Ukrainian troops are experiencing difficulties with the start of the operation to release their garrison in Bakhmut

Ukrainian troops are experiencing difficulties with the start of the operation to release their garrison in Bakhmut (Artyomovsk). The Ukrainian command and political leadership cite the weather as the formal reasons (and it rained with sleet in the Artyomovsk region, the soil becomes limp again) and “a quantitative shortage of weapons and ammunition supplied by the allies.” But this is just formal.

Initially, the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine planned to inflict two cutting blows - to the south and north of Artemovsk: to the area of ​​​​the villages of Kurdyumovka and Ozaryanovka, and from Slavyansk towards Berkhovka. A certain movement began in the first of these directions. However, heavy artillery fire drove the enemy forces back in the direction of Konstantinovka, where battles were taking place near Predtechino. By these battles, the enemy’s reserves, which were also supposed to go to the west of Bakhmut, were pinned down, and if the reserves of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are removed from there, then the Wagner PMC units can take control of Predtechino with access to the southern outskirts of Konstantinovka.

Promotion in the northern direction - from the side of Slavyansk and Kramatorsk - the enemy has not yet succeeded either. The main factor here, too, is not the weather, or even the need to save ammunition, but the actions of the Russian troops. After the Wagner PMC advanced to the Orekhovo-Vasilyevka-Zaliznyanskoye line and the destruction of several units of the Ukrainian reserve in Slavyansk and Kramatorsk themselves, the situation for the Armed Forces of Ukraine became more complicated. It is necessary to carry out replenishment in view of the losses incurred, including the replenishment of the arsenal of equipment. But even with this, there are difficulties - tonight in Druzhkovka, north-west of Konstantinovka, a warehouse with weapons was destroyed and the place of deployment of enemy personnel was defeated.

The road through Khromovo (Artyomovskoye) under heavy Russian artillery fire with a clear adjustment with targeting. It is when moving along this road to Bakhmut and back that the Armed Forces of Ukraine suffer the most losses in the vicinity of this city.

However, the Zelensky regime, which has frankly stated that in the event of the loss of Bakhmut, the Ukrainians will begin to apply pressure to start negotiations with Moscow, still hopes to step up their actions. The head of the Kyiv regime, in a conversation with Italian Prime Minister Meloni, said that "in the coming months we can expect more activity from the Armed Forces of Ukraine." And at the same time, Zelensky pointed out that there is still “not enough equipment and ammunition” for the “counteroffensive”.

In any case, the situation remains difficult in the Artyomovsk area and in the city itself, and the enemy may try to counterattack at any moment.

Comments

[Eliminator]

And why are different names given to Bakhmut (Artyomovsk) then Artyomovsk (Bakhmut). Does it depend on who is writing?

[Quote Lavrov]

Yes, even as they call it, if only our people would free him and with as little losses as possible in the remaining time.

[Maz]

The weather is just death to the offensive of the ukrovermacht, cold, rain, then snow, windmill, dampness.

[Uprun]

First, the Lavra needs to be captured ...., otherwise there is such a stronghold of Russians in the rear, and touch up the crosses, although this is not necessary ...., by Easter it will come down anyway ....

[Machito]

Quote: Maz

The weather is just death to the offensive of the ukrovermacht, cold, rain, then snow, windmill, dampness.

Beys interfere with a bad dancer.
Tales about General Frost are more than 200 years old.
The advance of the Eurofascists is hindered by the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

[Alexey Lantukh]

The weather gets in the way. The question is who gets in the way more.

[Vladimir 290]

The historical name Bakhmut was given at the foundation of the Russian fortress by Ivan 4 (the Terrible) after the name of the river. After the revolution, it was renamed Artemovsk. Therefore, in my opinion, both names are correct.

[Hagakure]

Yeah, the original Russian word "Bakhmut". )) Approximately the same native Russian as Makhachkala or Bakhchisarai. )) Where Ivan the Terrible founded a stronghold, before that there had long been a Tatar village belonging to the Crimean Khanate, and, surprisingly, they were engaged in the fact that they mined salt. )) Already then. But this primordially Russian word "Bakhmut" amuses me so much! There it was called before, and Ivan the Terrible called it. Like "Moscow" is a discovery for many, but this is not a Slavic, but a Finno-Ugric word that the Slavs began to use when they occupied the lands of the Finno-Ugric peoples. For many, the discovery that both "Ivan" and "Mikhail" are the most Jewish names in the Russian people.

