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Historian: Third World War II is being waged against Belarus and Russia

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Historian: Third World War II is being waged against Belarus and RussiaIn Vitebsk on November 28 - 29, an international scientific conference "The Patriotic War of 1812 in historical destinies and cultural heritage of the peoples of Russia and Europe ", dedicated to the 200th anniversary of Russia's victory in the Patriotic War of 1812.

The conference was organized by the Vitebsk branch of the Belarusian university "International University" MITSO ", the Vitebsk diocesan administration of the Belarusian Exarchate of the Russian Orthodox Church and the Vitebsk city public organization" Russian Cultural Center "Rus".

The conference was opened by the director of the MITSO University, Doctor of Historical Sciences, Professor Venyamin Kosmach. Victor Malashenko, Counselor of the Russian Embassy in Belarus, Head of the Representative Office of Rossotrudnichestvo in Belarus, Vice-Rector for International and Interregional Relations of the International Institute of Management named after the Holy Righteous Fyodor Ushakov from Archangelsk, Arkhangelsk historian of the Vitebsk Diocesan Administration Victor Atapin, sympathized and accompanied by the Vice-President of the Russian Federation addressed the participants of the conference. conference - Chairman of the Board of the Vitebsk "Russian Cultural Center" Rus "Igor Potapov.

More than 50 reports were included in the program of the conference, the authors of which presented scientific and educational organizations of Russia and Belarus. Officials did not participate in the event. On the first day of the conference, reports were heard, discussions were held on various aspects of the problems of World War 1812. On the second day (November 29), the results of the conference were summarized; a non-resident and foreign participants were offered an excursion around Vitebsk. By the beginning of the event a collection of the conference was published, which included the texts of the reports of the participants of the event.

“It should be noted that a characteristic feature of the last conference was a worthy rebuff to provocative attempts by some historians of Belarus to deprive the Belarusian people of the right to consider the war against the French invaders as a Patriotic War,” Igor Potapov told a REGNUM correspondent.

Speaking at the conference, the historian of the Vitebsk Diocesan Administration Viktor Atapin drew attention to the distribution of publications in Belarus, which state that not only the Patriotic War 1812 of the year, but also the Great Patriotic War are not for the Belarusians Domestic. This fact, according to the historian, speaks of the ongoing information war - the “Third Patriotic War”. Her goal, according to Atapin, is to "destroy, first in the memory of new generations, and then physically our Fatherland."

"One of the objectives of the conference was to uphold the historical truth against the next attempts not only to slander, but, ultimately, destroy the heroic history of our people," Potapov emphasized.

The topic of the statement of the historical truth about the domestic character of the 1812 war of the year was devoted to the reports and speeches of M.P. Sobolev, "Fatherland as a given and unshakable value of the Russian people", V.I. Karavkina "Patriotism as a factor of national identity in the national war of 1812," M.A. Chikindin, "Was the war of 1812 year domestic?", E.A. Andreeva "War of 1812 on Belarus: Domestic or civil," etc.

Participants of the event gave a high assessment to the large and informative report of the Director of MITSO, Doctor of Historical Sciences, Professor Venyamin Kosmach. The scientist analyzed a large amount of sources of the XIX, XX and early XXI centuries, gave a detailed description of the causes and significance of the World War 1812 of the year. Kosmach made an unequivocal conclusion: the events of 1812 of the year, both for the whole Russian Empire and in its western provinces - including the territory of the modern Republic of Belarus should be assessed precisely as the “Patriotic War of the Year 1812”.

“Napoleon in 1812 went to a foreign country as a conqueror, as an aggressor counting only on the force of the bayonet,” Kosmach said in his speech. “Each of the parties began the war with a kind of manifesto - addressing the army. What could Napoleon say? He could give an explanation of the war he had begun? He had nothing to say, and he resorted to almost mystical formulas: “Fate entails Russia; her destinies must be accomplished. "Is it not remarkable that Tsar Alexander I - the autocrat, the unlimited lord of the serfs' empire - countered with the words:“ Warriors! You defend the faith, fatherland, freedom! "

"The huge army of Napoleon, unprecedented on the scale of that time, invading the country far from her, was an army of violence, aggression and enslavement. She was advancing like a black, terrible cloud, ready to incinerate everything, to destroy everything. The people who rose to defend their land and the face of his army, and in the face of the peasants, who burned their huts and poor goods, so that the enemy would not get anything, and go to the partisans, and the warlords, who would lead a difficult defense against the superior forces of the conquerors - for all, for all of Russia this war la fair, folk, truly Patriotic War ", - Kosmac said.

As REGNUM news agency reported, speaking at the international scientific conference “War of 23 of the Year and Belarus” held on November 10 in Minsk, a number of historians from Belarus, Russia and Poland said that World War 1812 is not for the Belarusians. Prior to that, the term “Patriotic War of 1812 of the Year” was removed from the official historiography, and the meaning of the 1812 jubilee in every way was humiliated. It was only at the end of November that the authorities of Belarus independently organized a conference at the Belarusian State University, and with the participation of the French embassy held events in the area of ​​the crossing of Napoleon I's troops through Berezina. At the same time, representatives of the official Minsk pointedly ignored the term "World War 200 of the Year", preferring the "War 1812 of the Year" and "the events of 1812 of the Year on Belarusian Lands".

