Under Russian attacks, the Ukrainian army suffers huge losses, trying to hold the western quarters of Artemivsk

One of the hottest sectors of the front in the framework of the special operation in Ukraine is the Artemovsk (Bakhmut) direction, where fierce battles continue.

The so-called "Bakhmut meat grinder" turns into a "Bakhmut oven". Ukrainian fighters are being destroyed by dense Russian artillery fire, with little or no opportunity to hide in high-rise buildings.

The city is in an almost complete tactical encirclement, however, the Ukrainian command continues to transfer reinforcements there along the remaining roads controlled by the Ukrainian Armed Forces. All of them are shot through by Russian artillery, due to which a significant part of the military equipment is destroyed before reaching the city.

South-west of Artemovsk, units of the Russian PMC "Wagner" attacked the village of Ivanovskoye, held by militants of the Kyiv regime. In Artemovsk itself, according to reports from a number of military correspondents, the advance of "musicians" in the northern direction is noted. In addition, it is reported about the offensive of the Russian army in the area of ​​​​the village of Grigorovka.

Earlier, the curator of the PMC "Wagner" Yevgeny Prigozhin announced the received combat order, according to which the Wagner units are guaranteed the supply of ammunition in the required volumes. It was also promised to strengthen the flanks of the positions of the "orchestra" by units of the regular army. In Artemovsk, the "Wagnerites" were given complete freedom of action.

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[isergil]

Thank God, the issue of ammunition for Wagner was resolved. It hurts to know that our defenders died due to lack of ammunition. Take care of yourself, everyone's health and life.

[Corrosion inhibitor]

But I have another question...

... the Ukrainian army suffers huge losses ...

It's written like this every time. Even I am here in Moscow, at home on a stool, in great doubt ...
Huge loss - how much? What can this be compared to? With our losses maybe? Then where are the numbers?.. Such questions arise. But no one will give you answers.
On the other hand... And what is the population of Ukraine? How many children are born there per day who are doomed to continue to be pig-born, i.e. get education from euro-short-lived and moral freaks of all stripes and live like this until the end of life ...? How many - one hundred, five hundred, maybe a thousand? .. Here is the data from the network:

In total, 2022 thousand little Ukrainians were born in incomplete 195.

If you google, you will see for yourself. That is, it is about 16250 pigs coming out every month in the future. And about the same number every year is growing up so much already now to join the ranks of new geeks, instead of those that have been disposed of. This is easy to understand because babies are born every year.
And what do we cover it with? Here are excerpts from articles from the past month. This is VO:

He (Prigozhin) noted that every day the Armed Forces of Ukraine bring 400-600 people to the city and they lose about the same amount.

This is the best result, but what does it give? ... 400-600 is an average of 500. Total 500 times 30 days in a month = 15000 people. month. A purely theoretical figure, in fact it is less, because the Wagner meat grinder does not work so efficiently every day.
As a result, we get that the losses of ukrov in the short term do not cover profits, and the number of geeks, ... sorry - victims of the war for coming out "freedom" and coming out "justice", is only growing month by month. Their ignorance is also growing, which will further turn into inadequacy and insensitivity to the obvious. In short - the pigs run wild, and it will only be more difficult to deal with meat preparations with everything ...
Now tell me ... it turns out that huge losses, at least, are ineffective?
If the answer is yes, then it is correct. It turns out that they must be at least twice as large to end the war this year.
Well, for those who are going to live in a state of war for another 10 years together with Donbass and Lugansk, you can believe that the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are huge, believe in anything that our generals and politicians are great, that they are so humane... and do not bomb Lviv from the very beginning, like Berlin in the Great Patriotic War.
Let me remind you that from the very beginning of the war, by special order of I.V. Stalin, long-range aviation of the Red Army bombed Berlin and other German cities. And it didn't stop until the very end.
Carpet bombing is not a missile strike, it is much more effective than "huge losses" on the front line, especially in the rear, in the middle of the pigsty, it could be just like that.
It is not necessary to drive bombers there, but the damage should be regular, tangible and covered by decline. Only then will the banner of victory again rise above the new Reichstag.

[Corrosion inhibitor]

* Red Army ... (could not help but correct the error in the proper name in this case).

[Shurik70]

But I wonder if foreigners remained in Artemovsk-Bakhmut?
They take money to kill, not to be killed.
And something I doubt that someone other than the Slavs is able to fight there now.

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote: Corrosion_Inhibitor

A purely theoretical figure, in fact it is less, because the Wagner meat grinder does not work so efficiently every day.
As a result, we get that the losses of ukrov in the short term do not cover profits, and the number of geeks, ... sorry - the victims of the war for coming out "freedom" and coming out "justice", is only growing month by month.

