On denunciation, repression and the phenomenon of 1937

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On denunciation, repression and the phenomenon of 1937

Didn't get quiet story with a denunciation of a military doctor and popularizer of tactical medicine Yuri Yevich, who was complained about by some "vigilant citizens" who attended his lecture on Sakhalin, how did it become known that a certain lady in uniform wrote a denunciation of the former commander of the DPR militia, FSB colonel in the reserve Igor Strelkov (Girkin). Apparently, also for "discrediting the army." These are far from the only cases of writing slander of this type, they are widely known only for the reason that Yevich and Strelkov are quite well-known personalities.

At the same time, it is obvious that the military operation in Ukraine is not going well, to put it mildly, and it is obvious that someone is to blame for this. Hence the search for some "internal enemies", which, as recently rightly noted colleague Roman Skomorokhov, at the suggestion of the media, abstract liberals, bloggers, foreign agents, etc. are appointed, who, in fact, interfere with the course of the SVO. It is with them that it is proposed to “end”.



In this context, one can often hear the phrase “we need a new 1937” from indignant citizens, especially those who adhere to “leftist” views. At the same time, “1937” evokes different associations for different people, and those who call for a “repeat” often have a rather vague idea of ​​what really happened then. There are those who believe that the brutal repressions of 1937-1938 saved the USSR from "secret enemies" and even "strengthened the Red Army." At the same time, the main thing is overlooked - the actual representatives of the military and political leadership among the executed were only a few tens of thousands, while hundreds of thousands were executed during these years. That is, the overwhelming majority of victims of repression were ordinary Soviet citizens.

About the phenomenon of 1937, about why, instead of searching for the real culprits of the current situation, we see a completely different struggle with those who criticize the course of the NWO, we will talk in this material.

Whistleblowing and repression in 1937–1938


Prologue to the "Great Terror" of 1937-1938. events began after the assassination of S. M. Kirov on December 1, 1934, when the entire Soviet Union was actually placed in a state of emergency. In the winter of 1935, the arrests of former oppositionists and opponents of the Soviet regime began, show trials began, simultaneously with this party and state apparatus, a powerful propaganda campaign was launched, aimed at ensuring that the search and extermination of "enemies of the people" were considered the patriotic duty of every citizen. The repressions of 1937 were sanctioned at the highest level of the party and state [1].

Without going into historical details, it should be noted that a typical phenomenon of that time was a general denunciation. The denunciation letters of the "vigilant citizens" reflected their idea of ​​what kind of people should be destroyed or isolated. Everything that distinguished a person from the "worker-peasant mass" was considered as a sign of hostility. This also manifested itself during social events, meetings, conferences. Let's take a few concrete examples.

In September 1937, a city reporting and election conference of the Komsomol organization was held in Novosibirsk. Most of the meetings were devoted to an analysis of the subversive activities of former comrades who allegedly destroyed the normal work of the Komsomol organization. In the speech of one of the participants, the following arguments were cited as evidence of the hostile activities of the members of the city committee of the All-Union Leninist Young Communist League, Maryin and Titkov: “I have no data, facts, but it is felt that Titkov and Maryin are not our people. They felt secrecy when they were being watched, it was clear with what a sly and malicious smile they listened to the speeches of the leading workers of the region. [1].

As historians note, the chairmen of the collective farm audit commissions became frequent victims of denunciation, revealing the facts of the theft of financial or material resources by the collective farm leadership. In this case, the chairman of the collective farm, by his appeal to the NKVD, forestalled the appeal to the judicial-investigative bodies of the chairman of the audit commission. And ordinary collective farmers denounced their fellow villagers to the NKVD because of domestic conflicts, as well as their economic managers - collective farm chairmen, and especially often the foremen, their immediate production supervisors, who often punished them with fines for being late and absenteeism , marriage during sowing and harvesting, improper care of livestock, etc. [2].

Characteristic in this regard is the testimony of the former foreman of the collective farm. Schmidt of the Topchikhinsky district of A. Z. Koltovskikh, convicted on November 23, 1937 by a troika on charges of sabotage to a 10-year camp imprisonment. In his complaint to the Supreme Prosecutor of the USSR with a request for a review of the case, dated August 12, 1939, he wrote that he was arrested on the denunciation of two collective farmers who were repeatedly dismissed by the collective farm board as undisciplined [3].

At the end of 1937, at school No. 22 in Chelyabinsk, physical education teacher Korotkov was expelled from the candidates for membership of the CPSU (b) due to the arrest of his wife's parents by the NKVD and for "insincere admission of his mistakes", which, in fact, boiled down to one thing: Korotkov "did not tell who are the wife's parents. And the teacher of literature and the Russian language of the Chelyabinsk secondary school No. 1 named after F. Engels, G. I. Tsyrlina, was accused of not informing her husband [4].

There were also much more comical cases of suspicion and hypervigilance, such as, for example, what happened in 1935 at the Omsk Agricultural Institute. Komsomol member Ovchinnikov inadvertently told fellow students that he had a dream in which he ruled the country, and Zinoviev and Kamenev were his assistants. Fellow students, apparently recalling the methods of Freudian psychoanalysis, suspected that Ovchinnikov's insidious plans were reflected in such a "counter-revolutionary" dream. As a result, the vigilant comrades decided to expose him as an enemy of the people and expel him from the Komsomol [1].

Thus, it should be noted that denunciations were an integral part of the great repressions of 1937-1938, and these same repressions primarily affected ordinary citizens.

About modern denunciations and those who want to "repeat" 1937


Of course, speaking about today, we can state that at the moment there are no such large-scale repressions in Russia. However, the practice of denunciation, especially after the adoption of the law on discrediting the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, really blooms with new colors, and is somewhat reminiscent of 1937.

After all, in addition to the above-mentioned denunciations of Yevich and Strelkov, there are other cases of denunciations. For example, a woman publicly boasts that she is a “professional scammer” and her goal is to “create an atmosphere of fear” and “wean people from contacting foreign media agents.” There are also comic cases. Recently, a pensioner from the Moscow region wrote a slander to the police after seeing the colors of the flag of Ukraine on the schoolgirl's clothes.

“A 65-year-old resident of Podolsk wrote a denunciation, outraged by the choice of clothing made by a schoolgirl. The girl was walking down the street in blue and yellow clothes. An elderly man decided to contact the authorities as soon as he saw a girl returning from school No. 33 located on Teplichnaya Street. He called the police and soon several employees of the department arrived at the scene. It is known that at the time of the arrival of the security forces, the student had already left the educational institution, ”

- пишет Newspaper.Ru.

If you think in this way, then in this case, you should ban, for example, the Rostov football club, whose symbols also have yellow and blue colors. Most likely, this grandfather simply became a "victim of television." After all, they often talk about the need to revive SMERSH, to punish all the villains (again, abstract liberals and “enemies of the people”), that Stalinist repressions are needed, and about the ubiquitous agents of the West and Ukraine.

Why they demand repression on television is understandable - there it is necessary to redirect popular indignation in the right direction, to those who criticize the NWO. Moreover, unfortunately, in most cases, journalists on TV do not care what kind of criticism it is - patriotic or liberal-pro-Western, because both of them "discredit the army." They just follow instructions from above, do their job. But as for ordinary citizens who make such appeals, for the most part they do not quite understand that in which case repressions will affect them and those who criticize first of all. Therefore, as one proverb says, be afraid of your desires, they can be fulfilled.

As the course of the special military operation shows, personnel changes in Russia are really necessary, but so far not even a single general has been punished for making the wrong decision, and through whose fault both people and military equipment were lost. In the material "Key problems of SVO and ways to solve them”, I have already noted that the main problems of the military operation in Ukraine are incompetence and impunity. Since then, nothing has changed, no one has been held accountable.

Why? But because here we are faced with the principles of Lawrence Peter. Following them, almost any modern hierarchy is created not to eliminate incompetence, nor to identify and reward competence. Whatever goals she originally set, once the hierarchy is established, her own existence becomes her goal.

“Ordinary incompetence, as we have already seen, is not a reason for dismissal, it is only a barrier to promotion. Overcompetence often leads to dismissal because it undermines the hierarchy and thus violates the first commandment of any hierarchical system - the hierarchy must be preserved at all costs [5]”,

Peter writes.

That is, for a hierarchical system, an overly bright and overly competent employee is often more dangerous than a gray and incompetent one, since it is easier to control him. In fact, this is exactly what we are seeing at the moment. The power vertical believes that the main thing in the current conditions is the preservation of its stability, and all other factors are secondary. Therefore, the general, who made a mistake and lost people and equipment, remains in his place, since he is a “proven cadre” and loyal to the authorities, but a person who criticizes him risks being ostracized or jailed for discrediting.

What this will ultimately lead to and how productive such a policy is, at the moment it is difficult to say. But it can be stated that with such incompetent generals who do not learn from their mistakes and are not afraid to be punished, it is quite difficult to count on anything other than maintaining the current status quo. However, even this task is far from being as simple as it seems, and there are risks that the continuation of such a policy may lead to new sensitive defeats.

Использованная литература:
[1]. Isaev V. I. “To identify and destroy”: Siberian Komsomol members in search of “enemies of the people” / V. I. Isaev // ECO. All-Russian Economic Journal - Moscow, 2010, No. 3. - P. 157–172.
[2]. The Great Terror in the Altai Territory 1937–1938 Implementation of the order of the NKVD No. 00447: Collective monograph / N. N. Ablazhey, I. A. Gridunova, G. D. Zhdanova, A. A. Kolesnikov, N. V. Kudenko, V. N. Razgon, A. I. Savin , A. G. Teplyakov, M. Junge, E. R. Yusupova. Barnaul: Azbuka, 2014. - 255 p.
[3]. Complaint of A. Z. Koltovskikh to the Supreme Prosecutor of the USSR dated August 12, 1939 // OSD GAAK. F. R-2. Op. 7. D. 4127. L. 334–335.
[4]. Problems of the history of mass political repressions in the USSR. To the 70th Anniversary of the All-Union Population Census of 1939: Proceedings of the VI International Scientific Conference. – Krasnodar: Ecoinvest, 2010.
[5]. Peter L. D. The Peter Principle, or Why Things Always Go Wrong. / Aut. foreword R. Hall. - Ed .: Potpourri, 2003.
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  1. +26
    April 23 2023 06: 48
    The author, and what does Smersh and the repression of 37 have to do with it?
    And about the origins of the events of 37, read in particular the historian, who unfortunately died this year, Yuri Zhukov.
    1. -2
      April 24 2023 00: 14
      Quote: Andrey VOV
      The author, and what does Smersh and the repression of 37 have to do with it?
      And about the origins of the events of 37 years