It should be noted that on November 24, high-ranking Belarusian officials took part in ceremonial events with wreaths laid over the memorial sign to Napoleon’s soldiers and their military honors. According to representatives of the government of Belarus, Napoleon’s army soldiers came to Belarus against their will, and their memory deserves perpetuation. Commenting on the events of November 24, the Ambassador of Belarus to France (headed by the Ministry of Culture of Belarus until November 16) Pavel Latushko said: "These tragic events unite the Belarusians with France and the French people. It is symbolic to use this historical date to understand that we should build a single European house".

Earlier, the international conference "Patriotic Wars of Holy Russia" was held in Brest on June 22. It was dedicated to the 200 anniversary of the Patriotic War 1812 of the year and the role of the Orthodox Church in all defensive wars of the Russian civilization. The conference participants sent a proposal to the leadership of the National Academy of Sciences of Belarus to return the notion “World War 1812 of the Year” to the curriculum - 26 July 2012 from the Institute of History of the National Academy of Sciences of Belarus received a negative answer, based on a distorted interpretation of the opinions of Russian historians - members of the International Napoleon Society The Institute of History of the National Academy of Sciences of Belarus came to the conclusion that the use of the term “World War 1812 of the Year” seems unfounded in the official Belarusian historiography.
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  1. YARY
    YARY 30 November 2012 15: 42
    +14
    members of the International Napoleonic society. The Institute of History of the National Academy of Sciences of Belarus came to the conclusion that the use of the term "Patriotic War of 1812" appears to be unfounded in the official Belarusian historiography.

    A "BATKA" WHERE IS LOOKING ??????
    1. Algerd
      Algerd 30 November 2012 19: 12
      -4
      Why is Father here? in Belarus, the term "domestic" is not used. But actually what is it domestic for Belarusians? another civilian was .. in my opinion everything is correct.
      The Vitebsk Diocesan Administration of the Belarusian Exarchate of the Russian Orthodox Church and the Vitebsk city public organization "Russian Cultural Center" Rus "- all is well, of course, but I can't tell the Academy of Sciences what is true and what actually means right or wrong?
      1. timurpl
        timurpl 30 November 2012 19: 29
        +7
        Quote: Algerd
        another civilian was ..

        civilian, when brother to brother ...- since when did Belarusians Fritz and frogmen become brothers? Brains turn on the guy!
        1. topitop
          topitop 1 December 2012 01: 49
          -1
          There were many Belarusians in Napoleon’s troops,

          so to some extent it was a civil war ...
          also the peasants had hopes associated with Napoleon, they hoped that, just as in Poland, he would abolish serfdom.
    2. predator.3
      predator.3 30 November 2012 21: 13
      0
      A criminal case has been opened against the general and colonel — commanders in one of the missile divisions of the Russian Ministry of Defense — upon transfer of more than 4 million rubles. budgetary funds of a commercial organization for actually not completed work, the Chief Military Prosecutor’s Office said on Friday.

      “Prosecutors have found that over the past years, the former and current commanders of this compound, Major General Oleg Antsirov and Colonel Eduard Stefantsov, as representatives of the customer, having signed the acts, accepted virtually unfulfilled work on the rehabilitation of the liquidated mine launchers in the Kaluga Region. Damage in the amount of 4,4 million rubles was caused to the state, ”the statement said.

      Criminal proceedings have been instituted against Antsifirov and Stefantsov under the article “abuse of office with serious consequences”, the maximum sanction for which is imprisonment for 10 years.

      Read on the Vedomosti website
      I just can’t understand one thing. Now we have that, private shops are also engaged in the restoration of missile mines, at the invitation of the divisions?
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 1 December 2012 01: 23
        +2
        Quote: predator.3
        I just can’t understand one thing. Now we have that, private shops are also engaged in the restoration of missile mines, at the invitation of the divisions?


        read carefully
        Quote: predator.3
        Reclamation work on abandoned mine launchers


        Reclamation of land plots at the locations of liquidated silo launchers of ICBMs includes the removal or disposal of waste remaining after liquidation, carrying out, if necessary, neutralization of contaminated plots, restoration of the natural landscape on the land plots of liquidated silo launchers of ICBMs.
        Money was allocated, fictitious contracts were concluded with certain companies, instead of the planned restoration work, soldiers were brought with shovels and the money was shared with interested parties

        Quote: predator.3
        over the past years, former and current commanders of this compound

