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The pilots of the Central Military District over-fulfilled the annual plan for shooting and bombing on 20%

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The pilots of the Central Military District over-fulfilled the annual plan for shooting and bombing on 20%

The command of the Air Force and the air defense of the Central Military District summed up the school year ended. In total, the flight crews made more than 1600 sorties for practical bombing, which is 120% of the annual plan, about 1000 sorties with the use of firing-gun armament - 122% of the plan.

More than 20% increased the intensity of flight training of pilots, which took place at air bases stationed in the Perm and Krasnoyarsk Territories, Chelyabinsk, Novosibirsk, Sverdlovsk regions and the Kyrgyz Republic.

The total raid of the association pilots was more than 30 thousand hours. Of them at night - about 7 thousand hours. 2800 times they took off to conduct a training battle.
Almost 100 thousand tons of fuel was consumed to support the flights.

Special attention was paid to the training of young pilots who, on average, flew more than 120 hours.
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  1. fern
    fern 5 December 2012 12: 34
    +7
    Great news smile Soon pilots will overwork wink . Well this is a joke, of course. Preparation is never superfluous
    1. Sasha 19871987
      Sasha 19871987 5 December 2012 12: 49
      +2
      CVO pilots exceeded the annual plan for firing and bombing by 20% .... thank God
      1. VAF
        VAF 5 December 2012 16: 43
        -1
        Quote: sasha 19871987
        CVO pilots exceeded the annual plan for firing and bombing by 20% .... thank God


        Imagine. and if you plan 100 sorties for combat use, then by how much% everything will increase wassat
        1. VAF
          VAF 5 December 2012 17: 46
          +1
          Quote: vaf
          and if you plan 100 sorties for combat use,


          Well, and who is such a brave minus signer, huh? Show up ... talk ..... for aviation, since dissenting wassat
          1. Srgsoap
            Srgsoap 5 December 2012 18: 55
            0
            Hello dear, hello! Well, do not spoil your mood for them, let them rejoice ... Who needs to understand you. Hedgehog it is clear that this is very small ...
            1. Nick
              Nick 5 December 2012 19: 32
              +3
              Quote: SrgSoap
              Hello dear, hello! Well, do not spoil your mood for them, let them rejoice ... Who needs to understand you. Hedgehog it is clear that this is very small ...

              Do not forget, there is something to say to society, tell me, explain, do not consider it hard to enlighten the people, otherwise it smells of snobbery from your comments ...
          2. Rustam
            Rustam 5 December 2012 19: 59
            -1
            Hi Bratello wink
            and at first they minus, then they think wink

            you probably should say how wonderful everything is in our kingdom and we don't need anyone
            1. VAF
              VAF 5 December 2012 20: 09
              -1
              Quote: Rustam
              Hi Bratello


              Hi Rustam., I read you on Sigma ... great, +! drinks

              Well, think ..... it's because you need to think recourse after all fellow much easier lol





              1. Rustam
                Rustam 5 December 2012 20: 41
                +1
                you know i love helicopters is my passion wink
                like a ban with Rosoboronexport normally painted wink

                excellent photos
                you and I have a joint venture with you on airplanes (yes, an article about the Su-25, I posted a video of Arabs there which bombs were used in the end, it’s clear that they are powerful ???)
                I'm on helicopters laughing
              2. prunx
                prunx 5 December 2012 22: 29
                -3
                Quote: vaf
                Well, think ..... it’s necessary to think because it’s much easier

                Enough foolishness, I can give you such pictures from the NATO forces. From tya Zyuganov’s mile away!
                1. VAF
                  VAF 5 December 2012 22: 34
                  +4
                  Quote: prunx
                  From tya Zyuganov’s mile away!


                  Get out of here ... stool mummies wassat It’s better to wear gears in Lefortovo ....
                  Only here is how ... with waving and licking to be, and ... a turtle? wassat
                2. Rustam
                  Rustam 5 December 2012 22: 44
                  +1
                  From tyu Zyuganov’s mile away
                  ______________
                  So calm down as a friend and behave decently
          3. Botanologist
            Botanologist 5 December 2012 20: 41
            +1
            And here comes the question - how many pilots flew? And how many young ones?
            1. VAF
              VAF 5 December 2012 21: 53
              +2
              Quote: Botanologist
              And here comes the question - how many pilots flew? And how many young ones?


              a very well-posed question, very, and especially the second part of it, +! drinks

              Always and all my life in the normal Air Force was- the UBP plan is fulfilled or not fulfilled! All! and no interest!
              When planning UBP for the current year, they proceed from the possibilities. Availability, etc. therefore, the necessary number of MTS and TSA and .. no overspending is allocated !!!
              The only thing that may be overfulfillment is that it was planned to train up to a certain level, say 2 pilots, but it turned out that 3!
              And this .... statement of the press center, some kind of collective farm interview, honestly wassat
              Now now without snobbery. as dear Nick asks!

