The liquidator of the Chernobyl accident: Blame the illiteracy of managers

3 2023 June 40

A lot has already been said, filmed and written about the tragedy that occurred on April 26, 1986. The accident at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant has become a black page in our stories.

At the same time, despite the fact that a rather impressive period (37 years) has already passed after the incident, today more and more new details and nuances continue to be revealed.

About what happened at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant after the accident and how dangerous it was for people who heroically fought the consequences of the largest man-made disaster in the history of mankind, one of the liquidators, and now nuclear specialist Grigory Kirichenko, spoke on TacticMedia.

The expert expressed his opinion about why this terrible disaster occurred. According to him, the illiteracy of managers is to blame.

Kirichenko noted that the BMK reactor had one bad property: when the power drops below 25%, it must be “switched off” (completely stopped). As the expert explained, during the shutdown process, isotopes are produced in the reactor that absorb neutrons, due to which their fission gradually stops.

However, the thing is that decay occurs several tens of seconds after absorption, and if we start raising the power again, then new neutrons will begin to be added sharply to the already existing (not decayed), which will cause an explosive increase in the reactor power.

According to Kirichenko, this is exactly what happened on April 26, 1986. The power of the BMK was first lowered below the permissible limits, when there were no options but to stop the reactor. At the same time, a call was received from Kyivenergo with a request to increase capacity, since one of the TPPs “dropped out” of the circuit. That is exactly what the shift leader did.

Then a bad trend went to people who had nothing to do with nuclear energy, to put shift supervisors

Kirichenko summed up.

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Katya_Ivanova

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3 June 2023 10: 30

What's wrong here? This is the social lift! In those days, even a hastily retrained combine operator could become a general secretary.
1. South Ukrainian
  
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  3 June 2023 10: 45
  
  Quote: Katya_Ivanova
  What's wrong here? This is the social lift! In those days, even a hastily retrained combine operator could become a general secretary.
  
  In vain you are so about the nuclear industry, there could not be combiners there. A bunch of circumstances developed in such a way that an accident occurred. In no case am I making excuses for anyone, but one must understand that the higher a civilization climbs the technological ladder, the more serious the accidents. And without them, nothing. In 1986, it's only been 32 years since the first nuclear power plant was launched, so I wouldn't judge those people too harshly.
  1. Chief Officer Lom
    
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    4 June 2023 11: 58
    
    The fundamental reason that led to the Chernobyl accident was another political decision. Namely, the decision to transfer almost all nuclear power plants from the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Medium Machine Building to the Ministry of Energy. Who proposed this idiotic solution is unknown.
    
    For those who have never been interested in this: the Ministry of Medium Machine Building is the name of the Ministry of the Soviet nuclear industry, inherited from the time of the creation of the Soviet atom, when even its existence was secret.
    After Chernobyl, in order not to admit the fallacy of the earlier illiterate decision, but still take the nuclear power plant out of the hands of "electricians", on July 21, 1986, the USSR Ministry of Atomic Energy was created.
    1. geraet4501
      
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      5 June 2023 20: 02
      
      The Ministry of Medium Machine Building - those guys. They themselves drew up regulations for the design of reactors, they themselves designed them according to it, and then tested themselves. Therefore, they formally passed the RBMK, although by world standards it could not appear at all.
      1. Chief Officer Lom
        
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        14 June 2023 19: 41
        
        The Ministry of Medium Machine Building knew what they were doing, and they knew what not to do. And who, I wonder, instead of them, was supposed to draw up design regulations, design and check? Americans? And it certainly would not have occurred to them to turn off the safety systems of the reactor for the sake of illiterate experiments in style - let's see what happens? - and driving it into an iodine pit, violate strict instructions prohibiting again accelerating reactors of this type after reducing their power below critical and requiring after that a complete shutdown of the reactor for a long time before starting it again. And why the hell did the workers of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant (those who organized this disgrace, and those who were afraid not to follow instructions that violate safety instructions) conduct experiments at the power plant reactor at all, are they nuclear scientists and was it a research reactor? They wanted awards with medals ...
2. lelik613
  
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  7 June 2023 02: 32
  
  It's like appointing a skilled proctologist to head the cardiology department.
Lech from Android.

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3 June 2023 10: 33

Quote: Katya_Ivanova
What's wrong here? This is the social lift! In those days, a hastily retrained combine operator could become a general secretary.

