Indonesian Defense Minister proposes to create a demilitarized zone with UN peacekeepers in the territories of the Ukrainian armed conflict

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Indonesian Defense Minister proposes to create a demilitarized zone with UN peacekeepers in the territories of the Ukrainian armed conflict

The Indonesian Ministry of Defense offers its own version of the settlement of the armed conflict in Ukraine. The proposal was made by the Minister of Defense of this country of Southeast Asia, Prabowo Subianto.

According to the Indonesian minister, it is necessary to make a decision on the creation of a demilitarized zone in the territories where the armed conflict is unfolding. Subianto also takes the initiative to deploy UN peacekeepers in these territories.



In Indonesia itself, various political forces positively perceive the proposal of the head of the country's military department. At the same time, Subianto's statements are also pre-election in nature. The fact is that he is the general secretary of the national conservative party Gerindra (“Movement for Great Indonesia”), which he created in 2008, and at the same time one of the candidates for the presidency.

Indonesian presidential elections will be held in February 2024. Prabowo Subianto participated in the previous elections - 2019. Then he took second place, losing with a score of about 44,5% to the leader of the presidential race, Joko Widodo.

Experts, commenting on Subianto's proposal to resolve the Ukrainian crisis, say that on the one hand it deserves consideration, and on the other hand, given the length of the contact line, tens of thousands of peacekeepers may be needed to control the demilitarized zone, which is a problem in itself. The Ukrainian side has not yet officially reacted to the initiative of the Indonesian minister. Awaiting Washington Directive...
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  1. +18
    3 June 2023 07: 39
    Where are you going? Do you have few problems of your own? In Timor, for a start, figure it out ..
    1. +6
      3 June 2023 07: 51
      I wonder if this UN organization has even stopped at least one war in its history? In general, what kind of bed does she need?
      1. +3
        3 June 2023 08: 20
        Talk to tell the whole political world what you think. Why are they now talking about another frost, and where were you when the Donbas cities were bombed? Hypocrisy.
    2. 0
      3 June 2023 09: 53
      Agree! What the UN Nafig, here the question is different, and they insert their 5 kopecks, Paragraph
    3. 0
      3 June 2023 10: 34
      Quote from: dmi.pris1
      Where are you going? Do you have few problems of your own? In Timor, for a start, figure it out ..