              1. Well, all the members of the forum who fellow the same goes for!
              We take a piece of paper and a pencil (a very useful piece, since you can see everything at once) and remember "Pupkin's Arichfmetika"! wassat

              - in connection with the "reforming" of the Air Force by the "favorite stool" and his senior comrades-leaders, all aviation has now been reduced to a minimum number of bases, i.e. flying equipment is brought together in one place. and everything else is either in storage or ... well, let's not talk about that either crying

              - so we can assume that at least 15 aircraft go out on a flight shift (in our time there were less than 20)!

              - the total number of flights for each machine per shift is 5-6, we take a minimum of a minimum of -5 and multiply, it turns out 75 flights per shift from the bottom we take again the very minimum — this is 40 for combat use!

              - flight shifts 3 per week, 4 weeks. a month we get 900 flights of which 480 to the database and this is a month !!!!!

              - now we multiply by the number of months of the year, I remind you, for those who fellow 12 months ... isn’t it difficult to multiply?

              - then we take the combat personnel of the Central Military Air Force, including helicopters, which also fly for bombing and firing from launchers and now scatter all that and the press center on everyone!

              Everything did not fit, I will try the ending in another comment "attach" hi
              1. VAF
                VAF 5 December 2012 21: 55
                +2
                Quote: vaf
                Everything did not fit, I will try the ending in another comment "attach"


                Ending:

                - Yes, I also ask you to take into account that during the exercises, which in the Central Military District this year carried out unreasonably almost all flights (except for RP and overhead of RTS) are performed on the PSU!

                Now we add, divide and subtract everything and get ..... the picture is far from oil!

                Well, still continue, or is everything clear? Botanologist. This is naturally not for you, but more for everyone. fellow
                (This does not apply to minuscule-quieters, what to take from you ... request except analyzes lol and then, probably spoiled wassat )
                1. prunx
                  prunx 5 December 2012 22: 22
                  -4
                  Quote: vaf
                  Ending:
                  - Yes, I also ask you to take into account that during the exercises, which in the Central Military District this year carried out unreasonably almost all flights (except for RP and overhead of RTS) are performed on the PSU!

                  Where is the droushka?
                  Quote: vaf
                  Now we add, divide and subtract everything and get ..... the picture is far from oil!

                  Compared to what?
                  Quote: vaf
                  This does not apply to minusculers-quieters, what to take with you ...

                  Are you talking about yourself?
                  1. VAF
                    VAF 5 December 2012 22: 40
                    +1
                    Quote: prunx
                    Are you talking about yourself?


                    I’m not repeating it twice, but for you, an ordinary reserve ... I’ll repeat, get out of here Tabouretkin’s licking! angry
                    For you from me eternal MINUS and your "brothers" in ass-licking stooltkin and the company ETERNAL MINUS and DISPUTE! fool
                    1. prunx
                      prunx 5 December 2012 23: 00
                      -4
                      Quote: vaf
                      lap stool

                      Well, that’s enough. You’ve never licked anyone’s ass. Each to the extent of his development sees what he wants to see. It’s just that your constant base, monotonous, lying, stupid bastard and picture flooding is already sick! He endured for a long time. I’m you, even when you were with the lieutenant epaulettes, I remember! Well, I already expressed my opinion about you.
                      1. VAF
                        VAF 5 December 2012 23: 14
                        +3
                        Quote: prunx
                        Well, that’s enough. You’ve never licked anyone’s ass. Each to the extent of his development sees what he wants to see.


                        Not my method. but with people like you ... you only need to ...


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                        prunx RU September 18, 2011 15:42 | The army demands to remove Serdyukov! September 18 - All-Russian action and adoption of an appeal to the President.
                        -22

