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Turkey develops its own aircraft carrier

Turkey intends to complete the development of its own aircraft carrier, on which he has been working for ten years.
As transfers AZE.az with reference to the Turkish media outlets, Turkey intends to complete the development of the domestic aircraft carrier.
It should be noted that the country has been engaged in the implementation of this task for ten years. It will take another five years to finalize the aircraft carrier. The ship will cost a half billion dollars.
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  1. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 30 November 2012 07: 40
    +4
    Turkey will have a big bargaining chip in the Black Sea, although much can change in the world in five years and Turkey will not be able to take aircraft carriers. The financial crisis and chaos in the Middle will turn Erdogan's Ottoman ambitions into dust hi
    1. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk 30 November 2012 07: 48
      +4
      laughing on the Black Sea, yes :) Let's hope that they will build a bigger trough for the Black Sea theater ... There will be a worthy floating target for the RRC "Moscow".
      1. crazyrom
        crazyrom 30 November 2012 15: 06
        0
        Turkey is developing its aircraft carrier! A designer has already been hired who imposed a clumsy 3D model in the photo of the Aminerin aircraft carrier!
    2. Retx
      Retx 30 November 2012 09: 57
      +14
      In the black sea? 24 thousand. ton aircraft carrier trump? yes forgive him the nearest airbase of Russia or Ukraine crucified ------ t to hell, forgive me for my French hi
      I'll add a joke, make amends for swearing
      At a disco in Germany, a Russian wearing a T-shirt with the inscription: "The Turks have three
      Problems".
      A Turk immediately approaches him and asks:
      - What are you doing? Looking for problems? Do you want to run over?
      - This is your first problem. Aggressiveness. You always try
      create problems from scratch.
      When the disco ends, the Russian group is already waiting for them
      Turks.
      - Now you will answer for your words! they say.
      - This is your second problem. You cannot solve your problems yourself and
      immediately collect yours for any reason.
      “How dare you talk to us like that ?!” - Turks snatched up knives ...
      “This is your third problem,” the Russian continues. - you always come
      with knives for a shootout.
    3. Ragnarek
      Ragnarek 30 November 2012 22: 57
      0
      so the black sea even shoots right through the shore
  2. mar.tira
    mar.tira 30 November 2012 07: 46
    +4
    The ambitions of the Turks are growing by leaps and bounds. And what is interesting is our nouveau riche, and tourists help them in this. For them, the politics and prestige of the country (Russia) do not count. BACKS !!!!!!!!!!! your body !!!!! That’s the count! And when you try to shame, they look like a madman!
  3. Trailer
    Trailer 30 November 2012 07: 47
    +2
    Even Turkey is developing its own aircraft carrier. One reassures: the Kurds, Syria, terrorism, which has taken root in the country, and the financial crisis. Have a good swim with this cargo!
  4. predator.3
    predator.3 30 November 2012 07: 58
    +5
    Turkey will be able to build such a large ship only under the condition of the dense technical support of some leading Western state (USA, France, Great Britain, partly Italy and Spain), which will take upon itself the development of the project and most of the affairs for its implementation. The same should be said about equipping an aircraft carrier with the necessary equipment and weapons, including aircraft.

    And here it is appropriate to ask the main question: why does Turkey need an aircraft-carrying ship, and how much will Ankara’s plans related to its appearance fit into NATO’s plans?

    Today, the alliance has worked out a stable scheme of interaction between its members with naval forces. Within the framework of joint operations, the main load is borne by the leaders of the block, who provide aircraft carriers and / or universal amphibious ships with the appropriate escort. The "junior" partners in most cases are assigned the role of extras, whose participation is reduced mainly to ensuring the actions of the main players and their support, if necessary.

    Under these conditions, one must definitely say: the Turkish aircraft carrier venture has no future without the support of the West, however, the chances for this, taking into account the specifics of Ankara’s policy, are minimal. And they are all the more reduced taking into account the fact that today Turkey objectively has no tasks for a ship of this class.