[Vladimir 290]

The name Bakhmut was given to the fortress at the time of foundation, and what was there before was unknown. Similarly, Kharkov was a Russian fortress, presumably before that there was a headquarters of the Polovtsian Khan Kotyan - and what should the Hungarians, how to give to the closest relatives of the Polovtsians? Kursk, Bryansk and other lands, even in the Moscow and Kaluga regions, at one time belonged to the Grand Duchy of Lithuania (Russian, by the way) and what should we give to the tribalts now because of the similarity of the name and because they were also in the composition?

[Alexey Lantukh]

We must live for today, but remembering and honoring history and, of course, not distorting it.

[nobody75]

Depending on who understands the strategic value of this "Khatinsky well" - Bakhmut.
Hold on people - summer is coming! And in the summer it's hard to fight without water!
Sincerely

[dmi.pris1]

It’s good that if this is so. Otherwise, peppy reports of last summer are remembered ..

[carpenter]

The road through Khromovo (Artyomovskoye) under heavy Russian artillery fire with a clear adjustment with targeting. It is when moving along this road to Bakhmut and back that the Armed Forces of Ukraine suffer the most losses in the vicinity of this city.

All the media are full of the situation in Bakhmut, and some are surprised: “Why not add troops and take Bakhmut faster?”
But there are reasons for this:
A. It is more convenient to fight when the enemy is in an operational environment and is experiencing supply difficulties.
B. The risk of a counterattack on the flanks surrounding the group in the city.
In modern warfare there is another factor - propaganda. Here the rule is simple, if possible, your positive news should overlap the news about the successes of the enemy.

[Hagakure]

Brilliant! But there are a couple of questions to such logic.
1) Why not expand the encirclement at the expense of the added troops, which actually needs to be closed first? It is not closed. By expanding the encirclement, it would be possible to further complicate the situation in the encircled city. It has always been that way, ever since the Roman Empire, and even earlier.
2) Why not nullify the risk of a counterattack on the flanks by adding troops and expanding the encirclement?
3) The city has almost been reduced to ruins. So leaving a way out for the enemy in order to save the city and the civilian population is generally absurd. Are you trying to save the enemy's strength?

Would you mind explaining?

[Tusv]

Quote: Hagakure

Brilliant! But there are a couple of questions to such logic.
1) Why not expand the encirclement at the expense of the added troops,

Genius logic. And what are the RF Armed Forces doing? Are they following your orders? And so an extensive girth is even drawn on the maps

[Hagakure]

My orders? I assure you, I have nothing to do with the command of the Russian troops. And what you call "the fulfillment of my plan" could be it, if you consider this situation only as a spherical horse in a vacuum. And if we consider this situation in relation to the general situation, then actions there are clearly not enough. This is all sluggish stirring, which cannot impress me, and even smarter people. It is surprising that there are people who consider the situation normal!

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Hagakure

Why not nullify the risk of a counterattack on the flanks by adding troops and expanding the encirclement

Why don't you look at a normal combat map and see that, in fact, everything has already been expanded and that the flanks have long ceased to look like thin tongs that can be cut relatively easily?
And the ring is not closed, apparently, in order to make it easier to throw meat into a meat grinder ...

[Hagakure]

And those. in Russia there is simply nowhere to keep prisoners who could be formed in numbers up to 12000 in Artyomovsk. Therefore, spending your people in "minimum losses" should "grind" the enemy with a result of 30 people a day. Divide 12000 by 30 to get 400 days. This is more than a year, and there they will still bring reinforcements, and the Ukrainian army is one and a half million ... A hundred-year war for Bakhmut. Brilliant!

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Hagakure

"grind" the enemy with a result of 30 people a day. Divide 12000 by 30 to get 400 days

Information was leaking out that in this Bakhmut more than twenty thousand bloody soldiers had died. And so, according to your calculation method, the Russian army has been fighting there for 700 days.

[Horon]

In paragraphs "1" and "2" there is no your personal participation in increasing the number of armed forces of the Russian Federation participating in this operation. Or do you offer someone else to participate in building up the number of troops? And take the role of a couch expert for yourself.
The enemy must sometimes be given hope of achieving the goal using the last forces for this in order to reduce his costs for his final defeat. True, this only works if you yourself have enough strength and skills to control the distance between the enemy and his target.

[Hagakure]

No, what are you, I generally suggest that everyone stop. I am a peaceful person. Why build anything at all? You don't want to build up either, so you don't participate personally either. So maybe you shouldn't have started? ))) And somewhere else at the level of "Shooter in Slavyansk" I think it was not worth it.