                        Something I don’t understand why you are all up in arms against Serdyukov. Why does he destroy the army? The one that was before his arrival, with sapper shovels, with the fathers as commanders who stole everything clean? I can tell you that he is not destroying any army, because there is nothing to destroy, everything was destroyed before him. You have poured out the last brains simply from drunkenness. Nobody is going to reanimate the old army, because the patient has long died and stinks. Serdyuk is trying to create a new army, I repeat for the stupid, NEW. Serdyukov is not to blame for anything. Where have you been in 1990, 1996? Bl..yad, ten million ideological fighters, where are you all the stupid goats, I'm asking you !? And now the stinkers groan, smearing their snot: "Down with Serdyukov." Head against the wall is the only way out for you. And comedians generally subscribe: "student, did not serve; salesman, did not serve." We heard the ringing, but we don't know where he is. Well, of course, the only way out is to drop the tandem and everything will work out right away, a good, smart, worthy one will come ... Who? What is the last name! I don’t know who will come, but I’ll say for sure that if he doesn’t ... he will not do it, but if a liberal comes, he will complete what his predecessors did not complete in the 90s! Therefore, terpily unfinished, keep quiet, if you do not want to serve, get out of the army. It's just that with one gyrus another job is hard to find, right? It is better to command schoolchildren, wipe their pants at headquarters, steal and moan, moan and moan under the yoke of tandem. After all, they sat for so many years with their tongue in the ass thrusting, even when in three years of new technology one UAZ entered the unit. And now the jaws were open. I want to say to all the current and retired officers of the Russian Federation who began service before 1990: it is you, and not what Putin and Serdyukov pissed away the army, with your active participation or tacit consent. I want to say to the youth that they would not succumb to the right location, in many respects it depends on you what the new army will be. Nothing happens right away. Everything is created from scratch, so there will be mistakes, the one who does nothing is not mistaken.

                        And this is in your "dossier" ... you can't rake with a shovel ... so I repeat once again ... get out of here ... asshole! angry

                      2. prunx
                        prunx 5 December 2012 23: 47
                        -2
                        I subscribe to each of my own, at least try to read further than the first line. I beat painfully and hard, with my fist and word. It was such shitty people like you who turned the Stalinist USSR into the Soviets, and then this prosrali.
                        And you will command your boots. And it's up to you to decide who is here and who is not for you!
                      3. VAF
                        VAF 6 December 2012 00: 13
                        +3
                        Quote: prunx
                        I subscribe to each of my own, at least try to read further than the first line.


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                        prunx RU October 7, 2011 22:22 | Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov: About the Kalashnikov assault rifle, military police and new military salaries
                        -1
                        They came, they scolded the minister, instructed the pluses to each other - oh well done, it’s been a good night.

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                        prunx RU November 4, 2011 19:01 | All-Russian Officer Meeting
                        -7
                        Rokhlin was just too stupid - a boy. Such as he eat for breakfast.

                        Avatar Negative Rating
                        prunx RU October 29, 2011 10:03 | Russian general: The army is ruined, and NATO understands this ...
                        -9
                        They themselves have stolen, weep themselves? Moreover, they deceive the command, and Serdyukov is to blame. Do you yourself understand what you write? You have to give everyone under the tribunal there!

                        Avatar Negative Rating
                        prunx RU December 3, 2011 17:34 | 115 years marks the birthday of the great Russian commander Georgy Zhukov
                        -3
                        Comrad, I support one hundred percent. But Zhukov’s pompous cock, and certainly he can’t be called a great Russian commander, Rzhev alone was worth it!

                        Continue or stop it? Well, come out like a half-day on the day of victory, and conceive that you are blathering about Zhukov or on the day of mourning about Rokhlin ??

                      4. prunx
                        prunx 6 December 2012 01: 09
                        -2
                        Quote: vaf
                        Continue or stop it? Well, come out like a half-day on the day of victory, and conceive that you are blathering about Zhukov or on the day of mourning about Rokhlin ??

                        I freely talk about it wherever I wish, and I can defend my point of view with reason.
                        Quote: vaf
                        Ass will become a rose, in a word ..... unconventional!

                        You see how I revealed your cheap and stupid essence, it’s just that you, the clown, the marshal is plush, you still don’t understand this. It's you here with the boys, for your epaulettes plush, valandaeshsya. Well, love each other, love so much! There’s a fable about you cocks!
                        "How, dear Cockerel, you sing loudly, it is important!" -
                        “And you, Cuckoo, my light,
                        How to pull smoothly and lingeringly:
                        In the whole forest we don’t have such a singer! ” -
                        "I am ready to listen to you, my kumanek, century." -
                        “And you, beauty, I swear
                        As soon as you shut up, then I can’t wait,
                        So you start again ...
                        Is such a voice taken?
                        And clean, and gentle, and high! ..
                        Yeah, you’re kind of like that: not so big
                        And the songs - what is your nightingale! " -
                        “Thank you, godmother; but, in my conscience,
                        You sing better than a bird of paradise.
                        I refer to everyone in this. ”
                        Then Sparrow happened to say to them: “Friends!
                        Though you hoarse, praising each other, -
                        All your music is bad! .. "
                        Why, without fear of sin,
                        Does the cuckoo praise the Rooster?
                        For praising the Cuckoo.
                2. Hammer
                  Hammer 6 December 2012 08: 16
                  +1
                  2 vaf
                  The article talks about the spent 100 thousand tons of fuel. I am a person far from aviation, but pampering my soul for it. Therefore, in your professional opinion, can you say on this figure - does it coincide with the voiced number of flights or do comrades star?
                  1. VAF
                    VAF 6 December 2012 11: 44
                    0
                    Quote: Hammer
                    can this figure be said - does it coincide with the announced number of flights or do comrades star?


