The Ukrainian side claims to have captured a total of 15 Russian T-90 Proryv tanks

The Strategic Command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine reports that the Ukrainian formations allegedly managed to capture 15 Russian tanks T-90 "Breakthrough". This message is quoted by the Ukrainian press, there is no confirmation of it from the Russian military department.

As you know, the T-90M is one of the most modern Russian tanks. The development of these tanks began in the early 2000s. The Ukrainian military claims that the characteristics of the tank are similar to the T-72, but it has significantly stronger reactive armor and an upgraded gun.

The tank has a set of electronic-optical active protection "Shtora". This complex has the ability to protect a combat vehicle from anti-tank guided missiles with a semi-automatic command guidance system or corrected artillery ammunition. The complex forms an electromagnetic field around the combat vehicle, which allows it to be protected from enemy guided anti-tank missiles.

According to the Ukrainian military, the tanks allegedly in their possession are equipped with French-made communications equipment, as well as microcircuits that could be purchased by Russian enterprises in circumvention of sanctions. The Ukrainian command stated that these boards are soldered from consumer electronics supplied to Russia.

Note that since there is no official confirmation of the information broadcast by the Ukrainian side, it is impossible to guarantee its veracity.

Comments

[Nexcom]

Is it the same as with downed missiles? Out of 10 tanks, 15 were captured ??? something trust is not shareable.
Pieces 5 might still believe, but 15 .....
especially after this

The Ukrainian command stated that these boards are soldered from consumer electronics supplied to Russia.

[invisible_man]

A total of 552 captured tanks counted Orix (per year). Of this amount, allegedly 14 pieces of T-90. There are also links to photos and videos, but some of them have questions.

PS I understand that some patriots do not like this information, but such is the price for all these "regroupings". Technicians, unfortunately, because of the stupidity of politicians and military leaders, lost a lot. There is a feeling that even the entire NATO bloc will not give Ukraine that much.

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html

[Nastia makarova]

yeah why not 5000? and how many were beaten?

[Nexcom]

Yes, they do not spare us adversaries - they can write 10.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Nexcom

Yes, they do not spare us adversaries - they can write 10.

I remembered ...

- Tell me, is it true that Katz won a million in the lottery?
- Is it true. But not Katz, but Rabinovich. Only not in the lottery, but in the cards. Not a million, but a hundred rubles. And he didn't win, he lost.

[flicker]

I remembered ...
- Tell me, is it true that Katz won a million in the lottery?
- Is it true. But not Katz, but Rabinovich. Only not in the lottery, but in the cards. Not a million, but a hundred rubles. And he didn't win, he lost.

Among other things, in order to capture 15 tanks, you must successfully advance (occupy territory). And where do they succeed?
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[Alex Barrett]

Quote: flicker

I remembered ...
- Tell me, is it true that Katz won a million in the lottery?
- Is it true. But not Katz, but Rabinovich. Only not in the lottery, but in the cards. Not a million, but a hundred rubles. And he didn't win, he lost.

Among other things, in order to capture 15 tanks, you must successfully advance (occupy territory). And where do they succeed?
---

According to Strelkov, 500 units were thrown near Izyum. armored vehicles, while the elite First Tank was based in those places, so the T-90 could have stayed there.

[Efrosinya Nosova]

Strelkov, lined with armor, from the trunk, of course, can see better ...

[IgorIP]

Quote: flicker

I remembered ...
- Tell me, is it true that Katz won a million in the lottery?
- Is it true. But not Katz, but Rabinovich. Only not in the lottery, but in the cards. Not a million, but a hundred rubles. And he didn't win, he lost.

Among other things, in order to capture 15 tanks, you must successfully advance (occupy territory). And where do they succeed?
---

The territories from which the Russian troops fled are well known ... These are the Kiev, Sumy, Kharkov, Kherson regions ... How much equipment, ammunition depots were left there, we will not know soon ..

[flanker7]

They didn't run. Moved away. Would you Ukrainians choose the right words, since you write in Russian. Or did you live far from school?

[NickShel]

Who are they"? Oryx, unlike bureaucrats from the Defense Ministry on both sides, captures the destroyed / captured equipment solely on video and photo evidence. Or do you prefer to take the word of Konashenkov, who cracked 50 Hymars out of 30 like nuts?

[malyvalv]

Photos from tsipso is a different story. The wrecked tank was moved 1 km, removed from the other side and already oops, 2 tanks destroyed. And there you look and three and 4.
I especially like the album of wrecked vehicles for 800 objects after the offensive near Kharkov. But what if there really was so much equipment there, what the hell would they have captured there? And somehow it doesn’t fit with the fact that a company of Russian guardsmen defended the whole city with almost one rifle for a whole couple of days.

[invisible_man]

and how many were beaten?

they can write 10.

Tanks (1901, of which destroyed: 1148, damaged: 100, abandoned: 101, captured: 552)

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html

As you can see, 10 thousand were not written. And they didn’t even write 5 thousand, like Ukrainian propaganda.

[B44]

Be careful, admins don't like it when someone shares this page, it's a shame to lose an account. At best, you will catch the "cons".

[invisible_man]

Well, what will you do? I didn't create that site. More or less sane argumentation is present there (photo, video). In addition, it is not included in the list of Internet resources blocked in Russia.

[B44]

I know I understand you buddy, it's just that the administration doesn't like it, and denial of reality and distortion of facts is sometimes easier to accept than the bitter truth.

[invisible_man]

It seemed that the administration has a desire for the truth, since it proposes such articles for discussion.

[B44]

I would write what I think, but you know, I feel sorry for the account. Let's play dumb.

[72jora72]

Will you have an acorn? ....... you deserve it)!

[Lako]

One for all, they will not be enough. Fill a whole trough. Let them feed

[this]

This shit site is famous for counting the same tank five times.

[Aken]

Somehow it turns out strange. 101 were abandoned, but they were not captured. It turns out that they were abandoned on their territory?

[invisible_man]

Most likely these are tanks that are impossible (or too expensive) to repair. Those. non-combat loss (engine screwed up) and there is nothing to trophy.

[Aken]

Then why not damaged? Personally, I don't have any complaints about you. I'm just trying to understand the logic.

[invisible_man]

Perhaps "not damaged" means that they were not affected by anti-tank weapons and the failure of equipment occurred for other reasons. Technique often breaks itself.

[bayard]

Quote from invisible_man

Technique often breaks itself.

And also, during the retreat / regrouping, the equipment may run out of fuel ... and they didn’t think of blowing it up. There were also many such cases.
In principle, the loss of about 500 tanks is confirmed by many experts. Incl. and abandoned whole (faulty, without fuel).

[Gravitsapa]

And how many tanks did Ukraine lose, according to these iksperdams?
Tanks (485 destroyed, 294 damaged, 17 abandoned, 145 captured)
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-ukrainian.html

[invisible_man]

What bothers you? That someone Konashenkov gives more? So he has a job.
In reality, with relatively equal combat capabilities (and the enemy has better reconnaissance and shooting accuracy), the losses of the attackers are three to five times higher than the losses of the defenders. And we do not discount bossy stupidity, as an example - Belogorovka with Ugledar.

[Gravitsapa]

Yes, of course, Ukrainians fight 3-5 times (in your opinion) better than Russians.
And the losses are 3-5 times more, right?
Every down will believe in it.

[invisible_man]

All NATO intelligence is now working for Ukraine, including a powerful orbital satellite constellation. Its capabilities are many times greater than ours. Information to the enemy comes in real time. And the Ukrainian gunners are better prepared - all 8 years they trained, and did not drive meaningless tank biathlons. Therefore, our equipment is knocked out very confidently - we lose dozens of it with each attempt at a reckless "bulk", as under Ugledar. In terms of personnel, the losses, of course, are much less.

[Petr_Koldunov]

More or less sane argumentation is present there (photo, video)

Where? On Oryx??? All Oryx statistics and analytics are based solely on public sources and open resources, from social networks. Unverified, unproven, and where outright fakes are provided as proofs... It is at least incorrect to talk about reliability in this case.
I didn't trust him before... And after your link, I got interested in the beneficiaries and got into a jackass, in whose interests this site was created. It turned out that this resource was created and maintained by people from Bellingcat ... in principle, you can say nothing further, but then it’s even more interesting: and he prepares materials for the most garbage media on earth - WSJ, BBC, Deutsche Welle, CNN and etc.

In principle, of course, you can continue to believe that Russia lost 79 aircraft, and Ukraine 57. (Look what aces are there! Just after one - the ghosts of Kiev!)
And Ukraine also destroyed 11 Black Sea Fleet ships...
And also - Russia dressed in the uniform of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, painted the equipment in the colors of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and shot Donbass (until February 24) ...
And yet - Russia staged terrorist attacks in the Czech Republic and Bulgaria ...
There is also this nonsense posted.

In general, in terms of hosted content, this is just the Dutch division of Bellingcat. Garbage from garbage cans. And why are they not a foreign agent? I think, simply because our people somehow overlooked this information trash can.

[invisible_man]

All Oryx statistics and analytics are based solely on public sources and open resources, from social networks.

This is already a lot. Even official intelligence services do not disdain information from open sources.

Of course, you can continue to believe that Russia lost 79 aircraft, and Ukraine 57

Well, what are you. I believe Konashenkov, who daily "shoots down" the Ukrainian SU-25. It's not really clear where there are so many of them. In Europe, there were definitely no such a large number of dryers.

And Ukraine also destroyed 11 Black Sea Fleet ships...

If with small boats - then yes, quite. The hits were definitely not bad. At the same Snake Island.

In general, in terms of hosted content, this is just the Dutch division of Bellingcat.

The fact that these people do not sympathize with Russia and sometimes launch fakes does not mean that photos and videos with broken domestic equipment are fakes. There are claims to some evidence (by eye - 10-15%). But for the majority, no. This is our lost technique. Alas.

[Sss Sss]

Quote from invisible_man

All NATO intelligence is now working for Ukraine, including a powerful orbital satellite constellation. Its capabilities are many times greater than ours. Information to the enemy comes in real time. And the Ukrainian gunners are better prepared - all 8 years they trained, and did not drive meaningless tank biathlons. Therefore, our equipment is knocked out very confidently - we lose dozens of it with each attempt at a reckless "bulk", as under Ugledar. In terms of personnel, the losses, of course, are much less.

