The NMD uses the Russian MT-LB armored personnel carrier with protection from tank tracks

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The NMD uses the Russian MT-LB armored personnel carrier with protection from tank tracks

The special operation of the RF Armed Forces in Ukraine has become a large-scale test for the Russian army of combat vehicles attached to it. Often, the fighters participating in the SVO carry out the modernization of equipment with their own hands or by the forces of front-line workshops, while using improvised materials.

The MT-LB armored personnel carriers, despite numerous advantages, such as high cross-country ability, low silhouette or ample opportunities for modernization, have a significant drawback in the form of weak armor. To eliminate it, the Russian military decided to take the initiative and improved the protection of the car using a makeshift method.



The networks feature frames of the improved MT-LB. He received improvised mounted armor in the form of tracks from tank T-72, which were welded to the turret, the upper part of the hull and formed the so-called "skirt" in the area of ​​the tracks.



Additionally, a coaxial 12,7 mm DShK machine gun was installed instead of the basic armament in the form of a 7,62 mm PKT. In this place, the roof was cut off so that the fighter could fire from the new weapons, being partially covered by armor. The firing position itself is slightly elevated, which probably allows it to work effectively when firing from a trench or lowland.
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  1. -19
    8 May 2023 12: 32
    Well, well done, such protection, probably, and "Utes" will not take.
    1. -17
      8 May 2023 12: 41
      Well done indeed. Probably better than in the Urals
      1. +16
        8 May 2023 13: 47
        What are we happy about? Because 12.7 mm is needed on the LBS in the reserved space and in sufficient quantities?
        Quote: Argon
        Probably better than in the Urals
        Hanging the Urals with tank armor - will a transport vehicle become even better?
        Someone once made fun of
        And now he happily claps his hands when he sees this. The manufacture is completely different, according to destination, techniques in artisanal / field conditions "from what was" - this is not a way out, but the misfortune of the Moscow Region!
        1. +1
          8 May 2023 18: 54
          "shushpanzers", after Putin's "army reform" .. epic. trust+0. went over the ears. and now 62ki and 64ki on the fronts. "successful reform".
      2. +4
        8 May 2023 21: 14
        MTLB is a lightly armored transporter whose tasks are to transport goods and sometimes people. Due to its weak armor, it has very low ground pressure, and it will ride on any muddy black soil. Roughly speaking, our fighters tried to make an infantry fighting vehicle from MTLB.
        I don’t even know how I feel about such an improvement.
  2. -13
    8 May 2023 12: 38
    Need for inventions is cunning! Well done! "Motolyga" will still fight!
    1. +22
      8 May 2023 12: 57
      This indicates a shortage of armored vehicles in the troops, both tracked and wheeled.
      1. +14
        8 May 2023 13: 15
        Speaks. It's clear. But the crew made the car for themselves (they want to live and perform combat missions), what's wrong with that? Or do you think they should have declared: "We won't fight on this, give us something new and modern!"?. Soldiers fight with what they have. And they fight well, and not from the couch complain that everything is bad.
        1. +4
          8 May 2023 14: 04
          Quote: Leshak
          Soldiers fight with what they have.

          Well done crew, MO, on the contrary, i.e. not good guys)))
        2. +3
          8 May 2023 14: 08
          Quote: Leshak
          Soldiers fight with what they have. And they fight well, and not from the couch complain that everything is bad.

          What an interesting thought! That is, do you think that on the front line fighters should fight with what they have? And what do you think, with what shameless eyes will these generals from the Moscow Region look into the eyes of mothers, and what will they say?
          Here the PMC quickly put the leadership of the Ministry of Defense into the framework, and our guys who have taken the oath should fight with what they have to?
          What the hell is a technique doing at the parade, which, ACCORDING TO ITS PURPOSE AND CHARACTERISTICS, SHOULD FIGHT?
          You probably write from a trench? Don't you know that those who are concerned about the fate of OUR SOLDIERS quit 30-40 years ago?
          * * *
          A disgrace ... This is akin to the situation when the Ilov pilots stuck a stick in the back, simulating the presence of a machine gun, but this did not help much.
          * * *
          Stop lulling "effective managers"! They are warmed by hundreds of millions of incomes ... And the country needs modern technology. And remember, we are not complaining, but we demand that the Supreme Commander not spare the rear rats who are unable to carry out his orders. And, if required, put in the management of those who are able to show the result in units of accounting for products ...
          1. +1
            8 May 2023 14: 28
            Quote: ROSS 42
            but we demand that the Supreme did not spare the rear rats, unable to carry out his orders.