        All this successfully flourished, apparently for more than one year until someone who was in the topic did not hit the prosecutor's office or even higher. Yes - aah, sorry, the Kozelsky division has always been an example, Karakaev, now the commander of the Strategic Missile Forces, was a commander there, with him there were no frauds and thefts.
  2. Kaa
    Kaa 30 November 2012 15: 44
    +36
    It is not against Belarus and Russia that the Patriotic War is being waged, it is precisely homeless and international, designed to destroy the very concept of Fatherland throughout the world, replacing it with a "New World Order". This is the 4th world, or 1st globally informational, whatever you like. But for the peoples of Belarus, Russia and Ukraine, it should become Patriotic, so as not to turn into "common people who do not remember kinship"!
    1. Lech e-mine
      Lech e-mine 30 November 2012 16: 06
      +16
      And in RUSSIA and in BELARUS, some organizations are hidden from human eyes? systematically and persistently trying to replace concepts in OUR HISTORY.
      For Frogs, Napoleon is an Idol.
      For us, NAPOLEON is a destroyer that brought a lot of grief for blood and death.
      WE NEED TO REMEMBER EVERYTHING IN ORDER so that a NEW WAR will not go through us again.
      1. rolik
        rolik 30 November 2012 17: 36
        +7
        That is why a large role in the TRUE vision of the world and history of the Russian state should be played by the family and school. Break up your family, destroy the school. And we get a semblance of tolerant Europe with its fagots and other de..om.
        1. Algerd
          Algerd 30 November 2012 19: 14
          -2
          Have you ever been to Europe?
          Listen to you, so this is some kind of horror. where is more immoral society in Russia or Europe is a big question.
        2. NSG42
          NSG42 1 December 2012 09: 24
          0
          rolik,
          You're right !!! But this has already happened, and they do not want to see it, but everyone understands "where are we heading" and immediately wave it off and hum to ourselves "but let what be?" And woe to us and our country if we do not all stand up and defend against law-seekers and hypocrites (who are in power.
      2. Algerd
        Algerd 30 November 2012 19: 16
        -2
        you have to remember everything, but if you focus on some kind of tragedy of friendship, you will never be able to build with anyone. Or declare war on France?
    2. Rink
      Rink 30 November 2012 16: 57
      +16
      This war of Western civilization against the Slavic world (or the Catholic Church against Orthodoxy, if you will) never stopped. And the most interesting thing is that although aggression has been and always has been from the West, their successes over a thousand years are more than more than modest.

      Yes, they digested the puddles on the territory of Germany and the Wends along the Danube, and catholicized Poland, tearing it from the Orthodox Slavic world. But that's all. Till.

      But there is no need to relax, these continuous efforts of the West are still gradually undermining the strength and unity of the Russian world. Our strength has always been in unity. Why can't you say "I will win" or "I will win" in Russian? Because our ancestors always said "WE WILL WIN!"

      And even in the title of the article, only White and Great Russia are named. And Small ?! you might think this war is not being waged against Little Russia? Or did the author decide that Ukraine had already been defeated and destroyed? Although our situation is difficult, I think I wrote it off early. If the Slavic brothers do not leave the "wounded" to the mercy of the Western bandits, and help a little, then Little Russia has a chance to shake off these ghouls and return to the ranks.
      1. Rink
        Rink 30 November 2012 19: 11
        +2
        In general, you can’t wage the Patriotic War outside. против Russia, Belarus. If you think about wars "against" - aggressive. And the Patriotic War can only be waged "behind" their Fatherland. Therefore, the "Patriotic".

        The correct title would be "Russia and Belarus are waging the Third Patriotic War" or "A new war of conquest is being waged against Russia and Belarus."

        Somehow the historian wrote something wrong.
        Stupidity.
      2. Algerd
        Algerd 30 November 2012 19: 20
        -1
        and that Poland was Orthodox? lol aware that the Slavic countries are much more than you remember?
        What kind of lifebuoy is Orthodox? to remind how it was planted?
        White and Great Russia, Little Russia - it is not unfortunate, but this is an antiscientific understanding.
      3. arduan
        arduan 30 November 2012 19: 22
        +2
        Quote: Skating rink
        This war of Western civilization against the Slavic world

        I agree with you absolutely. History does not teach us anything.
        The words "divide et impera", many have hardly heard. Everyone has heard the words "divide and rule". This policy was not invented yesterday or even in the century before last, but it still works great. First, they drew borders across the USSR, now they dream of drawing borders along its fragments. Then again, and again ... Until the patchwork quilt, back to princely Russia. Everyone remembers how this Russia ended. We laugh at the Balts with their dwarf armies, and on some resources the issue of separating Siberia and the Urals from the rest of Russia is seriously discussed. We are on the right path, comrades!
  3. homosum20
    homosum20 30 November 2012 16: 06
    -6
    Belarusians understood a lot right after separation from Russia. When for zilov and gazikov spare parts ran out. The fleet immediately halved. Belarus put diesel on the remaining tractors. Fuel has doubled in price. Finished by their recent crash of a bunny.
    Unlike Ukrainians, Belarusians are smart people and learn quickly.
    1. alexng
      alexng 30 November 2012 16: 11
      +13
      Unlike Ukraine, Belarus is White Russia. And they never stirred up water against Russia and did not separate themselves from Russia.
      1. petro
        petro 30 November 2012 19: 22
        -5
        Well, it’s logic, if national interests are in the first place, it means “muddy” the waters against Russia. And what would you know then how Russia muddies the waters against others.
        1. Rink
          Rink 3 December 2012 14: 18
          0
          Quote: petro
          Well, it’s logic, if national interests are in the first place, this means “muddying” the waters against Russia. .....

          Yes, if Ukraine (or rather, Ukrainian government) defended the interests of its country! Then it would cause nothing but respect and understanding. But, unfortunately, Ukraine agrees at least to shoot herself if she finds out that this will make her neighbor worse. They (Ukrainian officials) that they will say over the phone over the sea-okiyan - they will run to do it and they don’t give a damn about how it will affect Ukraine itself. (They don’t live here, they have money in offshore and real estate abroad. But they always have time to get away, many have their own planes.)

