American military expert spoke about the weak motivation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the flight of soldiers from positions

Currently, at the front, there is a weakening of the motivation to fight among Ukrainian servicemen. Noctis Draven, an American military expert and veteran of the US Armed Forces, writes about this on his page on the social network.

According to the former military man, the majority of Ukrainians do not want to fight the Russian army. Therefore, there is no need to talk about strong motivation in the ranks of military personnel.

The myth about Ukrainian soldiers that they are patriots, fighting voluntarily, not sparing their lives, is bursting at the seams. Only Zelensky and his Western allies want to fight, so they will gladly sacrifice every Ukrainian to the last man

Draven emphasized.

The American expert believes that the Ukrainian military are happy to flee from their positions, since their plans clearly do not include “standing to the end” and fighting the Russian armed forces. Therefore, Draven notes, there is nothing surprising in the fact that the faces of Ukrainian servicemen leaving Artemivsk (Bakhmut) are “so happy.”

The veteran of the US Armed Forces, therefore, casts doubt on the thesis of Kyiv propaganda, which some Western media are still trying to share. The ideological part of the Ukrainian militants was pretty much knocked out during the year of the special operation, and the forcibly mobilized civilians are not eager to give their lives for the ambitions of the regime of Vladimir Zelensky and his overseas patrons.

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[Nexcom]

They write that sharovary run from positions and training bases in England. They write - on the contrary, the motivation is very high, they try. And who to believe?

[Aerodrome]

According to the former military man, the majority of Ukrainians do not want to fight the Russian army. Therefore, there is no need to talk about strong motivation in the ranks of military personnel.

and therefore, they fight to the death. for garlic, so ours have less motive then. but, ours could not be touched ...

[Maz]

Prigogine clearly said, stop portraying the Ukrainian soldiers as cowards and boyaguz, they stand to the death, do not run and surrender to Captivity only in a hopeless situation. Otherwise, we would already be in Lviv and Uzhgorod would be taken over.

[dmi.pris1]

It's time for McGregor to re-login .. No, if this is another one who showed up as an "experd", then let him go to the front and look at the motivation of the vuk

[Galleon]

It all depends on your cost per mistake. If the price is exorbitantly high - do not trust anyone or one God. If you like to live enthusiastic or enchanted - TV to help. There is another option - a true friend. But erare humanium est.

[Poplar]

I doubt that ukrovoyaks think in such categories as war

for the sake of the ambitions of the regime of Vladimir Zelensky and his overseas patrons.

I think the basis of their motivation is fear: they are afraid of our fighters, they are afraid of the SBU and the Nazis, they are afraid for their families, and for their lives (the law of war is that if you don’t kill, they will kill you). As they say, most of the ideological ones on the front end have already been knocked out, so there are hardly any lofty thoughts there.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Poplar

I think the basis of their motivation is fear: they are afraid of our fighters, they are afraid of the SBU and the Nazis, they are afraid for their families, and for their lives (the law of war is that if you don’t kill, they will kill you). As they say, most of the ideological ones on the front end have already been knocked out, so there are hardly any lofty thoughts there.

then woe to us with our army, since we are so "unprincipled", we cannot run for a year to the Polish border.

[Poplar]

Well, if you think that it's only a matter of ideology / lack of ideology, I'm afraid that you are mistaken. There are other factors influencing the fact that "we cannot run the year to the Polish border."

[Havoc]

Quote: Poplar

I doubt that ukrovoyaks think in such categories as war

for the sake of the ambitions of the regime of Vladimir Zelensky and his overseas patrons.

I think the basis of their motivation is fear: they are afraid of our fighters, they are afraid of the SBU and the Nazis, they are afraid for their families, and for their lives (the law of war is that if you don’t kill, they will kill you). As they say, most of the ideological ones on the front end have already been knocked out, so there are hardly any lofty thoughts there.

So they really think that they will be shot in captivity, there is a video of how a captured Ukrainian asks for a smoke before being shot, but when they cursed him and said that no one was going to shoot him, he cheered up. They treat them well, so they fight to the last

[solar]

there is a video of how a captured Ukrainian asks for a smoke before being shot, but when they cursed him and said that no one was going to shoot him, he cheered up

in Ukraine, another video is often inserted in all sorts of forums and discussions where he smoked, and then he was shot.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Расстрел_украинского_военнопленного_в_начале_2023_года

[Filibuster]

According to the former military man, the majority of Ukrainians do not want to fight the Russian army.

It's time for awesome stories.
Who, then, pushed the Russian army away from Kyiv, drove it away from Kharkov, forced it to make a gesture of goodwill from Kherson, and has been holding Artyomovsk, Avdeevka, and Maryinka for a year now?

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Flibuster

squeezed the Russian army from Kyiv, drove it from Kharkov

this is, of course, overkill, no one squeezed out, just didn’t channel the bluff, and the rest .. well ... it was ...

[agoran]

"has been holding Artyomovsk, Avdeevka, Marinka for a year now?"
And who told you that these cities need to be taken on the run?
Up to 400 Sumerians are destroyed per day, which is better than chasing them across the steppes. Yes, and heavy equipment was also not badly run through. In the latest news, battery 777 was destroyed with crews.

[Igor Borisov_2]

This expert from America spotted this???