                    That would not .. "injure" delicate eyes fellow when reading my komentov the answer wrote in PM, +! wink
    2. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 5 December 2012 12: 53
      +3
      Directly Soviet reports), which in principle pleases!
      1. TUNISIA
        TUNISIA 5 December 2012 13: 45
        +5
        The news is wonderful and makes you proud of the country and the army., And also increases morale. Most importantly, in the next year and beyond, there should be no news that they were under-flying, under-shooting, under-receiving and other under-... due to lack of funding. Who will allow this - immediately recognize the enemy of the Russian people and shoot by hanging with the publication of the video on YouTube.
      2. VAF
        VAF 5 December 2012 16: 45
        +3
        ShturmKGB
        Straight Soviet reports)


        In Soviet times. for this .. at least ... removed from office, because. these standards do not reach the standards for combat use of the 1st division !!!!!
        What can please?
        1. Nick
          Nick 5 December 2012 19: 35
          +1
          Quote: vaf
          What can please?

          The good news is that the trend has changed, from the 10 hours to the 120 ...
          1. VAF
            VAF 5 December 2012 19: 59
            +1
            Quote: Nick
            that the trend has changed, from 10 hours of flight to 120 ...


            Well, if only the trend .. then yes ..... really happy, wink
        2. prunx
          prunx 5 December 2012 22: 27
          -3
          Quote: vaf
          In Soviet times. for this .. at least ... removed from office

          But compared with imperial times, it’s not very bad.
          Quote: vaf
          these standards do not reach the standards for combat use of the 1st division

          And to voice these norms weakly? In general, the figures are given on average, and this is the same as the average temperature in the hospital.
        3. 6 December 2012 00: 12
          -1
          Quote: vaf
          In Soviet times. for this .. at least ... removed from office, because. these standards do not reach the standards for combat use of the 1st division !!!!!
          What can please?

          Yes, enough already to lament: "here it was before, then ...". Everything, no "before", is now. Nobody argues that it is better to be rich and healthy than poor and sick, this is understandable. Nick is quite right: "the main trend has changed."
          Is this even possible to rejoice? 9 years ago, the average raid was from 12-44 hours.

          Here's the news:
          The maximum flying time of a pilot in the Western Military District exceeded 215 hours per year

          In the Western Military District (ZVO) in 2012, the average flying time for each pilot increased significantly compared to last year and reached 125 hours.
          “At the same time, the average flight time of crew commanders was more than 175 hours. Compared to last year, the raid increased by more than 20 percent, ”Colonel Andrei Bobrun, head of the press service of the Western Military District, said on Monday.

          At the same time, he noted that the pilots from Kursk (in the “nomination” front-line and fighter aircraft) with a flying time of more than 2012 hours achieved the best performance in 150. In army aviation - the air base in Vyazma with a flying time of over 215 hours. Aviation units of transport aircraft have a flight time of at least 170 hours.

          According to experts, the scientifically based minimum annual raid for military pilots is 110-130 hours. In 2003, the average annual raid per pilot in the Russian Air Force ranged from 12 to 44 hours.

          http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/25568/

          There will still be 200 and 300 hours.
    3. VAF
      VAF 5 December 2012 16: 42
      +1
      Quote: Farn
      Great news


      What is beautiful then ???? After all, the interest then goes again .. the interest .. think about these tiny little digits ... 1600 sorties on b / m ... all ..... it’s understandable ..... then one regiment flies on a su-24 -h yes a bit of the Su-27S toss and that's it ..... what is the reason for that ???
      1. fern
        fern 5 December 2012 16: 50
        +3
        But what about 120 hours a year ??? Is it so bad sad ? If compared with previous years
        1. VAF
          VAF 5 December 2012 17: 39
          +1
          Quote: Farn
          But what about 120 hours a year ??? Is it so bad


          So what does this have to do with it? Of course, this is not bad, although it’s bad that 30 thousand hours in the afternoon and only 7 thousand at night .. that’s generally not at any gate. All pilots of the 1st class confirm their qualifications (and navigators) only at NIGHT !!!

          Now, and estimate the classification of the entire flight structure .. how many!