Do you really believe in this nonsense from Oryx? Maybe our losses are exaggerated, but not to such an extent that it was 5 times less than they actually destroyed. Usually they lie 2 times, and more is too pale. many photographs raise questions - I looked, blurry photos, I can’t make out anything, and they write - supposedly our equipment has been destroyed)). Plus, what else - all the Armed Forces of Ukraine have a lot of smartphones with video cameras, broken equipment is located on the territory controlled by the Armed Forces of Ukraine most often, since we strike at the rear. Naturally, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will not post their broken equipment on the Oryx website, but only our broken one - they photographed the broken tanks in the Kiev region right up to May, June and later, when ours had already left there for several months, judging by the dates of the pictures. And we don’t have cameras at the military, they spread, as I heard, not all of the footage for some reason. Therefore, to believe Oryx - with these data manipulations, I don’t know, complete nonsense.
In general, after your nonsense that the attacking side loses 4-5 times more people and equipment - I don’t even see the point in discussing and arguing with you)). In general, only the lazy have not seen the giant cemeteries in the Ukraine of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, even the West admits that they have at least 150 thousand dead alone. Have we already killed 600 thousand people or something, with such a loss of equipment))? Ha-ha)). In reality, no more than 40 thousand, even according to the most daring estimates.

[Van_Helsing]

Recently I buried my mother, I counted 5 flags in the cemetery, the site is new, the whole is visible, in the city there are 100 thousand people. If we take as an average value - 7500 approximately

[Disant]

invisible_man (Konstantin)
This is already a lot. Even official intelligence services do not disdain information from open sources. This is our lost technique. Alas.

?*(!what are these "alas - broken equipment - tanks in blue-yellow paint - passed off as Russian losses. And I just looked at the first few photos.
2e. how to distinguish Russian equipment lost in the black soil in the first weeks of its (photographed from all sides five times in different locations), from the same equipment, but already destroyed? It has already been counted at least twice.
3e. about the burnt towers and their affiliation, filming signed in the first days of March - and around the greenery like from a garden, shooting and counting equipment (accessories to the aircraft and the type of tank in squares somewhere below) - I generally keep quiet.
so stop your ritual dances and rassusolivaniya with a smart look.
all numbers sucked from the finger

[zloybond]

It makes no sense to hysteria like a woman on a cart. If you take a critical approach, then I think there is a share of lies everywhere. The retreat also had to be presented somehow - they called it a regrouping. The fact that the people believed and went to war cannot be flavored with deceit. People don't deserve fake news in exchange for their lives. I hope ours take this into account when they give statistics. By the reaction on the site, you can immediately see who works here (constantly sparing without stopping), and who just comes to watch the news. Our managers love reports. They demand reports. Paperwork is rampant.

[Van_Helsing]

In fact, they definitely start wars not with the aim of losing, but to tell the truth, in order to get a second front inside the country, which is much more serious than the landing of the Americans in Normandy, one must be an infinitely talented governor

[Lako]

Well, what do you say right away, he's like a knife in the genitals. Do not interfere, let him write, it's interesting. Haven't read this crap in a long time.

[Andrey Andreev_2]

Biathlon is not at all to blame, but the system that in the past years set a combat mission for officers: writing daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly, etc. reports. The number of paper-making actions did not allow to engage in training and combat work ... And when the time came to do the business to which they devoted their lives, it turned out that the enemy could not be defeated with papers, and there were sorely lacking officers ... Thanks to the Main and Other Commanders (( (The war should be led by the military, and not by builders, furniture makers and KGB officers ...

[your1970]

Quote: Andrey Andreev_2

And when the time came to do the work to which they devoted their lives, it turned out that they couldn’t defeat the enemy with papers, and there were sorely lacking officers ... Thanks to the Main and Other commanders (((The war should be led by the military, not builders, furniture makers and KGB officers ...

Well, there was the USSR, and the army was led by professional soldiers ...
And where is the USSR now??
That's right, professional military men pumped him. Without a single attempt to protect him .....

[2 Level Advisor]

well, purely on the military, I wouldn’t roll a barrel .. in the end, the military is used in the war, but there was no war .. The KGB is more to blame, it’s their duty to act preventively against coups .. but in fact, the whole country is to blame some just a little, some a lot...

[Van_Helsing]

And the army was a mess then. Served 89-91 in Volyn, there was no paperwork, but also preparation

[Ray]

He did not say that they fight 3-5 times better. He said that the attacking side bears so many times more losses. And it is true. To neutralize this, the attacking side should have a threefold advantage in the number of manpower, equipment and ammunition. This is the axiom of war, as they say. I doubt very much that ours have any numerical advantage at all. Rather the opposite. Plus, US satellite intelligence and the virtual absence of ours. Now it became clearer why these "regroupings" occurred?
Glory and honor to the fighters and the junior and middle command staff, that they at least stopped in general and so far have not allowed a counteroffensive.

[Van_Helsing]

Hmm, during the storming of the walls of which thread of the Kremlin or with a shout of cheers into the German windows under machine-gun fire, maybe more. And so, before the attack, artillery preparation should be carried out, with the support of aviation and tanks on the disorganized parts of the enemy, I don’t think that 5 times more than the loss

[nik-mazur]

Quote from invisible_man

What bothers you? That someone Konashenkov gives more? So he has a job

You made such a show off, as if the admins of the bourgeois site under discussion have a job to tell the honest truth. Yeah, shcha-ah-ah-z - there are scams and stretches dofiga and more even with a cursory view.
Self-quoting about information from this site:

Quote from: nik-mazur

... looked. Very fluently, of course, and only tanks. Most without the ability to determine belonging. On some. so-called, photo evidence is difficult to understand even the type of technique.
There is also outright cheating.
For example, the section on T-72V losses, photo 131, was taken in Mariupol by our military officers. The remains of something armored were broken into unrecognizable fragments, but they belonged to the Ukrainian side. I remember this report well, because I asked myself the same question as the military commander: “Why is it so?”

Another example: the same section of the T-72V, photo 149 is taken from the report “Places of Military Glory: How the LPR is Freed”, which, as it were, hints at the ownership of armored vehicles - it is unlikely that the Ukrainian side will show their successes under this name.

It must be assumed that if you dig, then there will be such jambs to a fig and more.
By the way, in a similar calculation, the Ukrainian side is also not without jokes: for example, the T-72, counted in Ukrainian losses, is accompanied by a caption on the photo that this is a Russian tank.
In general, that other source ...

Quote from invisible_man

the losses of the attackers are three to five times the losses of the defenders

Will you spoil the source of this wisdom with a proof? And then everyone repeats this mantra, but no one has ever managed to substantiate it. Maybe you can...

[invisible_man]

And I do not argue that there are jambs on this site. Percent 10-15, by eye.

Will you spoil the source of this wisdom with a proof?

Find the video of the defeat of our column near Ugledar. And many attacks ended like this. With the almost complete absence of losses from the enemy. And what about the scorched columns of our equipment in the Kyiv region? And what about the "successful" assault on Kharkov? Open your eyes already, we had a series of DESTRUCTIONS in March-April last year, while the enemy suffered many times less losses. Or do you think that the "goodwill gesture" really happened out of goodwill? Until now, we can’t really recover and we are removing some obsolete rubbish from conservation.

[nik-mazur]

Quote from invisible_man

Find the video of the defeat of our column near Ugledar. And many attacks ended like this. With the almost complete absence of losses from the enemy

If everything is so chocolatey with the enemy, then why is Ukraine begging for absolutely everything - planes, tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, artillery, MLRS, shells, and most importantly, money, lots and lots of money? Maybe you just haven't seen the video of the defeat of Ukrainian columns, fortified areas, warehouses, etc.? Or are you one of those who believe that there is nothing that is not in the Telegram? And vice versa - there is only what is posted on the Internet?

[Lutens]

Everything is bad with them. It turned out that our armies are worth each other, they probably grew up in one country. Do our mobiles complain? They also have enough of such videos. We have problems with shells, they broadcast the same thing. In general, all the problems that we have, they also have. It’s just that for some reason journalists present everything one-sidedly, their journalists say that we have ... ours is the opposite. The truth is in the middle, both sides have similar problems and plus or minus similar losses Somewhere they rake in full, somewhere we are, something in between and looms. Therefore, the war became a trench, that neither side has an overwhelming advantage. they will just go with the flow and collapse like an army. So bad weather and supplies from NATO are important, but the most important thing is that it’s important for them not to make a mistake, otherwise everything can break down, only pockets of resistance will remain, not the army. It’s important for us not to fall apart, there are no reserve armies , mobikov too. Until you prepare everythingthe front will collapse. And if they go on the offensive, for some reason I’m sure that it will be night, NATO’s equipment is equipped with night vision devices and heat guns as standard. The calculation will break through some section of the front and most likely our guys will be equipped worse for night battles. If they are stopped at they won’t have enough strength for a second such blow. At best, hold the positions in which they are now.

[nik-mazur]

Quote from Lutens.

Therefore, the war became a trench, that neither side has an overwhelming advantage

Firstly, the war, after all, is not quite a trench war - where there is intense fighting there is movement, where there is no movement and there is not much fighting. And the real trench warfare, as in the First World War, was distinguished precisely by incredibly active actions with a fixed front.
Secondly, there is a nuance - after all, the advantage is on our side, despite the successful cavalry attacks of the Ukrainian army last fall. At the same time, the Russian army is fighting with a third of its strength, and the Ukrainian army is fighting with all its might, if not the last.

Quote from Lutens.

Until you prepare everything, the front will collapse

It is impossible to bring down almost a thousand-kilometer front with the Ukrainian amount of equipment. Especially in one night - at least how many night vision devices and thermal imagers will be there ...