            However, you broke up! laughing
            1. 0
              9 May 2023 22: 41
              Only tough measures, yes! There is no punishment, there is permission.
          2. +2
            8 May 2023 15: 28
            Quote: ROSS 42
            And what do you think, with what shameless eyes will these generals from the Moscow Region look into the eyes of mothers, and what will they say?

            Well yes, these generals from the MO will look with shameless eyes into the eyes of mothers And then? recourse Shame is not smoke, it won’t eat out your eyes, especially when it’s not there, but loot for not destroyed bridges and a railway in your pocket ... request Another question is that it is more profitable for them to dispose of Natsiks or their own. recourse The same squabbles with Prigogine are not out of nowhere. He does the job, and he has a spoke in the wheel, because it’s not ours, “he didn’t finish the academies.” But our blood is shed .... Shoigu bypasses the parade grounds full of armored vehicles, everything is OK with us, but in the bushes, which is necessary. request
      2. +1
        8 May 2023 14: 57
        Quote: RED_ICE
        This indicates a shortage of armored vehicles in the troops, both tracked and wheeled.

        Come on. This only says that the fighters are trying to increase the survivability of the means that they have in the state. What's bad about it? Now, even on tanks, the visors above the turret are welded with dynamic protection against Javelins, which does not provide 100% protection, but increases the chances of survival for equipment and crew.
  3. +21
    8 May 2023 12: 40
    It turns out that there are not enough tanks, if not a combat vehicle, but they are trying to book a tractor. There is nothing to admire here. Not a waste of inventions is cunning, not up to fat, I would live. Call our army naked and issue reservations with MTLB trucks as an achievement?
    1. -2
      8 May 2023 12: 48
      Judging by the comments above, the guard bots have already justified everything.
      1. +3
        8 May 2023 13: 05
        Quote from Nesvoy
        Judging by the comments above, the guard bots have already justified everything.

        Judge for yourself, dear? Of course, it is better to fight on the most modern technology, but if it is not enough, then the soldier's ingenuity comes to the rescue. By the way, during the Great Patriotic War, it happened that armor plates were hung on tractors. So, labels should not be hung just like that, earning stars on it.
        1. +3
          8 May 2023 13: 22
          Quote: South Ukrainian
          Judge for yourself, dear? Of course, it is better to fight on the most modern technology, but if it is not enough, then the soldier's ingenuity comes to the rescue.

          And if they are given the task of swimming across the river, there - cartridges, from there - the wounded?
          1. 0
            8 May 2023 14: 02
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            And if they are given the task of swimming across the river, there - cartridges, from there - the wounded?

            If the cardboard armor didn't save them sooner, they wouldn't swim anywhere. There is a double-edged sword here.
        2. +1
          8 May 2023 14: 22
          Quote: South Ukrainian
          By the way and during the Great Patriotic, used to armor plates were hung on tractors. So, labels should not be hung just like that, earning stars on it.

          You would have learned how to spell "The Great Patriotic War" ... So, in the Second World War, no one went to parades in limousines, did not send their children abroad for vacation. SPIEF in the UAE did not suit, and if someone was noticed in love for luxury, then the LPB department and representatives of other "control services" quickly made extra holes in the well-fed carcasses.
          It was not because of a good life that they did this in Stalingrad, and not in order to carefully erase the memory of the name of the hero city.
          Have we got boilers somewhere? I don’t understand at all how in defense our commanders allow the taking of prisoners (for example) ... A video with Russian soldiers who (apparently) ran out of ammunition, and the Nazi scum mocks them, is before my eyes ...
          * * *
          Not the case to engage in handicrafts in the war ...
          1. +1
            8 May 2023 22: 55
            Quote: ROSS 42
            if someone is noticed love of luxury, then the LPB department and representatives of other "control services" quickly made extra holes in the well-fed carcasses.