But you don't think that only Wagner disposes of ukrozoldatenes a day, do you? In other directions, where 60, where 80, where 120 ... in general, under 800-1000 cut harem pants daily runs.
This is the first.
60% of those born are necessarily girls. This is the law. And the women's battalions remained in the last century - therefore, there are only a few women who actually fight on the battlefield.
This is the second.
And finally, the third: during the time of the NWO, out of the currently existing chubaks, they managed to collect a million and a little to the front, and by hook or by crook they dumped them in Europe - about TWELVE million! 11 times more than thrown to the front. The statistics are official EU.
You don't think the trend will change, do you? I am sure that they are not, and that growing up they will also flee to Poland, the Czech Republic and other nearby countries.
So consider whether the number of recyclables exceeds the number of births or not. I counted. If you operate with your counting scheme, it turns out that the future blockheads of Oorfene Juice grow up in a month as much as the current ukrozoldatens are disposed of per day :)

[Sergiy_OSV]

Quote: Corrosion_Inhibitor

But I have another question...

Well, you are a person and a fascist, however. He was going to destroy all Ukrainians.
Start with the Anglo-Saxons for a start, and then you look - how they stop the historical Russian territories and the people to spud - maybe the Ukrainians will remember that they are just Russian people.

[Valery-010]

So it is necessary to move forward, and not engage in tactical perversions and negotiations with the AraKhamias. After all, victory comes only after surrender.

[Igool]

Quote: isergil

Thank God, the issue of ammunition for Wagner was resolved.

[Prokop_Pork]

Grigorovka is not on the map, you can’t get close to this one yet. In the summary of Grigorovka, which is northwest of Bogdanovka.

[Rumata]

If you denazify 500 ukronats per day, then in order for the VFU to be unfit for combat, according to Clausewitz, you need to destroy at least 500, which is 000 days, or almost 1000 years.

[SanJoHun]

God, what 500, well, what nonsense. You can somehow imagine visually such a number and understand that they will not physically fit in those 2 quarters.

[Terenin]

Quote from SanJoHun

God, what 500, well, what nonsense. You can somehow imagine visually such a number and understand that they will not physically fit in those 2 quarters.

Well, count: 27 million dead Soviet citizens during the Second World War divided by 1418 days. It turns out that 19 thousand people died per day (for understanding - a division per day!)

[lukash66]

Quote: Terenin

Quote from SanJoHun

God, what 500, well, what nonsense. You can somehow imagine visually such a number and understand that they will not physically fit in those 2 quarters.

Well, count: 27 million dead Soviet citizens during the Second World War divided by 1418 days. It turns out that 19 thousand people died per day (for understanding - a division per day!)

Ek you had enough. These are total losses, along with the civilian population. If my memory serves me right, then the total losses of the dead, prisoners (most of them killed and tortured in concentration camps) and crippled, unfit for military service due to injury, approx. 11 million. This is directly in the Red Army. So the division must be cut down to two / three regiments per day. When more, sometimes less. It is clear that in the first two years of the war there were more irretrievable losses, from the second half of the 43rd they steadily decreased.

[Alexander Salenko]

Fit and more, but how many are beaten on the roads? And the previous commentator about three years, this is only Artyomovsk with its environs, the Wagner PMC's band of operations, if it has been reduced, will be more than 30 kilometers.

[dmi.pris1]

According to estimates, the number of the Armed Forces of Ukraine reaches about 1300000 characters. Plus the Ministry of Internal Affairs and so on. It must be borne in mind that over time there will be replenishment, they can be mobilized. How this is done is another question. A third of the army is a huge loss. , it's hard to say. I don't even want to think that our leadership will agree to the "Korean scenario." This is disastrous for us in the future

[voyaka uh]

"A third of the army is a huge loss." ///
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The number of those killed in the Armed Forces of Ukraine has only recently exceeded one hundred thousand. For 15 months - 230 per day. A lot, but not catastrophic.

[dmi.pris1]

I'm not saying that half a million ALREADY died there. Read the comment above, I answered it.

[Legate]

Quote from: dmi.pris1

.I don't even want to think that our leadership will agree to the "Korean scenario".

Already agreed in Istanbul, but again deceived.
For a different scenario, completely different resources are needed. Much larger than would have been needed at the start of the operation.

[dmi.pris1]

So, let's take a real situation. The deal has been extended until May 18. For 60 days, instead of 120. The requirements of Russia must be met, and out of five, as far as I know. Let's wait and then we'll say whether it has been extended or not

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Legate

For a different scenario, completely different resources are needed. Much larger than would have been needed at the start of the operation.

Two years from now, another scenario will require completely different resources than the other scenario in this one...

[Alexander Salenko]

So you don’t have to think about it, where are the prerequisites for such thinking? The Zelensky regime itself will not allow such a scenario to develop, and in Russia it will be perceived as a defeat, which is dangerous for the authorities.

[Herman 4223]

Why only 500? The mobilization capacity of the country is usually about 000% of the population. There have been cases in history when it reached almost 10%.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Herman 4223

The mobilization capacity of the country is usually about 10% of the population. There have been cases in history when it reached almost 20%.

For example, Estonia in the Second World War put up about 300.000 against the Red Army

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Rumata

If you denazify 500 ukronats per day, then in order for the VFU to be unfit for combat, according to Clausewitz, you need to destroy at least 500, which is 000 days, or almost 1000 years.