[Ray]

Begging in order to return the borders of 91. In order to take back the Crimea. They already felt the taste of blood and the sweetness of victories. With one begged Hymers and howitzers, they achieved all these gestures of goodwill, "regroupings" and the surrender of Kherson (the left bank of the Dnieper).
Here the question is different. Why did ours allow this? Why did the Hymers get to the front? Why did country 404, located nearby, with a collapsed army and quarter 95 at the helm, manage to hold out against a "superpower" with a "second army in the world" for more than 3 weeks?
Exactly this amount was enough for the United States to infect Iraq, located many thousands of kilometers away, with more than 2000 tanks and more than 200 fighters.

[Sss Sss]

I wonder where then, in your opinion, almost 7-8 thousand units of armored vehicles that Ukraine had in the army, in storage, and so on)) went? Why is he begging the West for technology))? And I don’t even see the point in arguing about losses 4-5 times more for the attacking side. Do we have 500-600 thousand people died))? Everyone admits, making calculations using various methods, that Ukraine has at least 120-150 thousand killed alone. And here spies from the BBS cannot find more than 14 thousand burials. And in Ukraine, for some reason, no one counts the grave. I heard that there are several cemeteries with 15-17 thousand graves just under Dnepropetrovsk alone. And none of the BBS is in a hurry to count the number of burials in Ukraine)). In reality, Russia has no more than 30-40 thousand killed. In your opinion, Ukraine lost 10 thousand only killed))? And Russia lost 4-5 times more equipment? What the hell))? If you believe enemy propaganda - your business. But Oryx is complete crap. Why - already explained in his other message.

[72jora72]

I wonder where, in your opinion, almost 7-8 thousand units of armored vehicles, which Ukraine had in the army, in storage, and so on, went away))?

You understand that nothing them won't you prove it? Some are just frank ipso, others who believe as in a "bible" in any information thrown into the Internet. I remember in the years 15-16 the same characters told about the collapse of the LDNR Corps - like there are only alcoholics, there is no discipline, no training, no equipment weapons ....... As a result, it turned out that only trophy armor for 14-15 years , the Corps have more than 800 units (which Oryx will never tell about), and in terms of combat coordination, few can compare with them ....

[valera75]

Quote from invisible_man

Find the video of the defeat of our column near Ugledar. And many attacks ended like this. With the almost complete absence of losses from the enemy. And what about the scorched columns of our equipment in the Kyiv region? And what about the "successful" assault on Kharkov?

Muradov was filmed for a reason, which means there were hard jambs near Ugledar, and one of the videos where about three dozen armored vehicles were destroyed, as they say, a lot was blown up by mines, speaks of this.
Near Kharkov, like near Chernigov, large columns of ours were smashed in the first days of the war, which wandered the streets and looked for something, but rather got lost because no one was waiting for them except for an ambush. And columns of abandoned tigers and shells, whole, dozens, all this fell to Ukrainians, and much has already been taken apart in the states for cogs. Unfortunately, all these huge losses were and, judging by the Ugledar case, continue to be. Crimea and Donbass, and then they will move to Moscow. They know how to PR there, and unfortunately we give them a lot of reasons

[Ray]

Muradov was removed, I agree. But a couple of weeks ago, they added stars in uniform, if you remember. Personally ... tin. And after all, it is not only Muradov who needs to be filmed. You have to take it higher. Stalin by May 42 for the second time in less than a year of the war changed the chief of the General Staff, placing the young 46-year-old Vasilevsky. The young 45-year-old Zhukov was sent to defend Stalingrad. Yes Yes. That's how much they were. And we have? Gerasimov and Shoigu are already under 70. Should he lead the "special operation"?
Surovikin Ito was something around 55 years old. There is a young Teplyakov, commander of the Airborne Forces, a hero of Chechnya. But for some reason we have "The road to the old"!

[svarog77]

Remember the video with explicit editing and gluing ...

[nik-mazur]

Quote from invisible_man

Video ... search

Oh yes, no video can confirm the thesis that the losses of the attackers are always and always three to five times higher than the losses of the defenders. There is no such thing in military theory either. And in the bylaws. And this “law” exists in the minds of armchair experts who saw something somewhere on the Internet and took it as a dogma...

[svp67]

Here in the photo dated April 19.04, not even a tank, but on the second month of May, yes, the T-72B, the first modifications, the characteristic "cheekbones" on the tower, for which the Americans called this modification "Super Dolly Parton". But here the caterpillar is old, a la T-55/62 with RMSh, now another caterpillar is being installed on our "beshki". So 50 to 50, this tank can be both ours and Ukrainian

[nik-mazur]

Quote: svp67

So 50 to 50, this tank can be both ours and Ukrainian

As one of the commandments of the samurai says: If in doubt, do not doubt. So, any doubts are not doubts, since they are interpreted in favor of Ukraine...

[svp67]

Quote from: nik-mazur

So, any doubts are not doubts, since they are interpreted in favor of Ukraine...

This is the whole problem of Ukraine, she "wants to be a bride at any wedding, and at a funeral - the deceased ..."

Quote from: nik-mazur

As one of the commandments of the samurai says: If in doubt, do not doubt.

That is, you do not support the thesis that "Ukraine is Europe" ... Commendable

[nik-mazur]

Quote: svp67

You do not support the thesis that "Ukraine is Europe"

I generally try not to use slogans. But if anything, then lately, rather, Europe is Ukraine ...

[svp67]

Quote from: nik-mazur

Europe is Ukraine...

But there are no samurai in Ukraine and never have been, where did their "wisdom" come from then ...

[Andrey Semiletov]

We open the book "Tactics: Platoon, Squad, Tank" 1985 edition. And we find there a plate of losses in the offensive, depending on the ratio of the density of the fire of the parties.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Andrey Semiletov

We open the book "Tactics: Platoon, Squad, Tank" 1985 edition. And we find a sign of losses there

a) Where is the board? Well, or at least on which of the 480 pages?
b) In the mentioned book, we are not talking about threefold losses, but about a threefold superiority in the density of fire.

[Sss Sss]

Quote from invisible_man

What bothers you? That someone Konashenkov gives more? So he has a job.
In reality, with relatively equal combat capabilities (and the enemy has better reconnaissance and shooting accuracy), the losses of the attackers are three to five times higher than the losses of the defenders. And we do not discount bossy stupidity, as an example - Belogorovka with Ugledar.

Even the West admits that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have losses of at least 120-150 thousand killed alone. We have that, 600 thousand people have died already))? What nonsense are you writing?

[Quiet Don]

Do not talk nonsense about the fact that the losses of the attackers are greater, and even 3-5 times. Not necessarily and not always, there are many factors. As an example, the Wehrmacht, actively advancing in 1941, suffered much fewer losses than the Red Army.

[Ryazan87]

+ a noticeable superiority in the number of modern anti-tank systems. This also had an effect.
Oryx, of course, is a relatively reliable source - there have been cases of duplication of one object (several photos from different angles or at different times), sometimes questions arise with the belonging of the damaged armored vehicles. But the order of losses can be estimated.

[SergLv]

Thank you, I looked at the site, I can’t speak for the accuracy of all the information. But a number of photos raise questions about belonging. You can also offer dill for ours. Shooting at night, and from the crater, is especially doubtful. You definitely won't see belongings there. But you have to give credit. There is a photo of equipment and a date.

[RED_ICE]

For that they wrote: Tanks (1906, of which destroyed: 1151, damaged: 100, abandoned: 102, captured: 553)

[Horon]

I understand that some patriots do not like this information.

I understand that non-patriots can believe anything, especially about boards from household appliances that are soldered at our military-industrial complex factories.

[Beetle1991]

The author is also a fake one.

The tank has a set of electronic-optical active protection "Shtora". This complex has the ability to protect a combat vehicle from anti-tank guided missiles with a semi-automatic command guidance system or corrected artillery ammunition. The complex forms an electromagnetic field around the combat vehicle, which allows it to be protected from enemy guided anti-tank missiles.

Firstly, the curtain was placed on early modifications of the T-90. On the t-90m it is not.
Secondly, the curtain is essentially 2 IR spotlights, which, in theory, should have blinded the operator of the 1st and 2nd generation anti-tank systems. Like, the operator launched the gun, leads it, and the tank begins to blind the operator, the operator cannot determine exactly where to direct the missile. but this is in theory, in practice sadness with this curtain.
It does not create any electromagnetic field.

[volodimer]

That's about "boards from household appliances that are soldered at our military-industrial complex factories", exactly lie!
The Russians themselves massively solder boards from their household appliances and hand them over to the needs of the SVO.
I personally ripped apart a washing machine, two refrigerators and a food processor. Tomorrow I'll take the coffee machine and the bread machine. There is also a slow cooker, a vacuum cleaner, a stove and a toaster!
Let them not hope that we will run out of weapons.
Here come the clowns...
But seriously, information from propagandists on both sides must be divided and filtered.

[Warrior-80]

It is slyly written here, captured or wrecked, it often happens in an offensive tank battle that a caterpillar was shot down or the engine was damaged, the tank looks intact, but it’s damaged, they still don’t have spare parts, otherwise they would have fought on them, but there is no such data

[Allbe Diplomat]

The stupidity of military commanders rolls over

[Andrey Andreev_2]

The stupidity of amateurs who got into a fight without proper preparation goes off scale ... and even more annoying is the stupidity of amateurs who, apart from poking their fingers into the clave, are no longer capable of anything.

[Warrior-80]

You will feel the stupidity of Russian weapons in your own skin, and courage and honor

[Materialist]

The link contains information only about 9 destroyed (by a fait accompli, who destroyed is not specified) and 7 captured and "damaged"
Knowing the attitude to the technology of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation on the part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, it must be assumed that even 9 pcs. may be over-populated
Of these 9, I probably counted the T-90M and probably 6 destroyed, 2 cannot be identified from the photos provided, 1 did not burn out on the video, and is probably repairable
On the "damaged" I stopped at the 2nd, since the quality is such that it is impossible to identify the car
In general, the number 16 should be taken as the maximum, in one ratio or another, lined / captured,

[Lawrence_OnYouNo]

Quote from invisible_man

A total of 552 captured tanks counted Orix (per year). Of this amount, allegedly 14 pieces of T-90.

exactly confirmed 6 new ones in the Kharkiv region + 1 with a downed caterpillar + 1 padded ... 8 pcs. T90M is definitely in the trophies of the Armed Forces of Ukraine!!! 15 pcs. this is an easily achievable figure for all...
and yes, if the oryx is lying, then no more than 15%, but for aviation it’s generally +/- true, confirmed from various sources.