          I know several cases when, according to the direct command of Yushchenko, Ukrainian enterprises terminated international contracts to the direct damage to themselves and the country's budget. And I even know where the bastard Yushchenko’s team came from. And anyone can guess himself the first time.
      2. kin
        kin 3 February 2013 15: 19
        0
        Poor You, unfortunately, know the scientific world of Belarus. Those people who are at the head of it (for the most part) are anti-Russian. Professor Kosmach (author of the article under discussion) is one of the few supporters of the unification of Belarus and Russia into a single state.
    2. 8 company
      8 company 30 November 2012 16: 31
      -3
      Quote: homosum20
      Belarusians understood a lot right after separation from Russia.


      Get rid of the logic. Does this mean that Belarusians have destroyed the Union?
      1. Algerd
        Algerd 30 November 2012 19: 26
        0
        it means that he has no brains, that's all. there is only a mania of greatness "after separation from Russia" - and in what year did it come together?
        The Soviet Union collapsed, there I road!
    3. ded
      ded 30 November 2012 17: 14
      +3
      Finished by their recent crash of a bunny.


      You are wrong! No one finished off. This is the normal state of the Belarusian economy and the result of economic policy you know who. This phenomenon occurs once every five to seven years and in my memory this robbery is repeated for the third time (maybe more). It all depends on the mentality of the people - Well, a Belarusian cannot live without someone robbing him! Poles, French, Germans - robbed, so why is the "favorite" leader worse?
      1. Oboz
        Oboz 30 November 2012 18: 40
        0
        They also rob us. Regularly. Capitalism. Necessary measure.
      2. Algerd
        Algerd 30 November 2012 19: 28
        0
        Russian forgot yet!
        "Well, a Belarusian cannot live without someone robbing him" - do not exaggerate, especially since the eyes saw what they took.
      3. botur2013
        botur2013 30 November 2012 21: 53
        -1
        The funniest thing is that Alexander Grigoryevich blamed ordinary people for everything. They say not ...... buy currency.
        1. Dima
          Dima 1 December 2012 01: 58
          +1
          The AHL generally forbade people to quit ... With unauthorized care, forced labor .. Like that ... Serfdom ..http: //news.tut.by/economics/322987.html
    4. petro
      petro 30 November 2012 19: 20
      0
      "When spare parts ran out for zilov and gas workers." And on account of the crash of the bunny, some of the crash was about 600% and with a default and nothing is alive, they also teach others. And if we compare Ukraine and Belarus, then Belarus still has to go through what Ukraine is now going through.
    5. ebrd
      ebrd 30 November 2012 19: 23
      +4
      In my election program of A. Lukashenko in 1994 there were two, in my opinion, very significant points: 1. giving the Russian language the status of state, 2. development of good neighborly relations with Russia until the creation of a union state. It was these election promises that brought Lukashenko a large percentage of the votes. The majority wanted fraternal relations with Russia and many did not like the nationalist rhetoric of Z. Poznyak. We really are essentially one people. And you are writing about some kind of zilas and gaziki,
      1. DimYang
        DimYang 30 November 2012 19: 46
        +4
        Quote: berd
        .We are really essentially one people. And you are writing about some kind of, zilas and gaziki,


        I totally agree. smile
      2. ded
        ded 30 November 2012 22: 19
        +5
        up to the creation of a union state.


        No! Not ALLIANCE state, and ONE state! The people turned on it. But in the end, the Belarusian Khanate was friendly to Russia. And the funny thing is that it is Luke today who is the most ardent opponent of creation ONE states - since then he will lose power and become the second Gorbachev! Russia has many times offered Belarus to become part of Russia - but Luka is against it. Since almost all Belarusian exports go to Russia, Putin suggested introducing Russian money on the territory of Belarus. But Luke is against - since you have to live within your means, and not as it is now - as much as I want money, I will print so much!
        1. DimYang
          DimYang 1 December 2012 14: 20
          +1
          This is also true. I’ll only add that he is the only obstacle on the way of creating a unified state. But now I myself would be uncomfortable in oligarchic Russia (where all the rabble in the form of Berl Lazarov and others like them “open the door with their feet in the Kremlin,” by the way, one Russian general (and not only he alone) that this rogue is a "drug lord." In New York, the FBI pinned his tail, he fled to Russia. And here is the "strangeness" not a word to a Russian speaker, they issued Russian citizenship in two weeks Moreover, he suddenly became the chief rabbi of Russia.In my opinion, as soon as Judaism in Russia is recognized as a misanthropic ideology, all its followers are enemies of man, then we will very quickly gather all the lands and our people together. All other problems will be overcome very quickly.
    6. Algerd
      Algerd 30 November 2012 19: 24
      0
      What kind of Russia has Belarus separated from? in 1991, it finished its existence in the USSR (the letter P means REPUBLIC)
      I am aware that the MAZ plant was located in Minsk and did not stand idle for a day and did not put a tractor on the tractor! lol
      learn materiel! some nonsense!
    7. Karish
      Karish 1 December 2012 20: 38
      +1
      Quote: homosum20
      Unlike Ukrainians, Belarusians are smart people and learn quickly.

      Yes, how. I don’t know if this is true, but Old Man’s methods are improving every day. After the crash of the bunny, more than a million went to Russia to earn money, so he found a more creative way
      President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko has ordered the urgent preparation of a decree prohibiting employees of woodworking enterprises in the process of modernization and reconstruction from leaving work before the end of these events.
      "An employee cannot quit this enterprise without the permission of the manager," Lukashenko said while visiting Borisovdrev OJSC, the largest state-owned specialized enterprise that is in the process of modernizing and implementing a multimillion-dollar investment project.
      “If they let him go, let him go, they won't let him go — he must work. For violations - to forced labor. If he quit - to forced labor, and work here, too,” Interfax quotes the Belarusian leader.

