Reflections on the rapprochement between Russia and China: friendship or calculation

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Reflections on the rapprochement between Russia and China: friendship or calculation

One of the main topics that is actively discussed by the world media is the rapid rapprochement between Russia and China. In relation to these countries, such words as partnership, coalition, mutual assistance and even, occasionally, military alliance are increasingly being used.

However, it is no secret to anyone that in the modern world nothing happens just like that. Moscow's friendship with Beijing is no exception in this case. At the same time, today it rests on several “pillars” at once.



The first is the USA. It is obvious that it is at least shortsighted to fight against a huge coalition, which, although frankly "gangster" methods, Washington still managed to create.

Moreover, in Beijing, watching the conflict in Ukraine, they are well aware that the PRC will become the next target of the West. Moreover, the Celestial Empire has an “analogue” of Ukraine, Taiwan, at its side.

By and large, Beijing has long been able to offer Moscow to create a military alliance. However, the “cautious Chinese” are hampered by two factors: the conflict in Ukraine, in which the ally will somehow have to, but really don’t want to, intervene, as well as sanctions that can undermine the rapidly developing economy of China.

By the way, about the last one. This is the second pillar on which the friendship between Beijing and Moscow rests. Having lost the European market and the opportunity to import Western products, primarily high-tech ones, Russia hastily turned its gaze towards Asia.

Meanwhile, despite numerous statements in the media about the great economic benefits for our country from partnership with China, the latter in this case is in a much more advantageous position.

First, the Chinese "economic miracle" is not able to exist without a huge amount of cheap energy resources, which come there from Russia. Secondly, the rapid withdrawal of Western companies from our country has given a huge niche to Chinese manufacturers, who, using sanctions pressure on Russia, receive the most favorable conditions for developing their business.

Finally, the geographical factor. And in this case, “partnership” is again needed more by China than by Russia. It’s worth starting with the fact that in the event of a conflict with the United States, Washington, with the help of its allies in the ITR, can arrange serious problems for the PRC in terms of maritime logistics. Thus, the land corridor with Russia for Beijing today acquires a special meaning.

In addition, as you know, China is making big plans for the Arctic and the Northern Sea Route. But do not forget that the PRC can gain access to the North Pole only through partnership with Russia.

In general, so far everything boils down to the fact that friendship between Moscow and Beijing is much more beneficial for the latter. This is probably why the President of the People's Republic of China, immediately after his re-election, flew to meet with the President of Russia, without fear of "condemnation" from the West.

It is worth adding that in addition to the above-mentioned "pillars", the consolidating factor for the two countries today is socialism. China allegedly built it, and Russia allegedly intends to return to it. Only somehow this return is hard to believe, especially against the background of the proposals of individual bankers for a new stage of privatization and a return to the accumulation of public debt.

And the question is, is modern Chinese socialism a good example for our country? In other words, will we not become even more dependent on the "Asian neighbor", taking the system created in China as the basis for future development.

So friendship or calculation?

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  1. +9
    April 13 2023 12: 26
    Reflections on the rapprochement between Russia and China: friendship or calculation
    there is no friendship between countries, there are situational allies. why think then? is there an example of "friendship"? to the gums straight? History has already shown that it is not. everyone betrays everyone, in a favorable situation, or stupid leadership.
    1. 0
      April 15 2023 01: 37
      Quote: Aerodrome
      there is no friendship between countries, there are situational allies