[BUMER]

Yes, I briefly walked through the planes, I decided to find photos of several instant 29s destroyed at the Ukrainian airfield at the beginning of the war (the first thing that came to mind) - they are not there.
Or, for example, judging by this site, Ukraine has lost 30 helicopters for the entire time of the NWO. Which is obviously greatly underestimated.
These "statistics" are far-fetched under Western propaganda.

[Lawrence_OnYouNo]

Quote from BUMER

Yes, I briefly walked through the planes, I decided to find photos of several instant 29s destroyed at the Ukrainian airfield at the beginning of the war (the first thing that came to mind) - they are not there.

they are there and fixed.

Quote from BUMER

These "statistics" are far-fetched under Western propaganda.

this statistics is fully consistent with the state of affairs at the front!!!!!
does the retreat from the Kyiv / Chernihiv / Sumy / Kharkov region tell you nothing?

[Jafar]

I don't see any logic. If they have 552 captured tanks, then where are they? Why aren't they in Artemovsk if Zelya values ​​them so much? Why would they need a couple of dozen NATA tanks then?

IMHO, this Orix is ​​not a site, but a collection of fakes with admins from zips. Moreover, taking into account the data on losses, it’s so completely ridiculous

[Lawrence_OnYouNo]

Quote from Jafar

I don't see any logic.

look and see!

Quote from Jafar

If they have 552 captured tanks, then where are they?

everything is at the front, there are a lot of photo proofs!

Quote from Jafar

Why are they not in Artemovsk,

just recently they uploaded a video with a captured T72B3 in bakhmut)))))))

Quote from Jafar

Why would they need a couple of dozen NATA tanks then?

the more, the better ... for the same reason, why do we need a mtlb with a ship's anti-aircraft gun!

[Mirakuru]

I came across this oryx last fall. I ran around the site for 5 minutes accidentally clicking on the tanks, as a result, half of all the photos on which you don’t understand at all what is shown. There are no photos at all in part, and then I got on the T72, the proofs of which were screenshots of a report from the Zvezda TV channel about the destroyed UKRAINIAN tanks, and next to the one I poked at, there were several more T72s with proofs that were cut from the same report (the report shows several units of the destroyed technology). Then closed and forgot. In short, there apparently do not bathe at all, the site is designed for the west.

[Popov I.P.]

The same Orix somehow counted the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine under 400 thousand 200s (calculated data), which caused a squeal on the Ukrainian side. It is clear that there is no war without losses, and situations can be very difficult, but none of the parties will publish their true losses while the war is going on, well, at least not demoralize the army and the population. As for the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, I more trust the data of the Israelis who leaked to the Turks - about 150 thousand from the Ukrainians, that is, more than 2 times less. Probably the same with tanks.

[BUMER]

In their "statistics" they destroyed twice as many tanks as they are in service!

[Rome]

Perhaps 14 T90 tanks of all modifications were captured, among which there is the T90AM Proryv! We embellished the situation in the title a little, but it doesn’t change the essence: we provided the enemy with military equipment quite well!

[St_lieutenant]

And who told you that these are our tanks? We have similar equipment with Ukraine. Similar camouflage. And what prevents you from drawing the letter Z on your wrecked tank and passing it off as someone else's tank? You clearly underestimate CIPSO

The fact that Zelensky hysterically asked for 200 tanks suggests that there are practically no tanks there (200 units are crumbs, especially if it is a Leopard-1, which is like the T-62 of the first samples), not to mention good captured ones. Some tanks there are distorted so that even the model cannot be determined, but they are passed off as our T-73B3.

Learn to be critical thinker. Whether you are right or not, we will see the number of tanks in the near future when they advance.

[Lawrence_OnYouNo]

Quote from St_lieutenant

And who told you that these are our tanks?

for those who understand tanks, it will not be difficult to determine the tank and its modification!

Quote from St_lieutenant

Learn to be critical thinker.

well, when you see the results of the NWO for the year, when you see the trophy shell-S at the VSU, when you see the newest electronic warfare system captured at the VSU, when you see the results of the coal / pavlovka / Belogorovka crossing, when you see the beginning of the NWO at dawn (and not at night), when you see the RF Armed Forces in summer green camouflage on March 24.03.22, 34, when you see baofeng portable radio stations on the fighters of the RF Armed Forces, and then through one, when you know that at the time the NWO began, the RF Armed Forces did not have quadrocopters, when you see a first-aid kit for soldiers consisting of a tourniquet and a bandage AND EVERYTHING, when you see the SUXNUMX at an extremely small bombing with cast iron .... when the RF Armed Forces retreated from the Kiev / Chernihiv / Kharkov / Sumy / Kherson region ... WHAT YOUR CRITICAL THINKING TELLS YOU ?? ?

[Robin Robinson]

Maybe it’s enough to quote the agency that cooperates with the intelligence of the United States and Ukraine, it seems to me that when he claimed that we had already lost more than a thousand tanks and the Ukrainians a little more than 300, then it already looked, to put it mildly, implausible, or are you one of those who believes that in the West you never they lie and tell only the truth, not like ours, if I quote our site that says we destroyed and captured more tanks then what do you say that we are cheers winners, but at the same time you believe the West with such information

[lopvlad]

Quote from invisible_man

A total of 552 captured tanks counted Orix (per year). Of this amount, allegedly 14 pieces of T-90.

of which 700 are "Armata" tanks?
For their only and total "peremoga" is the burial of their own population for the interests of the Americans.

[Lawrence_OnYouNo]

Quote: lopvlad

These fake throwers with their "overcomes" are already sick of it.

the fact is that these fakes are quite correlated with a change in the front line !!!! but for some reason our defeats lead to retreats .....

[svoroponov]

Why are there so many captured? There were only 20 of them before the new year. I understand that they ruined the tank that came to them near Kupyansk. And what kind of microcircuits can be from household appliances? Electronic timer and memory. So you can buy this stuff without any everywhere abroad. Cars don't have to be driven. Come to a service workshop somewhere in South Korea. They will sell you a thousand of them. Well, then by diplomatic mail. And that's it.
And if you go through many countries in Asia and the Middle East in this way, then all this is bought and transported without problems and in the right quantity (if it is used at all, which I doubt)
As I understand it, the Ukrainians, in order to somehow annoy us, come up with or use Western manuals.

[Sergey_52]

I went through 10 random photos. Only 3 out of 10 have practically no questions. In total, I go out to a maximum of 200. And then, if you do not shovel everything thoroughly.

[Leontrotsky]

In order to assert this (about the destruction of 550 tanks), strong evidence is needed. For example, a video with taken tanks, their side numbers. At Oryx we see one photo and an unnamed list attached to a single photo. This proves that yes, one tank was knocked out and then, no one knows where.

[brave]

Quote from invisible_man

A total of 552 captured tanks counted Orix (per year). Of this amount, allegedly 14 pieces of T-90. There are also links to photos and videos, but some of them have questions.

PS I understand that some patriots do not like this information, but such is the price for all these "regroupings". Technicians, unfortunately, because of the stupidity of politicians and military leaders, lost a lot. There is a feeling that even the entire NATO bloc will not give Ukraine that much.

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html

You refer to unverified data of the party sponsoring our adversary. Moreover, the authors are closely connected with the sensational Bellingcat project. Indeed, in most of the photographs, burnt equipment without decals; on some others it was simply padded, which could later be restored; on others, the quality is generally disgusting, it is not clear what and where it is taken from.
You are essentially spreading NATO propaganda while accusing someone of incompetence

[tezey]

Find someone to refer to. The Dutch analytical project Oryx refers to information from open sources. The big question is what are the sources. There was such an open source, pan Aristovich. So he reported on the destruction of the entire Russian air army, no more and no less. When reading the reviews of the Dutch, you just need to turn on your analytics. So they write that the Armed Forces of Ukraine lost only 370 tanks in battles. At the beginning of the SVO, the Armed Forces of Ukraine had, according to official sources, 2596 tanks and 12303 armored personnel carriers. It turns out that the loss of armored vehicles in the Armed Forces of Ukraine is far from critical and organizing an offensive with the massive use of tanks for the Armed Forces of Ukraine is not a problem. However, there was no such attack. As we see now, the Armed Forces of Ukraine use tanks either in units or as part of a platoon. In addition, we all know about the supply of tanks from Poland, the Czech Republic, as well as the start of deliveries of Western-style armored vehicles. In addition, they give information that by the beginning of the war, the Russian Federation had 3417 tanks in service. Now 1353 of them have been destroyed, damaged, abandoned or captured by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Thus, it turns out that the Armed Forces of Ukraine should have an overwhelming superiority over the Russian army in armored vehicles. However, taking into account Zaluzhny's lamentations that the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not have the 300 tanks necessary for a rapid offensive, it can be assumed that almost the entire military potential of Ukraine has been turned into scrap metal over the past 10 months. There is no other way to explain the constant demands of Ukrainian leaders to their Western patrons for the need to supply armored vehicles. The conclusion is simple. All sorts of Western analysts, as it were, are busy with propaganda and their reports have nothing to do with reality. By quoting and referring to their publications, we thereby begin to play on their field, even if we do not want to do this. Citizens, just turn on your head when reading such analytics. We are being deceived, they are trying to arouse distrust in their army, their information. Of course, we have losses and significant ones, but not at all the ones they write about.

[RED_ICE]

Those of the 2500 tanks did we throw off 552 units to the Nazis? I will not believe. Maybe 552 units of armored vehicles (tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers, etc.)?

[Fitter65]

Quote: Nexcom

Pieces 5 might still believe, but 15 .....
especially after this

The Ukrainian command stated that these boards are soldered from consumer electronics supplied to Russia.

After the statement that the boards are soldered from consumer electronics in order to put them in tanks, I begin to doubt that they even got 5 pieces. Although, to be honest, they had one as a trophy, that's for sure.

