? I've found it, count up, even though we are the same age. Yes
        1. +1
          3 June 2023 17: 32
          You are well done! You write such things correctly)) And why do you get so many downvotes on the site? I will not apply my mind))
        2. +4
          3 June 2023 19: 25
          Quote: Repellent
          Did you find a job, a miracle in feathers? I've found it, count up, even though we are the same age.

          Fee, sorry for the indiscreet question, from the post or by sign?
          1. -8
            3 June 2023 19: 30
            Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
            Quote: Repellent
            Did you find a job, a miracle in feathers? I've found it, count up, even though we are the same age.

            Fee, sorry for the indiscreet question, from the post or by sign?

            Not for both options. For what purpose are you interested?
      2. -4
        3 June 2023 15: 13
        Quote: Gardamir
        What is he right about? For example, tomorrow I am president. I will stop hanging the Mausoleum, the tax for the oligarchs is 13%. UAV manufacturers have a minimum tax and favorable conditions. From Shebekino I will drive away ukrov for 500 km. That is, I will change the discourse. So I'm a traitor.
        The discourse that ladies like is trade with Europe in exchange for shelling

        And the day after tomorrow the oligarchs will overthrow you. And at best you will end up like Hussein, and at worst like Gaddafi.
        1. +8
          3 June 2023 16: 11
          By the way, under Yeltsin, there was a tax and the Mausoleum was not hung. As for the fact that the oligarchs can overthrow and this is entirely Putin's merit, so drop the country into deaf feudalism. it takes a lot of effort.
        2. +1
          3 June 2023 17: 43
          And if he is their first one, well, "overthrow", how then to be?))
        3. +1
          3 June 2023 19: 30
          Quote: Katya_Ivanova
          And the day after tomorrow the oligarchs will overthrow you. And at best you will end up like Hussein, and at worst like Gaddafi.

          Perfectly!
          You have identified our oligarchs in the same flock with the overthrowers of Hussein and Gaddafi.
          You can add the overthrowers of Milosevic there.
          It can be seen that you would be glad to join this flock or get drunk on it.
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    1. +11
      3 June 2023 13: 26
      Quote: Sergey Dvornikov
      But what about those who took the oath, consider themselves a patriot and sit back in the rear and think about which foreign tank is worse?

      You are a granddaughter, if this is about me, then I started my war in Vietnam, in XNUMX.
      1. -5
        3 June 2023 13: 40
        About all of you! I live in the yard where military pensioners of the Strategic Missile Forces and others received apartments - and you won’t believe they all consider themselves Putin’s patriots - but not a single one went to the war to defend the Motherland since 2014! They all somehow prefer to "beat" a fascist on the Internet!
        1. +5
          3 June 2023 13: 49
          Quote: Sergey Dvornikov
          About all of you! I live in the yard where the military pensioners of the Military Aviation Administration of the Strategic Missile Forces and others received apartments

          You live in an apartment that the state gave you, and back in Soviet times, dad bought cooperative apartments for me and himself and built another house himself. And my son and his grandson are now where the patriots are.
          1. -13
            3 June 2023 13: 57
            Got a mortgage! Go to the root! We are talking about you false patriots hiding behind the backs of the soldiers! Just do not hurry about your age - our man retires at 65! So any of you can pick up a Kalash and walk 200 meters - destroying the fascist!
            1. +5
              3 June 2023 14: 04
              Quote: Sergey Dvornikov
              Got a mortgage! Go to the root! We are talking about you false patriots hiding behind the backs of the soldiers!

              Sorry, but we won our wars and didn’t hide behind our backs, now it’s your turn, or is it scary?
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                1. +3
                  3 June 2023 14: 34
                  Quote: Sergey Dvornikov
                  In 20 years of your service, you haven’t lifted anything heavier than PM

                  Not 20 years, just 50 years.
                2. AUL
                  +2
                  3 June 2023 18: 06
                  Quote: Sergey Dvornikov
                  After all, all the same, the men who, instead of you, will now return in the trenches and ask you for patriots!