      Krasava laughing
  4. omsbon
    omsbon 30 November 2012 16: 27
    +7
    In my opinion, there can be no more fraternal people than Belarusians.
    And you shouldn’t pay much attention to any historical crap from all kinds of institutions. they only need it. To light up, to be noted so that the uncle Zabugorny does not forget later, but we will not forget!
    1. Algerd
      Algerd 30 November 2012 19: 32
      0
      "we won't forget!" What are we all about? or who? ))
      just about: the Vitebsk Diocesan Administration of the Belarusian Exarchate of the ROC and the Vitebsk City Public Organization "Russian Cultural Center" Rus "- also found authoritative offices for me! These are enemies of the Belarusian people, trying to impose their own vision of history, but we are in a state to figure it out ourselves. has long been conducting anti-state policy - all to the wall!
    2. valton
      valton 30 November 2012 20: 38
      +5
      And any historical crap from all kinds of institutions should not be paid much attention .................................... ............


      I think that just now and need to pay to this
      about historical crap
      Special attention. If now they are allowed to conduct such aggressive, paid propaganda, the next generation will grow up as "Judas" who do not remember history and kinship.
  5. anchonsha
    anchonsha 30 November 2012 16: 32
    +4
    Yes, apparently in Belarus the propaganda of the Poles and other gentlemen from Europe works well. even if the officials of Belarus, the Institute of History of the National Academy of Sciences of Belarus reject the term Patriotic War of 1812 to simply war with the French. If now they call the war of 1941-1945. just a war with Germany, then why do we need an allied state with Belarus if they spit on their own people who died for their motherland at the hands of the Germans.
    1. Algerd
      Algerd 30 November 2012 19: 35
      -1
      why do we need such an alliance that even the name of the union state cannot be learned! laughing
      and what was there for domestic Belarus? the next avnture of the Russians, into which we were also drawn. I am aware that the population of Belarus initially supported Napoleon, tk. under the "bratskіm" oppression to live out of mogot already? so my friend! hi
  6. Roomata
    Roomata 30 November 2012 16: 36
    -7
    but in Russia they probably don’t know which republics are nearby and who lives there
    1. sq
      sq 30 November 2012 16: 59
      +11
      Amendment: Not in Russia, in Moscow. And some even heard that beyond the Moscow Ring Road there is some kind of Rasea.
      1. Algerd
        Algerd 30 November 2012 19: 38
        0
        the statement of one such mask: "even if it sucks in the whole of Russia, then in Moscow everything will be OK anyway, so I don't care."
    2. Algerd
      Algerd 30 November 2012 19: 37
      0
      so i have. in 2008 he was in central Russia and there people (especially youth) consider that Minsk is the capital of Ukraine. what can I say, they’re the Krasnodar Territory with Krasnoyarskі confused! ((
  7. sprut
    sprut 30 November 2012 17: 07
    +5
    A war has always been waged against us and will be waged. This should not be surprising. You have to be strong and united in everything !!!!!
  8. sq
    sq 30 November 2012 17: 11
    0
    The war of 1812 can hardly be considered civil in Belarus, and the Patriotic War in my opinion too. There was no global confrontation in society. Someone wanted to go after Napoleon in the hope that he would give independence, someone fought for Russia, but most of them sat on their little puppies waiting for the war to end. An explosion of patriotism, similar to the Russian one, could not be for obvious reasons. Another thing is those who chose one of the parties went to the end.
    1. Algerd
      Algerd 30 November 2012 19: 40
      0
      +
      so i have. but here some people consider themselves experts on everything, including Belarus ’history and the right to give advice and make the same stupid statements.
  9. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 30 November 2012 17: 14
    +8
    Opinions at the conference were different. For example, the Patriotic War of 1812 is a landmark event in the history of the Belarusian people. This was a war not only against the enemy invasion, but also a war for their culture and faith, for the right to have their own Fatherland, for their historical development. “The general war of the peoples against Napoleon,” F. Engels wrote, “was a response of the national feeling that Napoleon trampled on the feet of all peoples” [1].
    The problem here also lies in the fact that the Napoleonic invasion for Belarus was at the same time a Polish invasion with the goal of restoring the power of the Polish panship on Belarusian lands. We should not forget that quite a bit of time passed when the Belarusian people freed themselves from the national and religious oppression of the Polish magnates. The entire XVIII century until the final division of the Commonwealth in 1795 was characterized by a fierce struggle of Belarusians against the Polish gentry. A major uprising of Belarusian peasants against Polish feudal lords took place in 1740 - 1744 in the Krichevsky headquarters belonging to the Polish prince Jerome Radzivil, one of the most disgusting oppressors of the Belarusian people. Only with the help of the royal troops, Jerome Radzivil managed to deal with the rebellious peasants. “Having caught many men by the ribs on a steep, others were outweighed by trees,” a contemporary noted [2].
    Despite the brutal suppression of peasant uprisings in Belarus, it was obvious that the process of reunification of Belarusians with the Russian people could not be stopped. Belarusians saw and understood perfectly that their main enemy was the Polish pan and Latin Jesuitism. The Jesuit missionaries themselves, seeing the failure of their policy among Belarusians, said in their hearts: “Rough and petrified people in a schema (Orthodoxy - auth.) People” [3]. Even after the first partition of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, that part of our people that remained in the power of the Polish government, in its petition addressed to Catherine II, expressed a soulful dream: “When the sun rises for us, when we will be joined to the faithful Russia, we will get rid of the yoke Polish! ” [4] From the historical point of view, the accession of Belarus to Russia at the end of the XNUMXth century, despite the feudal policy of tsarism, should be considered a progressive event that eliminated the threat of the denationalization of the Belarusian people.
    Thus, the Patriotic War of 1812 against the Napoleonic invasion was for the Belarusians at the same time a national liberation war against Polish aggression.