      Apparently the threat of the return of Stalin's repressions in Putin's Russia is quite high. There were sad times in Russia under Ivan 3 and under Ivan the Terrible and under Paul 1, Nicholas 1, Alexander 3. It is already clear that a couple of ill-conceived decisions pushed through by the Putin vertical of power are already beginning to hit and very painfully on the policy pursued by Putin's team. For example, lower courts, which have neither the intelligence nor the competence to analyze historical documents and literary works, are empowered to prohibit everything that they consider unacceptable to themselves. For example, in the West, Goebbels' diaries are considered a document exposing Nazism and showing the perniciousness of Nazi politics, and in Russia, a petty stupid judicial official initiated a ban on their free circulation on the Internet. It is quite possible that this judge simply decided to loudly become famous, as Madame Timashuk and investigator Ryumin became famous in 1953. The public must be given the opportunity to comment and sharply criticize such stupid actions. Even in the US, the era of McCarthyism was stopped not by a system of state balances and the separation of powers, but by specific intellectuals who, unlike Eisenhower and deputies of the US Congress, had the courage to accuse Senator McCarthy of stupidity.
    2. +5
      April 24 2023 19: 59
      "SMERSH ..... repression"
      The author somewhat simplifies the situation. Discrediting military chatter should also be punished. Well, probably not 10 years without the right to correspond, but in a fair "proportion".
      Criticism should not satisfy the pride of omniscient critics, but be useful, i.e. constructive and non-populist.
      So the author interprets: they say, the generals are bad, they allowed it. I myself know individual generals and I can say that yes, there are those who are not good. Unfortunately, at all times in peacetime, mediocrity "convenient" for the bosses often got to high positions.
      But it is not known exactly what this or that military leader is guilty of. Should he be judged or did he do everything he could, but did not succeed for objective reasons?
      So much has already been explained that it should be clear even to a horse: the root cause of the failures of the NMD is not the generals at all, but a strategic miscalculation.
      They thought that the Bandera spirit was not so deeply rooted in dill, they say, as soon as our troops appear there, the conscious citizens will “throw their caps into the air” with joy and turn their bayonets against Zelya and his Western masters. They thought and came with a peacetime army many times smaller than necessary, shoved Ukrainians from Kyiv to Kherson with a ridiculously small army, took Mariupol, and then what? Where are the second echelons? So we had to retreat from the Kharkov region and ourselves go to the left bank of the Dnieper. What kind of "Bonoparty" will help here if mobilization instead of March-April began at the end of September, but there are no divisions of the frame. He dispersed the farts, but then again, he did, albeit stupidly, what he was told.
      So there are many guilty, from politicians and generals to contractors who went to serve for pensions and military mortgages, but "enemy voices" in everyday life "did not sign up" for the war. Everyone should get what they deserve. And to report subversive activities is also the duty of an honest person. But if without facts, "slander" was launched, then this is a denunciation, and criminal prosecution will not hurt for him either.
  2. +7
    April 23 2023 06: 53
    Well, if you go crazy, then the Liberal Democratic Party also uses blue and yellow in its symbols. And what, running to write a denunciation of them now ??? Accused of secret ties with the bloomers and support of the state colors of Ukraine?
    1. +8
      April 23 2023 07: 36
      L. Franz Nikolaevich (1875)
      Date of Birth: 1875, the
      Place of birth: Volyn province.
      Sex: man
      Nationality: Pole
      Education: illiterate
      Profession / place of work: collective farmer in the collective farm. Frunze
      Place of residence: Primorskaya region. *Khabarovsk region, Imansky district, with. Zvenigorodka
      Party membership: b / n
      Date of execution: April 28, 1938
      Place of death: Khabarovsk
      Preventive measure: arrested
      Date of arrest: February 22, 1938
      Conviction: March 13, 1938
      Condemning body: Troika under the NKVD
      Article: 58, paragraph 10
      Verdict: VMN.
      Date of rehabilitation: August 21, 1989
      Rehabilitating body: on the basis of the Decree of the PVS of the USSR
      Grounds for rehabilitation: on the basis of the Decree of the USSR PVS
      Archival file: File PU-4145
      Data sources: database "Victims of political terror in the USSR"; Database of Victims of Repressions in Primorsky Krai
      This is my grandfather. Article 58, paragraph 10 - anti-Soviet agitation. What could an illiterate 62-year-old old man in a remote Ussuri village on VMN agitate?
      1. +4
        April 23 2023 19: 02
        Why are you cheating? Your grandfather was a spy wink Japanese, as an option - you need to read the case.
        CRIMINAL CODE R.S.F.S.R. 1926 EDITIONS
        (with amendments and additions introduced by the Decrees of the Central Executive Committee of the USSR)

        58.10. Espionage, i.e. transfer, theft or collection for the purpose of transferring information, which by its content is a specially protected state secret, to foreign states, counter-revolutionary organizations or private individuals, -
        imprisonment with strict isolation for a term not less than three years, and in cases where espionage has caused or could have caused especially serious consequences for the interests of the state - execution.

        Transfer or collection for the purpose of transferring economic information that does not constitute a specially protected state secret in its content, but is not subject to disclosure by direct prohibition of the law or by order of the head of a department, institution and enterprise, for a fee or free of charge to organizations or persons specified in part 1 of this article,

        imprisonment with or without strict isolation for up to three years.

        Note. Information listed in a special list approved by the Council of People's Commissars of the Union of S.S.R. is considered a specially protected state secret. and published to the public.
        1. -1
          April 26 2023 01: 28
          Quote: hhurik
          Your grandfather was a spy

          Don't mislead people:
          [June 6, 1927 (CS No. 49, art. 330)]. 58-10. Propaganda or agitation containing a call to overthrow, undermine or weaken Soviet power or to commit individual counter-revolutionary crimes
  3. +14
    April 23 2023 07: 04
    Denunciations and informers were, are and will be. Always. This is the essence of human nature.
    More than two thousand years ago there was such a Judas Iscariot
    After which Judas went out[5] and betrayed him, giving him to the chief priests for 30 pieces of silver.

    Dumas père in 1844 wrote The Three Musketeers with the scammer Buonosier.

    So don't make a tragedy out of it...
    1. +5
      April 23 2023 22: 42
      Quote: Amateur
      So don't make a tragedy out of it...

      Right ! Old police officers know this saying - It's better to knock than to knock on the cells ... It worked very well when recruiting informants ... .. bully Sarcasm... hi
  4. -1
    April 23 2023 07: 12
    The article is illiterate, to claim that the murder of Kirov became the prologue of 1937 is complete ignorance.
    The repressions of 1937 massively affected the party nomenclature, speaking in Stalin's language - English and German spies, and they cannot forgive Stalin for this.
    As for denunciation, there is nothing shameful here, in the USSR during the period of developed socialism, every tenth citizen was not a full-time employee of the authorities, which speaks of the strength of the special services themselves of those years. In the army, the percentage of such employees was even higher, it just went off scale, who better than Girkin to know about it.
    1. +17
      April 23 2023 07: 31
      Quote: bober1982
      As for denunciation, there is nothing shameful here.

      Doubtful statement. Twenty years ago, a drunk was caught at work. They brought to the director, and he began to hand over everyone in a row, Who drinks in which corner, who sells moonshine, who hides it where. In general, the majority drank quietly. So the director, a very deeply respected person, immediately fired him, saying that we don’t need such a comrade who, after his own jambs, pulls everyone along with him. There was nothing for everyone else, no one rushed to look for the hidden moonshine in the corners, and to follow where Petrov dives, and where Sidorov laps there. Everyone already knew this, and they fired only the most presumptuous, who completely beguiled the coast. But our general did the last Chinese thing for everyone.
      1. +14
        April 23 2023 09: 39
        The director is a wise leader. I would have covered the entire network - in a week they would have drunk in other places, and the director would have been "bad". And so he kicked out the informer.
        Centerum censo Washingtonium delendam esse
        1. -8
          April 24 2023 00: 29
          Quote: Master2030
          The director is a wise leader. I would cover the entire network - in a week they would drink in other places,

          It's just that in the USSR there was a leveling. It is known that the entire industry of the USSR was supported by 0,5% of talented and intelligent employees, who often worked in low-level, unprestigious, hemorrhoids and low-paid positions. As an incentive, such people were not paid according to their work, but were allowed to drink at the workplace as an incentive. It's stupid to reward an employee for 10 years with the right to drink in the workplace, and then suddenly fire him for it. An offended employee may also quit for a disproportionate punishment. And then a year later the director will be accused of the collapse of production and expelled from his post and from the party. Therefore, it is easier for him to fire the informer. And if it is impossible to set his colleagues on him. At Aeroflot in the early 2000s, there was rampant drunkenness in the workplace. When they began to put things in order in the system and dismiss frank idiots from Aeroflot, one of the bosses, who received a warning about his imminent resignation and the advice to urgently look for a new job, initiated the dismissal of a group of employees who were seen in a frank brawl while drunk at work. In response, the higher authorities made a decision that in case of drunkenness, the aircraft technician will be fired from his superiors. Moreover, in the presence of a drunken aircraft engineer and his superiors, it was said that the aircraft engineer was irreplaceable and he could not be fired for any sins. On the other hand, petty bosses shouldn’t be particularly angry with him so that he doesn’t get drunk on purpose and provoke the dismissal of his superiors.
    2. +15
      April 23 2023 08: 49
      Quote: bober1982
      As for denunciation, there is nothing shameful here, in the USSR in the period of developed socialism,every tenth citizen was not a full-time employee of the authorities

      You just don't need to drive.
      1. -14
        April 23 2023 09: 29
        Quote: Stas157
        You just don't need to drive.

        You still, start bending your fingers.
        1. +8
          April 23 2023 10: 02
          Quote: bober1982
          You still, start bending your fingers.

          They don't fold up??

          Quote: bober1982
          The article is illiterate, to claim that the murder of Kirov became the prologue of 1937 - total ignorance.

          What do you think is the prologue of 1937?
          Why didn't they name it?
          Indeed, without this, your statement looks like a peremptory statement and just a vicious attack.
          1. -8
            April 23 2023 13: 24
            Quote: Stas157
            What do you think is the prologue of 1937?

            And, before the murder of Kirov - there were no mass repressions? Take a year, like this: 1918,1925,1928,1931, XNUMX, XNUMX, XNUMX, etc., was it quiet even without mass executions?
            1937 was invented by the unfinished Trotskyists and enemies of the people, a favorite topic of perestroika balabols (unfinished)
            1. -6
              April 24 2023 00: 40
              Quote: bober1982
              before the assassination of Kirov - there were no mass repressions?

              Until 1937, there were no mass repressions of high-ranking communists. They repressed either fellow travelers like Polikarpov, or kulaks, or the clergy, or descendants of the upper strata of society from the time of the tsar.
              1. 0
                April 24 2023 20: 15
                And mass executions always sooner or later end (or continue) with the executions of those who initiated this bloody bacchanalia. The French Jacobins will not let you lie. Terror is too much for those who draw up the execution lists, so if the flywheel has spun, the only way to appease the cannibals is to put them on the lists themselves.
    3. +15
      April 23 2023 08: 58
      As for denunciation, there is nothing shameful here, in the USSR during the period of developed socialism, every tenth citizen was not a full-time employee of the authorities

      I personally think that the roots of this phenomenon are somewhat different, and much deeper.