                  Please tell me, dear newly registered ultra-supermegapatriot, are you broadcasting from a trench now, or from a burning tank? How is it with you, does the Internet catch well? wassat
              2. -4
                3 June 2023 15: 34
                Well, what is the result of your military service? Your generation pissed off / (sold) the USSR, the country of which you swore an oath. However, you allowed it to be torn apart and disposed of. And what is happening now is a direct consequence of your actions. Warriors who "did not sit behind their backs." But now you are all retired, and you are driving the young to clean up this shit.
                1. 0
                  3 June 2023 16: 54
                  It is useless to prove it to them! They sold themselves for beads (salaries, pensions, free apartments) to Putin's regime! And in the army, not only are there no new high-precision weapons - there are no radio communications, binoculars, stoves, body armor, etc., that is, something that is vital for a soldier!
                  1. AUL
                    +3
                    3 June 2023 18: 08
                    Quote: Sergey Dvornikov
                    And in the army, not only are there no new high-precision weapons - there are no radio communications, binoculars, stoves, body armor, etc., that is, something that is vital for a soldier!

                    Who should be thanked for this?
                2. -1
                  3 June 2023 19: 43
                  Quote: Denis
                  what is happening now is a direct consequence of your actions. Warriors who "did not sit behind their backs." But now you are all retired, and you are driving the young to clean up this shit.

                  Wrong (at least).
                  Others are running.
                  And not to "rake shit", but to produce.
              3. -1
                3 June 2023 19: 33
                Sorry, but we won our wars and did not hide behind our backs

                But this argument does not withstand any criticism: our country has not waged such a war for 80 years, primarily in terms of losses. So all of them in Vietnam, Afghanistan, with its 15 thousand dead in 10 years, both Chechen companies - in comparison, in the current non-war, did not stand close. And the veterans of that war, in comparison with which the NWO already falls short (and thank God!), are no longer in their right mind and solid memory. Or are you a veteran of the Great Patriotic War? Have you already celebrated your 100th anniversary?
            2. +3
              3 June 2023 14: 06
              Quote: Sergey Dvornikov
              Just do not hurry about your age - our man retires at 65! T

              And I retired at 70. to each his own.
            3. +13
              3 June 2023 14: 35
              I made you laugh about 200 meters with a Kalash :)) You are not respectable, not only in the war, but you didn’t even serve in the army if you carry such nonsense, trying to send old people with a bunch of sores to real databases. You yourself probably didn’t lift anything heavier than a computer mouse in computer wankers - shooters, but you are trying to shame people who have more than one war behind them.
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      2. +3
        3 June 2023 13: 55
        One hundred percent, I support Vass Vlad!
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    3. +3
      3 June 2023 13: 30
      Quote: Sergey Dvornikov
      But what about those who took the oath, consider themselves a patriot and sit back in the rear and think about which foreign tank is worse?

      If you once again say bad things about your father, Surezha, even a bomb shelter will not help you.
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    4. +7
      3 June 2023 14: 03
      with those who swore

      And I swore an oath to a completely different country. And if she calls me, as a citizen of the Soviet Union I will go without hesitation.
      1. -1
        3 June 2023 14: 29
        Quote: paul3390
        And I swore an oath to a completely different country. And if she calls me, as a citizen of the Soviet Union I will go without hesitation.

        And I gave to another country and for it I will always go into the fire and enter.
        1. -1
          3 June 2023 15: 16
          Why didn't you go when the country you took the oath of was drank and disposed of a bunch of scum. And now to speak out, not toss bags.
          1. +2
            3 June 2023 16: 10
            Remind the text of the oath?

            I am always ready, on the orders of the Soviet Government, to defend my homeland - the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

            So - alas - the Soviet Government did not order anything to me then .. And myself - then I didn’t understand much at all because of my youth and inexperience .. Unfortunately.
      2. -11
        3 June 2023 14: 29
        Ahh how! So leave my country if the one from which you are - it is no longer there or go as a Volunteer! Don't drift!
        1. +5
          3 June 2023 14: 36
          Quote: Sergey Dvornikov
          Ahh how! So leave my country if the one from which you are - it is no longer there or go as a Volunteer! Don't drift!

          So I don’t live in Ukraine anyway.
        2. +7
          3 June 2023 14: 39
          Quote: Sergey Dvornikov
          Go volunteer! Don't drift!