          In previous years, there were other norms of raid and the universal awe of the Top leaders in the person of those who are now! +! soldier

          Yes, I answered all the questions in detail in the article on the approach with new systems (the article where Kvochur speaks: drinks) wink
          1. fern
            fern 5 December 2012 17: 54
            +1
            Thank you very much )
      2. Artem6688
        Artem6688 5 December 2012 17: 35
        -2
        Netblyat, right now we will whine "the army has been torn apart" "the ice flies" "why so few? We must fly 10 hours a day!"
        1. VAF
          VAF 5 December 2012 17: 56
          +1
          Quote: Artem6688
          must fly 10 hours a day!


          Firstly, there is a raid rate for a flight shift, both in terms of number and type of flights. As well as raid standards. Plus, there is also .. a start time!


          Quote: Artem6688
          Netblyat, right now we will whine "the army has been destroyed" "the ice flies"


          And if you don't understand a damn thing, then where are you "sawing your sting"? wassat

          Go learn your lessons! soldier

          Bad end ...... mlyatpatriot! wassat

          1. Lissyara
            Lissyara 5 December 2012 23: 01
            +2
            Earrings, a wise guy would be in 36th siduha and for 4 hours of patrolling. The designer forgot to modify the heating and ventilation of the ass and back, as well as tighten the massagers.
            1. Alex 241
              Alex 241 5 December 2012 23: 13
              +3
              No, let’s start as they say with traditional fishing methods.
              1. Lissyara
                Lissyara 6 December 2012 00: 20
                +1
                In dogon about "10 o'clock":
          2. taurus69
            taurus69 6 December 2012 11: 04
            0
            we produce convertibles - inexpensively! with a guarantee! from a customer’s car!
  2. strannik595
    strannik595 5 December 2012 12: 36
    +1
    guys dance well ...... Schaub raised the plan by 150% the next year and they again exceeded it
    1. alexng
      alexng 5 December 2012 13: 05
      +2
      It is better to overfulfill the plan in exercises in order to avoid shortages and misses in wartime. But it would be better if these wartimes would not have happened at all. Guys must live and grow their children and teach a new generation.
    2. VAF
      VAF 5 December 2012 16: 46
      +1
      Quote: strannik595
      guys dance well ..


      very good ... how many incidents, accidents and disasters this year ?????


      Quote: strannik595
      next year Schaub raised the plan by 150% and they again exceeded it


      It will be higher .. there will be 10 planes at each base .. and there will be a plan of 100 flights, here you have 1500% of the plan!
      1. Lissyara
        Lissyara 6 December 2012 00: 36
        +1
        Earrings, and it’s hard for people to explain to Bosko that there is such a thing as metal aging.
        Yes, you blow the most sophisticated engines onto the Su-27, along with all the latest electronics, but from this the 20-year-old glider will not become newer.
        I’ll keep silent about the Su-24M.
  3. SSR
    SSR 5 December 2012 12: 42
    +2
    In total, the flight crews completed over 1600 sorties for practical bombing, which makes up 120% of the annual plan, about 1000 sorties with the use of small arms and cannons - 122% of the plan.

    I understand that for example: 120% of the annual one was completed .. and for example 1000 planes participated and the same but 150 planes participated ...... something like that ... but the fact that the pilots fly intensively is good .. how many do we have today?
    I honestly don’t understand .. maybe VAF will help
    can only be "100 thousand tons of fuel." guessing, counting. even if you estimate that the fighter eats 5 tons at a time ....... (((
    something at me Pichalka in numbers turns out ... although I do not understand in this thread (((
    1. fern
      fern 5 December 2012 12: 47
      +1
      I also have a question " Special attention was paid to the training of young pilots who, on average, flew more than 120 hours."How many young pilots fly in other countries a year? In the USA, China?"
      1. leon-iv
        leon-iv 5 December 2012 12: 49
        +2
        there the calculation system is different.
        Therefore, for example, the Indians have hellish raids of 300 hours. But it turns out there is flying simulators. In general, you need to know who they think.
        1. urzul
          urzul 5 December 2012 14: 16
          +3
          That is why India has 33 fighter losses over the last 4 years
          1. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 5 December 2012 15: 42
            +1
            There, for the most part, neither the pilots are to blame, but the maintenance of the equipment.
        2. merkel1961
          merkel1961 5 December 2012 14: 33
          +2
          I don’t know how the Indians did, and in Soviet times there was a rumor that the Americans considered a raid from starting to turning off the engine after a flight, whereas for us, from the start of take-off to the release of the runway after a run. 120-130 hours for the lieutenant after school, I judge by myself, it was normal, in the third year they scored 550 for passing to the 1st grade, military use in the afternoon on the 3rd, at night on the 2nd, plus SMU and a minimum, minimum night on 1st. In ap. 217 73 VA, half of BVVAUL-82 graduates in August 85th became first-class pilots who did not have typhoid and hepatitis, who went strictly according to the training program for the class. They caught SMU in winter and got due to the lack of clouds flying in summer over reference-free terrain. Now according to the figures of the Air Force Central Military Command plan, I’m not much mistaken if the combat use is approximately equal to 1 adibs out of 34 and 136 apibs on the Su-156m17 and the Khanabad bap on the Su-3. And this on such a big district ?!
          1. VAF
            VAF 5 December 2012 16: 38
            +1
            Quote: merkel1961
            and in Soviet times there was a rumor


            This is just a rumor, everything is the same as ours, from the moment of starting to the release of the runway, but the timing at the Tower was usually carried out ... it was reported on the air ... "landing ... so much," here's your landing! +!