      Remember the old Soviet films - in them the thesis that a citizen cannot be indifferent, and even more so a communist, runs like a crowbar through the plot. If you see something that seems unfair or wrong to you, you simply have to intervene, you have no right to pass by. Otherwise, how will the people govern the Soviet state? And so - thought our leaders.

      I remember - there was such an episode when the Tu-2 was allowed into the series for the second time. And Stalin asked Tupolev why such a beautiful car was removed for the first time? To which he replied that by your own order, Comrade Stalin! To which Iosif Vissarionovich said that then Tupolev, as a Soviet person, if he felt he was right, simply had to complain about the decision of the Secretary General to the Central Committee.

      Liberals comment on this episode as yet another proof of the Leader's sadistic nature. Come on - complain about it!! And like - sign a sentence for yourself .. And I personally think - Comrade Stalin was extremely sincere .. The Soviet person has no right to allow harm to the Motherland due to someone's mistake, no matter what it costs him, regardless of the ranks of the wrong one .. It was this approach that Comrade Stalin tried to drum into everyone ..

      But alas - a person is not perfect .. And there were very few sincere communists, and just honest people. Here is a situation when the authorities tried to establish grassroots management and turn on ties with the people - and they took advantage of all sorts of muddy gimmicks .. With all the sad consequences. Even so, I cannot say that such a policy was wrong. Io it - directly followed from the Bolshevik paradigm of people's power. Yes - people, as always, let us down, but what can you do - you need to educate them .. Communists do not appear by themselves .. Communism - you still need to build. And on this long journey, mistakes are inevitable.

      As for the type of horrors of Bolshevism - well, let's remember how many people went to bed for religious reasons.. One witch hunt in Europe was worth something.. But this is just one small example! On this occasion, we do not call, say, to destroy Christianity? Why is there a different approach since 1937?

      In addition, there are strong doubts about the complete innocence of absolutely all types of victims of repression. Especially - when it came to the management of all ranks .. Although - it cannot be denied that there were a lot of excesses. What, in fact, Comrade Stalin understood, having managed to stop this destructive trend by the 40th year ..
      1. +6
        April 23 2023 10: 42
        You might think that until 38 Stalin was in complete control of the security forces. Like, he squinted, then scratched his head - and became ashamed. In fact, until he got Beria to the NKVD, he could do almost nothing in terms of repression. And he certainly was not their initiator. All he could, as a member of the Politburo, was to limit proposals for a purge from the seats. Cross someone off the list. What he did. And in the localities there was simply a struggle for power in view of the Constitution of 1936, where it was proposed to elect not only members of the CPSU (b). There was a local self-cleansing from competitors. And nothing could be done about it, because. and there were enough different factions and interests in the Politburo. There was no single guide!
        1. +14
          April 23 2023 23: 09
          In fact, until he spent Beria on the NKVD, he could do almost nothing in terms of repression.

          In fact, with the arrival of Beria to the leadership of the NKVD in the fall of 1938, the scale of repression fell sharply, they began to release those who had not been convicted and even released a certain number of those already convicted. The peak of repression was under Yezhov, not under Beria.
      2. -3
        April 23 2023 16: 32
        Quote: paul3390
        What, in fact, Comrade Stalin understood, having managed to stop this destructive trend by the 40th year ..

        Not by the 40th year, but by 22.06.1941/1940/22.06.1941, Stalin understood and stopped this most destructive trend, it must be more precisely expressed, by this very year (XNUMX) in the Russian Church, by the way, three hierarchs remained free - well, and then (XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX), brothers and sisters, Bagration and Kutuzov.
        All this understanding ended by 1948, then everything went on knurled - Trotskyists and bourgeois agents began to finish off with renewed vigor.
        1. +4
          April 24 2023 08: 24
          Quote: bober1982
          Not by the 40th year, but by 22.06.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX
          order 3526 of the NKVD was issued in November 1938




        2. -3
          April 28 2023 14: 46
          Quote: bober1982
          Not by the 40th year, but by 22.06.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX, Stalin understood and stopped this most destructive trend,

          A bit later. The communist idea is not able to explain to a widow who has lost her husband and children the meaning of her continued existence and console her. By and large, the communist ideology is powerless to console a childless pensioner. And the Orthodox Church, precisely in a hopeless situation, gives a person the strength to live and fight. Seeing the complete impotence of the state machine he created by October 1941, Stalin transferred this important function from the ideological department of the CPSU (b) and the NKVD to the hands of the patriarch.
      3. 0
        April 23 2023 23: 32
        It is a pity that you did not find those times! Oh what a pity! So I see a broken face, with broken teeth and a torn mouth, and a wild howl is heard: "... Tell Comrade Stalin that a terrible mistake has occurred!..."
        1. +1
          April 24 2023 00: 01
          You should have had your teeth knocked out much sooner. Moreover, in the case - as a clear liberal and enemy of the people. However, it's not evening yet.
      4. -5
        April 24 2023 00: 49
        Quote: paul3390
        Liberals comment on this episode as yet another proof of the Leader's sadistic nature.

        The only benefit of the repressions of 1937 is the understanding in the Soviet elite that an ideological active intervening in a field in which he is completely incompetent is more dangerous than an open or hidden enemy. That is why, soon after Stalin's death, higher education began to be required to occupy leadership positions. That is, the party began to shift the function of screening out unworthy candidates for leadership positions to schools and universities. Unfortunately, the police and the KGB did not know what to do with the blockheads screened out by the school and universities. Therefore, the school committees of the Komsomol and teachers were obliged to control the hooligans without expelling them from the school, not from the pioneers, nor from the Komsomol, and without restricting them in anything. And neither Komsomol activists nor teachers were given the power to rein in hooliganism.
  5. +18
    April 23 2023 07: 22

    The result of the denunciations, my grandfather, it was his fault that he was German, and allegedly ... And the reason, as usual, is smart, handsome, the grandmother, the first beauty of the village, chose him! True, they later admitted that the mistake came out ... They didn’t figure it out, but the plan was on fire! And how much of this, when elementary envy gave weapons to cattle, which by the way remained unpunished! By the way, in my village there are also a lot of people who want to, some people pee, but the cops are already used to it and don’t even show it. By the way, I put such people in their place geopolitically, they are afraid of me and blather at a distance! And in the service there was also enough of this, but as my first commander used to say ...., you work well lieutenant, they are afraid of you and respect you! The most terrible conclusion from our history is the following, God forbid, Sobchachki and Galkins will seize power ...., and the main one will follow the principle I am for democracy!
    1. +18
      April 23 2023 08: 54
      Quote: lithium17
      The most terrible conclusion from our history is the following, God forbid, dogs will seize power and galkins

      And now they're not?
      Remind me, where does the dog's mother work?
    2. 0
      18 September 2023 10: 28
      This is the whole motivation for denunciations - the wife is beautiful, the apartment is good, the salary is high... Now it’s the same. The famous actor put on a yellow jacket and blue jeans: “Ay, Russophobe!!!! Supports the Zelensky regime!”
  6. -19
    April 23 2023 07: 32
    All power to the Soviets!

    Quote: V. Biryukov
    The military operation in Ukraine is, to put it mildly, not entirely successful, and it is obvious that someone is to blame for this. Hence the search for some "internal enemies"

    Why not successful? We are advancing, the enemy is retreating. Contrary to all military science, the ratio of the dead is 1 to 7-8 in our favor. Do you want to change this ratio in the other direction?

    It is strange to think that all those who in the 90s were placed by the State Department in all leading positions in Russia suddenly disappeared somewhere. They still work for their owner. They like it and they do everything to serve him further. Is it possible to clear all power structures from them in one fell swoop? No, you can't - the country will fall apart.



    We have the HSE - a structure created by the State Department and forging personnel in its interests ...

    Quote: V. Biryukov
    ... the main problems of the military operation in Ukraine are incompetence and impunity. Nothing has changed since then...

    From January 14, 2023? Excuse me, did you graduate from the General Staff Academy? Or maybe they passed by? No? Then from what hangover should MO fulfill your wishes?

    In the course of the SVO, the leaders of the operation periodically change. For a year - three. Recently, the supreme commander came to the front line, brought a copy of the icon, according to him, the original belonged to the most successful military minister of tsarist Russia. Left it to three generals...
    In general, big changes are coming in the RF Ministry of Defense ...

    ps
    What is the difference between a denunciation and a report.
    Denunciation pursues personal interests. The report is the interests of the country. Denunciation is bad. The report is good.
    1. +7
      April 23 2023 07: 48
      Quote: Boris55
      Recently, the supreme commander came to the front line, brought a copy of the icon, according to him, the original belonged to the most successful military minister of tsarist Russia. Leaving it to three generals...

      And who was the most successful?
      1. -8
        April 23 2023 07: 53
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        And who was the most successful?

        According to Putin, the Minister of War of Russia in the second half of the XNUMXth century, Dmitry Alekseevich Milyutin. It didn't matter if it was or not. The message itself is important. An offer was made to three generals that cannot be refused - the position of Minister of Defense, Chief of the General Staff ...
        1. +17
          April 23 2023 08: 03
          Quote: Boris55
          Three generals were "thrown a bone" - the position of Minister of Defense, Chief of the General Staff ...

          For me, it would be better if he brought them textbooks on military affairs, and the icon, in my opinion, is a step back.
          1. +7
            April 24 2023 00: 36
            This is reminiscent of an episode of the Russo-Japanese war at the beginning of the last century. When a train arrived at the front, in which, instead of ammunition, icons were delivered for sale (not for distribution!) to the belligerents. The prices were different - from a quarter (for the lower ranks) and higher. How they helped and how the war with narrow-eyed "macaques" ended - everyone knows.
        2. +12
          April 23 2023 10: 00
          Fuck yourself - the most successful Minister of War! And why then did we barely win the Russian-Turkish war of 1877-1878 ?? And against whom - the Turks!

          In general, I must note that our adored guarantor always chooses very dubious role models for himself .. Which clearly affects the events taking place ..
          1. +11
            April 23 2023 10: 24
            Quote: paul3390
            Fuck yourself - the most successful Minister of War!

            Oddly enough, many historians call Count Milyutig the best Minister of War of the Russian Empire, although it is not very clear for what merits. That is, they, of course, are, but as for me there are even more punctures.
            Quote: paul3390
            In general, I must note that our adored guarantor always chooses very dubious role models for himself ..