          I apologize to ask - "Are you at the front, or are you at the warehouse in the rear?"
          1. +2
            3 June 2023 16: 14
            Yes, this is generally some kind of liberal crypto-Ukrainian ... negative
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        3. +1
          3 June 2023 16: 12
          What country would the noble don deign to call his own? Israel? USA? Poland? Really .... Tsegabonia? So - this is not a country at all .. And even more so - not yours.
        4. +2
          3 June 2023 19: 53
          Quote: Sergey Dvornikov
          Ahh how! So leave my country if the one from which you are - it is no longer there or go as a Volunteer! Don't drift!

          Your posts, my dear, at least speak of bad manners,
          as a marsimum about attempts to incite social discord.
          Calm down.
      3. -1
        3 June 2023 14: 42
        If all the officers talked like that in civilian life? I think you are wrong. The country and the people are the same.
        1. +2
          3 June 2023 16: 18
          No. The country is completely different. At all. And they rule it - just the characters who ruined my homeland.
          1. +1
            3 June 2023 16: 45
            Which of the politicians of the 90s is now in the ranks?
      4. -5
        3 June 2023 15: 22
        Quote: paul3390
        if she calls me - as a citizen of the Soviet Union I will go without hesitation

        Rotten smear.
        1. +1
          3 June 2023 16: 13
          Yes? Do you, my dear, have an alternative point of view? You see, I'm not in the habit of swearing allegiance twice.
          1. -5
            3 June 2023 16: 17
            Quote: paul3390
            Yes? Do you, my dear, have an alternative point of view?

            Agas. In short - for the family, native graves and dear birch trees.

            Quote: paul3390
            You see, I don’t have the habit of swearing allegiance twice somehow

            I don't care about your habits. The name has changed - the country has remained. And you are its inhabitant, obey all the laws. If you don't obey, sit. Yes, it is correct.

            And here you are willing to play sophistry ... not with your, my friend, intellect. laughing request
            1. +1
              3 June 2023 20: 03
              Quote: Repellent
              The name has changed - the country has remained.

              If you do not understand that not only the name has changed,
              if you do not understand what a social system is,
              then you (as it were more polite to say) only age will correct.
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      5. 0
        3 June 2023 16: 48
        Quote: paul3390
        And if she calls me, as a citizen of the Soviet Union I will go without hesitation.

        Will never call again. The Soviet Union is dead and will not rise again: there are no miracles.
  3. +20
    3 June 2023 13: 18
    How now to be with those who kissed the hands of "traitors to the Motherland"? Or is Medvedev barking while the caravan moves on?
    1. Alf
      +12
      3 June 2023 13: 20
      Quote: Boris Sergeev
      How now to be with those who kissed the hands of "traitors to the Motherland"?

      "This is different" ...
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      1. +6
        3 June 2023 13: 52
        Don’t throw up an idea! However, even without this possible candidate, the status of state awards is driven under the plinth
        1. +1
          3 June 2023 14: 40
          Quote from: dmi.pris1
          Don’t throw up an idea! However, even without this possible candidate, the status of state awards is driven under the plinth

          They began to drive him there back in the late 1960s.
    3. +3
      3 June 2023 13: 37
      Quote: Boris Sergeev
      How now to be with those who kissed the hands of "traitors to the Motherland"?

      And he did this many-sided as the head of the United Russia.
    4. +3
      3 June 2023 13: 53
      Speaking of caravans. Once the proverb sounded, the dog barks, the wind wears. But once one stupid general decided to show off his knowledge of proverbs, but forgot, so he inserted about the caravan.
  4. +2
    3 June 2023 13: 19
    The Call of the People, in its initiative sent to the State Duma deputies, proposes to deprive foreign agents, cultural figures and those who criticize the special operation carried out by Russia, state pensions and other payments.

    Well, how logical.
    As the saying goes - "you criticize, offer", otherwise everyone and everyone can criticize (that is, not only everyone), but no one can offer how to solve the problem clearly and realistically.
    1. -5
      3 June 2023 13: 25
      Still such people should be deprived of Russian citizenship and sent to the countries of democracy. Those who left, do not let in. We do not need here anti-Russian partisans leading sabotage and sabotage against Russia. It's a shame we don't do that.
    2. +6
      3 June 2023 13: 57
      Quote: Irokez
      As they say - "offer criticism", otherwise everyone and everything can be criticized (that is, not only all), and no one can offer how to solve the problem clearly and realistically.

