The US Institute for the Study of War called two attempts by militants to break into the Belgorod region "a classic raid on enemy territory"

The United States found the cause of two failed attacks by Ukrainian armed forces on the territory of the Belgorod region. According to the Institute for the Study of War (ISW), the task of capturing Russian territory was simply "not set."

The raids organized by the Ukrainian military intelligence on the territory of the Belgorod region ended in failure. Several Vyruses who participated in the attack on May 22 and June 1 were involved only for a photo session, so that later they could be presented as the main organizers of the breakthrough. So the American Institute for the Study of War builds its analytics on the statements of a handful of terrorists who did not participate in the hostilities.

According to American analysts, the so-called "Russian volunteers" did not try to establish control over the territory of the Belgorod region, even despite their statements. It is alleged that there were "too few" forces attacking Russian territory, therefore, based on American military doctrine, it was a "classic raid on enemy territory."

Raids, according to the doctrine of the US Army, are small-scale assault operations involving the rapid penetration of enemy territory in order to obtain information, defeat enemy forces or destroy objects. The raids end with a planned withdrawal from a narrowly defined target area and are not aimed at establishing long-term control over the territory.

- said in ISW.

What kind of "planned" withdrawal are the Americans talking about, if the first time the invading forces were driven out of Russian territory and partially destroyed, and the second time they did not even manage to cross the border. However, ISW experts are guided exclusively by the reports of Ukrainian sources, and what only Kiev did not come up with to justify the failure of two operations.

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[Myths]

penetration into enemy territory in order to obtain information, defeat enemy forces or destroy objects.

and it was another terrorist act, the goal is peaceful cities and even cities are hitting civilians. IIV are liars.

[dmi.pris1]

Why did the author decide that these attacks were unsuccessful? The seizure of the territory was hardly staged, but they brought a notable nix. People have to be evacuated, destruction, image loss of power. This has been achieved

[Horon]

They did not induce a nix with a raid, since they no longer focus on rolling, but with shelling of settlements, because of which the population has to be evacuated.

[Aken]

That is, the task was completed even without a breakthrough into the territory. This is success. This is another slap for MO. Not fatal, but shameful.

[Horon]

That is, the task was completed even without a breakthrough into the territory.

The emphasis is on a breakthrough, but artillery raids created panic. Based on the effect, the fall of the twin towers is also the victory of the terrorists over the American army, but where are those terrorists now? The action has not yet been completed, so it is difficult to assess the real results against the background of informational noise.

[Aken]

In our case, there are not enough forces to capture. Therefore, the main goal is information noise.

[skeptic]

Quote from: dmi.pris1

image loss of power. This has been achieved

MO planned this from the beginning. Hence the ban on arming the militia, hence the ban on deploying units of the Armed Forces along the perimeter of the border (urgent call). Nobody talks about the introduction of conscripts into the territory of Ukraine, but they are called upon to ensure the defense of Russia.
Apparently, at the top of the Moscow Region, someone provides the conditions (compromising) for the overthrow of the Russian leadership.

[credo]

If the Yankees define the terrorist acts of the Kiev junta against a neighboring state as a "classic raid on enemy territory", then following this logic from the territory of Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Finland and Estonia, which consider Russia also an enemy, we should be ready to meet similar raids.
Russia's endless attempts to negotiate with NATO and the United States have not led to anything good and will not lead in the future, because for the Anglo-Saxons Russia was, is and will be a constant desired object of capture, which means that we should expect such raids from all countries bordering us on West, and beyond.

[NDR-791]

Quote: credo

If the Yankees define the terrorist acts of the Kyiv junta against a neighboring state as a "classic raid on enemy territory"

I'm just wondering what they can know about what a "classic raid on enemy territory" should look like if they themselves have never carried out such a thing from their own territory? And from a foreign territory it is somewhat different.

[Radmila_Beinarovich]

I’m reading all the comments that are frankly striking in their anti-Russian orientation, and I no longer have a question whose side you are on. I ask you to voice what military goals (namely military and not PR goals) were these terrorist attacks achieved using the Armed Forces of Ukraine and NATO equipment ?! Or is the war waged by you fighters of the invisible front exclusively on the Internet? Pointing out a nix is ​​like your direct goal. So?)

[Vladimir_2U]

"a classic raid on enemy territory."

The raid with the aim of "heaping under the door" was a success, you can't say anything ...

[single-n]

They piled on so that the population was evacuated. Would you like to live in this locality?

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Single-n

They piled on so that the population was evacuated. Would you like to live in this locality?

Would you like to learn the difference between "raid" and shelling?

[oleg-nekrasov-19]

You can't really say. I would also add "a classic raid for walking under oneself and leaning on a fan on the Internet"

[Smoked]

This "institute for the study of war" is a gold mine for news.

[Uprun]

Under what foreign flag is not clear. Under what specifically? Striped wishful thinking, Russian does not mean Russian. Pugacheva on what flag does he roam around Israel?

[opuonmed]

Biden shows willingness to cross Putin's red lines - The Washington Post

As US officials explain, a key reason for ignoring Putin's threats is the fact that the Russian president is not sticking to his promises to punish the West for providing weapons to Ukraine.