            I would say - often
          2. -2
            April 23 2023 16: 29
            Well, Jesuitism! Barely, but won. And the Turks, were they satisfied that they almost won?
        3. +4
          April 23 2023 10: 44
          Quote: Boris55
          According to Putin, Russian Minister of War of the second half of the XNUMXth century, Dmitry Alekseevich Milyutin

          Ustinov was the best minister of defense ever to hold this position. It was Ustinov who saved the military industry during the Great Patriotic War and after the war raised it to its maximum heights, we still use weapons developed under him.
          1. -4
            April 23 2023 11: 53
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            For me, it would be better if he brought them military textbooks
            Quote: solzh
            Ustinov was the best minister of defense ever to hold this position.
            Quote: paul3390
            Fuck yourself - the most successful Minister of War!

            Do not be distracted by "beads", look at the essence. He could come on another day, bring another gift and give a different name - the essence of the proposal would remain the same. The chair under Shoigu and Gerasimov staggered. The cleansing of the Moscow Region from pro-Americans is in full swing. By the way. There are no more effective managers in the military-industrial complex.
            1. +7
              April 23 2023 12: 14
              Quote: Boris55
              The chair under Shoigu and Gerasimov staggered. The cleansing of the Moscow Region from pro-Americans is in full swing.

              Who are you now calling "American spies"? laughing
              1. +1
                April 24 2023 08: 16
                Quote: Adrey
                Who are you now calling "American spies"?

                Gerasimov. He sees Russia with boyars and serfs (a guard of honor for the "heir to the throne"), groveling before the West. Remember when Shoigu went to the Duma in the elections. What did Gerasimov do first? He met Milli in Finland and got the owner's approval... but it didn't work out. Do not become the RF Ministry of Defense ...

                Shoigu is an old sick man. It's time for him to retire. Here is a replacement for him and choose ...
                1. 0
                  April 24 2023 20: 24
                  Shoigu is a couple of years younger than his boss, by the way.
                2. -1
                  April 28 2023 14: 55
                  Quote: Boris55
                  Gerasimov. He sees Russia with boyars and serfs

                  Gerasimov in the war in Chechnya demonstrated the ability to make the right decisions even when the FSB slipped him disinformation concocted in Gelaev's intelligence unit. It’s just that the officers of the Russian General Staff are under such tight pressure from the FSB that even the chiefs of logistics are afraid to call on technical exhibitions and look at the drones, night vision devices and electronics brought by the Chinese to Russia.
          2. +2
            April 23 2023 21: 47
            The armed forces do not consist of weapons alone. Otherwise, Saudi Arabia would have the best army. Ustinov was a civilian, even though he was a marshal.
            1. 0
              April 24 2023 22: 55
              Bulganin was also a "civilian" marshal and minister.
          3. +3
            April 24 2023 05: 22
            This is not a kosher minister and he did not run with icons, so your example is unsuccessful ..
          4. -1
            April 24 2023 10: 31
            Quote: solzh
            Ustinov was the best minister of defense ever to hold this position.

            Minister of the Ground Forces, Air Force, Air Defense and Strategic Missile Forces. But the Navy Comrade Ustinov and adjoining him Amelko mutilated thoroughly.
    2. AAK
      -5
      April 23 2023 08: 30
      Already when denunciation flourished, it was precisely under the Bolsheviks ... under the "damned tsarist satraps" there was not even a hundredth of this, but as soon as the "people's power" came, it began ...
      1. AAK
        -9
        April 23 2023 10: 54
        judging by the number of minuses, now the "Memory Watch" in VO is already being carried by the grandchildren and great-grandchildren of the innocently injured Trotskyists-Zinovievites
      2. +6
        April 23 2023 22: 57
        Quote: AAK
        under the "damned royal satraps" there was not even a hundredth of this,

        And who could deliver there? Horseman Vaska against the master to the tsar? So the master will flog him in this very stable, so that in the future it will be disrespectful, and that's it. In addition, most of the writing is not skillful.
    3. +11
      April 23 2023 12: 11
      Quote: Boris55
      In the course of the SVO, the leaders of the operation periodically change. For a year - three. Recently, the supreme came to the front line, brought a copy of the icon, according to him, the original belonged to the most successful military minister of tsarist Russia. Left it to three generals...
      In general, big changes are coming in the RF Ministry of Defense ...

      Figase!!!... It has already come to the icons! belay
      The flyby of the LBS with the icon of Our Lady of Kazan is not planned yet!? recourse
      1. +3
        April 24 2023 00: 59
        If it is foreseen, then they will not advertise (at the same time, it is quite possible that they have already flown around, but it does not seem to have helped), otherwise all foreign media (primarily Ukrainian) will be ridiculed.
    4. +7
      April 23 2023 19: 56
      Quote: Boris55
      Why not successful? We are advancing, the enemy is retreating.
      Because it would be good if they won no more than 3 weeks from the start with minimal losses on both sides.
      1. +1
        April 23 2023 23: 00
        Quote: bk0010
        Because it would be good if they won no more than 3 weeks from the start with minimal losses on both sides.

        Rostov Airport at the beginning of the NWO was closed for a week, sort of.
        1. 0
          April 24 2023 01: 01
          Has it already been opened? Simferopol so far does not function.
          1. +3
            April 24 2023 06: 46
            Quote: Frank Muller
            Has it already been opened?

            I am writing that they closed for a week, but he has not plowed for the second year.
    5. +4
      April 24 2023 06: 16
      Quote: Boris55
      Why not successful? We are advancing, the enemy is retreating.

      It was at first, and then we began to essentially drape, i.e. retreat not according to plan! And now we are marking time, or whatever according to Prigozhin, we are advancing legally!
  7. +11
    April 23 2023 07: 38
    About denunciation today it is appropriate to compare either some kind of "1937", which was a hundred years ago during the period of the struggle for socialism, or with denunciations of some kind of XNUMXth century. under Anna Ioannovna laughing
    It is better to compare with the United States, in the image and likeness of which everything in the Russian Federation is arranged: from the state. institutions to fashion, like with the beginning of the 50s of the twentieth century. That's when everything will become clear, but for now only a new search for "a black cat in a black room." good
    1. +17
      April 23 2023 07: 48
      Everyone in the West knocks. They may tell you that you are raising a child incorrectly and the social service will come and take the child away. They may snitch that you don’t sort the garbage and throw it in the wrong container, etc.
      This is not an excuse for 37 years. Just a fact.
      1. +2
        April 24 2023 01: 01
        Quote: Nexcom
        Everyone in the West knocks. They may tell you that you are raising a child incorrectly and the social service will come and take the child away.

        I discussed this practice with familiar Afghans. According to them, Canadian teachers are better at suppressing the activities of international terrorism in Canada than the FSB is in Russia. I was told that a militant who killed more than 10 people in Afghanistan in Canada does not quarrel with anyone and does not even attempt to cross the street at a red light for fear that, by the decision of a teacher, children from his family will be taken away.
      2. +2
        April 24 2023 01: 04
        In the States, even worse, there is generally general denunciation (from snitching that a neighbor writes off during an exam to denunciations of improper parking). But, nevertheless, crime remains at one of the highest levels in the world.
        1. 0
          April 24 2023 22: 58
          It is said that in the USA cheating in exams is really condemned by most people.
    2. +5
      April 23 2023 10: 30
      Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
      It is better to compare with the United States, in the image and likeness of which everything in the Russian Federation is arranged: from the state. institutions to fashion, like with the beginning of the 50s of the twentieth century.

      Are you talking about Macartism?
      As for me, a little bit of this very thing would really not hurt us. But the problem is that for the most part everything that a respected author writes about does not exist in reality, but rather in the media. I mean... well, yes. They drove a certain one, Akhedzhakova was sent to retire, but ... most of this gop company left on their own. But in fact, it is not they who are dangerous, but those who remain.
  8. +7
    April 23 2023 07: 57
    Historians break spears, trying to understand the chain of events of 1937-1938. new documents pop up, confirmation of certain facts, or not confirmation. And the author figured out a few lines. About denunciations. They were before the NWO, we have one type, he wrote to his neighbors, hoping to get a piece of land. He wrote for two years. Roosters don’t sing in the town, they don’t keep them, because there is a violation of peace and quiet. And so that there would be peace and quiet, they write denunciations. Yes, the frogs stopped croaking in the spring, they, too, probably, “along the tundra, by rail” ..
    1. +12
      April 23 2023 08: 34
      Well, recently one of our employees was snitched that he was in contact and scientific work with scientists from unfriendly countries. We were forbidden to contact them officially. Only China and who is not on the lists of unfriendly countries. So it’s already somewhere close to the year 37 .... Maybe it’s right - you shouldn’t have business with the enemies of Russia. But the fact is that squealing is starting to flourish. And it is in the context of reprisals against unwanted people.

      They knocked on me that I work on foreign equipment - like I don’t support import substitution ... laughing Like a westerner. wassat And where can I get it, domestic research equipment then? If it doesn't exist, they don't produce it .... The same photoelectronic spectrometers, for example ... Or is it "more correct" not to work like shit, but like supporting "import substitution" and scratching your tongue? I work under Russian state contracts on this Western equipment. I work for Russia, not for the USA, although the device is Anglo-American ...
      1. +7
        April 23 2023 08: 49
        No matter how on this wave, a type of crime, extortion, has not developed. laughing In the wake of rising prices for everything, it is quite possible. laughing
        1. +8
          April 23 2023 08: 54
          You are absolutely right! They already tried to blackmail our boss in such a way that he would "share" the money from the project, otherwise we'll tell you where to go and collect signatures. They’ll sort it out, of course, but the sediment will remain ...
          There are enough bad guys. There were enough of them even at 37 - envy, crossed the road at work, the woman didn’t give the boss - she was immediately once and became Western agents. All this was. Do not deny and idealize ....
          1. +5
            April 23 2023 10: 00
            They’ll sort it out, of course, but the sediment will remain ...
            If, "like there", who understands, not in the share. Yes, you don’t need to idealize. But, you read, the humorous stories of A. Chekhov, A. Averchenko, M. Zoshchenko, these types of characters, I don’t mean the social position, and they sat, and there, and not there, and wrote denunciations, and these characters have remained and are now breeding and multiplying. Remember the words of the soldier Nekrasov from the film "Two Comrades Served": "We will feed the people, but in order to remake the brains, I'm afraid 10 years will not be enough ... here and 20 -ti may not be enough "(c) And now the following is happening, or rather, 30 years ago, but the foundation was." Soulless creatures. "Here, give them freedom, they will strangle each other, gnaw through." (c) xf "Kill the dragon"
            1. -6
              April 23 2023 11: 48
              With food, too, it turned out so-so, so
      2. +8
        April 23 2023 09: 07
        Lenin. Aesop? What did you tell them from Aesop?

        Watchmaker. I told them about that fox who reproached the lioness for the unfortunate lioness giving birth to one cub. And the lioness answered her: “But I give birth to a lion.” Aesop says it's not about quantity, it's about quality.