Nowadays, hastily retrained managers become defense ministers ... the results are just as deplorable.
In both cases, people who do not understand the consequences of their actions should not be allowed into such cases.
1. Katya_Ivanova
  
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  3 June 2023 10: 38
  
  Quote: Lech from Android.
  
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  In both cases, people who do not understand the consequences of their actions should not be allowed into such cases.
  
  How do you know who understands and who doesn't? Education? Here, Stalin could not graduate from the seminary, and Gorbachev could not even enter there ... That's the whole difference.
  1. Lech from Android.
    
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    3 June 2023 10: 45
    
    Quote: Katya_Ivanova
    How do you know who understands and who doesn't? Education? Here, Stalin could not graduate from the seminary, and Gorbachev could not even enter there ... That's the whole difference
    
    I told you ... in terms of the consequences ... did Gorbachev understand that his publicity and the restructuring of the country would lead to its collapse? ... No, I didn’t understand.
    Did Stalin understand that his industrialization and collectivization would lead to the economic upsurge of the country?... Yes, he did.
    Gorbachev is not a strategist... he is a petty rogue and a populist... Stalin is a strategist-creator of the most powerful power in the world... one might say a chess grandmaster who skillfully managed both people and situations... albeit not without mistakes.
    The current leadership is no match for him.
    1. your1970
      
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      3 June 2023 12: 31
      
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Did Stalin understand that his industrialization and collectivization would lead to the economic upsurge of the country?... Yes, he did.
      
      И simultaneous killing the village...
      Classic Sholokhov
      "Our work is different, it is
      do not stand near the machine at the factory. He was on duty there for eight hours - and a cane in
      teeth go...
      - Have you ever been to a factory?
      - I, Comrade Davydov, have not been, but I know.
      - You don't know anything about the worker! And if you haven't been, you haven't seen what you
      flutter your tongue! Kulak talk about a worker with a cane!
      - Well, fuck and without a cane: worked - go. And here, it's dark -
      you get up, you plow. Until the night, forty sweats will come off you, there are blood on your legs.
      blisters the size of a chicken egg, and at night feed the bulls, do not sleep: the bull will not get drunk - the plow will not pull. I will do my best on the collective farm, and another, like our Kolyba, will sleep in the furrow. ..."
      
      And in 1930 part of the population left the village and then left in 1960-70. Now the remnants are leaving ...
      It's too easy to live in the city compared to the countryside....
      1. 2 Level Advisor
        
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        3 June 2023 17: 19
        
        Sergey, there is an expression - the end justifies the means, and leading the USSR at that time (before the Second World War), there was no time for emotions.
        Quote: your1970
        It's too easy to live in the city compared to the countryside....
        
        This is a global trend - the transition to cities ..
        
        your1970
        
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        4 June 2023 18: 16
        
        Quote: 2 level advisor
        Sergey, there is an expression - the end justifies the means, and leading the USSR at that time (before the Second World War), there was no time for emotions.
        Quote: your1970
        It's too easy to live in the city compared to the countryside....
        
        This is a global trend - the transition to cities ..
        - global?
        Then shouting about the murder of the village in the last 20 years - we must remember that they began to kill it 100 years ago.
        Only then they killed her from above, and now from below .....
    2. geraet4501
      
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      5 June 2023 19: 52
      
      by the consequences...
      
      The problem is that it is necessary to keep illiterate and harmful people out before these very consequences come. Given the low quality of Soviet managers, who sometimes did not have a normal education, this regularly did not work out.
2. Starover_Z
  
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  3 June 2023 10: 42
  
  Quote: Lech from Android.
  Nowadays, hastily retrained managers become defense ministers ... the results are just as deplorable.
  In both cases, people who do not understand the consequences of their actions should not be allowed into such cases.
  
  In our time, in general, menahers of the same party with an initial managerial education are put in posts, and not literate managers with work experience! And so everywhere, alas ...
  1. Katya_Ivanova
    
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    3 June 2023 10: 47
    
    Quote: Starover_Z
    
    In our time, in general, menahers of the same party with an initial managerial education are put in posts, and not literate managers with work experience! And so everywhere, alas ...
    