[Lawrence_OnYouNo]

Quote: Fitter65

I begin to doubt that even 5 pieces hit them.

to doubt the captured T90Ms, only a blind / deaf / dumb person can doubt .... there was a video with the capture of SIX T90Ms after the retreat in the Kharkov region ... brand new, stood in a row ... without any damage at all ...
ps
your doubts indicate that you are not at all in the subject, you do not know anything and do not want to know !!!
PPP
just google: - "crossing near Yelogorovka", we will discuss the result!

[Fitter65]

Quote: Lawrence_NaVasNo

to doubt the captured T90Ms, only a blind / deaf / dumb person can doubt .... there was a video with the capture of SIX T90Ms after the retreat in the Kharkov region ... brand new, stood in a row ... without any damage at all ...

And all with microcircuits from washing machines ... And why only 6, and the remaining 9 where did they go. Well, I googled your crossing near Yelogorovka. Well, there is one burned-out T-90 and another burned-out T-72, I honestly am not strong in tanks. And now, for 7 minutes 40 seconds, these two tanks are filmed from different sides, and the distance between them .. The concept of 6 brand new ones in a row does not roll, rather, these are the next two regiments of Pe-2, which the anti-aircraft gunners of the Armed Forces of Ukraine shot down in half an hour.

[Lawrence_OnYouNo]

Quote: Fitter65

And all with microcircuits from washing machines ... Why only 6

everything is clear with you ...

Quote: Fitter65

Well, I googled your crossing near Yelogorovka. Well, there is one burned-out T-90 and another burned-out T-72, I honestly am not strong in tanks.

the stump is clear, you didn’t google anything ... otherwise you would have written about the defeat of the BTG at the crossing ...

[Andy_nsk]

The Ukrainian command stated that these boards are soldered from consumer electronics supplied to Russia.

I don’t presume to judge the number of tanks trophied by the Ukrainians, but about the boards soldered from household appliances, I can firmly say that it’s nonsense.

[Fitter65]

Quote from Andy_nsk

I don’t presume to judge the number of tanks trophied by the Ukrainians, but about the boards soldered from household appliances, I can firmly say that it’s nonsense.

Anyone who understands at least a little in electronics will immediately say that this is nonsense, and bullshit. But they do believe. How they believed in February 2015 and spread the news on social networks about how their anti-aircraft gunners shot down two regiments in half an hour, the latest Russian Pe-2 bombers ...

[ioan-e]

Quote: Nexcom

Out of 10 tanks, 15 were captured ???

As in a joke - 28 tanks received replenishment, they must be distributed into 7 companies of 13 tanks each!

[Herman 4223]

Well, if there are 15, then let them line them up and shoot them from all angles. All this requires confirmation, if there is, show it, no, go through the forest.

[Fedor Rashkin]

You can only trust them...
And so they will tell that our combat satellites were planted. And they have chips from washing machines. Also trophy ones, from Buchi, definitely))).

[Nexcom]

By the way, where is their companion??? Well, about which they then tried with might and main - like a big success of Ukrainian cosmonautics? Well, who stopped responding to requests. Sleeping still?

[tralflot1832]

Lybyad, spat on everything and emigrated!

[Nexcom]

In NASA, did this satellite escape from the shareware from UkrCosmos ???

[tralflot1832]

Rather, they handed it over to bloom, like we had to put it into orbit.

[carpenter]

Quote: Nexcom

Well, who stopped responding to requests. Sleeping still?

Is this the one that was launched in 1957? So he has been standing at VDNKh for 65 years.

[Nexcom]

Yes, nope, they kind of launched it there on a NASA carrier about two years ago. He stopped responding to requests from them, well, they kind of said he was sleeping, charging. So I asked - is it still sleeping and charging?

[voyaka uh]

One satellite (the last one launched) is operational. Sends good quality pictures.

[tralflot1832]

The Lybyad satellite is storming the expanses of space, gathering dust in our warehouse, in Russia. And who else made and launched satellites in Ukraine?

[Lawrence_OnYouNo]

Quote: Nexcom

By the way, where is their companion???

where ours is...

[GREG68]

Well, of course they turned down 15, but they could have taken a heel, during our regroupings in the Kharkov region. Well, somewhere without circuit boards from washing machines and irons, this is a holy cause

[Nexcom]

yes, yes, sharovarnye wrote that we have organized special points where they sit and solder microcircuits from household appliances. exactly. yeah.
in connection with which they suggested - do not supply soldering irons to Russia!

[alexmach]

Well, of course they turned down 15, but they could have taken five

I'm wondering, how do you come to these conclusions? Why 5 could and 15 couldn't?

[Lawrence_OnYouNo]

Quote: GREG68

Well, of course they turned down 15, but they could have taken a heel, during our regroupings in the Kharkov region.

you are deeply off topic ... in the Kharkov region they took as many as 6 brand new T90Ms, stood on the road without crews ...

[Pankrat25]

Maybe it's time to judge the tankers and their commanders that they are abandoning equipment like that? Personally, I have seen videos of Ukrainians with our tanks more than once. I don’t know about the number, but they definitely have more than one thing. And they were lined with crosses on their sides!

[1976AG]

Quote: Pankrat25

Maybe it's time to judge the tankers and their commanders that they are abandoning equipment like that?

And if it's all lies, then who to judge? Direct electronics, what about military equipment, what is the same and interchangeable for civilians?

[akropin]

https://topwar.ru/202055-pochemu-brosili-t-90m-v-ukrainskom-lesu.html

[Geosun]

There are lies, and there is twisting the truth. The truth is that the same capacitors, resistors, relays and transistors are used, and even the same copper wires. But the fact that boards are soldered from household appliances is utter nonsense. More stupid than soldering a relay out of a washing machine, and not ordering a box of relays in China for the same price or at our factories, what perverts you have to be.

[Serg koma]

Quote: 1976AG

What if it's all lies...?

And what about the military prosecutor's office, "sit out your pants"?

"Criminal Code of the Russian Federation" from 13.06.1996 N 63-ФЗ (ed. From 18.03.2023)
Criminal Code of the Russian Federation Chapter 33. CRIMES AGAINST MILITARY SERVICE
Article 348. Loss of military property

More

Federal Law No. 12.07.1999-FZ of July 161, 08.06.2020 (as amended on June XNUMX, XNUMX) "On the Financial Liability of Military Personnel"

Have you heard such a thing as "riveting a cannon"? So why did they abandon equipment, weapons, ammunition during the "regrouping"? To destroy, by order of the command (to render unusable for further use even as a donor) is the task of a serviceman who is entrusted with military property.

According to Art. 144 and 145 of the Charter of the internal service of the Armed Forces of Russia, the company commander, in particular, is responsible for the condition and safety of weapons, military equipment and other military property of the company, for maintaining the company economy. The company commander is obliged to organize the timely receipt, proper operation and repair of weapons, military equipment and other military property of the company, to check at least once a month their availability, condition and accounting, to enter the results of the inspection (check) of weapons, military equipment and ammunition in the inspection book (checks) of weapons, military equipment and ammunition.

“If there was a person, there would be an article”

[alexmach]

So why did they abandon equipment, weapons, ammunition during the "regrouping"? Destroy, by order of command

Why? Well, because there was no command order. And it couldn't be. Because the "command" in previous years completely bled the communication systems, and now, during the NMD, it constantly loses control of the troops and cannot physically give any order, and also does not own the current situation "on the ground". What does it have to do with both the offensive and the "regroupings". And without an order to "screw up" the equipment, the performers themselves are no longer ready.

[Postcode]

To destroy, by order of the command (to render unusable for further use even as a donor) is the task of a serviceman who is entrusted with military property.

When did you do it yourself personally or as part of a subordinate unit? Can you tell me the front section?))))

[Serg koma]

Quote from Cap

when was this done?

76 Guards. dshd "regrouping" from Kherson - the destruction of entrusted equipment due to the impossibility of its evacuation. Unfortunately, I can’t “upload” the video here, but you can find it without any problems if you set yourself such a goal. As a result, they didn’t even leave anything for the pan-headed donor. Something like that. By the way, what sector of the front are you on?))))

[tralflot1832]

If there had been an order to blow up the abandoned equipment, this would not have happened.

[Bumblebee_3]

Quote: tralflot1832

If there had been an order to blow up the abandoned equipment, this would not have happened.

And then prove that you were surrounded, that you used up ammunition, ran out of fuel. Or maybe you just got scared and didn’t want to go on the attack? On what basis did you blow up your tank? Well, prove it!
This is me speaking as a bureaucrat.

[Serg koma]

Quote: Bumblebee_3

And then prove that you were surrounded, that you used up ammunition, ran out of fuel.

Threw it away, chickened out, ran away and "with a clear conscience to freedom", "the war will write everything off"?
This is me, as a person with a sense of duty, I argue.

[svp67]

Quote: Pankrat25

Maybe it's time to judge the tankers and their commanders that they are abandoning equipment like that?

I’m afraid that the truth is how and why many of our tanks were left, and you personally won’t like other military equipment at the first stage, but the time has not yet come to talk about this ...

[Woroshilow]

There are a lot of such cases in the Kantemirovskaya and Tamanskaya divisions, and in general, representatives of the military unit from the Moscow region showed themselves very poorly in the NMD at the initial stage. According to information (not official) at the beginning of the operation in February 2022. up to a quarter of the personnel of contract soldiers and junior officers, abandoned their dismissal reports and simply left the territories of military units, once again I repeat the information is not official, but many people confirmed them during 2022.

[svp67]

Quote from Woroshilow

up to a quarter of contract personnel

There, not only in contract soldiers and junior officers, it was a matter ... Well, yes, the time will come and everyone will tell

[Woroshilow]

Well, if you have reliable information, can you still share it? The causes of these events are very important for our society. Otherwise, it will turn out like in the USA, the time to tell the truth to the Americans about the March of the Bonus Army on Washington has come a long time ago, but no one knows exactly what happened, the case materials are still classified as secret in the FBI archives.

[Grits]

Quote from Woroshilow

There are a lot of such cases in the Kantemirovskaya and Tamanskaya divisions, and in general, representatives of the military unit from the Moscow region showed themselves very poorly in the NMD at the initial stage

And what else can you expect from officers who are imprisoned only for parades and window dressing? Personally, I'm not surprised.
I don't understand why throw the whole technique? After all, it’s even more convenient to drape on a tank than on foot.