      He did not propose, he only commented.
      And the language is already similar to the language of Klitschko.
      This:
      One thing needs to be learned: Russia is no longer the country it was before the pre-war period.

      how to understand?
  5. 0
    3 June 2023 13: 20
    to deprive foreign agents, cultural figures and those who criticize the special operation carried out by Russia, state pensions and other payments.

    And why not?
  6. -3
    3 June 2023 13: 22
    This is a great initiative. Take all the traitors and send them to the front along with the Chechens, if they try to commit treason, shoot them.
    1. -6
      3 June 2023 13: 25
      So big and believe Putin's patriots!
      1. +4
        3 June 2023 14: 23
        Such a small and already brainwashed traitor. He still believes in "European values" and "fair market".
      2. 0
        3 June 2023 14: 41
        Quote: Sergey Dvornikov
        So big and believe Putin's patriots!

        Well, not everyone believes Navalny and others like him.
  7. +6
    3 June 2023 13: 23
    At the same time, Medvedev stressed, all these figures still hope to someday return to their country, however, there is no turning back for them.

    It’s very easy to return, it’s not for nothing that ONVAMNEDIMON himself, when he was president, danced at the prima donna’s birthday party and the mustachioed secretary kisses her hands.
    1. +3
      3 June 2023 13: 29
      That is the whole answer to the proposals of the "Call of the People". What is allowed. Jupiter is not allowed to the bull."
  8. +1
    3 June 2023 13: 26
    It is for this reason that only those apostates who do not consider it necessary to honor the memory of our dead citizens, civilians and soldiers of Russia can dream of returning to a friendly European family.

    Well, that's it ... We will rob ...
  9. +5
    3 June 2023 13: 33
    any political leader who attempts to change the discourse of the country's development that has developed after February 24, 2022, will be declared a traitor to his homeland.

    This definition includes Girkin, Khodakovsky, Alksnis, Grubnik, Prigozhin, Kadyrov, as well as Kedmi, Bagdasarov, Kulikov, Kalashnikov, Gurulev, Dugin, the late Tatarsky, Prilepin, Sladkov, Kots ....
    1. -11
      3 June 2023 13: 53
      Quote: Rumata
      Girkin, Khodakovsky, Alksnis, Grubnik, Prigozhin, Kadyrov, as well as Kedmi, Bagdasarov, Kulikov, Kalashnikov, Gurulev, Dugin, the late Tatarsky, Prilepin, Sladkov, Kots

      Sweat, blood, sand, shit and girlish tears...
      1. +2
        3 June 2023 14: 56
        Quote: Repellent
        Quote: Rumata
        Girkin, Khodakovsky, Alksnis, Grubnik, Prigozhin, Kadyrov, as well as Kedmi, Bagdasarov, Kulikov, Kalashnikov, Gurulev, Dugin, the late Tatarsky, Prilepin, Sladkov, Kots

        Sweat, blood, sand, shit and girlish tears...

        I would even say winked that you need to carry nonsense carefully, trying not to spill it.
        Good is just complete nonsense. wink
    2. +5
      3 June 2023 14: 19
      any political leader who attempts to change discourse development of the country, which took shape after February 24, 2022, will be declared a traitor to his Motherland.

      Wikipedia:
      Discourse[1], or discourse[2][3] (from late Latin discursus - reasoning, argument; originally - bustle, vanity, maneuver, circulation) is a multi-valued term meaning, in a general sense, speech, the processes of linguistic activity and the systems of concepts that imply them.


      DS: Nickname of the brain"
      Occurs often after a search.
      1. 0
        3 June 2023 17: 32
        Why not? Substitute your definition:
        any political leader who attempts to change concept system country development

        - and everything turns out quite logically. Especially in terms of the current interpretation of the term "concepts". wassat
  10. 0
    3 June 2023 13: 38
    Medvedev stunned me ... I didn’t expect such words from him ... if he also confirms them with deeds, it will be something.
    1. +11
      3 June 2023 13: 58
      The talker is smart and smart.
      . This is for life.
  11. +4
    3 June 2023 13: 44
    Wow... Who wrote this text to him?? Outstanding philologist.
    1. -2
      3 June 2023 13: 52
      Quote: Galleon
      Who wrote this text to him? Outstanding philologist.