[nobody75]

And take the role of a sofa expert for yourself

Equipment of the Sofa Troops is leaving for Red Square! The Degtyarev plant has mastered the production of reciprocating combat springs for 100 years! Now they proudly serve in mattresses and sofas of the Askona company!
Sincerely

[Horon]

D) apparently this city is significantly destroyed and the destruction of enemy troops in it undermines the potential of the enemy and gives a chance to survive to other settlements. It works in both directions, that's why they hooked on it. Further, with the decrease in the military potential of one of the opponents below the critical one, point "c" becomes the main one. IMHO

[Hagakure]

And, that is, Russia decided to destroy the entire one and a half million army of Ukraine and the four million mobilization potential in Artemovsk. And that's 30 people a day. Great plan, as reliable as a Swiss watch!
By the way, I completely agree about the "both sides" account. Because the figures of the "minimal losses" of the Russian army have not been announced for a long time. This ingenious formula usually sounds like this: "We destroyed 30 enemy fighters with our minimal losses." I would like to know the numbers of these "minimal" losses. Otherwise, there is a video in a cart walking around, where there are 19 people on the video - the remainder of a company of Russian mobiles. True, in my opinion, near Avdeevka. According to them, two weeks before the video, there were 160 of them in the company. And they are still sent back using detachments. Give a link, or are you already familiar with this video?

https://t.me/strelkovii/4356
https://t.me/piterzov/309

Do you even understand that your logic, to put it mildly, is naive?

[tralflot1832]

Yes, and it got colder in Ukraine, up to +1. On the whole in the west, in general -1.

[Hagakure]

Now specifically in Makiivka there is snow. There will definitely be a cold snap before Palm Sunday. This is a common natural phenomenon. Easter on the 16th, most likely warming means in the 20th you can wait for the start of the counteroffensive. Maybe earlier, but not likely. Most likely, Ukraine and the West will try to manage before May 9, so that the Victory Parade on Red Square itself would be a mockery of the Russians and a farce. They never miss an opportunity to strike a propaganda blow. If Russia does not repulse this offensive, then the next strike will already be joint with NATO forces, which are now accumulating in Poland. NATO will advance through Belarus, and Ukraine will be able to take Donetsk and Lugansk. I think that the NATO members are only waiting for the moment when Russia runs out of stocks of Soviet shells in its warehouses. There, in principle, at the beginning of the year there were 2.5 million, against 18.5
million at the beginning of the SVO. In general, the Anglo-Saxons must be given credit for their ability to fight with the help of the Indians, against other Indians since the time of the conquest of the American continent.

[Horon]

NATO will advance through Belarus, and Ukraine will be able to take Donetsk and Lugansk.

Where will it go? To Belarus? To Russia? Are they tired of living? Are shells only spent by Russia?

[Hagakure]

Oh, how many more wonderful discoveries the spirit of enlightenment is preparing for you. ))) And you were not interested in how foreign mercenaries appeared in Ukraine. Explain to me: are they tired of living?
Speaking of projectiles. Apparently yes. The Americans are sure that they do not spend their shells. Don't give doesn't mean no. There is a bunch of American equipment in Poland, but they still cannot find hundreds or two units for Ukraine. Just keep it for yourself. By the way, there are already 300 NATO troops in Poland. How many Russian troops are involved in the NVO against Ukraine, huh?

[Nastia makarova]

2.5 million right? did you count yourself? this is the most secret information

[Hagakure]

This is actually in open sources. Well, for those who are not interested in anything, the result of multiplying two by two is an incomprehensible mystery.

In general, the main secret of Russian military secrets lies in the fact that they are a secret only for a Russian layman who is of little interest in anything. Those who are interested and follow what is happening can find or meet important information on the Internet, even in their sources. And the enemy lays out information about the Russian army in all details. For example, do you know how many Calibers are in an ordinary Russian salvo? No? There are 75 of them. Moreover, your opponent even paints in detail for each ship, and tells where which ship is located. And these data are confirmed by the results of Russian missile strikes, which, frankly, are weak.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

2.5 million right? did you count yourself?

TsIPSOta has its own channels of the most truthful information ...

[Hagakure]

Well, if the Goblin-type Russian guards are CIPSO, then who are you?

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Hagakure

Russian guards like Goblin

Who is Goblin? And what are "Russian guards"?
And how does this refute your belonging to our smaller brothers, which is determined by how you scorch on trifles?

[Hagakure]

A goblin is a person who communicates directly, for example, with Maria Zakharova, and goes to receptions with Dmitry Medvedev, the same one who is the former President. And he also had more different military specialists, including militias, visiting him than you saw them. And a pure Russian officer like Maxim Bendus, Razvedossa, Yevich and others he has in his acquaintances, who quite often go to visit with all sorts of explanations - a dime a dozen, even from the front line, even engineers involved in military development, volunteers, etc. And who are you that you don’t know who a Goblin is, and who doesn’t know what “Russian guards” are?