[Woroshilow]

Well, there the truck flew off the tank, it was immobilized, apparently the Ukrainians were advancing, they couldn’t evacuate the tank, but I can’t understand if this is the situation, you are forced to leave the equipment, throw a grenade into the carousel so that it burns out.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Pankrat25

Maybe it's time to judge the tankers and their commanders that they are abandoning equipment like that? Personally, I have seen videos of Ukrainians with our tanks more than once. I don’t know about the number, but they definitely have more than one thing. And they were lined with crosses on their sides!

Listen, banderlogs also wrote that the Russians stole toilet bowls from their super duper armored battleships, sorry, boats of the Gyurza-M project .. and in general the whole dignity. technique .. Zeleukram believe yourself do not respect.

[Lawrence_OnYouNo]

Quote: Pankrat25

Personally, I have seen videos of Ukrainians with our tanks more than once.

here they uploaded a video with two echelons of captured equipment ... and it was definitely our equipment: T72B3, BTR82A, BMP3, BMD3 ... and others ....
ps
in general, what is on the Internet photo / video proofs with our captured equipment, our broken columns (especially the Belogorovka crossing), our fighters with baofengs ... it's hard to imagine the scale of what is happening ...

[rotmistr60]

The Ukrainian command said that these boards are soldered from consumer electronics supplied to Russia.

After that, the issue of "capturing" tanks can be removed from the agenda.

[alexmach]

After that, the issue of "capturing" tanks can be removed from the agenda

Is it true? Justify why? Do you think that a person who captured a tank cannot talk nonsense about him?
Well, how was it, for example, with the boats and toilets returned to Ukraine, remember, no? According to your logic, it turns out that if they lied about the toilets, then the boats were not returned to Ukraine?

[zan_parti]

Because it makes no sense to believe a person who is delusional.

[alexmach]

Well, as if the statements are confirmed by photographic materials in general.

[seamen2]

I saw an article here about one such tank. Which caterpillar lost and was abandoned by the crew, and later captured by Ukrainians. But only about one thing.

[Nexcom]

It's true. They wrote about one everywhere, and it was about the one who lost the goose.

[PetrovBasharov]

I was especially "inspired by the belief in this information" after digging up the independent Black Sea.

[Nexcom]

On the Internet, a short walks where a sharovny on a blue eye tryndit that there was Svidomo Sigismund 3, the king of Canada, and he gave Siberia to America, because Siberia is not very far from Canada. And then the Russians captured all this villains.

[incognoto]

here you need an understanding that they did not specify in what form they captured it, but I do not exclude that a certain amount was captured during the attack on Kherson, but not 15, there is no such information

[svp67]

Quote from incoggnoto

yes, I do not exclude that a certain number were captured during the attack on Kherson, but not 15, there is no such information

These tanks did not operate there at that time, all the seizures took place in the Kharkov and Ugolgodar directions.
Several T-62M tanks became prey for Ukrainians near Kherson

[constructor_sidorov]

Why post at all?
1 enemy propaganda
2 unconfirmed information
What for?

[B44]

Unfortunately, some of them are confirmed, but in general, so many pieces were mined - a big exaggeration. I'd rather bet on half of what they serve.

[Postcode]

Even if twice as much as they wrote, what difference does it make? Conceptually ..... during the NWO there are already cases when tanks changed hands three times, individual exhibits go around in circles.

[Bodipancher]

I read on some English site that they captured 150 T90 tanks and now Ukraine is the largest operator of this equipment. The publication of such nonsense is part of the information war.

[Mishka78]

Quote: Bodypuncher

they captured 150 T90 tanks

Taking into account the fact that there are about 100 of them in the AFRF.
All such information (what is theirs, what is ours) must be greatly curtailed.
Nowhere do they lie so much as on the hunt for war and before the election (c) is attributed to Bismarck.

[Nexcom]

If they have captured so much, why bother with foreign tanks? They can calmly fight back on our trophies.

[solar]

Would you mind posting a link to this site for others to read?

[voyaka uh]

"I read on some English site that they captured 150 T90 tanks" ///
---
It was a translation from English, where the "translator" multiplied by 10 the correct number 15.

[I dare to_notice_]

Dear Editor!
If this is a lie and "it is impossible to guarantee its veracity"... then why should my brain... uh... occupy it with this?
Okay me! I won't tell anyone.
But they will start quoting you.
True, without the last paragraph ...

[svp67]

The tank has a set of electronic-optical active protection "Shtora".

Well then, this is definitely not about the T-90M ...

[Foul skeptic]

The complex generates an electromagnetic field around the combat vehicle

News in general does not go through the editorial office or what? How can this be written.

[vadimtt]

Well, it is quite possible to attract light to an electromagnetic field, if you wish, you can’t get anywhere with dualism

[Nikolaevich I]

Well, what can I say? Usually weapons are lost most of all during the retreat! But at present, as I understand it, this is not observed for the Russian troops ...

[Grits]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

But at present, as I understand it, this is not observed for the Russian troops ...

We are talking about last year's summer-autumn drape of the "famous" Kantemirovskaya and Tamanskaya divisions from Balakleya and Izyum to Kremennaya and Svatovo itself. The soldiers of the Arbat Military District, armed with the newest Russian tanks, were afraid of encirclement. And they didn’t even try to hit the flank of the advancing group, but simply threw equipment and fled. Moreover, the Ukrainians surrounded them with light armored vehicles and wheeled ones. Like jeeps and other carts.

[Romanenko]

Note that since there is no official confirmation of the information broadcast by the Ukrainian side, it is impossible to guarantee its veracity.

On the other hand, given the predilection of our media and the Ministry of Defense for suppressing negative facts in the interests of maintaining a generally positive attitude, it is also not possible to guarantee the untruthfulness of the pig media.

[Uprun]

Tomorrow they will say that the battle "Armat" was trophied, also discuss the boom?

[Nexcom]

.... and then in Almaty they will find the toilets stolen from the Ukrainians.

[ZAV69]

Dad also has the KGB. They won't even steal a rusty bolt

[75 Sergey]

No, there is definitely one.
Interestingly, did the "reward" find its heroes who abandoned the newest serviceable tank ?!

[moscowp]

I hope no. Although it would be in the spirit of the times when the commanders of all these regroupings and frontal assaults are awarded titles and medals, and the crap tanker Vanka is exponentially imprisoned and made guilty for everything

[alexander 66]

Near Kharkov, exactly 1 t90 in a cape, videos and photos of how they pull are beyond doubt. There are a bunch of photos with abandoned t 62s near Kherson, most likely, by the way, there are a lot and the photos are different. Well, there are also t72s. The question is why are they thrown without burning?

[Ezekiel 25-17]

Ukraine took as a basis the manuals of Dr. Goebbels: "... Rudel destroyed 519 tanks ..." (the data is not confirmed in any way).

[Alexander X]

Svidomo believe, do not respect yourself. Well, publishing their heresy is, well, come up with it yourself ...

[km-21]

Several pieces were captured for sure during the Kharkov "regrouping". This fact is recognized by the Russian side. Unfortunately, the moral and strong-willed training of our tankers was not enough to prevent such a shameful event.

[Mint Gingerbread]

What exactly can be soldered from consumer electronics to be installed on military equipment? They have different specifications in use

[Sergey3]

What exactly can be soldered from consumer electronics to be installed on military equipment? They have different specifications in using laughing

Well, a nameplate, for example, imagine a T-72 tank with a BOSCH nameplate or Pantsir-S1 with an Indesit nameplate, cool

[Horon]

The Ukrainian command stated that these boards are soldered from consumer electronics supplied to Russia.

If "they are soldered from household appliances", then why is it so little? Write 150 and their armor is plywood, what really ...!

[Pravodel]

The Ukrainian side claims to have captured a total of 15 Russian T-90 Proryv tanks

Why then do they need British tanks. Let me organize my offensive with these breakthroughs, maybe they will be able to cross the Dnieper River and reach the Yellow Sea ..

[Tagan]

Quote from invisible_man

A total of 552 captured tanks counted Orix (per year). Of this amount, allegedly 14 pieces of T-90. There are also links to photos and videos, but some of them have questions.

PS I understand that some patriots do not like this information, but such is the price for all these "regroupings". Technicians, unfortunately, because of the stupidity of politicians and military leaders, lost a lot. Even the entire NATO bloc will not give Ukraine that much.

It all depends on the accountant.
You wrote earlier:
Internet warriors have already "captured" a dozen such "leopards". And with psheks, and with pendos, and with blacks, and with whom they just didn’t capture.
So your comment about the 552 tanks is from about the same series. Or is it different?

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Let's wait and see ... Sharovaram - no faith.

[Roma 1977]

According to the experience of communication, I will say that Ukrainian propaganda information should be divided by 10. It turns out one and a half tanks. That is, three pieces, but with varying degrees of damage. Chuyka.

[Rusfaner]

"The strategic command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine reports that Ukrainian formations allegedly managed to capture 15 Russian T-90 Proryv tanks." (With)

You can not trust the newspapers and scouts! The first cannot be refuted, and the second cannot be verified! (With)

[tralmaster]

Well, since the boards are soldered from household appliances, then this is 100% "true."

[Nick2591]

If the T-90 is not structurally very different from the T-72, then let it be another modification of the T-72. Recently, a message slipped through the publications that from 2011 to 2021 (Defense Minister Shoigu) not a single new tank was delivered to military units. Judging by the events on the fronts, it is quite possible.

[Vladimir Dmitrievich Burtsev]

The directive of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation should be on a ban on the transfer of the latest weapons to the enemy and on severe punishment for violating the directive, up to and including criminal punishment. Gerasimov, as always, sleeps on the go.

[border]

What does "transfer" mean? this is when, according to the act "passed-accepted, shortcomings"? Is there an ORDER "Do not leave a crumb of bread, not a drop of fuel" or faulty equipment (and even more so serviceable)? and what will happen to the tank commander, the logistics officer, if he does not correctly assess the situation or the threat to material assets and burn the warehouse, or throw a grenade into the fighting compartment of the BTT? how much will he pay out of his allowance of 150-200 thousand rubles? Has the material responsibility of the military personnel been changed under the conditions of the SVO?

