"Terminator" and revolvers

The first revolver in James Cameron's The Terminator movie appears at the ninth minute of the story, when Kyle Reese, who has just arrived from the future, takes the revolver from the policeman who was chasing him. This revolver turns out to be a Model 15 Smith & Wesson revolver, descended from the same Model XNUMX, which was replaced by the American Marines fighting against the rebels in the Philippines at the beginning of the XNUMXth century with the old Colt due to its low stopping power.

After this embarrassment, 77-year-old Daniel Wesson, who was still in charge of the company, used on the same model of 1899 a longer cartridge of the same caliber, called .38 Special, in which, by increasing the mass of gunpowder and bullets, not stopping, but vice versa, penetration was increased. action. To enhance the stopping effect, the bullet was made blunt, creating a platform with a diameter of 6 millimeters on its top. It was under this cartridge that the Smith & Wesson company released in 1949 the very fifteenth model that at the time of filming the film was in service with the Los Angeles Police Department. Once again, the same model can be seen at the time of the Terminator attack on the police station, when the police are trying to defend themselves from the cyborg.

An offshoot of this model was the Smith & Wesson Model 36, which had a five-shot drum instead of a six-shot, and the barrel was shortened from four to two inches. This revolver was designed for concealed carry and was used primarily by plainclothes detectives and federal agents. In the film, such a revolver can be seen lying on the floor near the detective, who was knocked out by Kyle Reese.

In the film, you can also see the Colt Python, which is armed with a police officer inspecting a patrol car abandoned by the Terminator. However, such revolvers were never officially in service with the police of the city of Los Angeles, since this would be an unaffordable luxury - the cost of the blued "Colt" with a four-inch barrel lit up in the frame at that time was $ 462, which was three times the cost of the "Smith and Wesson" 15 th model.

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Comments

[kot423]

Colt Python is a worthy device, I had a chance to shoot. But the recoil is crazy, up to sprains and breaking out the hands, this is a kind of "pocket artillery", not for high-speed shooting.

[Sobol]

I read (or watched) somewhere that these revolvers are the standard weapons of the American police - they are given them for free. If the policeman wants something else - buy for your hard-earned money. I have never been to the United States and therefore I do not know if this is true or fiction. Looking at Hollywood films, Amer's policemen use advanced guns remarkably and no one speaks badly to them.

[ycuce234-san]

Quote: SoboL

I read (or watched) somewhere that these revolvers are the standard weapons of the American police - they are given them for free.

Rather, it is interesting that the revolver was generally in wide practical use at the time of the filming. America is a country with a developed weapons culture and a powerful military-industrial complex, at the same time - with living weapons anachronisms, with "living fossils" of weapons; where else does this happen.

[uncle Vlad]

Everything is trite simple - in a shootout when a cartridge misfires in a revolver, you just need to pull the trigger again and a new cartridge will stand against the striker, and you can still shoot guaranteed .. There is no such thing in a machine gun - you need to disassemble it. And in an active shootout, this is a waste of time and life.

[Ezekiel 25-17]

Colt Python chambered for 357 Magnum is a cool car: it is with a long barrel of 4 inches that it is optimal, both for concealed carry and in an external holster. Expensive apparatus... But the police in the States can buy it for themselves and wear it as a service weapon: life is more expensive, and with it they go to the bear; its stopping effect is from 550 joules. (depending on barrel length)

[Architect]

For a bear?
Don't tell me, the net has statistics on the use of a firearm against a bear.
Read at your leisure.
R.S. By the way, you might be right. They go to the bear with a revolver, but they don't come back. One way ticket.

[Andrey Moskvin]

I first read about the "Colt Python" in my youth in the book "First Blood" by Merrell, about veteran John Rambo
There, the old hunter praised him, saying that one could kill a deer from such a thing. On the bear today, the giants under NitroExpress are doing.

[Sumotori_380]

With a nitroexpress on a bear? Harsh!

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Ezekiel 25-17

and with him they go to the bear;

I read somewhere from the stories of experienced hunters how they went to a bear, having thick plywood and a hammer from their equipment. When meeting with a bear, you need to make him angry, then he rises on his hind legs, and at this moment you need to turn to him with a plywood shield. The bear pierces the plywood with its claws and the hunter can only bend them with a hammer from this side. Since the bear cannot pull out bent claws from thick plywood, it becomes absolutely defenseless before the hunter.

Somewhere in these recommendations, there is also advice on how to escape from a snake that attacked you. It turns out that this is quite, not difficult: when a snake attacks you, you need to seize the moment, grab it by the tail, and pull sharply: the snake's spine breaks and paralyzes it.
Alas, I read these tips a long time ago, I don’t remember all of them.

PS
Sometimes I remember an old Soviet cartoon about a hunter who begins his story with the words:
"I once went hunting, but forgot my gun at home ...."

[Lynx2000]

Quote: Bad_gr

Quote: Ezekiel 25-17

and with him they go to the bear;

I read somewhere from the stories of experienced hunters how they went to a bear, having thick plywood and a hammer from their equipment. When meeting with a bear, you need to piss him off,
PS
Sometimes I remember an old Soviet cartoon about a hunter who begins his story with the words:
"I once went hunting, but forgot my gun at home ...."

When we go fishing, climb the hills, or go to the forest for mushrooms, we go there for honeysuckle (Kamchatka grapes), we use the techniques of only this "sensei", without a gun and only with our bare hands

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Lynx2000

we use the techniques of only this "sensei", without a gun and only with our bare hands

In my opinion, this recommendation from him is much more practical:

[Bad_gr]

Protection from a wolf that attacked you:

The text of your comment is too short and, in the opinion of the site administration, does not carry useful information ..........
PS
Who would explain why in the comments there is this requirement for mandatory verbal diarrhea?

[Andrey Moskvin]

The bear does not stand on its hind legs, but rushes with its whole carcass, and tears with its claws and teeth. Video is full. And speed like a dog.

[Sumotori_380]

I met on the net that hunting with a short barrel is quite popular in the States. Like, the famous 50-caliber Desert Eagle is used for precisely these purposes

[fiv]

Well, they shot at Kennedy from 6.5 mm, at Ford from .38 then from 0.45, at Reagan in general from 0.22. So for hunting, the Americans take smaller guns)))

[Sumotori_380]

Kennedy from a decent trunk filled up

[Seamaster]

Bolt gun "Mannlicher-Carcano" caliber 6.5 mm, pre-war model.
Like our lightweight trilinear.

[Ezekiel 25-17]

Quote: Architect

For a bear?
Don't tell me, the net has statistics on the use of a firearm against a bear.
Read at your leisure.
R.S. By the way, you might be right. They go to the bear with a revolver, but they don't come back. One way ticket.

They go: it’s true that the barrel length is from 6 to 8 inches, which gives a stopping effect of up to 1000 joules. At the same time, it is rather a weapon that is constantly carried with them in the same Alaska, where the bears wander around the city, as in a forest. Well, and one more thing, but: men who take stronger 44 Magnums have energy up to 1570 joules. , but for women, the 357 Magnum with a barrel length of 6-8 inches is ideal in this sense. By the way, in Rus' they hunted a bear with a horn, so what about hunting with a revolver, this is far from the limit in terms of madness.

[ssergey1978]

Stopping action is not just joules. And 1000 J is not much even for a domestic pig.

[Sumotori_380]

An expansive bullet contributes well to increasing stopping power

[Seamaster]

And the Nagant bullet has only 210 joules.
The whole drum will have to be planted, and then with a bayonet, a bayonet ....
Or a checker.

[Sumotori_380]

Grizly? What a gnaw, so, with their hands suffocated ... (C)