      1. 0
        3 June 2023 21: 02
        I don't understand what the downside is. It seems like a good group was thrown off ... Although, maybe they are downvoted due to the fact that explosions and shots of music and words are not audible.
  12. -3
    3 June 2023 13: 44
    All these figures of "culture" and other mouth singers need to undergo voluntary express testing with the following questions:
    1. Did these "cultural" and plywood singers always and everywhere pay taxes on their antics? Aaa???
    2. Didn't they have to deliberately drop a bar of soap in a public shower, so that later they could bend over for it no less deliberately?
    3. Whose Crimea?
    4. Whose Golan?
    And everything will immediately become clear.
    1. +4
      3 June 2023 16: 54
      1. If it comes to that, then absolutely every citizen must answer such a question voluntarily and publicly, no? I understand civil servants to be singled out on this basis in a more accountable layer. But I don't understand it anymore.
      2. Some stupid question. If someone did this, then shouldn't it be completely parallel to the rest? This act does not pose any threat to society at all.
      Let me answer the next 2 questions.
      3. Russian. After all, Russian troops are standing there.
      4. Jewish. There are Jewish troops there.
      Your questions are strange.
  13. HAM
    +5
    3 June 2023 13: 44
    If our media did not constantly chat about those who left, where they pooped, where they danced, where they went on stage, then people would have forgotten about them long ago ..... and "journalists" make their hype either only on well-known names, then do they get paid...
  14. +19
    3 June 2023 13: 49
    If translated into ordinary: "what I want, then I do. I will not let anyone object, I will immediately declare a traitor"
    Remember only the son in Omerik and the exchange of Medvedchuk's "unnecessary" godfather for the Azovites, instead of the promised "tribunal"
  15. -1
    3 June 2023 13: 51
    What did he want to say? Thought in what? In that ? :
    So, let them get angry as much as they like.
    otherwise it is completely incomprehensible, chzf - just "to declare aloud traitors"? or what does that mean? what are the criteria. And since when has criticism become dangerous if it is good, as opposed to discrediting?

    I am worried that I will have to jail all the local KomDivs of VO under the article Traitors to the Motherland, as they criticize from and to.
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    1. +3
      3 June 2023 14: 43
      Quote: Sergey Dvornikov
      False patriots, you don’t give me minuses - this will not help to beat the fascist, but go to war, because you are very professional destroyers of fascism!

      Well, you yourself, in what war and against whom.
    2. +2
      3 June 2023 14: 46
      False patriots, you don’t give me minuses - this will not help to beat the fascist, but go to war, because you are very professional destroyers of fascism! And finally show that - rotten America and the West that you are the masters on the planet and that the world should dance exactly to your tune!


      And how are you already, ready for the privates in the trenches?
  17. +8
    3 June 2023 13: 55
    any political leader who attempts to change the discourse of the country's development that has developed after February 24, 2022, will be declared a traitor to his Motherland


    Ifonchika listen to this do not respect yourself.
    Yes, if tomorrow the GDP suddenly gets up on the wrong foot and announces a change in "discourse", Medvedev will be the first to announce another "brilliant" decision.