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    1. A_pa_Beer
      A_pa_Beer 30 November 2012 17: 50
      -5
      Do you know how they executed the rioting peasants in the Republic of Ingushetia?
      1. Oboz
        Oboz 30 November 2012 18: 47
        0
        And in Poland? How?
    2. Algerd
      Algerd 30 November 2012 19: 44
      0
      Radzіvіl was lіtіvіnskіm prince (Belarus). remember better about the Belarusian restoration in the 19th century, which you call Polish to hide your shame.
      what polish aggression yeshe ?! )))
      better tell me when Smolensk Russia will return to Rodina, voryugі ?!
  10. andrei332809
    andrei332809 30 November 2012 17: 36
    +5
    but who else doubts it? Well, dad does not want to go to the West, it means bad and despotic. recently watched on TV toli history, toli discovery. In short, they said that Napoleon's army had absorbed all European peoples (which is true). and it (the army) brought freedom and enlightenment to "Russian backward peasants." although it was disgusting, I watched it to the end. Well, it's complete nonsense. and how are they going to wage war with such "discoveries"?
    1. mda
      mda 30 November 2012 19: 00
      +4
      Quote: andrei332809
      roofing felts of history, roofing felts of discovery.

      these channels have long been controlled by Russophobia. Do not look at all nonsense.
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 30 November 2012 19: 16
        +2
        Quote: mda-a
        .Do not look any bullshit

        you need to know enemy tactics. and I like about space by discovery. or is it on the national geographic?
        1. mda
          mda 30 November 2012 19: 58
          +2
          Quote: andrei332809
          you need to know enemy tactics. and I like about space by discovery. or is it on the national geographic?

          I meant not to watch Russophobian programs, so it’s clear that they will discuss Russia.
          1. andrei332809
            andrei332809 30 November 2012 20: 12
            +2
            Quote: mda-a
            meant not to watch Russophobian programs

            I do not agree. I sometimes enjoy listening to the echo of matzah (humor-fame is resting). sometimes I watch the rain (there the tortilla is so trying to convince us of everything that is personally useful to her). so I think it’s useful to know what they think about us in detail (in general terms we already know)
            1. mda
              mda 1 December 2012 15: 26
              0
              Ok convinced
      2. Algerd
        Algerd 30 November 2012 19: 45
        0
        And the articles of this post are europhobic! all are afraid of each other! )))
  11. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 30 November 2012 17: 44
    +4
    and here are some more Pigeons of the World. Faithful followers of Napoleon’s cause (only on a global scale)
  12. A_pa_Beer
    A_pa_Beer 30 November 2012 17: 45
    -5
    we will not unite, the mysterious Slavic soul, when the neighbor is hated more than the enemy. Unfortunately.
    1. A_pa_Beer
      A_pa_Beer 30 November 2012 17: 51
      -2
      "unite", sorry
  13. wax
    wax 30 November 2012 17: 53
    -1
    They do not want, as they want, who is worse off from this? Himself (did not fight, then maneuver ...). For the Russians, the war of 1812 with Napoleon was Patriotic.
    1. Algerd
      Algerd 30 November 2012 19: 47
      -1
      Congratulations! )))
      here imeno and neher to go where it should not be! I also have a country of advice. we certainly are no worse.
  14. zz2003_1974
    zz2003_1974 30 November 2012 17: 59
    +4
    This is how the stsuki begin from far away, and always treated the Poles with distrust !!!! But I look at them like a chicken coop, they want to climb higher, but they shit on each other’s head !!! Well, nothing, as one famous character says - What is the strength of a brother? - In the money! No one has the truth. he has power !!! I am always with my brothers - Slavs !!!!!
    1. Algerd
      Algerd 30 November 2012 19: 48
      -1
      "I am always with my brothers - Slavs !!!!!" - with the Poles, i.e.! oh, you corrupt bastard!
      1. zz2003_1974
        zz2003_1974 30 November 2012 19: 53
        0
        You are a moron, and you did not study well at school, read it again and understand the meaning !!!!
  15. kush62
    kush62 30 November 2012 18: 46
    +5
    I HOPE WILL NOT BE AN INTERNATIONAL Hitler Society, AND TOGETHER WITH THEM, THEY WILL NOT BEGIN TO LAY WRITES IN THE BREST FORTRESS IN MEMORY OF THE Innocent Killed Gold
    1. petro
      petro 30 November 2012 19: 26
      -5
      I hope that it won't. And that there were such parades of "winners" in Brest, in 1939, one must not forget either.
  16. AK-74-1
    AK-74-1 30 November 2012 18: 57
    +3
    The war has been fought for many centuries. It is just that sometimes, as, for example, at the beginning of the 18th century, in 1812, 1914 or 1941, this war acquired a phase of "hot" armed conflict. There is no need to be mistaken. Either Russia will be strong and political prostitutes will sing to our tune, or we will be weak and the Japanese "burp" will indicate to us the health of our leader.
  17. AK-47
    AK-47 30 November 2012 19: 32
    -2
    Huge author minus!