    To protect the republic’s maritime borders in the Mediterranean and Black Seas, an aircraft carrier is by no means required, and no one will allow the Turks to get an instrument for solving independent tasks that may run counter to the alliance’s plans.

    An example of what is happening with the new ship, for which "suddenly there are no tasks", is the fate of the Thai aircraft carrier "Chakri Narubet", which has actually turned into another tourist attraction for many years of standing "at the wall". Turkey is unlikely to be satisfied with such a result.

    www.centrasia.ru
    medal for comb, with the image of the Turkish fleet and the only inscription "BYL" 1770
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 30 November 2012 08: 11
      0
      Quote: predator.3
      Turkey will be able to build such a large ship only under the condition of the dense technical support of some leading Western state (USA, France, Great Britain, partly Italy and Spain), which will take upon itself the development of the project and most of the affairs for its implementation.

      I think you underestimate the Turkish military industry!
      Quote: predator.3
      The same should be said about equipping an aircraft carrier with the necessary equipment and weapons, including aircraft.


      Turkey plans to begin the construction of the first aircraft carrier, the project of which was developed over ten years. This was announced on November 29, 2012 by the Sabah newspaper.

      The issue of its construction will be discussed at the Winter Forum of the Turkish Armed Forces, which will open on November 30.

      Note that the length of the aircraft carrier will be 140 meters, weight about 24 thousand tons. The construction of the aircraft carrier will take five years and will cost one and a half billion dollars.

      On board the aircraft carrier, it will be possible to place 8 helicopters, 100 aircraft and 1000 people.
      http://www.korabli.eu/blogs/novosti/morskie-novosti/turciya-planiruet-postroit
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 30 November 2012 08: 13
        +3
        Quote: Yarbay

        I think you underestimate the Turkish military industry!

        Hi Alibek, it’s not about Turkish industry, but about the unpredictability of the financial and political situation in the world. All plans will go to the bottom at any moment, chaos is not in vain.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 30 November 2012 08: 21
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Hi Alibek, it’s not about Turkish industry, but about the unpredictability of the financial and political situation in the world. All plans will go to the bottom at any moment, chaos is not in vain.

          Hi Sanya !!
          Below I wrote the statements of the defense industry adviser Bayar, and he is not the last person!
          But my opinion is, if you do not make peace with Israel, then Turkey will build an aircraft carrier !!
          But I think they make peace!
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 30 November 2012 08: 30
            +1
            Quote: Yarbay
            But my opinion is, if you do not make peace with Israel, then Turkey will build an aircraft carrier !!
            But I think they make peace!

            Alibek, yes Turkey, in any case, will build it regardless of relations with Israel. They swelled a lot of money for 10 years in development, and then abandon the construction, things are not done. The question is what will be the reality of the world in the process of construction. The world will end amba to all projects laughing
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 30 November 2012 08: 35
              0
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Alibek, yes Turkey in any case will build it, regardless of relations with Israel. They swelled a lot of money for 10 years in development, and then abandon the construction, so things are not done

              Sanya, I don’t understand much why they write about it now!
              The fact is that no money was thrown into it !!
              So far, projects have been developed, if I’m not mistaken, two different enterprises!
              And only last year were projects transferred from potential to promising !!
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 30 November 2012 08: 45
                +1
                Quote: Yarbay
                Sanya, I don’t understand much why they write about it now

                Alibek, well, the situation in that region is explosive, games with weapons will not bring to good. So there will be more and more articles on Turkey. There is a direct clash of interests between Russia and Turkey and the United States.
                Quote: Yarbay
                The fact is that no money was thrown into it !!
                So far, projects have been developed, if I’m not mistaken, two different enterprises!
                And only last year, projects were transferred from potential to promising

                Well, it takes millions of dollars and hundreds of engineers of all levels to develop a project of this level, so this is a costly task. Zhenya Mechanic will come, ask him how much the project costs at least a corvette.
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 30 November 2012 09: 35
                  +1
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Well, it takes millions of dollars and hundreds of engineers of all levels to develop a project of this level, so this is a costly task. Zhenya Mechanic will come, ask him how much the project costs at least a corvette.