[Mikhail Maslov]

Come on, good sir. I just watched the interrogation of a prisoner of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, everything is normal and clear there. Directly in pure Russian! He declared to clean up everyone from the Donbass and Lugansk, and in general all Russians to the gas chambers. and Ukrainians, hatred to death, to destruction. And the Armed Forces of Ukraine run away and surrender (which is rare) when ours are really pressed.

[invisible_man]

Not Ritter with McGregor, that's good.

[Mishka78]

Did an American see this from New York or Washington?
Dill is motivated. Quite and completely. And they fight well. After all, they are really the same Russians, only with skewed brains. In Europe, in general, there are 2 forces that can fight seriously. We are Germans.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Mishka78

In Europe, in general, there are 2 forces that can fight seriously. We are Germans.

no ... the Germans are already "not a cake." yes we are .. we are ... in a forelock guise. themselves are shorter.

[Rosemary]

Currently, at the front, there is a weakening of the motivation to fight among Ukrainian servicemen.

Where can this motivation weaken further, if it was weaker than ever before?
Here is the news on VO dated May 26, 2015 "Military intelligence DNI reports desertion, drunkenness and psychosis in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine"

The military intelligence of the DPR published intercepted documents of the inspection of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which indicate the poor moral and psychological state of the Ukrainian servicemen: according to the command, in the event of the outbreak of hostilities, the Ukrainian units will begin to massively abandon their positions.

https://topwar.ru/75642-voennaya-razvedka-dnr-soobschaet-o-dezertirstve-pyanstve-i-psihozah-v-ryadah-vsu.html

[sdivt]

Quote: Galleon

If you like to live enthusiastic or fascinated - TV to help

To date, the Internet has long overtaken all television, both in quantity and quality of zombies.
Television programs, all these Solovyovs and Skabeevs are childish babble compared to targeted attacks of Internet networks aimed specifically at you. The Internet will first study your interests, find your vulnerabilities, and strike in such a way that you yourself will not notice how you already trust the wrong people

[agoran]

[quote TV programs, all these Solovyovs and Skabeevs] [/ quote]
Very often such sayings are from the Sumerians. Really, where do you watch them?
I only have REN TV and then without sound in the background.

[Tma197725]

How many times has it already been that grief is our army! Ever since the first Chechen! Always in the end it turned out that the death of my grandmother was greatly exaggerated. Have you left Kharkov? Yes, these one and a half districts were not worth it to keep them from laying down battalions! They left Kherson? It was possible to keep it! Spilling rivers of blood of Russian soldiers in conditions of poor logistics !!! The main task of any command is to keep the army combat-ready and capable of performing tasks! Or was it necessary, like 94-95, to lay down people in brigades and regiments? Russian women are still giving birth! So women do not give birth in such quantities. We have no right, like dill, to lay down people in batches! Therefore, we are moving slowly. I think, not excluding healthy criticism, in the end it’s time to feel sorry for the Russian soldier, he deserved it, so that they believe in him and not panic and drive him in front of new territories, our territories are shit and there are few people! And the military-industrial complex plows into arms in three shifts, and we use Soviet weapons, so I think it’s better to have 10 Soviet tanks per kilometer of the front than one and a half modern ones! The use of old systems gives time to accumulate and produce more modern ones. The country is plowing, let's not drive the devils, we got into a fight, so we won't wind snot on our fist, drive panic!

[sdivt]

Quote: agoran

Really, where do you watch them?

ahah)
yes, I just don’t know other surnames, but I brought these to understand what was at stake) These are not just surnames, but symbols of propaganda.
And the emphasis in my comment was not on these surnames (insert any others instead), but on the usual delusion that television is evil, and the Internet is pure and holy

[agoran]

No no, if you know these names, then this is a symbol of propaganda for you.
It means that you advertise interracial propaganda.
So you can be attracted under the Federal Law of the Russian Federation.

[runway-1]

All these reports of foreign and domestic "experts" are pouring in as if from a cornucopia to the delight of jingoistic patriots. True, there is a slight inconsistency: their assessments do not correlate well with the situation on the LBS...

[agoran]

Yeah, they got a 777 battery, they seem to have to stand at a distance there.
Sumerians are really stupid.

[solar]

He writes about it on his page. in the social network American military expert, US military veteran Noctis Draven.

That's what's interesting - this Draven writes on a banned Twitter, it turns out that someone stealthily reads him? :))
But why "military expert"?
He calls himself

Combat veteran, nerd and writer covering culture and politics.
Combat veteran, botanist and cultural and political writer.

Botan, in short :))
It's also on YouTube, by the way.
PS And why are all these emissions of an unknown American in VO needed?

[sdivt]

Quote: agoran

It means that you advertise interracial propaganda.
you can be attracted under the Federal Law of the Russian Federation

Sounds pretty silly, but...
But first, you should check the meaning of the word "race" in the dictionary
Find out how many of them there are on Earth
And also to find out what it is in general, interracial propaganda, and why all of a sudden it should be prosecuted by the legislation of the Russian Federation
And only after that try to explain again what all this nonsense written by you has to do with my comment

[Alexander Tkachenko]

Hitler came to power in 1933. Add 8 years (and compare: 2014-2022) and see what Hitler took by 1941 in Europe, and how the Germans were brainwashed by 1941 (and this is without the Internet, etc.)
And Ukraine began to "brainwash" on a large scale since the late 1980s.