    Firstly, why does the author talk about himself in the third person: "Napoleon in 1812 ... - Kosmach noted in his speech. ” "The participants in the event gave ... a report to the Director of MITSO, Doctor of Historical Sciences, Professor Venyamin Cosmach." "The scientist analyzed ..., gave a detailed description of the causes and ...". "Kosmach made an unambiguous conclusion: ... to evaluate exactly how ...".

    Secondly, we are talking about the international scientific conference "The Patriotic War of 1812 in the historical destinies and cultural heritage of the peoples of Russia and Europe." Events of this kind involve free discussion based on deep scientific research. The author, instead of appealing to historical facts, documents capable of proving his point of view and convincing the public, hangs on labels that disagree with his opinion: "... a worthy rebuff to the provocative attempts of a certain part of historians ...", "At the same time, representatives of official Minsk emphasized the term ...", "NAS of Belarus received a negative answer, reasoned by a distorted interpretation of the opinions of Russian historians ...".
    It is not worth the doctor of historical sciences to stoop to such arguments.
    I disagree with the author’s point of view, while I am an ardent opponent of official Minsk.
    1. kin
      kin 3 February 2013 15: 31
      0
      I can not agree with you:
      Firstly, in the scientific world it is customary to talk about oneself in the third person (rather than yak);
      secondly, Professor Kosmach very meticulously worked with archives and scientific literature of France, Germany, Russia, the USSR, Belarus (he knows what he writes not by hearsay).
      Kosmach’s opponents, for example, Professor Shved (Brest, Belarus) and others, are well aware of whom they are talking about. Therefore, the author of the article politely and correctly does not seal them with the mention of surnames (this was during the discussion at the conference itself).
      Fourth, this article is not an article by Kosmach himself - he is not published on this site (this is someone's presentation of the conference materials).
  18. taseka
    taseka 30 November 2012 19: 35
    +8
    The ugly snake of the west creeps into the house of the peoples of the Slavs of the Victors, spewing couples of lies about that liberation war for independence with its warm tongue - and whom it has already stung with its dollars and suspicious ideas! Wimps were blown away and slavishly crawled alongside like bastards and henchmen !!!! intertwined in hatred !!!
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 30 November 2012 19: 42
      +6
      Quote: taseka
      intertwined in hatred !!!

      hate must be able too. we (I hope in the majority) do not even hate the West, but somehow despise something. but they hate us. hatred from envy and powerlessness. but somehow I don’t envy homosexuals and don’t feel powerless as long as I have hands and, I hope (weak hope), brains
    2. v53993
      v53993 1 December 2012 00: 50
      0
      To us many who crawled. It just didn’t work out. And it will not work.

      To us many who crawled. It just didn’t work out. And it will not work.
  19. KAZAKHSTAN
    KAZAKHSTAN 30 November 2012 19: 38
    +4
    how can the Germans generally dictate anything to Russia ?! Alas, the lessons of the Second World War have not been learned, and now the same inhabitants of Europe, the United States and NATO are playing the role of fascists. What prevents them from refusing to go to kill Iraqis? Libyans? Syrians? Vietnamese? SENSE OF IMPUNITY OR SIMPLY LACK OF BRAINS AND WILL ?! After the third world, if God forbid it happens, we will clear a site called Europe, the United States and other territories from English-speaking bacterias !!! Done away with the west once and for all
  20. DimYang
    DimYang 30 November 2012 19: 51
    +1
    Well, about the war against us over the course of the past, some just got it. Better late (though not late) than never.
  21. Dzhanych
    Dzhanych 30 November 2012 19: 52
    +3
    Algerd,
    Quote: Algerd
    Negative rating
    Online
    Algerd BY Today, 19:45 ↑ new
    - 0 +
    And the articles of this post are europhobic! all are afraid of each other! )))


    Algerd! You are sick?
  22. v53993
    v53993 30 November 2012 22: 57
    +2
    An information war against the Slavs is certainly unpleasant, but it does not work for the Slavs. That is why the “elite” has psychosis, which has lost contact with Russia. The dog barks, and the Slavs go their own way. And woe to those who stand in their way.
  23. Serg_Y
    Serg_Y 30 November 2012 23: 43
    +2
    Glory to the Russian people, to celebrate 250 thousand with 640 thousand, it costs a lot, without understanding the Fatherland, it would not be possible. Your House must be defended "Whoever comes to us with a sword will die by the sword!"
  24. v53993
    v53993 1 December 2012 00: 08
    +2
    The main nuisance of a future war with the West is that you have to deal with pi ... mi. This is very unpleasant, even on the battlefield. One thing pleases that we clean this muck.
  25. topitop
    topitop 1 December 2012 00: 33
    +2
    all this is essentially trifles against the background of today's statement by Lukashenko - serfdom is returning to Belarus -

    Lukashenko demanded
    prohibit layoffs on
    woodworking
    enterprises

    published: November 30, 2012 at 13:52
    updated: November 30, 2012 at 13:57
    Vladimir Matveev, BelTA
    news.tut.by/economics/322987.html