                  My opinion is that Sanya is talking, that is, Turkey will not build an aircraft carrier in the near future, especially since there is a third world war, there are more important projects in aviation and rocket science!
                  And so you are right !!
      2. urzul
        urzul 30 November 2012 10: 39
        0
        I think you underestimate the Turkish military industry!
        For them, the main problem will be the power plant, they themselves will not be able to build a reactor for an aircraft carrier, which means they will either contact France or the USA, or on a regular move.
        Note that the length of the aircraft carrier will be 140 meters, weight about 24 thousand tons. The construction of the aircraft carrier will take five years and will cost one and a half billion dollars.
        I understand the mass of the ship = mass displacement. But how then did they have 8 helicopters and 100 machines (as I understand aircraft) gathered to place on it, and even 1000 people.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 30 November 2012 10: 55
          +1
          Quote: urzul
          I understand the mass of the ship = mass displacement. But then how are they 8 helicopters and 100 cars (as I understand aircraft) gathered to place on it, and even 1000 people

          I, too, about that!
          All this information is very similar to a prepared provocation, the goal is incomprehensible!
          1. Sokol peruna
            Sokol peruna 30 November 2012 11: 34
            +1
            Note that the length of the aircraft carrier will be 140 meters, weight about 24 thousand tons. The construction of the aircraft carrier will take five years and will cost one and a half billion dollars.


            Strange some kind of performance characteristics. 140 meters and 24000 tons of displacement do not fit at all. With 24000 it should be about 230 meters long.

            On board the aircraft carrier, it will be possible to place 8 helicopters, 100 aircraft and 1000 people.

            On the way, the Turks do not want a "clean" light aircraft carrier, but something like the Spanish UDC Juan Carlos.
      3. PLO
        PLO 30 November 2012 12: 01
        +1
        Note that the length of the aircraft carrier will be 140 meters, weight about 24 thousand tons. The construction of the aircraft carrier will take five years and will cost one and a half billion dollars.
        On board the aircraft carrier, it will be possible to place 8 helicopters, 100 aircraft and 1000 people.


        only 8 helicopters, aircraft with a length of 140 meters there will clearly not be
        besides just 24000t this is some kind of UDC to get.
      4. baltika-18
        baltika-18 30 November 2012 16: 13
        0
        Quote: Yarbay
        The construction of the aircraft carrier will take five years and will cost one and a half billion dollars.

        Even if he builds, even if he spends a longer time, he is unlikely to be useful to them. An expensive toy.
  5. maksim
    maksim 30 November 2012 08: 05
    +2
    good luck to the Turks wink !, growing oranges they get better
  6. Yarbay
    Yarbay 30 November 2012 08: 08
    +2
    This follows from the speech of the adviser on the defense industry of Turkey Murad Bayar to reporters, the newspaper Jumhuriet writes.

    Noting that in recent years, the national defense industry has made significant achievements, the adviser noted above all the pace of military shipbuilding, which has reached a level that allows the creation of a fully Turkish aircraft carrier. Another thing, according to Bayar, is whether Turkey needs such a ship?
    The adviser recalled the ongoing implementation of a large-scale modernization project of the Turkish armed forces worth $ 20 billion and emphasized that 90% of the project is provided by weapons and equipment of national production. He stressed that today the Turkish company is on the list of 100 largest defense companies in the world.