            Quote: merkel1961
            120-130 hours for a lieutenant after school, I judge by myself, it was normal,


            This is again with us ... yes it is very normal, if I graduated on the Su-17th and came to the regiment on the Su-17th, then at that time at 60 hours a year in two in my pocket, and now the norm is 150, and he flew 120, a question?

            Everything else, write everything correctly, but it also depended on the level of training upon graduation from the school, so I had 369 hours and the third grade and at the beginning of the 2-year service I already had the first and the level of training was appropriate! And now ..... with "manure" at 40-100 hours maximum after "school" what level of training can we talk about?

            By the numbers you’re not mistaken at all .. the numbers of the chickens are laughing !!! soldier+ drinks
            1. merkel1961
              merkel1961 5 December 2012 17: 44
              +2
              EVVAUL, and the year of release? I visited Taganrog at 85,86,88,89, driving the Su-7u and Su-17 from the Baranovichi and Šiauliai repair bases to Kizyl-Arvat and back, in the 90th Su-17um3 drove, to us Graduates of the 90th arrived in Mary already with the 3rd grade, and there were always a lot of guys in TurkMO, this is MiG-21 PFM and flight time (I had = 233 hours) were retrained after the first officer leave already in the 83rd ( to the regiment) on the Su-17 with Al-7 via the Su-7u.
              1. VAF
                VAF 5 December 2012 17: 59
                +2
                Quote: merkel1961
                and year of release?


                1974, not Yeysk, but Chernihiv! soldier
                1. igor67
                  igor67 5 December 2012 23: 00
                  +3
                  VAF,
                  Sergei welcomes, if Chernigov flew in Konotop?
                  1. VAF
                    VAF 5 December 2012 23: 27
                    +3
                    Quote: igor67
                    then flew in Konotop?


                    hi Play, no, I haven't. there is the 105th wap, and I "studied" in the 701st, and trained already in the combat on the 4th year!
                    1. igor67
                      igor67 5 December 2012 23: 33
                      +2
                      VAF,
                      still was nearby drinks All cars were sold to England on target. Only this and the catapult simulator remained. I didn’t take a picture, though.
                2. igor67
                  igor67 5 December 2012 23: 16
                  +4
                  all. what remains. earlier cadets of the Chernigov school flew here. last Elka
                  1. VAF
                    VAF 5 December 2012 23: 43
                    +3
                    Quote: igor67
                    all. what's left


                    Last year we celebrated the 60th anniversary ... with a smooth transition to Air Force Day .... drank .... damn it. do not swim so much! +! drinks
                    recourse soldier

                    1. igor67
                      igor67 5 December 2012 23: 55
                      +2
                      VAF,
                      I present. necessarily faceted glass drinks I remember the 60th anniversary of our Rembaza, the Polish and Sri Lankan delegations arrived. Non-military atache. shorter stacks laid in the car like firewood laughingwe also had losses laughing
                3. merkel1961
                  merkel1961 6 December 2012 00: 30
                  +1
                  He visited the distillation in Chernigov, once home to Voronezh hit the road through Kiev, sat idle for a couple of weeks, drank tasty beer there drinks , the Dniester bridge was crossing, the current was not weak. MiG-23s are there and in Armavir, and Yeysk fired on the Su-17. Chernigov and Taganrog are already Russia, unlike Sital-Chai and Bolshoi Shirak, where there was no desire to linger. But Baranovichi after the desert, generally a resort! Four plots in 1-1,5 months! Summer! good The commander has always been afraid-credit for the vacation!
                  1. Lissyara
                    Lissyara 6 December 2012 00: 51
                    +1
                    Well, next year we thump. 60 years of college. In the glorious city of Kiev!
      2. Lissyara
        Lissyara 5 December 2012 13: 07
        +2
        Well, if you believe the article of Captain 2nd Rank M. YURYEV for 1995 "The combat readiness of the flight personnel of the regular and reserve components of the air forces of the fleet and the marines is also maintained at a high level. In particular, the average annual flight time of pilots of all specialties in the US Navy reaches 270 - 290 h, which, in the opinion of American experts, should ensure the solution of the tasks of gaining air superiority and maintaining dominance at sea in regional conflicts of any intensity. "
        About China "The annual flight time is on average 80 hours for bomber pilots, 150 hours for ground attack pilots, and up to 200 hours for fighter pilots flying Su-27, Su-30, Jian-10 and -11 aircraft, which comparable to the average annual flight time of fighter pilots in the US Air Force and Navy (up to 215 hours). "
        The numbers are different everywhere.
        1. leon-iv
          leon-iv 5 December 2012 13: 11
          +1
          By the way, like on a gamble, the comrade EMNIP military aircraft counted the raid there really for everyone except the US decks there is some kind of mess. In reality, people will not be able to fly on fighters and IS with so many consequences.
      3. VAF
        VAF 5 December 2012 16: 28
        0
        Quote: Farn
        I also have a question "Particular attention was paid to the training of young pilots, who on average flew over 120 hours."