    President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko
    demanded a ban on dismissal
    workers until the end of modernization
    woodworking companies
    concern "Bellesbumprom". Chapter
    of the state today, visiting JSC
    Borisovdrev, instructed to develop
    relevant draft decree passes
    BelTA correspondent.
    "Prepare the decree. Before the end
    modernization and reconstruction prohibited
    dismissal of workers. Employee cannot
    quit this enterprise without
    permission of the head ", - said
    Alexander Lukashenko
    "Let go - let him go, will not let go -
    must work. For violation - on
    forced labor. Working,
    specialist and manager. Ministry of Internal Affairs to bring. AND
    then we get to the point that tomorrow they will begin
    walk around Borisov and Minsk with a pitchfork and friend
    stabbing a friend instead of running into
    production and receive $ 1 thousand in 2015 ",
    - emphasized the Belarusian leader.
    "Therefore, categorically prohibit any
    dismissals from tomorrow - December 1 ", -
    demanded Alexander Lukashenko.
    The President also instructed to provide for
    the decree the possibility of making employees
    complaints to be authorized
    consider the governor of one or another
    region. "Because there are different cases.
    Makes the final decision
    the governor. But categorically,
    fundamentally an employee serving and
    the manager should not quit before
    completion of modernization ", - said
    Alexander Lukashenko
    "All the projects that we have outlined are
    a lot of money. They are 2-3 years old today
    mortified. The equipment is lying under
    a roof, "the head of state noted.
    "I quit my job - for forced labor, and
    work here too, - emphasized once again
    Alexander Lukashenko. - And your task
    (Directors of the enterprise. - Approx. BELTA) with
    every day to bring volume
    works ".
    The president also commissioned weekly
    gather headquarters meetings led by
    First Deputy Prime Minister Vladimir
    Semashko and the governor of the region where
    this or that
    woodworking enterprise: "And
    there they will solve all issues.
    Emergency decision but we otherwise
    we’ll do nothing. We will spend
    money and throw everything away. Peter
    Petrovich (Prokopovich. - Approx. BELTA),
    take control throughout
    woodworking ".
    The head of state noted that the ban on
    dismissal does not only apply to
    workers of the enterprise, but also to builders,
    who work on this site.
    "Failure to comply with your instructions must
    be excluded. Do not execute, leave
    them to work here ", - said Alexander
    Lukashenko addressing Vladimir
    Semashko.

    not all news - all text does not fit.
    here is a link to all the news -
    news.tut.by/economics/322987.html
    1. bart74
      bart74 1 December 2012 00: 51
      +1
      Well then. Excessive rigidity and restriction of rights is bad, but loose liberalism is generally criminal! As far as I understand, the Old Man wants to bring modernization to the end, and therefore prohibits people who have assumed certain obligations from quitting, and this applies to all workers and managers.
      1. topitop
        topitop 1 December 2012 01: 27
        +3
        it is interesting to know why this modernization has not been carried out in these previous 2-3 years?

        maybe the management of these plants did not work well?
        Or maybe because of the devaluation arranged by the government, massively QUALIFIED workers went to work in Russia? and in factories workers are working on Decree 18 — which they don’t care and cannot fire them.
        Or it’s just stupid, as it often happens, the wrong equipment was bought or there was no one to collect or money was allocated for the equipment, but there weren’t any adjustments and local hard workers are trying to start these machines themselves.

        The manager has obligations, the worker has at least these obligations (regarding modernization). In order for the worker to work, he should be given the task of a LITERATURE leader, not the majority of collective farmers who are in directors.

        And you did not notice the expression - "For violation - to forced labor", "Therefore, yes, discipline is tough, and it will be at all enterprises." - for some reason it resembles a gulag ...
        1. DimYang
          DimYang 1 December 2012 20: 45
          0
          Quote: topitop
          The manager has obligations, the worker has at least these obligations (regarding modernization). In order for the worker to work, he should be given the task of a LITERATURE leader, not the majority of collective farmers who are in directors.


          I support. Plus.
        2. sams
          sams 2 December 2012 01: 42
          0
          behind the word "modernization", the word "Jewishization" is hidden, under the guise of "Ukrainianization", under the full control of Turkmenistan.
    2. v53993
      v53993 1 December 2012 00: 52
      +4
      To us many who crawled. It just didn’t work out. And it will not work.
  26. boris.radevitch
    boris.radevitch 1 December 2012 04: 21
    0
    Show the enemy point-blank I do not see and I spat on all enemies with saliva right to them
    head-on!!!!!! bully
  27. Su24
    Su24 1 December 2012 08: 00
    0
    In fact, the Third World War is the Great Patriotic War, because The Second World War is considered the First World War.
  28. Spooky
    Spooky 1 December 2012 15: 05
    -1
    Many books about the war, for example, Foreign Legions of the Wehrmacht, 935 pages, printed in Minsk! Even more books about the Russian-Japanese war have also been printed in Minsk by the Harvest publishing house or something! The role of Russia there is completely different! And why does the former collective farm chairman remember three things in every TV interview: "vile" America, "cunning or crumbling" the European Union and his older brother ???????
    1. sams
      sams 2 December 2012 01: 32
      +2
      you would be silent in the duct dude
      ex-socialist
      (hi mossad)
  29. sams
    sams 2 December 2012 01: 29
    +1
    again did not read comments.
    In my opinion, I’ll say that they can’t take Belarus.
    Because of this hesitation .....