[Sergey3]

Where did you find the latest tanks there? T-90s in hundreds of copies roam around India, and in a better configuration than for their own army.

[donavi49]

Hunting stories, if we are talking about the T-90M - 1 of them was transferred to the brigade. In February, the last time he shone on the transfer of Oshkosh.

And one T-90M, which, according to the classics, took off its shoes and was abandoned. But his fate is unknown.

All. Perhaps if you add the T-90 - including rare ones, such as AK.

Well, in general, active work is underway to raise technology. For example, here are the freshest pictures (the day before yesterday), T-72B3b1-62 . Moreover, if the tower is old + the hull is new, this is understandable, then the plan to put 62-wheel rollers on the first and last is unclear.

[ZhEK-Vodogrey]

Quote: donavi49

And one T-90M, which, according to the classics, took off its shoes and was abandoned. But his fate is unknown.

This T-90M was beaten back from the forest. The battlefield was left to the Russian Army. That's why Khinzirs don't take selfies with him.

Quote: donavi49

the intention to put 62-inch rollers on the first and last is unclear.

Khinzirs have a shortage of rollers. They are forced to grind rollers from the T-62 in order to somehow complete the tanks.

[your1970]

Quote: donavi49

Hunting stories, if we are talking about the T-90M - 1 of them was transferred to the brigade. In February, the last time he shone on the transfer of Oshkosh.

And one T-90M, which, according to the classics, took off its shoes and was abandoned. But his fate is unknown.

All. Perhaps if you add the T-90 - including rare ones, such as AK.

Well, in general, active work is underway to raise technology. For example, here are the freshest pictures (the day before yesterday), T-72B3b1-62 . Moreover, if the tower is old + the hull is new, this is understandable, then the plan to put 62-wheel rollers on the first and last is unclear.

And what kind of gold painted grenade launcher, and even with a battered grenade launcher?
Some kind of monument

[Incvizitor]

To declare, as they say, do not roll bags.

[Soldatov V.]

There are many, few, very few. Is 15 pieces too many or too few?

[Olga Cherdak]

Unfortunately, our tanks and not only tanks were abandoned! When we retreated from Kupyansk, Izyum....I saw the photo!! It was terrible, T90, in the forest with a faulty caterpillar ..

[Skif]

Oh, I also saw that photo. On the hood of that tank it says "T90". And his caterpillar is pierced. So you say, then from Kupyansk?

[Tagan]

Quote: baby bunny

the Ukrainians did not lie about the large tank losses of Russia at Vugledar, because of which the Ministry of Defense of General Muradov was dismissed only the other day ...

Does this somehow prove that the Khokhls are telling the truth and nothing but the truth?

[76SSSR]

The complex generates an electromagnetic field around the combat vehicle

...and, if necessary, is capable of releasing up to ten quasars and pulsars.

[Igorash]

But the fact that they captured at least one known-abandoned crew, presumably from the Taman division. This is already enough to study its strengths and weaknesses (which is already being done by US specialists), and the guilty, up to the commanders, have been brought to a military tribunal ... This loss will still come back to haunt us ..

[Andrey A]

Ukrainians have been reporting the capture of our T-90 "Breakthrough" tanks for a year now, the number of captured tanks in Ukrainian propaganda is growing. - But so far they have not shown a single captured T-90. Although it would seem: such an opportunity for PR ... So fake is all .... If there are no victories, you have to invent them: a common practice ...

[Andrey1966]

"Doctor, and the neighbor says ... So you say." ©

[Hitmaster]

Lie, you bastards! We do not solder anything from household appliances! We put the washing machine on its side, put the wheels from the baby stroller on it, and fasten the tower with the gun to the drum, and on top there is also a microwave oven without a door for jamming! And, yes, and a Chinese telescope instead of a sight !!! (joke)

[agond]

It’s interesting how you can regularly capture tanks and other equipment if the front line has hardly changed for many months, why do they steal it entirely from our rear or take it out in parts on their hands. ...

[cheburator]

We will not see photos and videos. But they must believe under the word of honor xohloin about the payment spionernye from their used toilet bowls and other latrine utensils. What kind of idiots should be considered those whom they feed these tales!

[blackGRAIL]

There is photo / video confirmation (oryx) for only two captured T-90Ms out of a total of 16 vehicles lost.

[Vashek]

Apparently, complete noodles, from capture to performance. Especially cool about the electromagnetic field around the car. I wonder if it glows?

[1 z1]

The military lost a box with 20 F-1 grenades and 20 fuses for them in the Sevsky district of the Bryansk region - it fell out of the car while being transported to the location of the military unit. A vigilant local resident collected and returned five grenades and 10 fuses, the rest was stolen by residents of nearby villages, media write. It doesn't seem to be fake. After lunch, at the posts, all cars are inspected

[Parvis rasulov]

Ukraine has only three T90M Proryv tanks as trophies, one of them is taken wrecked, and several T90A and T90M tanks of the first releases, most likely they just doubled the entire number of T90 tanks they have, and 7 vehicles became 14.
Regarding captured vehicles, they now actually have 25-30 T72B3 tanks in service, a few more are waiting for repairs, several T80BV tanks, again, there are also doubts about T80 tanks, since Ukraine used to have its own T80 and they sometimes give them out as Russian type, they captured or destroyed them.
It is worth giving them their due, their repair and evacuation units work very well in comparison with the Russian army, and their wrecked tanks and vehicles are often evacuated to the rear and tank battalions in the state have tank tractors such as BREM 1 or BTS 4M

[zenion]

What difficulty could there be? They dragged themselves with oxen, took all the tanks and the goy tsabe!

[polynet]

Quote from invisible_man

A total of 552 captured tanks counted Orix (per year). Of this amount, allegedly 14 pieces of T-90. There are also links to photos and videos, but some of them have questions.

PS I understand that some patriots do not like this information, but such is the price for all these "regroupings". Technicians, unfortunately, because of the stupidity of politicians and military leaders, lost a lot. There is a feeling that even the entire NATO bloc will not give Ukraine that much.

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html

this is the purest truth, otherwise it simply cannot be. I sincerely believe

[hump]

Lapin abandoned technology for a year. They even got the reb turned on, which probably pressed the connection on ...

[Sss Sss]

Quote from invisible_man

And I do not argue that there are jambs on this site. Percent 10-15, by eye.

Will you spoil the source of this wisdom with a proof?

Find the video of the defeat of our column near Ugledar. And many attacks ended like this. With the almost complete absence of losses from the enemy. And what about the scorched columns of our equipment in the Kyiv region? And what about the "successful" assault on Kharkov? Open your eyes already, we had a series of DESTRUCTIONS in March-April last year, while the enemy suffered many times less losses. Or do you think that the "goodwill gesture" really happened out of goodwill? Until now, we can’t really recover and we are removing some obsolete rubbish from conservation.

I think you are definitely from Ukraine)). The columns became fixated with this “defeat.” One small victory of Ukraine is praised to the skies, and they do not see a hundred defeats of Ukraine of this kind)).

[hump]

From Ukraine, commanders who, without artillery and suppression of drones, gave the command to die heroically

[nikanikolich]

Well, they forgot, from lieutenants to generals, Afghanistan and Chechnya, just think, it wasn’t their sons who died, they don’t care. Sitting at the peak of Maslow's pyramid, you can afford to destroy the pedestal a little

[odisey3000]

And what the author suggests is to give up right away. Well, let him look at the chronicle of the Great Patriotic War, what happened and what happened. The result will be one: our cause is just, the enemy will be defeated, victory will be ours as soon as the property of the escaped oligarchs is divided in the country and the country’s leadership takes up the operation in Ukraine, While the country's leaders have no time for this, things are getting more serious here.

[Popov I.P.]

There is no war without losses, sometimes very heavy ones, but any Ukrainian data should be safely divided by 2. In total, about 90 T-100M Proryv tanks were produced under three contracts with the Russian Defense Ministry, including those upgraded from the T-90A version. No one can say how many Russian tanks entered Ukraine, but in total there were a little more than 2000 tanks in the Russian Armed Forces (in the SV there were 2 tank divisions and 2 tank brigades, plus tank regiments in the mechanized infantry division and tank battalions in the small infantry regiment; in the Airborne Forces - 1 battalion in the infantry division and 1 company in the infantry brigade, in the Navy - a battalion in the MP brigades, but not all, in the coastal defense brigades of the Black Sea Fleet and the Arctic Northern Fleet). I doubt that they all entered Ukraine; US and NATO satellite intelligence would have trumpeted this with might and main. The days of Prokhorov tank battles and raids by tank armies are long gone. Most sources cite the loss figure for the T-90M as no more than 10 units (10% of the number produced). The figure of 552 captured tanks is also fantastic. Trophies are usually understood as enemy equipment captured in good condition or requiring minor repairs, but not burnt with metal, suitable only for melting down (or for participation in propaganda campaigns in Europe). The logic is simple: if you have 550 captured tanks, on which you can put your crews without any preparation, then why are you hysterically begging from the USA and Europe for 300 tanks, without which Ukraine cannot be defended and you are handed several pieces like beggars (Germany-18, Portugal 3, etc.). There are examples in history of the judicious use of trophies: Mannerheim’s army was provided with more than 50% captured equipment, some samples changed hands twice, during the evacuation of the garrison of the Hanko Peninsula, the railway batteries could not be removed and were blown up, the Finns collected several pieces from the wreckage , and in 1944 we already took it back from them. And one of our tank battalions on captured Tigers entered Berlin. The reasons for the large losses of armored personnel carriers in this conflict; 1. High saturation of enemy troops with modern anti-tank weapons and the use of our tanks at close ranges without taking this factor into account 2. Lack of infantry cover for tanks 3. Insufficient technical training of crews 4. Poor organization of evacuation and field repair of damaged equipment. It’s probably not worth blaming the crews who abandoned equipment that was damaged or left without fuel and ammunition. Remember 1943 in the battles in Ukraine: near Zhitomir, the tank brigade of Lieutenant Colonel D.A. was surrounded. Dragunsky, ammunition and fuel ran out, front commander N.F. Vatutin ordered the tanks to be burned and the tankers to be taken out of the encirclement, VGK I.V. Stalin not only approved this decision, but also ordered the tankers to be rewarded, the brigade received new tanks, subsequently took Berlin and liberated Prague, and Dragoon ended the war twice as a Hero of the Soviet Union (23.09.1944/31.05.1945/XNUMX, XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX).