            Apparently Zhukov, with his 3 kilometers of fabrics in the country, was not well-fed ....
            Or the departments were shy ...
            Or they talked about the marshal - indiscriminately ..
            Basically your choice

            Quote: ROSS 42
            I don’t understand at all how our commanders allow the capture of prisoners in defense (for example)

            And how did our prisoners form in the defense in the Second World War?
            And now remember that, according to the Charter, 7 km of front are assigned to a division in defense, and you will be surprised to note that our current number of troops is roughly 300 assigned ... 000 km of front !!
            Not 300-500-700, but 210....
            It’s not just that it’s marked as in the Second World War (there wasn’t a solid one either) - there’s generally no front line, like in textbooks, in principle ...
    2. KCA
      +1
      8 May 2023 12: 49
      Just a tractor? The fact that MT-LB has a transport compartment for transporting goods or people, and there are a dozen or so modifications for various purposes, doesn’t bother you?
    3. 0
      8 May 2023 12: 57
      Bulletproof armor MTLB is not able to protect against fragments of large-caliber shells and from dshk and cliff bullets. Heavy machine guns are often used on ukroshahidmobiles as part of the DRG. A solid front line is not everywhere there, and the DRG has a lot of options to slip between the defenders and go to the rear. The tractor is not necessarily used as a tank, the fighters just want to survive if they get hit by artillery and have an advantage in the fight against the DShK in the jeep.
    4. +10
      8 May 2023 13: 24
      MTLB is a lightly armored tractor, not an infantry fighting vehicle. They sometimes use it as an ersatz armored personnel carrier, well, infantry and trucks are often transferred.
      The weight of the T-72 "goose" is about 1300 kg, was one enough for "modernization. And the weight of the motorcycle league is 9,5 tons. Will it retain its main trump card - mobility and cross-country ability? And such protection from tracks against PTS is purely psychological
      ..
      And, yes, I did not understand from the text the phrase about "a coaxial machine gun with a caliber of 12,7 mm." What is he paired with, I wonder?
  4. +3
    8 May 2023 12: 55
    You can understand the self-made warriors, in any case you want to live, and they make protection from what they have. They tested it, fired on a mock-up, it turned out, now they are doing it, well done. soldier
  5. +1
    8 May 2023 13: 02
    Yes, you Russians always surprise with your inventions. Just great guys!
  6. +8
    8 May 2023 13: 08
    And how they laughed at the Ukrainians that they weld grilles on all armored vehicles. And they themselves for 8 years !!! they couldn’t even do this, now the fighters are forced to sculpt anything themselves, right down to the logs! And is this 72% of new equipment? Maybe it’s time for the minister-firefighter to be imprisoned for discrediting everything?
    1. +2
      8 May 2023 13: 15
      You can’t put him in jail at all - he went to the taiga to rest with someone. "Own man" (c)
    2. +1
      8 May 2023 13: 27

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  7. 0
    8 May 2023 13: 21
    Photos are not very good. Why is there no photo of the result as a whole, but only individual pieces?
    which were welded to the tower

    Clearly not tracks are welded to the tower. On the left photo, by the way, they are not yet.
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    1. -2
      8 May 2023 13: 38
      Quote from Canon
      What dagger, what caliber? That's what you need to show along with the cart at the parades. And give the soldiers spears

      Yeah???
      Well then, the US Army, with its heavy machine gun and 110-year-old pistol, has not even grown to a spear yet ....
      wassat fool fool
  9. +2
    8 May 2023 13: 45
    The guys are great for sure.
    The car turned out to be successful, no one argues with that. But that's not why they exploit it. And by the fact that there is simply no more modern. And no need to say - the matalyga is so good that we don’t need another. VAZ 2106 was also a dream and a swallow, but time has passed
  10. -6
    8 May 2023 14: 14
    ROSS-
    A disgrace ... This is akin to the situation when the Ilov pilots stuck a stick in the back, simulating the presence of a machine gun, but this did not help much.