His bluff assured American and European leaders that they could continue to do so without serious repercussions."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/06/01/ukraine-f-16s-biden-russia-escalation/
Well, what can I say, they cross them for it, nothing is done!

[75 Sergey]

They don't work together with British scientists by chance?
But Captain Obvious must have a president there!

[Bingo]

Ah, the famous institute that beats off rations from Bredan scientists ...

Raids end with a planned withdrawal from a narrowly defined target area

It just didn't work out with the care. And there was no destruction of anything except the village LIBRARY. That is, a purely stupid propaganda action, for which they paid with seven dozen blind man's eyes and gouged equipment with a completely negative result in the military sense - there are corpses, equipment is beaten, the enemy has no losses at all. 1 captured and broken Beter...

[Gardamir]

What are you writing about here? Look at yesterday GTRK Belgorod about the wounded, about severed limbs, about the heavy ones who may not survive.

[Egoza]

Quote: oleg-nekrasov-19

According to the Institute for the Study of War (ISW), the task of capturing Russian territory was simply "not set."

This "institution" does not even imagine what a REID is! Someone translate to them about Reid Kovpak, at least they will understand what it is.

[single-n]

What’s what, but the tactics of raids is what we need to learn from them. And in response to your example, I can give an example of SAS raids against Rommel
SAS tactics in World War II combined jeep raids with machine guns, surprise attacks by German lines of communication, and parachute landings followed by assault.

"In the course of operations against Rommel's Afrika Korps, SAS, according to some reports, destroyed about 400 German aircraft on the ground, depriving the German units of fuel for tanks to a large extent and to a large extent - air support from the air. "
No worse than Kovpak?

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Single-n

No worse than Kovpak?

But worse than Badanov, with the Tatsinsky raid.

[single-n]

Are we talking about raids of small groups, such as BTG and less, or about a military operation by the forces of a tank corps? Moreover, with the loss of 90% of the personnel and almost all heavy equipment. Well, that's an example.
Well then, let's discuss Operation Libyan Operation, codename Operation Compass. Approximately the same forces of 36 soldiers and officers, 000 guns, 120 tanks
British destroyed/captured 3000 killed, 115 captured, 000 tanks, 400 of them captured. 120 guns, of which 1292 were captured by 200 aircraft
And they lost only 500 people killed and 1500 wounded. ONLY 5 (FIVE KARL!!) PERCENT of their forces. Here is the awesome result. And I say right away, both in your and in my example, the main successes were achieved by fighting the Italians. As soon as the body rested against the Wehrmacht, everything became sad
Yes, and the depth of the raids is comparable

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Single-n

As soon as the body ran into the Wehrmacht, everything became sad

Yes? And if the British ran into the Wehrmacht? And in winter.
So the conditions are incomparable, no need ...

[Bingo]

Quote: Egoza

This "institution" does not even imagine what a REID is!

They saw him in the store:

[oleg-nekrasov-19]

Quote: oleg-nekrasov-19

According to the Institute for the Study of War (ISW), the task of capturing Russian territory was simply "not set."

Well, the Institute for the Study of War (ISW), having an elderly American, two Ukrainians and a big name, always declares a purely "expert" opinion

[bober1982]

The aforementioned institute for the study of war is run by Nuland's daughter-in-law, and certain information is thrown through them to discredit the Russian army, there is no trust in them.

[Giuseppe_Cagliostro]

Quote from: dmi.pris1

Why did the author decide that these attacks were unsuccessful? The seizure of the territory was hardly staged, but they brought a notable nix. People have to be evacuated, destruction, image loss of power. This has been achieved

ABOUT! A new idea in military science! —
"Shuher brought." Colossal!
I propose to add to this repertoire of military science, ... from the same opera:
- sykunov attack
- half fraer
- the lure of atas
- bypassing the roosters

The whole set, so to speak! Listen and tremble at the depth of thought of the aesthetes of military science!

[km-21]

In a military sense, these raids do not bring much benefit. But in the political - Russia is being seriously damaged. On the one hand, the population's confidence in the authorities and the army is being lost. On the other hand, the risk of a crushing escalation on the Ukrainian front is growing. Both certainly play into the hands of the Anglo-Saxons.

[Ghost1]

And someone expects something different from Western mouthpieces in terms of statements? On the example of other conflicts where they sang to the tune of the Anglo-Saxons.

[former soldier]

Something is somehow uncomfortable when they write that the Ukrainians destroyed someone's house, and even a barn in the courtyard.

[Knell wardenheart]

What did you see classic there? Some chelas arrived, they themselves lay down for the most part and leaked a bunch of equipment - and the result? This attack would be "classic" if they broke through to an oil refinery or a thermal power plant or an airfield or to the center of a large us point - they would take everything out there and until the moment when the enemy (that is, we) reacted, they would leave for sunset .
This would be a classic raid in the conditions of modern warfare, with its communications, aviation, UAVs and other things that make a longer impact almost impossible.

And what was wrapped up was a weak dismoral operation aimed at the most dense inhabitants who believe that the border of the Russian Federation is entirely the Maginot line with minefields and turrets.

[single-n]

Do we have any objective information about the losses? I have not yet seen intelligible footage with broken columns and mountains of corpses. Yes, and what it cost us to repel this raid, we still xs.