    And when nuclear power plants were just created, where did they get specialists for them?
    1. Chief Officer Lom
      
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      4 June 2023 15: 25
      
      When nuclear power plants were created, they were managed by specialists from the USSR Minsredmash. Then, as a result of hardware games in the party and government, nuclear power plants were transferred to the Ministry of Energy, and in pursuit of higher salaries, status and benefits, they began to appoint "their" people from the Ministry of Energy who had passed accelerated retraining courses with the appropriate level of knowledge on the topic and level of discipline , corresponding at best to a hydroelectric power station, and at worst - to a boiler house. I do not want to say anything bad about the workers of simple power plants, but still their attitude to the thorough observance of all instructions corresponded to the level of possible consequences of their violation for these simple power plants.
      1. Chief Officer Lom
        
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        4 June 2023 16: 59
        
        PS I have not studied this issue, but I doubt that hydroelectric specialists were taken to nuclear power plants, because the level of the then Minister of Energy is characterized by his order to commission the units of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant a few days after the accident, and then the 4th unit. Although the discipline of hydroelectric specialists dealing with dams should be high, but the leadership with a level of professionalism like that of Khrushchev and Gorbachev probably believed that the reactor was just a stove with a turbine and the specialists of the thermal power plant could handle them better.
3. Reklastik
  
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  4 June 2023 17: 56
  
  In both cases, people who do not understand the consequences of their actions should not be allowed into such cases.
  - Can. But under the strict supervision of professionals.
NikolaiV

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3 June 2023 10: 37

Grigory Kirichenko.
before making such a comment.
It is necessary to read the journal Atomic Energy for 1986 - everything is very sensible and consistently painted who did what.
But the most important thing is that there is no SURNAME who gave the command to conduct such an experiment on the run-out of the turbogenerator.
The reactor protection was designed by engineers and not stupid, who gave the command to turn off all protection.

And you subtly kept silent, but how much Curie was thrown out by this reactor fire.
Graphite burned, and this is slightly above 4000 degrees Celsius.
TVEL tablets simply deteriorated at this temperature.
About lead and sand that were dumped into the reactor and there’s nothing to say.

And so go ahead and success in understanding the causes of the catastrophe at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant.
Pay special attention to why the lid of the reactor weighing 1000 tons flew far away, which tore it off its mount.
A nuclear chain reaction, as in an atomic explosion, did not occur.
1. geraet4501
  
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  5 June 2023 20: 00
  
  The reactor protection was designed by engineers and not stupid, who gave the command to turn off all protection.
  
  Do you really think that the reactor can be disabled all protection?
  
  A nuclear chain reaction, as in an atomic explosion, did not occur.
  
  The second explosion was essentially nuclear.
  
  But the most important thing is that there is no SURNAME who gave the command to conduct such an experiment on the run-out of the turbogenerator.
  
  Who cares? The experiment has no direct relation to the explosion. It generally concerned the electrical piping, and not the reactor itself.
Million

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3 June 2023 10: 42

Then a bad trend went to people who had nothing to do with nuclear energy, to put shift supervisors

Today the situation has only worsened. This happens in all spheres of life.
1. Katya_Ivanova
  
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  3 June 2023 10: 48
  
  Quote: Million
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  Today the situation has only worsened. This happens in all spheres of life.
  Really? And how many nuclear power plants have exploded today?
2. Oleg812spb
  
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  3 June 2023 11: 00
  Today the situation has only worsened. This happens in all spheres of life.
  
  Type this:
  1. Million
    
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    3 June 2023 11: 08
    
    It is even worse when we are replaced by migrants. In our hospitals, a lot of migrant workers began to work as doctors, although Russian is barely spoken.
vovochkarzhevsky

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3 June 2023 10: 49

It may seem blasphemous to someone, but nevertheless, it is a fact. Better, of course, without it at all, but it still went to this, people became too careless about nuclear energy, and this catastrophe would have happened anyway. And we can say lucky that in the days of the USSR. When we had the capacity to immediately begin liquidation, and at the same time restore order in the industry, on which we are still holding on.
But if such a catastrophe happened in the Russian Federation, so what? Hushing up the true state of affairs, as in Fukushima, but religious processions?
Doctor

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3 June 2023 10: 49

And who there from the shift had nothing to do with nuclear energy? Director of the station Bryukhanov? So he slept at home ...
Gardamir

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3 June 2023 10: 51

It would be nice if such articles talked about accidents in other countries. For example, in the United States, all information is totally closed. And in the USSR, glasnost has come, so we chew it.
1. Katya_Ivanova
  
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  3 June 2023 11: 18
  
  Quote: Gardamir
  It would be nice if such articles talked about accidents in other countries. For example, in the United States, all information is totally closed. And in the USSR, glasnost has come, so we chew it.
  