      Our Foreign Ministry should offer Indonesia to place Russian peacekeepers in Timor.
      1. 0
        3 June 2023 13: 42
        It's a bust with peacekeepers. It is necessary to offer our base to build: and the ships will be with access to two oceans, and the garrison, and the contingent of cover.
      2. 0
        4 June 2023 16: 15
        Am I missing something about East Timor, or why are people here jumping on this problem so much? As far as I remember, it was with the help of the UN peacekeeping forces that the problem was solved there and Indonesia recognized the independence of this part of the island back in 1999.
        Maybe since then the leadership of Indonesia has remained a quirk about the ability of the UN to solve such problems anywhere? Do not scold strongly the Minister of Defense of a country far from the conflict. You better ask yourself why our media Are they "feeding" us with this senseless nonsense of some strange man in uniform? request
  2. +7
    3 June 2023 07: 43
    Yeah, shhzzzz... In ten years, even five years, we will get such a kaku on our borders that the current situation will seem like a boon.
    At least you need to reach the western regions of the Outskirts, completely freeing the left bank and the Odessa region with Bessarabia, connect with Transnistria, control Little Russia, well, and then you can talk ...
    1. +10
      3 June 2023 07: 54
      UN peacekeepers will transmit intelligence to Ukraine, just as it was after 2014 on the line of demarcation in the LDNR. and in a few years there will be war again, and they will try to strangle Russia during this time.
    2. +2
      3 June 2023 09: 23
      Shouldn't we take a swing at William Shakespeare himself?! Let's not be petty! Play it, play it! And play big, and not a trifle in your pockets to rub! How with such setting of the task? Can we? Or can't we do it? wassat
  3. +4
    3 June 2023 07: 44
    "Every cricket know your hearth" says folk wisdom
  4. +5
    3 June 2023 07: 45
    The Indonesian Minister of Defense would first ask the Indonesian Minister of Education for a political map of the world. This is not the 38th parallel and not Vietnam, to close the issue with a demilitarized zone - the territory is too long. And the "peacekeeping troops" will require a couple of dozen personnel divisions just to try to keep order. Who will feed them? Ukraine?
    1. +2
      3 June 2023 09: 30
      Well, if you look at the number of US military bases, then how do they cope with feeding! If you look at a map of the territories controlled by the United States, then I also somehow cope with feeding and they don’t yell that it’s enough to feed! More recently, the truth was abandoned from Afghanistan. But they handed him over to reliable radical hands. And in Syria, the states somehow do not want to leave the territory they control. They do not abandon the poor Balts either. And they are even going to join Sweden. Just some kind of magic pot that is enough for everyone!? winked
  5. +5
    3 June 2023 07: 46
    Well, when it does not concern you ... you can come up with any "fantastic" "solutions")
    The UN in the current configuration is generally similar to a chat with 300+ participants ... everyone writes something ... but only admins have real power ... this comment was deleted, this one was banned
  6. +2
    3 June 2023 07: 46
    Another "peacemaker" decided to declare its existence. And by the way, is Indonesia anywhere, otherwise I'm a double-dealer?
  7. +6
    3 June 2023 07: 46
    The Indonesian Ministry of Defense offers its own version of the settlement of the armed conflict in Ukraine.
    Well, here Indonesia decided to contribute to "peacekeeping". To create a demilitarized zone - this can only be done with the consent and desire of the opposing sides, which is not realistic today. Introducing UN peacekeepers into this zone is completely ridiculous, especially if the "peacekeepers" are from NATO countries. Such "peacekeepers" and their activities have seen enough in the former Yugoslavia and Africa. In a word, just an attempt to make a mark on the political field on a topic that is on everyone's lips.
  8. +1
    3 June 2023 07: 47
    "waiting for the Washington directive, but they still can't decide
  9. +3
    3 June 2023 07: 48
    Exactly. Let them bring in peacekeepers. Indonesia to Lviv. Philippines to Ivano-Frankivsk. Ternopil will get Papua New Guinea. Everything else is Russia. We'll figure it out ourselves.
  10. +3
    3 June 2023 07: 51
    UN peacekeepers - from the Republic of Belarus, then ok (for this, the official non-participation of the Republic of Belarus in the NWO was made)
    Ze goes nuts and will turn his nose at the peace initiative.
  11. +2
    3 June 2023 07: 59
    Lived up. Each ... now puts its five kopecks under Russia's nose. Why didn’t they care when NATO put a gun to our heads? Closer and closer. Demilitators there in a swing ....
  12. +4
    3 June 2023 08: 02
    It is not a question if the peacekeepers are from Belarus, and the outskirts are demilitarized, otherwise the attacks on the border will continue, which was before the NWO
  13. +3
    3 June 2023 08: 03
    It's good that someone stands for peace. But we do not need such a world. So that, in fact, NATO soldiers, albeit under the auspices of peacekeepers, officially entered Russian soil. This will not happen.
  14. +1
    3 June 2023 08: 08
    Well, they have a lot of experience establishing a demilitarized zone in East Timor. Very "successful".

    Indonesia must be listened to, but done only in your own way.
  15. -1
    3 June 2023 08: 11
    The border must pass along the Danube. So let them deploy in Romania.
  16. +1
    3 June 2023 08: 22
    I don’t understand anything ... what prevents both sides from hitting the demilitarized zone with missiles through this very militarized zone?
  17. -3
    3 June 2023 08: 25
    The border of the Slavs and Europeans should pass under the Dnieper, this is justified by the theory of haplogroups in the west r1b the so-called Erbins ... in the east r1a the remnants of the Slavs, the Erbins already hate at the genetic level ... Why should peacekeepers be from anywhere you want, but not from Europe and not from Russia
    1. +2
      3 June 2023 08: 44
      The border of Slavs and Europeans should pass under the Dnieper