        I answer, according to the new order on the norms for a raid on confirmation of length of service in preferential terms, a raid of 150-160 hours is needed ... how many flew?
        Still need to explain something? it saves what they can count as retraining for a new type of aircraft, but if you don't have this type as new? That ... so settling down ... here very, very ... prematurely!
        well, it’s understandable ... because the press service needs to say something wink
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 5 December 2012 18: 42
          0
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        2. Lissyara
          Lissyara 5 December 2012 21: 46
          +1
          Earrings, we said this:
          "P-do, do not move a bag"
          1. VAF
            VAF 5 December 2012 22: 01
            0
            Quote: LiSSyara
            "P-do, do not move a bag"


            Seryoga, but noticed a tendency, as "news" about the Stouretkinsky disappears from the "air". so immediately his "admirers and amateurs" immediately .. float to the surface? wassat

            Or they forgot that the entire archive with their comments is hanging on everyone. where did they rush to defend Taburetkin’s pack? bully

            Already sat quietly and ... not a shame! soldier
            1. Alex 241
              Alex 241 5 December 2012 22: 06
              +3
              Guys here is the link, interesting documents, see http://pfc-joker.livejournal.com/18268.html
              1. Lissyara
                Lissyara 5 December 2012 22: 31
                +2
                And, 1535 they saw and neighing.
                I'm talking about my collective farm.
                For 50 raids per year on the A-50 do nefig. You will just be a log there. Rather, a passenger.
                On earth, playing "computer games" is stupid.
                I remember my 5th year when I was having fun at the "Frontier" (without a teacher). It was nothing more than a computer game for us. When targets were moving at speeds up to 750 m / s and at the same time jumping in height from km to 30.
                True, we and the MiG-31 (our modification) flew up to 6000 km / h, and its ceiling was up to 44 km.
            2. Lissyara
              Lissyara 5 December 2012 22: 16
              +2
              Serge, as in the Navy!
              "Mr. but does not sink" wassat
              In order to prepare a professional operator A-50 (without your "jokes" with a breakdown in combat on the rise), he, as "Our Father", must know the tactics of the air defense forces (namely, the air defense IA with all the "maneuvers", "direct", and "Dogon"), + 300 hours of flying on Mukhomor per year, and taking into account the A-50U, also features of the automated control system of other types and branches of the armed forces. That being said, be a great mathematician.
              Today I showed the grandson of one of our employees a slide rule, so he looked at it like a primitive man.
              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 5 December 2012 22: 19
                +2
                Seryoz, I guess I was drinks But what about the calculator?
                1. Lissyara
                  Lissyara 5 December 2012 22: 26
                  +2
                  My dad, when he trained cadets on a campaign, he did it simply. Curcul overboard (the main thing is that fish do not get poisoned with plastic). Chol on compAS!
                  And in the hands of a sextant, a ruler and a map.
                  Sasha, electronics have one unpleasant property - to refuse.
                  I’m even running and hiking, but in addition to GPS, the sextant and my favorite line are always with me.
                  (By the way, when Dad went camping, he took 10 of them with him, 3-50 rubles each. Soviet apiece. When he wasn’t sick, he broke them. He was corrected only when the programmable hens appeared, but he drowned them too) .
                  1. Alex 241
                    Alex 241 5 December 2012 22: 34
                    +1
                    Earring boots in battle more reliable drinks
                2. Lissyara
                  Lissyara 5 December 2012 22: 58
                  +2
                  Sanya, for my grandson you are afraid of being too old drinks
    2. VAF
      VAF 5 December 2012 16: 48
      +2
      Quote: SSR
      something at me Pichalka in numbers turns out ... although I do not understand in this thread


      Now, a second sane person was found, +! drinks
      1. leon-iv
        leon-iv 5 December 2012 17: 01
        +1
        VAF
        And in the USSR Air Force needed a raid in the SMU?
        And then we like a snowstorm impassable planes constantly fly.
        1. VAF
          VAF 5 December 2012 17: 44
          0
          Quote: leon-iv
          And in the USSR Air Force needed a raid in the SMU?