  So they began to explode nuclear power plants even earlier. And I had to learn from their mistakes...
2. geraet4501
  
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  5 June 2023 19: 55
  
  For example, in the United States, all information is totally closed.
  
  Why lie so blatantly? Compare the accidents at the Leningrad NPP and at Three Mile Island. Ordinary people did not know about the accident at the Leningrad NPP, so far there is little data on it. After the accident at Three Mile Island, residents quickly became aware of what was happening and temporarily moved out of the neighborhood, although there was no need for this.
Fangaro

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3 June 2023 11: 19

IN! What is this information garbage?
The liquidator of the consequences of the Chernobyl accident is a person thanks to whom many survived, and even more people remained healthy. At the cost of the lives and health of those same liquidators.
But ...
37 years later, who later became a nuclear specialist, he says that the illiterate action of the seniors led to the accident, citing the shift supervisor as an example ...
Joker62

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3 June 2023 11: 54

Quote: Katya_Ivanova
Quote: Lech from Android.

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In both cases, people who do not understand the consequences of their actions should not be allowed into such cases.

How do you know who understands and who doesn't? Education? Here, Stalin could not graduate from the seminary, and Gorbachev could not even enter there ... That's the whole difference.

But there is no need to talk about Stalin.
He had a dilemma: either graduate from the seminary and become a spiritual righteous man or be a professional revolutionary. There is no third. Stalin chose the second option. But Stalin himself studied independently throughout his conscious life. He has no equal among our contemporaries in this level.
Illanatol

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4 June 2023 09: 08

Quote: your1970
And killing the village at the same time...

Name a country where it was different. Is it England? How many people are left in the countryside?
Illanatol

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4 June 2023 09: 10

Quote: Joker62
He had a dilemma: either graduate from seminary and become a spiritual righteous

And not the fact that he studied at the seminary. Others claim that he graduated from an educational institution established by the Jesuit fathers. The fact is impartial, so they came up with about the seminary.
Illanatol

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4 June 2023 09: 11

Quote: Katya_Ivanova
So they began to explode nuclear power plants even earlier. And I had to learn from their mistakes...

It can be seen that the "social lifts" worked even better there?

Accidents at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant can occur for a variety of reasons.
Nikolay Malyugin

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4 June 2023 10: 35

I think that we will never know the truth about this state of emergency. Even in the most responsible place, people with varying degrees of professionalism work. I think that they decided to report on some action ahead of schedule by May 1. But these are just guesses. How do people with low professionalism get to responsible work.? Either through connections. Or by chance.
NikolaiV

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7 June 2023 09: 31

geraet4501 (Dmitry Zaitsev)
Hello. Dare it so that there are no questions about protection.
http://elib.biblioatom.ru/text/istoriya-atomnoy-energetiki_v4_2002/go,538/
NikolaiV

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7 June 2023 09: 41

geraet4501 (Dmitry Zaitsev)
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%A7%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%8B%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%90%D0%AD%D0%A1
Section CHRONOLOGY
Well, read on and think.
Sasha Koblov

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8 June 2023 23: 52

And why should managers be literate in the 80s?
It was enough just to be a member of the CPSU.
1. ivan2022
  
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  15 June 2023 04: 57
  
  For what ? At least not to look like complete idiots...
  
  But now it’s really enough to have a million bucks on your account, and you are smarter than any Academician.
  Can you tell him: "why are you poor, if you are so smart?" ....
ivan2022

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9 June 2023 20: 58

How quickly people forget everything... Stupid myths are born about calls from another planet or from Kyiv.....
On April 26, 1986, a scientific experiment was carried out at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant before the power unit was shut down for inspection and repair.

The staff failed to set the required reactor power to start the experiment. At first they reduced too much, then they wanted to increase it. And she doesn't go up. The reactor protection systems were turned off. Broke all instructions. Then the power began to rise, but so that everything went to hell ......

The people in Russia and in Ukraine are afraid of the authorities, more than death. That’s why there is no order, because every cretin in command demands that everything be as it was in his head and that everyone breathes as he says, but you can put rules, instructions and laws ..... .... Slaves from birth .

.In the same way, our politics regularly changes direction by 180 degrees. Now to the West, then from the West ...
Either nationalization, then privatization, then "we will separate so as not to feed these", now we will "return our lands" ...
We see the result....