      Along the Rhine and Danube, you mean?!
    2. 0
      3 June 2023 17: 12
      Then one by one. In general, let the Germans return Pomerania to us. The land of the Polabian Slavs.
      1. 0
        3 June 2023 17: 14
        Oder wink the bug came out. wildly sorry
  18. 0
    3 June 2023 09: 02
    un peacekeepers? that's a funny name in and of itself
  19. 0
    3 June 2023 10: 47
    Chuck is driving! Unless to draw the border along Zbruch. And put peacekeepers along Zbruch.
  20. -1
    3 June 2023 11: 06
    Smoked shores beguiled)))) They stick their nose where they shouldn't.
  21. 0
    3 June 2023 11: 25
    This should have been done back in the 14th and earlier, but now it's too late. Not for us, not for them
  22. -1
    3 June 2023 12: 12
    And these are there under the tune of LICE! There are few problems.
  23. 0
    3 June 2023 12: 50
    Did the "peacekeepers" help much, for example, in Kosovo? Maybe in Mali or Congo? Whistling is not tossing bags. Deal with your people in Timor. verbiage am
  24. 0
    3 June 2023 15: 30
    Peacekeepers should consist of Russian, Belarusian and North Korean military. The military of European countries and the United States should be scalped, and ALL. The scalps should be sold at auctions, and the proceeds should be used to support LGBT people in the western regions of the territory temporarily occupied by the Ukronazis. Then everything will be in order.
  25. 0
    3 June 2023 15: 35
    Quote: South Ukrainian
    It's good that someone stands for peace. But we do not need such a world. So that, in fact, NATO soldiers, albeit under the auspices of peacekeepers, officially entered Russian soil. This will not happen.

    They are not going to Russian soil. But only on the land that the Bolsheviks already gave to Bandera as unnecessary.
  26. 0
    3 June 2023 15: 35
    Pot calls the kettle black,
    And whose would be silent

    - East Timor
    - There have been dozens of terrorist attacks in the country since 2000. One of the deadliest was the explosion on the tourist island of Bali. Three terrorist attacks took place on the "Isle of the Gods" on October 12, 2002. The incident killed 202 people and injured hundreds, including foreign nationals. Another terrorist attack occurred in front of the Makassar Cathedral in the province of South Sulawesi on March 28, 2021
    - Separatism remains the main challenge for the territorial integrity of Indonesia. There are quite a few separatist movements in Papua. One of the unfortunate events was a shootout between soldiers of the Indonesian army and a separatist group on September 13, 2021. The group set fire to public facilities, including a bank, a market, an elementary school building, and even a health center. The unsuccessful attempts of the separatist group led to the fact that supporters of the independence of Papua began to conduct an international campaign and raise sharp questions about Papua at the UN.
    - In 2021, the number of drug addicts in Indonesia increased by 0,15% to 3,6 million people. Between the ages of 15 and 35, 2,29 million Indonesians use drugs. There are 803 types of drugs registered in Indonesia, and the death rate from drug abuse is approximately 40-50 per day.
    - corrupt
    - territorial problems with Malaysia and China
    In general, peacekeepers are still those ... fool
  27. 0
    4 June 2023 00: 12
    It would be cool to get together and discuss this project. I envy the Indonesians, they have a prezik with such a wild imagination that even now write books.
  28. -1
    4 June 2023 00: 27
    Someone from the countries of the first hundred in terms of population has not yet been marked as the destroyers of what is happening in Ukraine?
    Even if all countries, excluding Russia and Ukraine, decide to separate and reconcile, for a while, us with the Ukrainians, how many UN helmets will be needed? In order to dictate your will to someone, you need a numerical superiority. Where will they take two million UN soldiers?
    If not 2 million, but 20 thousand, then our peacekeepers will be persecuted, then Ukrainians.
    Because the peacekeepers are working, and we are fighting for our lives. And Ukrainians are fighting for their lives.
    And we and they are no longer interested in the opinion of other countries.
  29. 0
    4 June 2023 15: 55
    Indonesia? Offers a plan for Ukraine? Lived up. Or, is everything so bad that even these "geographical news" climb?