[Hagakure]

And about "scorching on trifles." I just live almost on the front line and I completely lack the logic of the rear sofa. Therefore, it is not available to you. Therefore, your childish rear logic cannot embrace the unembraceable. )) My logic is built not only on observations of what I like on the Internet, but also on what I see outside the window, for example, the state of the Russian army, which I don’t like. As well as the results of the activities of the Ukrainian army, for example, in counter-battery combat. Or in such wonderful antics as Himarsy in vocational school No. 19. And yes, since I live in "disputed territories" that Kherson's fate can quite easily suffer, I demand from the RA to show their viability as an army and from the Russian Federation as a state. Finally. I didn’t like the viability of the Russian army since the first DPR column heading for Avdiivka in February last year. Otherwise, even despite my disability, I will by no means be your ally. And the death of my client, who on February 23 last year was a freight forwarder with his wife and two-year-old daughter, and on February 26 already a mobilized corpse, I did not like at all. And I don't like the ways of "liberating" the cities of Donbass. And I just benefit from being neutral. ))) By the way, and according to conscience. You are no better than your official opponents. Yes, such is the cynical logic of a man who has been living in the war for nine years. I assure you, when your snickering state of the Russian layman is invaded by the possibility of a shell arriving at your house, well, and a bunch of cute military goodies, your logic will also suddenly change dramatically. ))) I promise this to everyone, and it comes true for everyone. As well as this war predicted by me exactly at these dates back in 2017, or the flight of the people to Upper Lars. And yes, I follow all the news very carefully, because my life depends on it. And not just the mood, like you. )))

[Repellent]

Quote: Hagakure

I just live almost on the front line

Quote: Hagakure

such is the cynical logic of a man who has been living in war for nine years

And registered 1.5 months ago.

Strange, right? He was silent for nine years, and suddenly spoke?

No, it's not strange. A Crimean woman, an officer's daughter... and everything is so ambiguous. How many I have seen you already - do not count

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Shaw?! Again?! And, as always, Russia is to blame ... In the famine, in the Chernobyl accident, and in general, in everything ..))

[former soldier]

Shaw?! Again?! And, as always, Russia is to blame ... In the famine,

Now it's cold. Where did the north wind blow? From Russia, of course.

[blackGRAIL]

The Azov offensive itself, back in the February articles, was tied to the drying of the soil and was oriented towards May-June. The fact that the counterattack on Artemovsk is part of this situation is quite logical. True, I can’t believe that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be able to live in it until July.

[Hagakure]

May-June is not the drying of the soil. May-June in Ukraine is usually the rainy season. It has been raining for about a month. They can start in early May, in the second half of May or in June. But there is almost always a period of two weeks to a month at this time when Ukraine is flooded.

[rotmistr60]

Quote: Hagakure

Why not at the expense of the added troops do not expand the encirclement ring

In fact, according to logic and tactics, the encirclement ring is usually narrowed (compressed) on the contrary, driving the enemy into an even more disadvantageous position.

[Hagakure]

There is a concept of inner and outer ring of environment, let it be known to you. So, before starting to narrow the inner ring of encirclement, it is desirable to expand the outer one in order to protect the inner one from a possible breakthrough of the blockade and deprive the enemy in the inner ring of the hope of unblocking. Examples from the recent past: Stalingrad - operation "Uranus" if I'm not mistaken, and the capture of Mariupol. Although Mariupol is not the most successful example of genius. There, they took Azovstal exactly until the moment when they blocked the only exit from which the besieged went for water. In the end, everything was decided not by the ability to accurately shoot tactically, but by a glass of water. Which is generally logical, but for some reason not for everyone. And what is described is a typical ideal scheme for taking fortresses. So they tried to take everything and everything: the crusaders of Constantinople, and the Romans Jerusalem and the fortress of Masada. And Carthage, by the way, too. The Germans also took Odessa, Sevastopol, etc. Leningrad was also blocked. The rules of this game - they don't change.

[JonnyT]

Breshet dog ...
They deliberately moved the dates of the offensive to May 9th in order to inflict, among other things, the maximum propaganda damage

[Hagakure]

I think by May 9th they should be done, according to their logic.

[Kvakosavrus]

Civilized People would have destroyed these Russians long ago, but the weather always gets in the way!

[igorbrsv]

. if the reserves of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are removed from there, then the Wagner PMC units can take control of Predtechino with access to the southern outskirts of Konstantinovka.

Here it is not clear. The flanks are now occupied by the regular army, and the Wagner is occupied by Artyomovsk, they are not up to Konstantinovka

[Denis812]

When Ukrainian troops fought on the right side, the weather always helped them.
But when they began to paint crosses on the tanks, and drive the Orthodox out of the churches, then the weather was no longer a joy for them.
They seem to remember Napoleon and Hitler. The weather didn't help either.