      And what about the European Union? Situational allies? Or NATO? The fact that for decades it has been based not on dictate, but on an agreement, has no borders with each other, can also be called a commonwealth. You do not want to say that NATO, in the event of an attack on one of the NATO members, will not come to the rescue? France and Germany over the past decades have become very closely intertwined at all levels, there is even a French-German brigade. The Scandinavians are also very close friends, the Swiss and the Austrians. In short, there are plenty of countries with very good, friendly relations that do not have borders and customs with each other. There is no alliance, or even friendship between the PRC and Russia, this is obvious after a year of war. Yes, this and that helps, the UN abstains, but by and large, all this is nonsense. On the other hand, resources, penny electricity and timber are flowing to China like a river. The Chinese from the 70s to Xi moved in a different direction, now Xi is more and more in conflict with the West, not least because of Ukraine. There are more questions about the Uighurs. Until now, industrial espionage, theft of design, patents, the West is also tired of turning a blind eye to this. At the moment, the Chinese economy is in big trouble, their real estate market has collapsed and much more, and the last thing China needs right now is an outflow of Western manufacturers. China has failed its own competitive chips, processors, machine tools at the level of Western countries, to which Taiwan has long been a part. And without this, China will not get anything good for the world market, and the West will no longer need its plastic tinsel even without it. Can Xi take steps that will encourage the West to break off economic relations, as Putin did? But Putin then went for it with an eye on the PRC, and who should Xi look at? The Russian Federation and the PRC are completely different in essence, the Russian Federation most of the income (was / is?) Resources, the PRC are factories of Western concerns.
    2. 0
      April 17 2023 17: 39
      This doesn't seem right. If everyone betrays everyone, how is this publication organized? How are the military organized? How are governments organized?
  2. +5
    April 13 2023 12: 27
    Even without reading the article, it is clear at this stage only the calculation! It will be seen later..
  3. +5
    April 13 2023 12: 31
    Friendship by calculation.
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  4. +6
    April 13 2023 12: 32
    The sky is blue, the grass is green, the oil is oily... God-level analytics.
    PS This is me, if anything. Not about the article.
  5. 0
    April 13 2023 12: 33
    Semin is an ambiguous character. It is not clear in which direction he is fighting. Revolutionary uncut
  6. +5
    April 13 2023 12: 38
    I didn't say that in politics there are neither friends nor enemies, there are only interests. And now let's understand in a simple way, without verbal lace. China is a very ancient civilization that has filled all possible cones for a long time and has understood well one simple idea - if you have no friends, then there is no one to betray you. Here China is not friends with anyone. And he's not going to be friends. He will help those with whom he is on the path and those who make his path easier. In a good sense of the word, China has everyone, and from this it has great benefits. So it was, so it is, and so it will be. Now about Russia - as a friend, Russia does not stand up to criticism - the entire recent history of Russia is a continuous series of betrayals - Cuba, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, all of Eastern Europe - in the pursuit of MOMENTARY UNOBVIOUS BENEFIT, both countries and peoples, as well as individuals who were abandoned to be torn apart by new "friends" - Russia will have to wash off this series of shames for more than a dozen years - this is me to the fact that they don’t really want to be friends with us, people have a very long memory for such things. So there is not and cannot be friendship between Russia and China, just now we are FAVORABLE for each other. And God forbid (the one with a capital letter) Russia to make a mistake in relations with China - very quickly you will have to learn Chinese and repaint in yellow.
    1. +3
      April 13 2023 12: 54
      the entire recent history of Russia is a continuous series of betrayals - Cuba, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, all of Eastern Europe - in the pursuit of MOMENTARY OBVIOUS BENEFIT, both countries and peoples, as well as individuals, were betrayed, who were thrown to the mercy of new "friends"

      There is nothing to argue against this, it was. I hope that there will be no such errors in the future. As for this one:
      very quickly you will have to learn Chinese and repaint in yellow.

      It's not all right here. In modern China, there is an outflow of population from Manjuria and Inner Mongolia. There is a rather harsh climate for residents, so there is no particular threat to the Far East and Transbaikalia. What does 120 Chinese mean against millions of Central Asians. I think so.
    2. 0
      April 15 2023 02: 11
      Quote: Leader_Barmaleev
      China is not friends with anyone. And he's not going to be friends. He will help those with whom he is on the path and those who make his path easier. In a good sense of the word, China has everyone, and from this it has great benefits. So it was, so it is, and so it will be.

      When China led such a policy, China has always had it. China's ascent to a developed civilization in a short time was due to rapprochement with the United States and Europe. Since the late 70s, China has been on a completely different path than it is now, with Xi, the policy was towards freedom and democracy, a market economy, but so far under the leadership of the party. And China really became, especially since the beginning of the 2000s, more open to the world, tourists also fell. This, of course, contributed to the mass of contracts with the West, access to technology, and trust. Up to the dependence of the West on Chinese factories, which work according to their own Western technologies and on their own Western machines. Now China is threatened with a cooling of economic relations with the West, up to war, if Xi suddenly conceives his own NWO in Taiwan. NATO will most likely not be involved, but Australia, England, Korea and Japan will support the US. For any break in economic relations then. I just don't understand what the party will do when 500 unemployed people start asking for rice? But Xi seems to be saying something, but in fact he hasn’t really done anything yet, and at any moment, the most inappropriate for the Kremlin, he can argue something so bad, for example, really send weapons, but not to the Russian Federation, but to Ukraine. It sounds incredible now, but I'm tired of being surprised by the twists and turns of history in recent years.
  7. +4
    April 13 2023 12: 44
    Many of us suffer from a split of thoughts. It was friendship under the USSR. And if you have renounced socialism, you must stand with both feet on the soil of imperialism.

    Under imperialism, international relations are struggle and colonialism. Either Ukraine will be a colony of Russia, or Russia will be a colony of the West, or Russia will be a province of China. Or there will be no Russia at all ... Ce-la - vie, what you want, then we get ....
    1. 0
      April 13 2023 13: 48
      Quote: ivan2022
      It was friendship under the USSR.

      Friendship on money and bayonets? And Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, China? The desired was presented as reality! As they say, there is only one step from love to hate.
      Only the USSR weakened as a result of adventurous reforms, and then the friendship ended, and the former brother went to his brother. hi
  8. +2
    April 13 2023 12: 44
    Under capitalism, man is a wolf to man, and even countries ... you understand .. Everything is decided by the invisible hand of the Market ... :)
    "Humor, we understand!" (C)
  9. 0
    April 13 2023 13: 00
    Reflections on the rapprochement between Russia and China: friendship or calculation
    Friendship forever or not very friendship, not very forever ... Who knows.
  10. +1
    April 13 2023 13: 17
    China allegedly built it (socialism), and Russia allegedly intends to return to it. It’s just that this return is somehow hard to believe, especially against the background of the proposals of individual bankers for a new stage of privatization

    Reminds me of the 90s.
    The Governor speaks at the rally:
    - Compatriots!!! This year we have achieved unprecedented success.
    Next year we will live even better !!!
    A voice from the crowd:
    - And we?!
    It’s worth starting with the fact that in the event of a conflict with the United States, Washington, with the help of its allies in the ITR, can arrange serious problems for the PRC in terms of maritime logistics. Thus, the land corridor with Russia for Beijing today acquires a special meaning.