        Lenin. And what did they say to you?

        Watchmaker. The chairman of the meeting said that Aesop was a counter-revolutionary and an agent of the Entente, while I was Aesop's agent. And they kicked me out.

        Lenin, leaning over the table, begins to laugh. Dzerzhinsky laughs, the watchmaker himself laughs.
      3. +1
        April 23 2023 14: 39
        They knocked on me that I work on foreign equipment - like I don’t support import substitution ..
        This is where such unique ones are taken, why in our office everything is far from ideal, but for this?
        1. -1
          April 25 2023 00: 42
          Quote: Aviator_
          This is where such unique ones are taken, why in our office everything is far from ideal, but for this?

          A person cannot know everything. A colleague who started his career in the FSB and started it in the technical department very successfully worked with me. He retired from the authorities when they refused to give him a position that required a high officer rank until he agreed to become a career officer. However, frequency converters and three-phase voltage somehow put him into a stupor, and after getting to know them, he did not try to climb into this area.
  9. +2
    April 23 2023 08: 39
    Now some will again blame Stalin for this.
  10. +3
    April 23 2023 08: 39
    The 37th year has already turned into some kind of fetish. And anyone held accountable at that time is automatically considered an "innocent victim" It would be worth remembering that the "political trials" of the opposition of that time were open. Filming was made, foreign diplomats were present. No one doubted the fairness of the verdict. Was there a military conspiracy led by Tukhachevsky? Even the inveterate anti-Soviet and liberals admit through their teeth that they were. Against the backdrop of all these horrors, they forget that the percentage of acquittals at that time reached 15% compared to 0,1 today. Not a word about Beria's amnesties, but the innocent were released and reinstated. Others either interrupted the article or reduced the term. The myth about the repressions of the 37th was created entirely according to the precepts of Goebels - a lie repeated a thousand times becomes true.
    1. +4
      April 23 2023 08: 50
      And the Mingrel will never remember his positive moments. No, I don't justify it. Every stick has two ends.
      1. +6
        April 23 2023 10: 09
        I don't justify it

        And he - and does not need our excuses. For him, his deeds speak very clearly. For example - the nuclear project of the USSR. And I'm sure that one day Lavrenty Pavlovich's descendants will put up a fucking monument. Because it is only thanks to him, his talent, abilities and energy - we are all still alive and Russia still exists .. If they hadn’t made nuclear weapons in the shortest possible time - I’m even afraid to imagine what would become of us .. But this is only one aspect of his work.
        1. -1
          April 24 2023 01: 14
          If it were not for Beria, someone else would have brought the atomic project to the desired completion. Stalin himself did not forget for a moment the need to create nuclear weapons, but he knew how to demand and achieve. There are no irreplaceable people, there are irreplaceable ones.
    2. +1
      April 23 2023 14: 34
      No one doubted the fairness of the verdict. Was there a military conspiracy led by Tukhachevsky?
      Moreover, in Schellenberg's memoirs "Labyrinth", published in our country in 1990, it is directly written that there was a conspiracy of Tukhachevsky. And in general, when through the leadership of Czechoslovakia (Benesh or Masaryk, I don’t remember) Stalin was offered lists of conspirators, our representative asked "how much is the material", the amount was named within a million (or so) rubles. And it was paid in Soviet rubles. But the Germans could not use them - Schellenberg writes that when agents in the USSR were supplied with this money, they quickly failed, the numbers of the buy were rewritten.
      1. +1
        April 23 2023 23: 20
        the amount was named within a million (or so) rubles.

        To the surprise of the Germans, Stalin offered to pay for the documents. Heydrich asked for 3 million gold.
      2. -3
        April 24 2023 01: 10
        Quote: Aviator_
        Moreover, in Schellenberg's memoirs "Labyrinth", published in our country in 1990, it is directly written that there was a conspiracy of Tukhachevsky.

        There is a very interesting book "Operation Split" by Stephen Stewart. According to the author, from 1946 to 1953 Dulles, through his Polish agent, managed to make I.V. Stalin and the leadership of the MGB by their agents of influence. Dulles, through the hands of Stalin and the MGB, destroyed politicians objectionable to the United States in Eastern Europe and replaced them with more convenient figures. Khrushchev's speech at the 20th Congress on the cult of personality was a necessary measure to offset the damage that I.V. Stalin and the leadership of the MGB dealt a blow to the state apparatus in the socialist countries of Europe.
    3. 0
      April 23 2023 23: 15
      Not a word about Beria's amnesties, but the innocent were released and reinstated. Others either interrupted the article or reduced the term. The myth about the repressions of the 37th was created entirely according to the precepts of Goebels

      In 1937 Beria was not the head of the NKVD. Beria became them only in the autumn of 1938. And yes, indeed, in 1939 they began to slowly let go.
      1. -1
        April 24 2023 01: 24
        They began to let go after Yezhov was removed, and Voroshilov and Budyonny complained to Stalin: "If the war starts, then with whom will we fight? The regiments are commanded by yesterday's captains, and the divisions and corps by majors and lieutenant colonels." But the rink of repression was still rolling by inertia, slowly slowing down. Even Zhukov, heading to Moscow on a call in 1939 (he did not yet know that he would go to Khalkhin-Gol), fearing arrest, did not sleep all night on the way. But instead of NKVD agents, he was visited several times by a wagon conductor.
        1. +1
          April 24 2023 19: 46
          If you please, lie. The captains commanded the regiments not because they shot the majors and lieutenant colonels. New divisions were formed, and there were simply not enough competent military men. So it is argued that 56 thousand military men died in repressions. So, the dead and dismissed by age and for various reasons were shoved into this figure, for example, for drunkenness, various misconduct due to illness. Drunkenness was common at that time among the officers. Why hide it. I suspect that Blucher they knocked for the collapse of the Far Eastern army. The reason was drunkenness. In peacetime, some kind of commander threatened to cut off his ears, and what would he do in the war. Yes, and there was a Tukhachevsky conspiracy.
    4. -2
      April 25 2023 00: 51
      Quote: oleg Pesotsky
      It would be worth remembering that the "political trials" of the opposition of that time were open. Filming was made, foreign diplomats were present.

      I talked with a person who knew the Czech language and subscribed to Czech periodicals in 1967-1970. Then the window closed. He said that he did not believe in the complete collapse of Stalinism and totalitarianism in the USSR and Russia as a result of perestroika. He explained this by the fact that under Yeltsin and Gorbachev, all politicians from Makashov to Novodvorskaya were silent about the methods of breaking people's consciousness before Stalin's open trials. And to break the will of a person is simply enough to excite and calm his psyche alternately. For this, alternation of coffee (chocolate) with alcohol is suitable for most people. In Czechoslovakia, during the Prague Spring, this technique became the property of the general public (of course, at an amateurish level). In Russia, both Zyuganov and Yavlinsky keep the technology of manipulating consciousness a secret not only from the people, but also from their fellow party members. Apparently, everyone hopes to return to Stalin's methods after coming to power. Although science has come up with something new.
  11. +6
    April 23 2023 08: 45
    the main problems of the military operation in Ukraine are incompetence and impunity.

    But those who doubted the competence of the leaders of the operation should be punished.
  12. +5
    April 23 2023 09: 09
    Very mixed conclusions. Is it a denunciation to report that a concert of some singer is banned because he scolds the army and collects money for the benefit of the Armed Forces of Ukraine? Or about a car service (cafe, etc.) where members of the NWO are not allowed to go? Or about the fact that "fighters against the regime" give lectures to students? Or that those who mercilessly criticize this state are playing in the state theater?
    1. +7
      April 23 2023 10: 31
      Or that those who mercilessly criticize this state are playing in the state theater?
      But when these people, blaming the USSR, called to crush the "reptiles" at the White House in 1993, received medals for this from the state, and then, suddenly, they began to bite the giver's hand? "You taught me to needs, I fell in love with sausage and sour cream "(c) What happened? Needs began to be curtailed and became more expensive, and then the state, the USSR was scolded for not allowing the needs to develop, and they blamed for this, and not for the lack of "freedom of creativity." And when they found fault, they were delighted with them. And they began to find fault with this state, everyone was in shock. laughing
      1. -1
        April 25 2023 00: 59
        Quote: parusnik
        But when these people, blaming the USSR, called for crushing the "bastards" at the White House in 1993, received medals for this from the state, and then, suddenly, they began to bite the giver's hand?

        It's just that the state does not clearly explain to people on what principles payers are credited. Putin kept aircraft designers in a black body for 20 years, and paid fabulous fees to football players for disastrous performances and film directors for unprofitable films from which viewers begin to spit just by watching an advertisement for this film. The most striking example is "Zuleikha ....". Khamatova simply does not understand what they want from her. Yesterday she denigrated everything Russian and Tatar and was in Putin's honor, and today she has ceased to receive her fees and her honor, although she remained the same as she was before.
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    3. -1
      April 28 2023 15: 09
      Quote: Reader
      Or that those who mercilessly criticize this state are playing in the state theater?

      This is exactly what is done in China. Recently, a very talented and hyped young artist in Japan was photographed in front of Yasukuni Shrine. Upon his return to the PRC, he learned that not a single organization was working with him anymore, not a single Chinese publication was writing about his roles in films anymore. About 20 years ago, in China, a popular host hosted a show like "Let's get married." Two young workers from a car factory played as grooms in the show. The presenter inadvertently commented on the guys' proposal to the girls to ride a bike together and have fun with the words: "I'd rather cry in the back seat of my fiancé's Mercedes." A few hours later, the presenter was expelled from work with a life ban on working in the media.
  13. +1
    April 23 2023 09: 33
    Another clumsy anti-Soviet pamphlet. The author replicates cheap balabols on the suction of a sorosyat to once again spit in the USSR. Isn't it because the NWO turned into a mixture of the Russo-Japanese War and the Finnish campaign of 1939/40 because we have been spoiling our history for 30 years.
    Centerum censo Washingtonium delendam esse
    1. +6
      April 23 2023 10: 05
      into a mixture of the Russo-Japanese War and the Finnish campaign of 1939/40
      The Finnish company ended after three months having achieved its goals and results. Accession of Finland was not the goal.
      1. -4
        April 24 2023 01: 18
        Quote: parusnik
        .The accession of Finland was not the goal.

        In the memoirs of the son of intelligence officer Yelisei Sinitsyn, there is a mention that Stalin started the Finnish war in order to reach the border of Sweden and be able to quickly occupy the Swedish iron ore deposits and deprive Germany of access to raw materials for the production of high-quality steel.
        1. 0
          April 24 2023 08: 24
          "There is a mention in the memoirs of the intelligence officer's son Yelisei Sinitsyn"
          Well, of course, the "son scout" knew everything about Stalin's plans laughing !
        2. 0
          April 24 2023 10: 41
          Quote: gsev
          In the memoirs of the son of intelligence officer Yelisei Sinitsyn, there is a mention that Stalin started the Finnish war in order to reach the border of Sweden and be able to quickly occupy the Swedish iron ore deposits and deprive Germany of access to raw materials for the production of high-quality steel.