          Mandatory ...... at least 50% !!! Therefore, when filling out a flight sheet, you always write a plaque in the MU column .. in the clouds and beyond the clouds!


          Quote: leon-iv
          And then we like a snowstorm impassable planes constantly fly.


          The class is confirmed, and if navigators have easier calls. then the pilots ..... only landing .... Give 4 pieces and do not sin, and not just with M / M, but with of course M / M for this type, +! drinks
          1. Lissyara
            Lissyara 5 December 2012 21: 44
            +1
            Sergey, hello!
            And if memory serves, it was recorded in the flight book.
            1. VAF
              VAF 5 December 2012 22: 03
              +1
              Quote: LiSSyara
              And if memory serves, it was recorded in the flight book.


              So of course it does not change, I wrote it in the flight sheet ... first, and before that, check with the weather bulletin, so as not to "screw up", and then in the flight book. and the flight sheet is filed into the flight case, together with the means of the SOC and the results of combat work. magnetic protocols, etc.! +! drinks
              1. Lissyara
                Lissyara 5 December 2012 22: 19
                +2
                Our flight (bamazhka) was intermediate. They were taken away at the headquarters of the secondment regiment, and everything was entered into the flight.
                Well so and flew on other equipment.
                1. VAF
                  VAF 5 December 2012 23: 04
                  +2
                  Quote: LiSSyara
                  Our flight (bamazhka) was intermediate.


                  She has a SHEET on this basis. when especially for class or for confirmation, then ... specially the clerk in caligraphic handwriting, naturally for drinks deduced all the lines and digits ..... after all, the thing then went to the General Staff of the Air Force soldier
                  1. Lissyara
                    Lissyara 6 December 2012 00: 11
                    +1
                    No, the TE commander collected them from us, disappeared somewhere, then all of this was recorded in books.
                    We have a fig knows where it went, but he had the right to wear wings ("chicken", "bird") with the letter "M" on his chest. Moreover, on the suit it was a flight sign, but on the jacket it was exclusively air defense. (well, somehow the navigator M with a bomb did not quite fit into the TE A-50).
      2. Lissyara
        Lissyara 5 December 2012 21: 48
        +2
        Not PICHALKA, but normal mathematics.
        The old principle "You give a five-year plan in 4 years".
  4. askort154
    askort154 5 December 2012 12: 52
    +1
    [Farn]
    Great news Soon pilots will overwork

    An over-watchman (watchman) or sex-porn can be overtaxed. An overworked pilot is a potential disaster, on the conscience of physicians. And the news is good!
  5. to4kavserdce
    to4kavserdce 5 December 2012 13: 15
    0
    Mood rose PPC cool !!! fellow
    1. Stiletto
      Stiletto 5 December 2012 14: 06
      +2
      Spread wings, straighten!
  6. alex20066
    alex20066 5 December 2012 14: 02
    +1
    Hurray !!!! Now fighter and attack aircraft would have exceeded the plan! And not one year!
  7. tichsha
    tichsha 5 December 2012 14: 31
    0
    pah. pah, that would not jinx it. well done!
  8. Allitet
    Allitet 5 December 2012 14: 52
    0
    Very good news! Great asses will grow out of such raids in the future !!!))
  9. jagdpanzer
    jagdpanzer 5 December 2012 15: 12
    0
    well, at least with such a mess at least something is done, but I remember until recently they did not fly at all
  10. Bykov.
    Bykov. 5 December 2012 15: 20
    0
    At 20 percent, but why so little :))))
  11. Tatarus
    Tatarus 5 December 2012 16: 02
    0
    Quote: TUNISIA
    The most important thing is that next year and beyond, there should be no news that they were under-flying, under-shooting, under-receiving and other under-... due to lack of funding
    The war will show who is under and who is above and beyond. Only there will be no time to compare.
  12. sashka
    sashka 5 December 2012 16: 51
    +4
    In Saratov, the Government reported last year that productivity in some industries increased by 200% .. Journalists digged and found .. It turns out that they did ONE machine a year and suddenly did TWO .. So here too, plaque .. Cunning numbers ..
    1. Artem6688
      Artem6688 5 December 2012 17: 44
      -1
      Kama if not to believe the journalists then
    2. VAF
      VAF 5 December 2012 17: 45
      +2
      Quote: Sasha
      So here with a touch .. Sly numbers ..


      Sanya, absolutely central, +! drinks
  13. Trevis
    Trevis 5 December 2012 22: 34
    +2
    Keep it up! good