    It is interesting here, if I am not mistaken, there are Chinese companies in sea transportation.
    Land corridor - apparently the Trans-Siberian? By the end of the fishing season (pollock / cod, salmon), we had problems with cargo transportation to the West of the country (Novosib., Moscow) even before the sanctions.
    Whatever one may say, but it is necessary to develop coastal infrastructure (cargo ports, railway lines, roads, shipyards) in the Far East region from Kamchatka to Primorye. Currently, this infrastructure provides cabotage transportation in the region.
    Regarding high-tech products from China, the speculative factor of our "entrepreneurs" should be taken into account. For example, how much have the prices of household appliances from LERAN increased in 2 years?
    How much do Chinese cars cost at home and in Russia, prices are too high.
  11. 0
    April 13 2023 13: 23
    After the phrase - an analogue of Ukraine Taiwan for China stopped reading
    How did the author of really sick people compare with them?
  12. +2
    April 13 2023 13: 33
    It's clear that China will win more than our unlucky ones ....
  13. -1
    April 13 2023 15: 03
    China understands, if we are kirdyk, they are next ...
  14. +2
    April 13 2023 17: 45
    It is foolish to talk about friendship in the human sense of the relationship between states. We are fellow travelers (maybe strategic) and relationships are built on the basis of calculation. It's just that China is in a more advantageous situation, and Russia is in a less favorable situation ...
  15. 0
    April 13 2023 19: 26
    Judging by the events of recent years, there are apparently no alternatives to a promising strategic alliance between China, Russia and Iran. It can be said that the circumstances themselves (or someone's ingenious multi-move) mold from this group of states an analogue of the Central Powers in BB5. But at the moment, there is still no forced rapprochement within this group, because this is a very heterogeneous group of states, because each of them individually tries to delay or avoid the conflict and not prepare for it in the position of "the best introductory". A number of intermediate states capable of entering this coalition are also still in a much more neutral status than forcing rapprochement would provide. Separately, any binary union - such as the Russian Federation + Iran, the Russian Federation + China, China + Iran - is flawed in terms of the depth and strategic weight-stability of such an alliance. The trinity, on the other hand, would actually provide a claim to the designation as the main military-political force of the "Heartland". Since such a trinity would definitely lack weight in BV affairs, it would be quite likely that such a hypothetical union would expand by another 1 BV or an adjacent regional state that has weight. The best candidate would be Türkiye but ... Türkiye in NATO.
    Such a construction is slowed down both by the factors described above and by the complex of problems of each of the parties to such an alliance, which other members would not be ready to share.

    All this means that, in my opinion, it is not serious to talk about some kind of "strong" union between the PRC and the Russian Federation without the presence of a powerful third participant. The union of the Russian Federation and the PRC would not have come out global and pretentious without it, the skewed focus of such an alliance would definitely have been in the zone of interests of the PRC and in Asia in principle. Since the Russian Federation is now clearly not in the mood for defocusing from the EU-direction to Asia, since the PRC still cherishes hopes "to resolve the issue of Gui relatively peacefully" - objectively strong factors of a REALLY EFFECTIVE AND LONG-GOING UNION have not yet taken shape.
    But some progress is taking place, apparently the parties are considering this potentially, but as a "Plan B" or "Plan G".
  16. Eug
    0
    April 15 2023 01: 13
    On both sides - both China and Russia - a pure calculation. China that Russia will provide China with its opportunities to achieve and strengthen China's comprehensive advantage over the United States, Russia (I hope) that China will weaken in the fight against the United States for world domination and Russia will have the opportunity to talk with it at least on an equal footing ...
  17. +1
    April 15 2023 12: 07
    The Soviet Union crushed the Japanese and liberated China. Our country was starving, and in 45,46,47 food trains went to China. They built industrial enterprises, transferred technologies, taught the Chinese ... on their own necks ... Then Damansky, Chinese help to the Mujahideen in Afghanistan, China's attack on Vietnam - helped the United States to topple the USSR. Such a friend is worse than an enemy. And now, China does not recognize the annexation of Crimea, although a referendum was held in Crimea and its results are impressive. And we support China in its desire to swallow Taiwan. For what? In Taiwan, what, a referendum was held and 96% of voters voted for joining China? There is socialism in China, capitalism in Taiwan - and our government agrees with China, which has the same double standards as the West. At present, China is simply using Russia in its own interests - and, when necessary, will betray, sell, and eat our country with a light heart.