Arithmetic is a reliable thing and will not let you down as long as the topic does not concern people.

Yevgeny Prigozhin announced the received combat order, according to which Wagner units are guaranteed the supply of ammunition in the required volumes. It was also promised to strengthen the flanks of the positions of the "orchestra" by units of the regular army. In Artemovsk, the "Wagnerites" were given complete freedom of action.

What is this? What 3 years? 10 years here... Prigozhin's cries were already there and they were flooded with ammunition, he breathed a little, then again they blocked the fender for him, then they threw it up again so that he would not fade .... Just grandfather Krylov in all his glory: "Swan, cancer and pike", all the actors in the NWO have their own interests. The people want to survive, and not die under the Western Herme, the oligarchs to cash in once again without falling under sanctions and transfer fit-miti to their Western accounts, officials also earn quite successfully on blood, passing brutal laws or even simply pushing them, while not adopting laws on dual citizenship and foreign property for government officials and deputies of the State Duma. But these are those who surrender Russia. Generals, then simply brand "defenders of the fatherland." One half has property and accounts in the West, the other has relatives, the children have dug in there and it is high time to drive them in the neck despite the "outstanding talents".

[Alexander Salenko]

No one will support Ukraine for either 10 or three years, they may not survive the next winter, although I think that everything will end even earlier, I have the same terrain, and therefore I don’t see any obstacles for a counterattack, we have exactly the same in the rear the same way to the word. In the Crimean offensive operation, the troops of the 4th Ukrainian Front passed to the approaches of Sevastopol from April 8 to April 16, 1944, and the 18th liberated Balaklava, in a week the Separate Primorskaya Army passed this way from Kerch.
I won’t say that they are not capable of a counterattack, but they obviously don’t want to, for obvious reasons, but the curators put pressure on them, because a picture is needed. And it is needed not only for the West, but also for Ukrainian society.

[coinsam]

with cards, a standard trouble.
It seems that the admins decided to develop the skills of imagination and insight in all more or less inquisitive readers by means of such formation of message texts in combination with illustrative material.

[Arkady007]

And what now and then to write a letter to Putin for each projectile and threaten to leave the next frontier?
Or maybe it's time to change something at the conservatory (according to Zhvanetsky).

Conservatory, graduate school, fraud, scam, court, Siberia.
conservatory, private lessons, more private lessons, dentures, gold, furniture, court, Siberia.
conservatory, accompanist, trade college, head. production, caviar, crabs, currency, gold, court, Siberia.
Maybe something in the conservatory to fix?

[Strannik96]

No, it is necessary to correct something in the minds, not to believe everything that they write on the Internet. just a little, here's a link to it in the internet. And there you can write anything. Ours play it well with Prigogine. And Ukrainians can only live comfortably in the internet

[dementor873]

For the entire LBS line, we have only one hot spot - Bakhmut, and that's it! In this situation, they can throw meat there for a long time. The calculation is that, having superiority in offensive weapons, we will grind so much there that it will make it possible to attack in other sectors, or to knock out the offensive potential of the ukrov for the summer? Something is hard to believe.

[Alexander Salenko]

Those. Do they smoke bamboo in other places, in Avdeevka, Marinka, Ugledar and other places? In order not to write game, maybe it’s worth going and seeing?

[voyaka uh]

In the places you listed there is no progress - there is no result.
And in Artemovsk there is. Therefore, half of the articles are about Artemovsk.

[sabakina]

If the Armed Forces of Ukraine control (as they say) less than two square kilometers, what prevents ours from firing one salvo from Solntsepeka? ... Well, one salvo from two Solntsepeka? What are we ashamed of?

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: sabakina

one volley from two Sunspots? What are we ashamed of?

Two square kilometers is 400 football fields.
I'm afraid that even out of 22 Solntsepeks, everything will not be covered.

[Alexander Salenko]

Does Prigogine have them? I don't know. You enlighten me if you know. What I know is that we don’t have much of this type of equipment, one might say, piece weapons. You can still level with tulips, yet a killer argument both literally and figuratively, but does PMC Wagner have them?

[Alex_5]

After the complete capture of Artemovsk by the second wave, the Russian army must immediately consolidate, and the Wagners must go further to Chasov Yar. Tactics of the first and second waves.

[voyaka uh]

"Wagners go further to Chasov Yar" ///
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Someone to go already.
They need to go on vacation, replenishment, training of their recruits.
Akhmat won a rest for three months in the rear. They returned fresh and full of energy.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Alex_5

After the complete capture of Artemovsk by the second wave, the Russian army must immediately consolidate, and the Wagners must go further to Chasov Yar. Tactics of the first and second waves.

After the complete capture of Artemovsk, the Wagners need to rest and lick their wounds.
That is, if we still need them.

[Jsem_CZEKO68]

Jsem rád, že PMC "Wagner" zůstává!! Jsou to skvělí bojovníci!

[Jsem_CZEKO68]

Glad that PMC "Wagner" remains!! They are great fighters!

[Igor1915]

How is it possible that the required amount of ammunition was delivered in 1-2 days? Or what was Prigozhin's statement about