    In total, the country's defense industry is working on 250 various projects, including the production of radars, tankers, tactical wheeled vehicles, landing and border boats, helicopters, air defense missiles, unmanned aerial vehicles and spacecraft, high-frequency offensive equipment, etc.
    http://www.turtsia.ru/Content/17965
  7. VadimSt
    VadimSt 30 November 2012 08: 17
    0
    And, the intentions arose 10 years ago. Looks like they were hoping for dominance in the Black Sea basin? It didn't work out - Russia, too quickly got out of the knockout. So, it would be better to raise the Black Sea Fleet to the required level, and the dreams of the "busurmans" are zvizdets, and the amers will not feel so at ease in the Black Sea when visiting their friends in the northern and eastern Black Sea regions.
    1. BRATISHKA
      BRATISHKA 30 November 2012 18: 51
      0
      Cheat? Where did Russia get out of nakaut too quickly? Do you watch TV? not vkurse how much money saved up from the defense industry? 20 years have passed, but they haven’t yet come out of a coma, much like a knockout
  8. snek
    snek 30 November 2012 08: 22
    0
    It is hard to believe that Turkey will pull a similar project. Is it that an aircraft carrier with aircraft with a vertical take-off and a bow, but then it will be a much weaker combat unit.
    1. BRATISHKA
      BRATISHKA 30 November 2012 18: 52
      0
      The Turks participate in the F-35 program, so in 5 years there will be 35 deliveries and at the same time there will be an aircraft carrier
  9. MilaPhone
    MilaPhone 30 November 2012 08: 23
    0
    I think America could also give Turkey some kind of old aircraft carrier for good behavior. But why is it needed in the Mediterranean and Black Seas, where even without the Turkish aircraft carrier Turkey is close to everyone.
  10. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 30 November 2012 08: 25
    +3
    Build your own aircraft carrier seems to be becoming a matter of prestige of the states. There will be many large and very small aircraft carriers. If seriously, the implementation of complex projects pushes science and industry to develop. Even if unfinished, something will develop along the way. The Chinese began with blast furnaces in the villages. The USSR began a lot from scratch.
    1. valokordin
      valokordin 30 November 2012 09: 22
      -2
      Well, if the Ottomans are built by aircraft carriers, then someone needs them, but why do we need nobody to threaten us, well, except Georgia and Latvia. We are behaving well: surrendered Karmal, Gaddafi and others, Assad's turn. We do not need large ships, sufficiently armed schooners.
  11. understudy
    understudy 30 November 2012 09: 17
    -2
    All my emotions can only be expressed with foul language! Turks! 10 years! They are designing !!! In five years, they will have a "big fig" in the direction of ... uh ... the nearest neighbors. Lyaya! And this is not even a question of defense capability, it is a matter of state prestige and a clear characteristic of the effectiveness of leadership.
  12. IRBIS
    IRBIS 30 November 2012 09: 56
    +6
    Today marks the anniversary of the Sinop battle, in which Admiral Nakhimov defeated the Turkish fleet. Sinop is one of the most outstanding victories of the Russian fleet. The Turkish fleet ceased to exist, like a fleet, after battles with Russia. Glory to Admiral Nakhimov!
    I congratulate the Turkish Navy on this our common holiday, because you also participated in this battle. You can drink the glory of Russian weapons and lower the wreaths into the water in memory of your ancestors, these drowned weapons ...
  13. Bugor
    Bugor 30 November 2012 10: 27
    0
    It seems that someone from the topic wrote that there should not be aircraft carriers in the Black Sea in principle. And that is why we have not an aircraft carrier, but an aircraft carrier cruiser. Or is it still the countries - owners of the coast is not concerned? Enlighten, please.
    1. Lissyara
      Lissyara 30 November 2012 12: 31
      +3
      Who cares:
      The right of passage of warships and merchant ships through the Black Sea straits of the Bosphorus, Sea of ​​Marmara and the Dardanelles is determined by the Convention of July 20, 1936. It is signed by all the Black Sea states, including the USSR, as well as by many European countries in Montreux (Switzerland) and regulates the legal regime of passage through the Black Sea straits .. In everyday life it is called the Montreux Convention. I will dwell specifically on the provisions of this Convention, since the Black Sea Straits are the most important and only exit for ships and vessels of our state from the Black Sea to the Mediterranean Sea and then through Gibraltar to the Atlantic, and through the Suez Canal to the Indian and Pacific Oceans.