          Great plan! Reliable as a Swiss watch! © smile
          As a result of its implementation, the USSR not only receives the same thing as in real life - that is, a very difficult to bypass embargo from the Allies and those who joined them (however, after Sweden we would have been shut down altogether). But at the same time it also receives sanctions from the Reich.
          1. 0
            April 25 2023 00: 57
            Quote: Alexey RA
            But at the same time it also receives sanctions from the Reich.

            The idea of ​​conquering Sweden with a north-south strike is great in itself. On the other hand, a similar course of events could give "Hitler's peace initiatives" in the spring-summer of 40 a new content.
          2. -1
            April 25 2023 01: 13
            Quote: Alexey RA
            As a result of its implementation, the USSR not only receives the same thing as in real life - that is, a very difficult embargo from the Allies and those who joined them

            Imagine the state of Germany in the spring of 1940. France is not defeated, Great Britain is developing a military industry, by 1943 Roosevelt must complete preparations for entering the war against Hitler. Where should poor Hitler go? He needs resources and the transfer of submarine warfare to the Atlantic. For the latter, it is necessary either to defeat France and get bases on the shores of the deep-water Bay of Biscay, or to capture Norway in order to be able to launch submarines immediately into deep water outside the range of British coastal-based naval aviation. That is, a war for Norway will be inevitable. If the Scandinavians were smarter, they would persuade Finland to allow the USSR to have bases and a transport corridor to the borders of Sweden. There would have been no occupation of Norway and Hitler would have fallen into zungzwang in the spring of 1940. And without Swedish ore, German industry would have failed in a year and a half.
  14. +5
    April 23 2023 10: 01
    An interesting point of view of the author. Or did he deliberately decide to "smooth" the material a little? laughing
    In this context, from outraged citizens, especially those who adhere to "Left" views, quite often you can hear the phrase “we need a new 1937”.

    As far as I understand, "leftist views" are for those who do not agree with the current policies and actions of the authorities at the moment. In the context of the new laws that have been released, reflecting the vector of the direction of state policy at the present time, the views of this given group of citizens (as well as many VO commentators laughing) should be considered as "far right", i.e. aimed at supporting the course of power and calling for even greater radicalism through the creation of SMERSH (from whom to create, no one thinks), and then, apparently, "triples" hi
    1. -1
      April 23 2023 10: 12
      And there are no contradictions here.
      Scratch a Russian "Marxist" and you'll find an Imperial.
      1. +5
        April 23 2023 10: 14
        Quote: Engineer
        And there are no contradictions here.
        Scratch a Russian "Marxist" and you'll find an Imperial.

        With orthodox fanatics now it’s generally difficult everywhererequest, but commodity-money relations flourish laughing
        1. +6
          April 23 2023 10: 18
          An orthodox fanatic on a topvar is only one-crazy Tatra. Oddly enough, she is closest to understanding what is happening.
          The rest are heretics, sectarians and just evil degenerates. Here they already explain that 37 is useful and correct
          1. +3
            April 23 2023 10: 24
            Quote: Engineer
            The rest are heretics, sectarians and just evil degenerates. Here they already explain that 37 is useful and correct

            Quote: Adrey
            but commodity-money relations flourish

            request hi
          2. +2
            April 23 2023 10: 37
            Quote: Engineer
            An orthodox fanatic on a topvar is only one-crazy Tatra.

            And where is she? Haven't seen in a while. By the way, quite sensible thoughts and conclusions occasionally slipped against the background of its slogans, which caused a certain cognitive dissonance and made us think about its essence and relationship laughing
            1. +1
              April 23 2023 10: 52
              Quote: Adrey
              And where is she? Haven't seen in a while

              I just hope none of the snitches get to the bottom of her.
            2. +2
              April 23 2023 23: 12
              Quote: Adrey
              And where is she? Haven't seen in a while.

              Banned for a while.
      2. 0
        April 23 2023 10: 18
        Scratch a Russian "Marxist" and you'll find an Imperial.
        Scratch an Imperial - you will find a Russian "Marxist". laughing
        1. -2
          April 23 2023 10: 54
          The law of unity of opposites, but without struggle. To start the struggle, the contradiction must be comprehended, and such an intellectual feat is beyond the capacity of the establishment.
      3. -1
        April 23 2023 17: 46
        And there are no contradictions here.
        Scratch a Russian "Marxist" and you'll find an Imperial.

        What, then, did these "impertsy" stab the empire in the back during WW1?
      4. 0
        April 28 2023 15: 16
        Quote: Engineer
        Scratch a Russian "Marxist" and you'll find an Imperial.

        The Bolsheviks, unlike the Eurocommunists, took power in their country. People who come to power always strive to expand and strengthen their state. Imperial ambitions quickly emerged in Poland, Romania, Hungary, Albania and Finland, although there are also leftists in power there. Even the European Baltic countries, Moldova, Ukraine have slid into hard Nazism. Under Hitler, there was no such persecution of the Russian language as in these countries after 1992.
    2. +4
      April 23 2023 10: 15
      the views of this given group of citizens (as well as many commentators on VO laughing) should be considered as "far-right"
      At the same time, this group believes that only Ukrainians have their brains altered, they do not. laughing hi
      1. +1
        April 23 2023 10: 27
        Quote: parusnik
        However, this group believes that brain, only the Ukrainians redid it, they don’t.

        There seem to be two answers "either, or"request
        1.
        Quote: parusnik
        They dont have.

        2.
        Quote: Adrey
        but commodity-money relations flourish
        1. +1
          April 23 2023 10: 35
          Without either, or ... "You taught me to needs, I fell in love with sausage and sour cream" (c) mf "The Cat and the Clown", still Soviet. Too bad they don't show a very prophetic , yesterday , about today .
          1. -2
            April 23 2023 11: 24
            Quote: parusnik
            "You taught me to needs, I fell in love with sausage and sour cream" (c)

            As they taught, so they will unlearn. Weighty justifications will be found and supported by legislation. "Less gingerbread, more stick" would also work.
            Quote: parusnik
            Without or, or...

            Without "good brains" it is not easy to achieve good commodity-money relations request
    3. -3
      April 24 2023 01: 35
      Quote: Adrey
      aimed at supporting the course of power and calling for even greater radicalism through the creation of SMERSH (from whom to create, no one thinks), well, then apparently the "triples"

      It is quite possible that the initiative to rehabilitate the Stalinist repressions and Ivan the Terrible comes from the leadership of the SBU and the CIA. At one time, Allen Dulles managed, through the hands of Stalin and the MGB generals, to eliminate politicians objectionable to the United States from the socialist countries of Eastern Europe and initiate persecution of cybernetics, chemistry, physics and biology in the USSR. Everyone knows the repressions against cyberneticists and geneticists, but the physicist Frenkel and the chemist Syrkin also suffered.
  15. +2
    April 23 2023 10: 58
    I completely agree with the author's statement of the question, however:
    There are those who believe that the brutal repressions of 1937-1938 saved the USSR from "secret enemies" and even "strengthened the Red Army." At the same time, the main thing is overlooked - the actual representatives of the military and political leadership among the executed were only a few tens of thousands, while hundreds of thousands were executed during these years
    Let's be correct: these figures refer to the entire period from the late 20s / early 30s. to 1953!
    1. -1
      April 23 2023 11: 14
      Let's be correct

      We will.
      37th year - sentenced to death 353
      38-328 618
      Data provided by Zemskov
      https://www.politpros.com/journal/read/?ID=783
      1. +2
        April 23 2023 11: 53
        Quote: Engineer
        We will.
        37th year - sentenced to death 353
        38-328 618

        And how many of them were commanders of the Red Army?
        It's about them...
        1. -2
          April 23 2023 12: 42
          And how many of them were commanders of the Red Army?
          It's about them

          To be exact, in the article
          actually representatives military and political leadership among the executed were only a few tens of thousands

          Sentenced military and political figures for the so-called. "Stalinist execution lists" in
          1937-1938 - 43 people
      2. -1
        April 24 2023 19: 22
        Quote: Engineer
        Let's be correct

        We will.
        37th year - sentenced to death 353
        38-328 618
        Data provided by Zemskov
        https://www.politpros.com/journal/read/?ID=783

        V.N. Zemskov writes:
        The document stated that, according to the data available in the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs, for the period from 1921 to the present, that is, until the beginning of 1954, 3 people were convicted of counter-revolutionary crimes by the Collegium of the OGPU, troikas of the NKVD, the Special Meeting, the Military Collegium, courts and military tribunals, including capital punishment - 642 (See: State Archive of the Russian Federation (GARF). F. 9401. Op. 2. D. 450).
        1. -1
          April 25 2023 11: 29
          Selective reading is everything.
          This is only on the 58th article.
          Zemskov explains this in such a way that even a Stalinist could understand
          At the end of 1953, another certificate was prepared at the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs. In it, on the basis of statistical reporting of the 1st special department of the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs, the number of those convicted of counter-revolutionary and other especially dangerous state crimes for the period from January 1, 1921 to July 1, 1953 was called 4 people

          And then a table by year, revealing this figure
          1. -1
            April 25 2023 19: 11
            Quote: Engineer
            Selective reading is everything.
            This is only on the 58th article.
            Zemskov explains this in such a way that even a Stalinist could understand
            At the end of 1953, another certificate was prepared at the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs. In it, on the basis of statistical reporting of the 1st special department of the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs, the number of those convicted of counter-revolutionary and other especially dangerous state crimes for the period from January 1, 1921 to July 1, 1953 was called 4 people

            And then a table by year, revealing this figure
            Yeah, selective (why didn’t you give the numbers?): The number of those sentenced to death for counter-revolutionary and other especially dangerous state crimes in 1921-1953 is 799 people. It must be assumed that even if a small part of them was not carried out ...
            1. -1
              April 25 2023 20: 30
              I did NOT give all the numbers, because I thought that you could handle it yourself.
              Over a hundred thousand were shot for espionage, wrecking, according to the "law of three spikelets", etc. these are the victims of repression.
              But the dispute was originally about the victims of 37-38 years.
              642 thousand under Article 58 is 80 percent of 799 thousand. Applying this coefficient to the statistics of the 1st special department for 37-38 years, we get an estimated 540 thousand shot purely under Article 58.
              Thus, in any case, the number of those shot in 37-38 was measured in hundreds of thousands, as indicated in the article.
              1. 0
                April 25 2023 21: 14
                Quote: Engineer
                I did NOT give all the numbers, because I thought that you could handle it yourself.
                Over XNUMX executed for espionage, sabotage, according to the "law of three spikelets" etc. these are the victims of repression.
                But the dispute was originally about the victims of 37-38 years.
                642 thousand under Article 58 is 80 percent of 799 thousand. Applying this coefficient to the statistics of the 1st special department for 37-38 years, we get an estimated 540 thousand shot purely under Article 58.
                Thus, in any case, the number of those shot in 37-38 was measured in hundreds of thousands, as indicated in the article.
                Is your last name A.V. Antonov-Ovseenko or L.E. Razgon by any chance? Why not 40 million shot, and yes, according to the law on "three spikelets" they were shot?!
                1. -3
                  April 25 2023 22: 12
                  The Stalinist is straining to "billion shot personally by Stalin"
                  yes, according to the law on "three spikelets" they were shot?!