    So you recognize Ilyushin as an effective manager?
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    2. 0
      8 May 2023 14: 31
      Quote: Pavel57
      So you recognize Ilyushin as an effective manager?

      Do you have something against Ilyushin? Our wonderful aircraft designer. And they stuck a stick, because at the beginning of the war there was no suitable engine for an attack aircraft and the shooter simply overloaded the plane.
  11. +6
    8 May 2023 14: 22
    This is from the same "opera" as the armor on the doors of trucks, which was widely used back in Afghanistan. People get out as best they can.

    1. 0
      8 May 2023 22: 45
      Quote: Piramidon
      This is from the same "opera" as the armor on the doors of trucks, which was widely used back in Afghanistan. People get out as best they can.


      In Afghanistan, too, the Ministry of Emergency Situations ruled or "Curses of Aligarhi" ????
      Nooooo????
      And who was to blame then?
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  13. -5
    8 May 2023 15: 14
    A shame. Something else to blurt out. There is no technology at all. Tuvinian answer. Why is that. Where did the technieu DH go. Sold with Vovan.
  14. +3
    8 May 2023 15: 16
    The fire itself the position is slightly raised, which probably allows you to work effectively when shooting from a trench or lowland.
    fool fool Insanity grew stronger, although, sorry, the author could have a shell shock. request Have you tried digging a smaller trench? feel
  15. +2
    8 May 2023 15: 37
    I ridiculed khokhloshuspantsey. And now I'm going to laugh.
    about our shushpanzers.
    the appearance of such equipment is a disgrace to the RF Ministry of Defense.
    another 080808, having seen the T 62 of the 58th army, proposed to replace the tank turret, the turret from the BMP 3, and direct the resulting savings in weight to an additional increase in protection. And to introduce such equipment into the state of the SV to support motorized riflemen. And not like now a motorcycle league with a machine gun.
    The place of a motorcycle league in the army is the transportation of goods to the LBS, evacuation to the rear, and so on and so forth.
    MOTOLYGA IS A GAS 66 WITH A SMALL BOOKING!!!
    But not an armored personnel carrier
  16. +2
    8 May 2023 19: 17
    have a significant drawback in the form of weak booking
    An all-terrain vehicle for transporting goods and a tractor for towing artillery pieces are not intended for direct participation in combat. Therefore, booking MTLB is not its disadvantage. But all this improvisation once again emphasizes the lack of adequate serial military equipment.
  17. +1
    8 May 2023 19: 58
    Quote: South Ukrainian
    Quote: Pavel57
    So you recognize Ilyushin as an effective manager?

    Do you have something against Ilyushin? Our wonderful aircraft designer. And they stuck a stick, because at the beginning of the war there was no suitable engine for an attack aircraft and the shooter simply overloaded the plane.

    Ilyushin took off to fulfill the TK in terms of the speed of the shooter, and the military swallowed it.
  18. -1
    8 May 2023 21: 07
    Why did our leadership manage to make enemies of Russian Russians out of Ukrainian Russians?
    Like Turks in leadership.
  19. +2
    8 May 2023 21: 38
    To put the generals and the minister in this wunderwaffle and make a burst of fire from a dshk or a cliff, maybe then the army will receive protected equipment or at least factory-made screens in normal quantities, and not a couple of pieces for show to journalists. Just a shame.
  20. -1
    8 May 2023 22: 56
    Quote: Beregovyhok_1
    Bulletproof armor MTLB is not able to protect against fragments of large-caliber shells and from dshk and cliff bullets.

    AK with BZT 7,62 calmly flashes, with a perpendicular (90 o) hit.
  21. 0
    8 May 2023 23: 02
    They would call this modernization of the motorized league "Shoigu-70" for his fairy tales about 70% of new equipment in the troops.
    And in the first columns send on May 9 to Red Square, along with motorized leagues that came from the Far East for the marines.
    The country must know its "heroes" ....
  22. +1
    10 May 2023 07: 40
    Nothing changes. As always: some are outrageous as they can in order to complete a combat mission. Others count the profits.
    To whom to open a boutique, to whom to open a trench (c).