      The question of the regime of navigation through the Black Sea straits of the Bosporus and Dardanelles is one of the long-standing international problems. The Black Sea powers have always sought to gain free access to the Mediterranean Sea for their ships and vessels, while the interests of Turkey, without which any agreement on the Black Sea Straits would have been impossible, should not be infringed. Non-Black Sea countries, for their part, sought permission to access their ships in the Black Sea.
      In peacetime, merchant ships enjoy complete freedom of passage and navigation in the Black Sea straits day and night, regardless of the flag of the state and the cargo carried, and without any formalities. Pilotage in the straits is optional. The Montreux Convention grants Turkey the right to levy a fee for each passing vessel to cover the costs of sanitary control, navigation barriers and the maintenance of the rescue service.

      The order of passage through the Black Sea straits of warships is regulated by articles 8-22 of the Convention. From appendix IV to the Convention on the regime of straits, it can be seen that ships of any class (i.e., aircraft carriers) can be in the fleets of the Black Sea states. At the time of passage of the straits, it is forbidden to perform flights of aircraft on board ships.
      Non-Black Sea countries are allowed to navigate through straits into the Black Sea only light surface ships and auxiliary vessels with a displacement of one ship of no more than 10000t. The total displacement of the squad of ships at the time of passage of the straits should not exceed 15000t. and their passage is permitted only in the daytime. Non-Black Sea states are not entitled to introduce aircraft carriers and submarines into the Black Sea. The total tonnage of the squadron of warships of non-Black Sea countries located in the Black Sea should not exceed 45000t.

      The time spent on the Black Sea by a detachment of warships of non-Black Sea countries should not exceed 21 day, regardless of the purpose of the parish. Turkish authorities should be notified through diplomatic channels of the passage of warships through the Black Sea straits, for non-Black Sea countries - in 15 days, for the Black Sea - usually in 8 days, but not less than three. The passage of foreign warships through the straits and during the war is regulated. If Turkey is a belligerent, the passage of ships depends entirely on the Turkish government.
      The Black Sea states are obliged annually as of January 1 and July 1 to inform the Turkish government of the total displacement of the ships of their fleet.

      The Montreux Convention was concluded in 1936 for 20 years and is automatically extended for the next 20 years, if two years before the expiration of the validity period there are no comments from the states that have signed it. The Montreux Convention continues to operate at the present time.

      According to a document circulated by the Novorossiysk information service, in 1980, about 20 ships passed through the straits, of which more than a third were under the flag of the USSR (according to Lloyd's data, in 000, 1967 ships passed through the straits, of which 11926 were Soviet. almost doubled!). According to Turkish data, in 2736, 12% of the 1977 warships passing through the Black Sea straits were Soviet.
  14. Yeraz
    Yeraz 30 November 2012 10: 29
    -2
    Good luck to Turkey !! There is technological development.
    In general, I think the aircraft carrier is not for the Black Sea. Rather, the Mediterranean Sea.
  15. gregor6549
    gregor6549 30 November 2012 10: 45
    +1
    Why Erdogan the Black Sea? His interest is completely different. Become a leading player in the game for control of oil transportation routes in the Middle East region (Strait of Hormuz, etc.). And this control, besides the USA and Iran, is already claimed by China. And what should Turkey catch in the Black Sea except for the shark of the katran and the goby goby? She is unlikely to trample on Russia. Not that weight category and it makes no sense. But the Greeks can deal with Cyprus and try. As regards the construction of an aircraft carrier, she, too, should not have any special problems, except for financial ones. Turkey is a NATO member, which means it has access to the market of military technologies and products of this unit, including those that are needed for an aircraft carrier (catapults, aerofinishers, fighters, AWACS and U aircraft, sensors and BIUS, air defense systems, etc.). And she herself knows how to do a lot of things. Well, when it gets stronger, it’s quite possible to try Russia’s tooth in alliance with the same Iran, especially since this tooth has grown in her a long time ago.
    1. Bugor
      Bugor 30 November 2012 13: 30
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      Quote: gregor6549
      glossy goby

      Glossa (flounder)
      the name used on the shores of the Black Sea, in the Crimea and in Odessa, to designate one small species of flounder (Pleuronectes flesus L.-P. luscus Pall.), caught in abundance in the Black Sea. feel
  16. nitrid
    nitrid 30 November 2012 13: 18
    0
    Taunted - The first Turkish aircraft carrier on which new Turkish tanks will be based somewhere in 2050
  17. Bugor
    Bugor 30 November 2012 13: 30
    0
    Lissyara
    Thanks for the clarification!