                  Yes, they shot
                  Apply as a measure of judicial repression for theft of goods on
                  railway and water transport the highest measure of social protection -
                  execution with confiscation of all property and with replacement under extenuating circumstances
                  imprisonment for a term not less than 10 years with confiscation of property.

                  Apply as a measure of judicial repression for embezzlement (theft)
                  collective farm and cooperative property the highest measure of social protection -
                  execution with confiscation of all property and with replacement under extenuating circumstances
                  imprisonment for a term not less than 10 years with confiscation of all
                  property.
                  1. 0
                    April 26 2023 16: 36
                    In "Decree 7-8" the word "execution" often and menacingly sounds, from which it is often concluded that those who fell under its sanction were immediately put up against the wall.

                    But here are the statistics of the first months of the “Law on Three Spikelets” preserved in the archives: 3,5% of those convicted were sentenced to capital punishment, 10% to 60,3 years in prison, and below 36,2%. At the same time, 8 percent of those who fell into the third category were not imprisoned at all.
                    On March 27, 1933, the Presidium of the Central Executive Committee of the USSR demanded to stop bringing to justice those who are guilty of petty and isolated thefts or who stole because of need or in the presence of other extenuating circumstances. But this requirement was again not fulfilled by the executors on the ground. Then the worried Prosecutor General of the USSR Vyshinsky in December 1935 appealed to all the highest authorities (Central Committee, Council of People's Commissars, Central Executive Committee), demanding that the cases of all those convicted under the law of August 7 be reviewed. After considering this requirement, Stalin agreed with the arguments of the Prosecutor General. As a result, out of 115 cases, in 91 cases, the punishment was found to be unlawful, and almost 40 people were released, who continued to serve their sentences at that time.
                    1. 0
                      April 28 2023 15: 25
                      Quote: WFP-1
                      Then the worried Prosecutor General of the USSR Vyshinsky in December 1935 appealed to all the highest authorities (Central Committee, Council of People's Commissars, Central Executive Committee), demanding that the cases of all those convicted under the law of August 7 be reviewed.

                      In the village of Sibirovka, Tambov Region, those who did not steal on the collective farm simply died of hunger. When my grandmother visited Sibirovka in 1970, she was told that by the beginning of the war, the collective farm activists had grown old and were removed from leadership work. So all the former collective farm leaders removed from leadership work on the collective farm in the village of Sibirovka died of starvation by the end of the war.
  16. +5
    April 23 2023 11: 12
    In fact, many understand that the "sleepers" and saboteurs are sitting at the very top.
    Could some janitor or human rights journalist lobby Boeing to the detriment of their aviation industry, and secretly keep their son in Omerik? No.

    But Medvedev could.
    1. +4
      April 23 2023 14: 23
      Yes, we remember how he said that "dangerous Soviet aircraft" should be scrapped for the sake of safe Western ones. And about 200 km of the sea zone donated by Norway - too.
  17. +3
    April 23 2023 11: 53
    Pathetic attempts with the help of a stone ax and a digging stick to find their way into the 21st century. The future is never in the past - it is always ahead. In the past - the past, the former, less effective, humane, obsolete.
    Something, but we have always loved cannibalism with rapture, which even worldly-wise Papuans would envy. The saying "the first whip to the scammer" has unfortunately been forgotten ..
  18. +1
    April 23 2023 13: 20
    we are confronted with the principles of Lawrence Peter. Following them, almost any modern hierarchy is created not to eliminate incompetence, nor to identify and reward competence. Whatever goals she originally set, once the hierarchy is established, her own existence becomes her goal.

    One can argue with that.
    Firstly, there is no hierarchy as a goal-setting being.
    There are people who make it up, and the "Peter principle" is attributed to the person who is at the top of it. This "upper step" is a relative value in intricate hierarchical chains. In theory, this is any link in the chain, except for the lowest one.
    Secondly, in fact, such a link in the chain may have goals and motives that are completely different from those declared by Lawrence Peter. It all depends on a particular person who may desire both a selective team of subordinates and a reorganization of the hierarchical system itself.
  19. +3
    April 23 2023 13: 45
    Quote: Adrey
    As far as I understand, "leftist views" are for those who do not agree with the current policies and actions of the authorities at the moment.


    Left views are for those who understand that the real alternative to the left course in our country is the right course, more precisely, the ultra-right, which practically means fascism (even if with a quasi-liberal color).
    Socialism, for all its shortcomings in implementation, is still preferable to fascism/Nazism.
  20. -3
    April 23 2023 13: 54
    Quote: parusnik
    Needs began to be curtailed and became more expensive, and then the state, the USSR was scolded for not allowing the needs to develop, and they blamed for this, and not for the lack of "freedom of creativity." And when they found fault, they were delighted with them. And they began to find fault with this state, everyone was in shock.


    No. It's just that these shots are a little more insightful and understand that Putin's course is still a little different than the "development" according to Yeltsin. And in the future, it can lead to such an end point that this whole liberal shoble will become extremely uncomfortable.
    Any slightest recovery, any slightest positive in our life will inevitably return to us the traditions of "Sovietness", beyond the desires of the ruling elite. Since our country can really develop only along the Soviet path, but it still needs to be developed, otherwise the country will be devoured along with the elite.
    The only viable capitalism in our country is state capitalism, so the actual nationalization of all spheres of life will increase. Well, from state capitalism to socialism - the path is not very long and the easiest.
    As, however, before fascism ...
    1. +1
      April 24 2023 00: 32
      Drawn terms. Capitalism is private property, speculation and usury, it does not happen otherwise. If it is state-owned, then who is this private owner of the means of production, subsoil and the financial sector? The one who sits in the Kremlin? There is no state capitalism, the notion of contra from the 90s.
  21. 0
    April 23 2023 14: 22
    with hundreds of thousands shot during these years. That is, the vast majority of victims of repression were ordinary Soviet citizens.
    And these "ordinary citizens" wanted to strengthen the USSR, or "their own candle factory in Samara"?
    1. +1
      April 24 2023 00: 26
      That is what they wanted, these citizens. A lot of those who were not "covered" by the purge, then ended up in the police and the ROA.
  22. +1
    April 23 2023 19: 09
    Again nonsense about tens of thousands of executed commanders. This data has long been declassified. In 1937, about 30 were dismissed from the army. About 8 of them were shot. Most of those dismissed wrote letters addressed to Stalin, and about 12 of those dismissed were then returned to the army. Someone was sitting, and someone from the dismissed was just looking for himself in civilian life. In 1938, Beria had already sharply reduced repression.
  23. +2
    April 23 2023 21: 43
    Well, most of the denunciations had completely selfish reasons - to clean up the career ladder in front of you, to free up a room for yourself in a communal apartment, or to write a denunciation of personal enemies until they themselves wrote it to you. And it was full of folk art from people with a skewed roof, who saw enemies all around, since propaganda kept them in the right tone.
    Can it be revived now? Yes, it’s easy, people didn’t become better, plus they were deprived of hope for universal equality and a brighter future ..
    1. +1
      April 24 2023 01: 33
      I'm afraid that now (God forbid the 37th will return) things will be even worse - the people spoiled by the benefits of civilization are much more selfish and more cruel and unscrupulous.
  24. 0
    April 24 2023 00: 23
    Oh, and itching at the unfinished contra. Articles write about hundreds of thousands of those who were shot by bloody gebny. Yes, calm down already. 30 years as the White Guard-Vlasov flag over the Kremlin. The population has been reformatted for a long time. Your power. Who do you want to convince of what? The hot phase of the GW, part of which was the cleaning of the element with the mercenary essence, has long been completed. It is smoldering for now.
  25. +1
    April 24 2023 01: 41
    "A people that has forgotten its history is doomed to repeat it again!" S.E. Kurginyan. However, he only paraphrased J. Santayana. And those who do not know (even have not forgotten, because there is nothing to forget) their own history in Rus' is a dime a dozen.
  26. +1
    April 24 2023 10: 53
    Informing a certain part of the citizens is indestructible. Those who found Gorbachev's "Decree on Struggle and Drunkenness and Moonshine" dated May 16.05.85, XNUMX should remember how joyfully many "vigilant" citizens set about terry denunciation: there was a demand, and people who had a rubber conscience, somehow faeatically convinced, responded en masse.
    The question is only for state bodies, because they should be given "results" and "reports" at any initiative of the Kremlin (in the Ministry of Internal Affairs - "sticks"). But in general, all this work, when some stupid or malicious denounce, and their fellows in government and government bodies "react" is destructive. It breeds hatred, fear, suspicion, and often not only vineyards are cut down, but also efficient, normal, courageous and independent personnel from all structures.
    PS a case from my personal service. In the autumn of 85, a promising political officer was sent to the motorized rifle regiment of our division, from where - I don’t remember the name, I also remember the names of the regiment commander (Katkov) and the division commander (Pugachev). For the commander, relations with the political officer were a very important factor, so the regiment commander called him to his house, have dinner and get acquainted, about affairs in the regiment and so on ... Is it normal? Yes, humanly, and quite even well ....
    Well, a bottle, which was then not so easy to buy, was persuaded.
    A day later, he calls the commander of the regiment commander to himself. "Look who's been sent to you" - pushes him a finely written report. And there, that he, the regiment commander, "did not rebuild", the Decree sabotages, inclines his subordinates to drunkenness, which he, the giver of this as a communist and officer (?), cannot tolerate and hide ...
    In short, the political officer did not work out here, and the political department did not save him.
    But it depended personally on the divisional commander (respect for him, he was later deputy commander of the LenVO), but the state system gave scope and powers for the creativity of stupid people and scoundrels, it ended badly for the country, and such “political officers” were the first to become zealous anti-communists and marketers .
  27. +1
    April 24 2023 16: 14
    Quote: Alexander Trebuntsev
    Again nonsense about tens of thousands of executed commanders. This data has long been declassified. In 1937, about 30 were dismissed from the army. About 8 of them were shot.