    For those who do not think so, I advise you to reconsider the meeting of the Security Council on February 21, 2022, how Medvedev spoke there, how he verbosely wriggled and dodged.
    Among other things, he argued that the Westerners "...after a while...they will get tired of this situation, they themselves will ask us to return...and restore relations...the situation will cool down...".
  18. +1
    3 June 2023 13: 57
    And why and why do we pay pensions to those who have left for Israel? Let's start with them. and then the turn comes to these.
    Those who left in a year are mostly trepachi and listening to them is unpleasant, but that's all, but Israel supplies both UAVs and shells and fights in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and supports America and NATO in everything. It's like DRG America against Russia. Not a citizen of Russia, or dual citizenship, please choose one.
    Especially now one shelupon from Russia has gathered in Israel.
    A pension is an allowance for living in a country in which you are its citizen, and you can only receive it while living in Russia. hi Yes No. soldier
    1. 0
      4 June 2023 20: 30
      What are these discoveries? A person pays taxes all his working life (in a socialist economy this may be formalized differently, but the meaning is the same), so that later, when he can no longer work, the state pays him a pension. In fact, the state first takes a loan from a person, then returns it. And you propose to pay a pension based on the place of residence and political views. It's like you borrow a couple of million from a neighbor against a receipt, and then refuse to return it on the basis of "he voted for Yavlinsky and generally changed his address."
  19. +22
    3 June 2023 13: 59
    The worthless mediocrity turned on the patriot mode, we know perfectly well what you have under the mask of Dima, you are personally involved in the destruction of the country's industry, have you forgotten how you reduced the number of strategic enterprises by 3-4 times? Was actively for privatization, teachers asked to go into business, puppeteers who put on Medvedev think that people are stupid? And a memory like a fish?
    1. -13
      3 June 2023 14: 43
      The communists destroyed the industry of the country, allowing the collapse of the USSR, they are also responsible for the total poverty of the population, when the shops did not have the most necessary things for life. They have already forgotten how they carried them feet first in the early 90s. there was nothing to eat. And here D.
    2. +7
      3 June 2023 14: 52
      DAM took the vacant seat of Zhirinovsky - he also became famous for his harsh statements, but his faction always voted the way the authorities needed. And many still consider VVZh a visionary and truth-seeker. Are people dumb?
  20. +7
    3 June 2023 14: 09
    There is a saying. Spring will show who shitted where. Truly, the operation showed who is who!
  21. 0
    3 June 2023 14: 48
    DAM, of course, is cool in his statements - but I have a very clear feeling that through these "radical" posts of his, we (the Russian leadership, that is) are trying to convey to the West the worst scenario for the development of the situation. As if hinting at the same time that there is another, better scenario - you just need to want............
  22. -2
    3 June 2023 14: 57
    ... the road is closed for them ...
    ...and it's not that they don't like us there...
    ... Russia is no longer the country it was before the war ...
    ... former chairman of the Russian government ...
    ... ex-president of the Russian Federation ...