    Quote: gregor6549
    glossy goby

    Glossa (flounder)
    the name used on the shores of the Black Sea, in the Crimea and in Odessa, to designate one small species of flounder (Pleuronectes flesus L.-P. luscus Pall.), caught in abundance in the Black Sea. feel
    1. gregor6549
      gregor6549 30 November 2012 14: 18
      0
      I am forced to admit that I am not special in the fish of the Black Sea region, although I had to catch gobies and flounders near Ochakovo, and then they also languished under beer. It’s good to remember both the fishing process and the result
  18. CARBON
    CARBON 30 November 2012 13: 48
    +2
    If each trough carrying helicopters is called an aircraft carrier, then I can congratulate all of us soon the Russian fleet will begin to replenish with "strike aircraft carriers" of the Mistral class).
  19. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 30 November 2012 13: 56
    +2
    Turkey's support for separatists in the Caucasus is no secret. We also recall the Russian-Turkish wars. The geopolitical interest in Russia is obvious. The task of our political leadership is to switch Turkey to "southern affairs" and respond to the possible construction of an aircraft carrier by strengthening the Black Sea Fleet and Strategic Missile Forces.
  20. jagdpanzer
    jagdpanzer 30 November 2012 17: 34
    0
    it is necessary to revive our industry and as soon as possible, it’s good that we have nuclear weapons and would have come to us with democracy a long time ago
  21. Anthrax
    Anthrax 30 November 2012 19: 17
    0
    Something flashed on no and didn’t understand which aircraft carrier it was?
    There will be no aircraft on it.
    There will be 8 vert.
    This is a helicopter carrier.
    Let's also call Mistral and our BDK aircraft carriers
    1. gregor6549
      gregor6549 1 December 2012 05: 52
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      SW Anthrax,
      You are not quite right.
      Turkey decided to have a light aircraft carrier on which, along with helicopters, short-range landing take-off (UVVP) aircraft of the Harrier type can also be based. http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/naval-warfare/41355-turkish-navys-ambitious-mod
      ernization-process.html
      With the accumulation of experience, it is quite possible to acquire a full-fledged aircraft carrier. Buying it in another country or building it for Turkey doesn’t matter. It all depends on the ambitions of the Turkish leadership and its production and economic capabilities.
      As a rule, large ships in NATO countries are built on the basis of broad cooperation, while each country tries to load its own industry as much as possible, but minimize risks, without doing what it has neither the strength nor the knowledge to do.
  22. TAGIR
    TAGIR 1 December 2012 11: 14
    0
    8 helicopters and 100 cars ... The Turks will simply overtake Mercedes from Germany
  23. Spooky
    Spooky 1 December 2012 14: 05
    0
    Turks do not sleep, and muscles swing unnoticed, but with tenacity!
  24. gregor6549
    gregor6549 2 December 2012 15: 32
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    And more about the classification. And why, in fact, a vessel capable of being a floating airfield for helicopters and aircraft with air-borne airborne aircrafts cannot be classified as an aircraft carrier class, especially since helicopters, as I recall, still belong to aviation, and not to artillery, but to the Navy more aircraft appear that can vertically take off and land or dispense with catapults, while traditional aircraft carriers are used to transport marine corps to designated areas. And if, on the same Mistrals, to deploy, in addition to landing boats and helicopters, aircraft for various purposes (fighters, AWACS and U aircraft that can do without catapults, you can get a very good hybrid aircraft carrier with a landing dock. In extreme cases, you can use systems to take off aircraft an aerodrome-free launch similar to those developed for the MIG19 aircraft back in the 50 years, and you don’t need to invent anything other than an aerofinisher for landing