    Don't you think that even the figure of 8 thousand officers is shocking and terrifying? Are there similar examples in history or are we the "first" here too? Or do you have it like this: how much how much? 8? Phew, I heard 80.
    8 thousand officers are literally irreparable losses for any country. I'm already silent that these are living people.
    1. 0
      3 July 2023 19: 45
      Not 8 thousand, but 4 were repressed. Of these, after the arrival of Beria in 1938 and the execution of Yezhov, 80% were returned and apologized to them. Rokossovsky, Gorbatov, Podlas, etc., from this list. Do not forget the features of the party system of the USSR, when a party worker had a military rank, hence the numbers of repressed "commanders" Khrushchev N.S. The "whistleblower" himself in 37 "noted" that Stalin was forced to intervene.
  28. 0
    April 24 2023 16: 19
    Quote: Aviator_
    And these "ordinary citizens" wanted to strengthen the USSR, or "their own candle factory in Samara"?

    Ownership and the strengthening of the country are incompatible concepts, right?
    1. -1
      April 24 2023 16: 35
      Of course not compatible, if it is not personal. The huckster has no homeland, his homeland is a margin. Especially in the current period of global capitalism. The patriotic bourgeoisie is in the distant past. A living example has recently been marked by handing out mobile phones to the Nazis. And don't say he's the only one. No need.
  29. 0
    April 24 2023 16: 43
    Quote: Nexcom
    Yes, we remember how he said that "dangerous Soviet aircraft" should be scrapped for the sake of safe Western ones.

    There is such a thing as competition. If IL was actually a private company, there would be a place for it in the world. And there is no need for a fairy tale about the fact that they would not be allowed to get up from their knees. In the early 90s, Russia was given not only McDonald's, but everything that you can imagine ... including computers and technology. I am already silent about software, including design software.
  30. -1
    April 24 2023 17: 29
    Quote: Essex62
    Of course not compatible, if it is not personal. The huckster has no homeland, his homeland is a margin. Especially in the current period of global capitalism. The patriotic bourgeoisie is in the distant past. A living example has recently been marked by handing out mobile phones to the Nazis. And don't say he's the only one. No need.

    Do you live on subsistence farming? "Hucklers" not a ruble? Nothing that any product is the work of people, and labor seems to be paid? Or do you cut a filter for a car from birch bark? Al on a horse (God forbid your own) go to the fair. But no, you can’t go to the fair - there are sellers ... hucksters.
    It is because of private business that our economy is crawling somewhere and has not burst like the economy of the USSR. Read smart books and not watch 1 channel.
    1. 0
      April 25 2023 09: 06
      The economy of the USSR did not burst, it was purposefully destroyed by sabotage, the rupture of inter-sectoral and intra-sectoral ties, in order to change the social formation and the crisis in the life of the population. Because the degenerate Trotskyists saw an opportunity to become not distributors, but owners, against the backdrop of the working class scoring its hegemony and the buildup of an anti-Soviet revolt. The planned economy does not know natural crises at all, because it is not focused on margin and speculative games.
      I don't need your bourgeois books. Capitalism is evil, and the bourgeois enemy of the People, which must be eradicated. Is it clear now?
    2. -2
      1 May 2023 17: 12
      Our economy has survived to this day precisely thanks to the most powerful Soviet economy. Three decades of plundering the heritage of the Union, and still "even in the provinces there is something to steal," as the song says. And just private business is being robbed - the plant is privatized, everything of value is sold, and the territory is used either for shopping centers or for residential development. There are tens of thousands of such examples. So the machine tool industry, the production of tools, practically disappeared, the list is endless.
  31. +1
    April 24 2023 19: 51
    Unjustified wealth, impunity and irresponsibility of officials got everyone so tired that if Putin starts the 37th year of 2.0 now, the people will support him completely! Unconditionally and enthusiastically!
    Unfortunately, this is so.
    1. 0
      April 24 2023 19: 55
      Quote: German
      if now Putin starts the 37th year 2.0, the people will support him completely! Unconditionally and enthusiastically!
      Unfortunately, this is so.

      But his press secretary today said something else: The Kremlin called denunciations in Russia a disgusting practice

      The press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation, Dmitry Peskov, called it disgusting that denunciations have been increasingly being written in Russia lately, Interfax reports. So the representative of the Kremlin noted when asked how he relates to the numerous denunciations that have become more frequent recently, in particular, against the actor Danila Kozlovsky.

      “As for the denunciations, it was always disgusting, it is, and I hope it will be so,” Peskov told reporters.
  32. +1
    April 25 2023 05: 29
    Interesting! I propose to call the TV talkers to account, hold show trials and put them in jail for a loud campaign that discredits our government! Our TV has been blaring for months about the protests over pension reform in France. After all, they raised the retirement age to 64 years - by as much as 2 years! And it is not clear why our punitive bodies do not deal with silkworm journalists - after all, these ostentatious people are very subtly, in a Jesuit way, mocking our government on all channels in a zombie box: our bureaucrats immediately raised the retirement age by 5 years! And the people are silent! And TV, apparently, is necessary for millions of us to rampage on the streets, burn everything in a row, beat the police! It's time, it's time to deal with TV talkers! Although, TV may have a slightly different goal: to show what crappy people are in the West - how can you behave like that? They would take an example from us - unlike their macrons, our guarantors are respected, their ratings do not fall!
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  34. +1
    April 25 2023 12: 25
    You, seeing that a drunken neighbor got behind the wheel, would have remained silent, you are NOT a snitch, are you? He will kill a person, but your conscience is clear - you are NOT a snitch! Any counterintelligence officer or police officer will tell you that the strength of his service is in the support of the population, in informants, but you are NOT a snitch, are you? And if your drunk neighbor crushes your child, you won’t grieve - you’re NOT a snitch, are you? Without 1937 there would be no 1945.
  35. 0
    April 25 2023 21: 48
    What this will ultimately lead to and how productive such a policy is, at the moment it is difficult to say.


    What's so difficult about it?
    An example is the USSR.
    Such a policy is counterproductive by definition and can only maintain the status quo if there is no external pressure, and this is not our case anyway.
    I think so.
  36. 0
    April 26 2023 21: 00
    Those who wish "37 years and SMERSH" are fans of the cargo cult. In addition, they want to return and live not in the drum thirties, but in the calm seventies. And thieves will be able to provide them with repression, but without gingerbread
  37. 0
    April 26 2023 21: 09
    And the scammer's motivation can be up to the desire for a neighbor's hat. The case was told by an Armenian who was engaged in rehabilitation in Armenia. This was the result of a survey of surviving relatives and witnesses.
  38. 0
    April 27 2023 21: 04
    And now 2022 is different from 1937? And it goes even further.
  39. -1
    1 May 2023 08: 07
    Years ago I worked in the apparatus of the regional government. Not an official, a technical specialist. One day the head of the department meets me and asks: are you all right? - Yes, but what is it? - So on you, he says, they regularly write slander to me. But you, if you hear, do not pay attention. I trust you. And if I stop trusting, I'll fire you.
    Conclusion. Denunciations have always been written and will continue to be written. It's all about those to whom they write, and their reaction to it.
  40. 0
    5 June 2023 22: 54
    At one time, the millstones of repression were an excellent mechanism for settling scores, eliminating competitors on the career ladder, obtaining square meters and other selfish goodies.
  41. 0
    6 June 2023 20: 40
    The message of the article is clear. Instead of innovation, competence and generating strategies, the current system, due to some of its representatives, is trying to turn on the mechanism of repression and secure itself. But she, that's bad luck (how well she lived and had fun in "Courchevel" and "London" before the NWO) is now opposed by another system of the collective West with a "torpedo" in the person of Ukraine. Well, who said it would be easy? Not all biathlon dancers have fun, coupled with parades and PR. Well, there have always been poor minds, scribbling denunciations. So-so they are the foundation for the system, rotten ...
  42. 0
    16 June 2023 12: 54
    The Air Force flag should be banned immediately!
  43. 0
    16 June 2023 16: 39
    As for the "comical" cases of Komsomol hypervigilance cited by the author of the article, they mainly concern exclusion from the Komsomol, from where people dropped out anyway due to age sooner or later. It is hardly possible to build a theory of general suspicion and hysteria on the basis of the documents of the Komsomol archives. As for the author's statement about "hundreds of thousands of those who were shot during these years," I would like to know: where are these people who were shot? At one time, more than 100 thousand people were shot at the Butovo training ground, excavations were carried out there and absolutely nothing was found (I had to see photos from these excavations: empty trenches without anything), more than 120 thousand people were shot in the Levashovskaya wasteland , but no excavations were carried out there. But something else is indicative: the number of supposedly executed people is decreasing every day. - At the Butovo training ground, approx. 20 thousand people https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butovsky_polygon, on the Levashovskaya wasteland - "According to the FSB Office for St. Petersburg and the Leningrad Region, 19 people were buried on the Levashovskaya wasteland (including about 450 thousand people in years of the "Great Terror")[8]."https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levashovskoe_memorial_cemetery. But, in reality, as I would like to emphasize: not a single bone of the executed was found either in Butovo or in Levashovo. There are also more exotic cases when 12 people were shot in Chelyabinsk on the Golden Mountain. Excavations were carried out there: 300 bodies were found, not a single one was shot (and you never know for what reason they were buried then, this, in general, could be before the revolution) https://vk.com/wall-350_27569095 So it is deprived of the opportunity to trust liberal horror stories about The Great Terror, especially since now there is nothing that even remotely resembles that time.
  44. 0
    23 June 2023 14: 12
    Linking the growth of the level of "repressions" with the growth of the level of "squealing and denunciation" is IMHO profanity .... Rather, it's even the other way around ....
    In addition, no one has yet been able to find the dividing line between "squealing and denunciation" and, let's call it that, "vigilance and active citizenship."
  45. -1
    23 June 2023 20: 16
    The author muddies the water, leads the reader away from the main enumeration of terrible details. And most importantly, to understand the reasons for the illegal persecution of the innocent.

    The word "repression" was adopted from Western journalists 60-70 years ago and is still worn with it, like with a hand-written sack and shove it everywhere
    : "repressions, repressions"..... .. And it doesn't explain anything, it doesn't make any sense.! Or maybe they were needed?

    Without courts, testimonies, repressions, the NKVD, the Federal Penitentiary Service, the FSB, the CIA, the FBI, and so on. no state can exist in principle.

    It's not about repressions, but about the lawless ancient mores of society. It was not in the USSR and now there are no laws according to which it is necessary to prosecute the innocent. LAW IN THE STATE IS DETERMINED BY LAWS, AND THE WORK OF LAWS - LAW ENFORCEMENT - IS DETERMINED BY THE MORALS OF SOCIETY. What they were wild and creepy 300 years ago, they have remained so. There is nothing more to talk about here.
  46. 0
    3 July 2023 19: 29
    "Only such a state is worth anything if it knows how to defend itself." -almost according to Lenin. The permissiveness of some, determined by the size of the wallet, which, by definition, makes them dependent on "foreign partners", causes a huge negative on the part of the rest.