    Are they explaining to us that Dmitry Anatolyevich will be a "weaker leader"?
    Or "less strong"?
    What do they bring to us, but they won’t convey it in any way?
    Need to get ready to tighten your belts and eat less meat? Go to clubs and training sections for snipers, radio operators, UAV operators? Buy a tank per city block and send it to the defense with a crew of city blockheads?
    What do they want to tell us, but do not say out loud?
  23. +4
    3 June 2023 15: 03
    Under the plausible pretext of fighting fascism in Ukraine, it is proposed to introduce a fascist dictatorship in Russia itself with terror of any opposition to the current regime.
    1. -3
      3 June 2023 15: 34
      Here you are completely wrong!
      Maybe our supreme ones were up to something, but don’t even mention the word fascism!
  24. IVZ
    -5
    3 June 2023 15: 43
    One thing needs to be learned: Russia is no longer the country it was before the war.
    Europe and the West as a whole are also no longer as attractive to normal people as before. They degraded, first of all, in terms of democratic and universal values. Some sneaky sixes - slapsticks with a puddle looking.
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  26. +7
    3 June 2023 16: 50
    While someone is sniffling, grumbling, snorting, the real guys from GAZPROM are transferring 78 million euros to sponsor a Turkish football club. This is the clearest example of patriotism and love for the Fatherland. However, as always, nothing new. We also transferred 300 yards of greenery to our dear Western partners. Everything, so to speak, for the prosperity of the fatherland.
    1. -4
      4 June 2023 20: 33
      A football club from this money is good if it sees "gum packs". It is clear that this is a bribe to the Turks for not blocking "gray imports".
  27. +3
    3 June 2023 17: 16
    Dimon suddenly woke up a sense of homeland! Interestingly, when he spawned Surdyukovism, he almost betrayed South Ossetia, he organized Manezhka in 2010, where was his love for the Motherland then?
    1. 0
      3 June 2023 17: 39
      The gods do not burn pots.
      If we support him, will Dmitry Anatolyevich say something else? Maybe he will take the shoe in his hands. Yes, about the podium, about the podium with his face.
      These are the provocations here that some authors flicker.
  28. +1
    3 June 2023 18: 01
    But why didn’t he say names, surnames? Abstract accusations are of no interest to anyone.
    Was Dmitry Anatolyevich ashamed or something?
  29. 0
    3 June 2023 19: 55
    Another statement from the cycle "What I want, I turn back" to inflate the pseudo-patriotic "discourse" ... lol
  30. +2
    3 June 2023 20: 12
    The main enemies of Russia have long been known. Dimon looking in the mirror asks himself if I am an enemy.
  31. +5
    4 June 2023 01: 54
    Medvedev is the same traitor to Russia as those of whom he speaks. Only those fell over the hill without being able to stay here, and Dima is sitting in a mahogany-trimmed office in the Kremlin. That's the whole difference between them. But they spoil my country equally rotten and those and these. And it is not even known yet who is worse and more dangerous, those who left or those who have been conducting a contractual strange operation for a year and a half and have not even started yet. Russians are dying, Medvedev, wake up
  32. +2
    4 June 2023 09: 53
    Big, real traitors to the Motherland did not seem to leave anywhere.
    Otherwise, it is impossible to explain the actions of schoolchildren and residents who are shelled daily in combination with their desires.
  33. 0
    4 June 2023 10: 30
    Of course, it is necessary to deprive, but it is also necessary to give, and this is much more important.
    It is necessary to give the heroes of the NWO the opportunity to study at universities for free, give good scholarships - with mandatory work, 2-5 years at the places of distribution.
    In art, we need new artistic directors, theater directors, directors.
    In the economy - the heads of districts, mun. formations, rural districts, directors of state farms.
    In science and education - directors of educational institutions. Strong strong-willed people with a clear pro-government position are needed everywhere. And the liberota - to drive with a filthy broom.
  34. -2
    4 June 2023 10: 39
    I agree with Medvedev: traitors are not needed in Russia, let them yelp from behind a hillock (while they are alive).
  35. +4
    4 June 2023 10: 40
    Est opinion that to the citizen Medvedev in the future. There are questions from the competent authorities.1 On what basis did he donate a whole oil and gas shelf to Norway?2 Joined the WTO.3 Destroyed the Higher Military and. Flight schools. Surrendered Gaddafi in Libya? Est opinion that this citizen has already earned 3 towers for himself. Emu Gaga turma raem will be. There and strive for drunkenness.
  36. 0
    4 June 2023 10: 46
    D.M. said for the dumb ones! Who did not hide, we are not to blame! All right. They agreed for a long time. What is not clear?
  37. 0
    4 June 2023 10: 48
    The futuree will tell the truth! But today the truth is our own creation..its scripted by business men and people who are addicted to power.

    There is nothing wrong with doing business and there is nothing wrong with power. But you need to see everything under perspective... The past is our best adviser..
    The future is just a scripted prediction..
  38. -2
    4 June 2023 20: 16
    Quote: Knell Wardenheart
    With his means and with his more or less free (at the moment) status as a political figure, instead of shaking the air, he could travel around the rear of the LDNR, bring gum. help, visit at least the rear units to raise morale and clarify how we conduct NWO. Deal with organizational issues on the restoration and establishment of a normal life in the "new" territories of the Russian Federation.


    Then, instead of the existing reputation of an evil cleaver, he would have gained considerable popularity. Moreover, many remember that under him the war was won in 6 days with negligible losses, and they did not receive sanctions for this. Questions will immediately arise: are you, Dima, gaining a reputation in order to reign and own everything? Guilty of death!
    1. -4
      4 June 2023 21: 06
      Quote: Yaroslav Tekkel
      he would have gained immense popularity. Moreover, many remember that under him the war was won in 6 days with negligible losses

      Yasha, many people also remember that the only thing that Medvedev "won" was time zones. Also cast in granite. More serious bloodshed for Dim Medvedev ... is not listed. request Yes

      So no particular popularity (well, except among the nymphets and the schoolboys who joined them ... Yasha) does not threaten this character. Alas and ah.
  39. 0
    4 June 2023 20: 46
    Where the grays are in power, then the blacks come