[hump]

Our tanks hit at a distance, there is no protection from drones

[BorzRio]

The fact that several (at least 2 units) of the Ukrainian Armed Forces were captured is confirmed by trusted sources. About 15 units. debatable. But we will not know the truth unless the Ukrainians put them on display for everyone to see. It is known that one T-90M Proryv was taken to the USA. As for the trophies, more accurate information is that about a hundred of our tanks (these are the LDPR, various volunteer battalions, and the Russian Armed Forces) were captured by IEDs. Moreover, many of them changed hands several times from opponents. This is a war full of mistakes and miscalculations on both sides.

[Pavel57]

One T-90, but not Proryv, was sent to the States.

[Parvis rasulov]

There are three confirmed photographs and videos of captured three T90M Proryv tanks, one of them is partially damaged, judging by the photographs from the exhibition in Kiev and Prague in July 2022, the tank was blown up by a mine, well, part of the front rollers and the caterpillar on the left side is finally missing The tank itself looks partially burnt and rusty. The second T90M Proryv tank, like the first Ukrainians, went to Staraya Saltov in the Kharkov region in May last year, was exhibited at an exhibition in Prague in July and, in my opinion, it was sent to the USA, and their third trophy was an abandoned T90M Proryv tank in the forest in September 2022 near Kharkov, by the way with the Cape system.

[Privet]

She also recaptured a submarine from the Belarusians.

[barbiturate]

Fairy tales, they would have long been shown in a row from all angles, but data from all sorts of enemy sites can be divided by 10 and subtracted by 10 as usual.

[Tim666]

Quote: Peter_Koldunov

More or less sane argumentation is present there (photo, video)

Where? On Oryx??? All Oryx statistics and analytics are based solely on public sources and open resources, from social networks. Unverified, unproven, and where outright fakes are provided as proofs... It is at least incorrect to talk about reliability in this case.
I didn't trust him before... And after your link, I got interested in the beneficiaries and got into a jackass, in whose interests this site was created. It turned out that this resource was created and maintained by people from Bellingcat ... in principle, you can say nothing further, but then it’s even more interesting: and he prepares materials for the most garbage media on earth - WSJ, BBC, Deutsche Welle, CNN and etc.

In principle, of course, you can continue to believe that Russia lost 79 aircraft, and Ukraine 57. (Look what aces are there! Just after one - the ghosts of Kiev!)
And Ukraine also destroyed 11 Black Sea Fleet ships...
And also - Russia dressed in the uniform of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, painted the equipment in the colors of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and shot Donbass (until February 24) ...
And yet - Russia staged terrorist attacks in the Czech Republic and Bulgaria ...
There is also this nonsense posted.

In general, in terms of hosted content, this is just the Dutch division of Bellingcat. Garbage from garbage cans. And why are they not a foreign agent? I think, simply because our people somehow overlooked this information trash can.

Well, some people find it easier to believe the KGB Combat Psychic, because it is more accurate than video metadata, etc.

[Osiris]

Anything can happen in war, including unfortunate losses. Of course, the fact of the loss of 15 T-90 tanks needs to be investigated - confirmed or refuted and conclusions drawn. What else I would like to draw the attention of our audience to is the trust of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and Zelensky on the part of NATO and the West and, as a result, the huge financial and military support for Ukraine. Without these front-line “successes,” this financial waterfall would have been closed long ago! Shoigu’s department shines in parades, but not at the front - that’s a fact - hence the transition to trench warfare without much success. ....

[FRoman1984]

Most likely, this means all modifications of the tank, in particular the T-90A.
Only one T-90M is known for sure. But not more.

[AlexWar]

The Ukrainian press cannot be trusted, they are lying. If they hit something there, they’ll film it, where are these 15 tanks? Apparently they went through the documents. They climbed out of the burned-out tanks to look at the microcircuits; the microcircuit itself without software would be just rubbish, it was made from some and will be replaced by others. What's the problem?
They think that they will stop making tanks here, they are dismantling tanks for spare parts to find manufacturers and put pressure on sick calluses
The only weakness of Russia is that we produced everything technologically advanced in small quantities, but we still have insufficient quantities of everything.

[YES UZH]

counted everything, real, undermined, inflatable and fictitious

[Seryoga Nemuslim]

One was definitely captured, the rest are a big question. Although that side is one complete lie.

[hump]

So they fight because they surrendered everything they didn’t get in Kharkov under Lapin

[Repellent]

Quote: Tiksi-3

then why post this information here? for what purpose?

Hype. Clicks. Babosiki. Capitalism is in the yard, please...

[art having]

Is it weak to show?
I know about one for sure, the rest are wet fantasies?

[Tim666]

Quote: Fitter65

Quote: Lawrence_NaVasNo

to doubt the captured T90Ms, only a blind / deaf / dumb person can doubt .... there was a video with the capture of SIX T90Ms after the retreat in the Kharkov region ... brand new, stood in a row ... without any damage at all ...

And all with microcircuits from washing machines ... And why only 6, and the remaining 9 where did they go. Well, I googled your crossing near Yelogorovka. Well, there is one burned-out T-90 and another burned-out T-72, I honestly am not strong in tanks. And now, for 7 minutes 40 seconds, these two tanks are filmed from different sides, and the distance between them .. The concept of 6 brand new ones in a row does not roll, rather, these are the next two regiments of Pe-2, which the anti-aircraft gunners of the Armed Forces of Ukraine shot down in half an hour.

Yes, yes, yes, and there are no losses at all)))

[Sinner]

How can you leave a tank to the enemy? Is it difficult to throw a grenade down a hatch?

[flicker]

that since there is no official confirmation of the information broadcast by the Ukrainian side, it is impossible to guarantee its veracity.

So that's not the main thing.
The main thing is to throw it into the public media field, and then at least 10% will believe it.
--
The usual stuff from an “Israeli patriot”.

[storm]

It would seem much easier to collect all 15 T-90s and photograph them from different angles, rather than scratching them with your tongue without evidence...
On the other hand, every tank or infantry fighting vehicle left to the enemy must be judged. During the investigation, it is necessary to find out all the reasons why combat-ready vehicles went to the enemy....

[polar bear]

One tank, yes, they showed it. But only one. If they had captured 15, they would have made a show of it for the whole world! But this is not the case. There are simply lies on which the entire Zelensky regime rests, just like Hitler’s regime did in its time.

[nikanikolich]

"Quarter 95" you can feel the screenwriter's hand. I'm just laughing stupidly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Berg berg]

In this way, I can declare that I have already captured 10 Leopards - 2 from Ukraine and provide their tactical and technical data from the reference book. All captured tanks are on the rogue's barrel!

[AlexWar]

Personally, I don’t believe this data; they could have photographed the tanks anywhere.
Ukrainians talk about more than 500 tanks, so where are they? Maybe these were broken tanks abandoned during the retreat.
In theory, Russia could lose up to 500 tanks, so tanks are now being restored en masse
It is doubtful that ready-made tanks were thrown to them; all these tanks required repairs and in the video most of the tanks of the Ukrainian Armed Forces are shown broken. And how many tanks do they have left that they are asking from the West? Lately there has been little information about damaged tanks.
Summary for today and yesterday: almost no tanks. Apparently the Ukrainian Armed Forces have run out of them
There is not a single video proving that the Ukrainian Armed Forces have T-90s, these were most likely destroyed tanks
Well, in general, it’s time to make tanks with self-burning equipment if you entered the code incorrectly

[PC]

I believe that we are talking about lost tanks for the entire 2022 year. Or maybe about all the lost equipment.

[Skif]

It's kind of weak. Not in an arresting way. What 15 are there?! 150! More precisely, 152. Storytellers in Ukraine 100 years into the future.

[PC]

Indeed, why exactly fifteen? They would have already written -100500.

[Muromczev-2015]

They may have captured the tanks (most likely, they were knocked out). But, about microcircuits, this is just another nonsense, from the category of “Russians are stealing toilets.” There are still idiots there who think that there is a shortage of toilets in Russia, and Russians do not have enough money to buy them. We have always produced our own microcircuits for the military industry! Somehow you can believe that there is a shortage of microcircuits for airplanes, but for tanks this is absurd...

[AndreyKa54076]

With such a war, it is not surprising that we are giving away equipment that will kill our guys!

[anclevalico]

The price of regroupings. I wonder if at least one commander was responsible for equipment abandoned in full service?

[cooper]

But doesn’t the Russian leadership want to finally firmly stop all the ways / means of delivering Western weapons to the Ukroreich? How long??

[odisey3000]

Well, you can say whatever you want. Goebbels also leveled the front line and leveled it to the point that he committed suicide in a bunker in Berlin.

[Lena Petrova]

Quote: IgorIP

Territories from which Russian troops fled

Please choose your words. The order came and the area was abandoned.

[kriten]

No confirmation. Probably, if ours had announced our losses in equipment somewhere, we would have had to fire the entire leadership of the Ministry of Defense...

[tezey]

You can declare anything. If this were in reality, then these tanks would be shown in Kyiv and the entire command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine would be photographed against their background along with happy Zelensky. So far, I personally have seen more or less reliable photographs of only one abandoned T-90 with a damaged chassis during the offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces near Kharkov.

[macgyver]

Why 15 and not 100500? What difference does it make how much you lie, without at least photo and video confirmation?... To believe Ukrainian propaganda, which is confusing with jars of “Caliber” cucumbers, is to disrespect yourself!

[dfk-80]

The very fact that the best samples were captured in good working order is very bad. And it doesn’t matter that the T-90s were captured not by 15, but by 5. Even if only 1 is serviceable in a cape and 3 are broken down. A tank that has not burned down can already be restored from several.
Although this is SVO...

[Van_Helsing]

Why are they begging in the West, they immediately ran out? If only we could send new ones to fight back, otherwise give us Leopards, give us Challengers, and, of course, if you don’t mind, then give us Abrams too