British edition: Losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Bakhmut range from one hundred to two hundred troops per day

The Ukrainian army daily loses from XNUMX to XNUMX soldiers in the battles for Bakhmut, heavy losses call into question the need to defend this city, writes the British newspaper The Sunday Times.

The Armed Forces of Ukraine suffer heavy losses in the battles for Bakhmut, the Ukrainian army loses from 100 to 200 personnel per day, which may force the command to decide to leave the city. According to Western analysts, Kyiv needs to make the final decision as much as possible on the withdrawal of troops to prepared positions in Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, or continue to hold Bakhmut at any cost, losing personnel in urban battles.

At the same time, the West has repeatedly stated that Bakhmut has no strategic significance and it is completely incomprehensible why the decision to withdraw troops has not yet been made. Kiev's statement that when leaving Bakhmut, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will have to defend other cities does not stand up to criticism, since it will still have to be done, but with smaller forces, putting all the reserves in battle.

German intelligence came to the same conclusion regarding the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Bakhmut, but a little earlier. At the end of January, the Germans warned Kyiv that with the losses of more than a hundred people a day in only one city, there would not be enough reserves for the planned counteroffensives. According to Ukrainian sources, in Bakhmut itself and in its vicinity, the Armed Forces of Ukraine lost half of the military trained in the West, who were supposed to form the backbone of a new offensive.

At the same time, Zelensky rested, and the commander of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Syrsky, who dreamed of trying on the shoulder straps of the commander-in-chief, managed to convince the clown that it was quite possible to recapture the city from the Wagner PMC, it was only necessary to gather more forces. As a result, the general received carte blanche for any actions and now throws more and more forces into the "Bakhmut meat grinder".

Comments

[Grandfather Fichteau]

Correcting Khrushchev's mistakes, according to Sudoplatov!
The tactics are monstrous, but there is no other way with the traitors of the Russian and Orthodox world .. Just wet
And then Allah will understand

[Boris Ivanov]

I think the Anglo-Saxons could not imagine this even in a dream. With what frenzy the Russian kills the Russian!
They are certainly happy that they did it.

[rotkiv04]

also of this opinion, and the main thing is that the Anglo-Saxons have ALREADY completed this main task of theirs, even regardless of the outcome of the confrontation

[MBRSS]

Half of the task was completed for sure! Or rather, 2 tasks: 1) to thin out the most able-bodied population, 2) to weaken economically as much as possible. Moreover, on the second point, the European Union will suffer at the same time, as a bonus, so to speak.
We must recognize the unprecedented success of the Anglo-Saxons. And I'm afraid they won't get anything for it.

[Grandfather Fichteau]

Quote: Boris Ivanov

I think the Anglo-Saxons could not imagine this even in a dream. With what frenzy the Russian kills the Russian!
They are certainly happy that they did it.

So far they are happy, but they can all be presented with this soon .. It’s already real And then they won’t get out .. That's the main thing !!!

[View from the outside]

"With what frenzy a Russian kills a Russian!" - not quite so. They are not Russian. Genetically, yes, they are almost the same, but there is a lot from the Steppe - in particular, bestial cruelty. And in terms of psychology, which is more important, they are degenerate Russians - zombies, ghouls that eat people. They do not feel sorry for themselves, or me, or cities that can be saved simply by leaving. Like Paris. And more about "brothers" - sometimes the most cruel enemies are close ones: like the Japanese and Chinese, whom the former massacred by tens of millions. Or like the first (!) Brothers on Earth, Cain and Abel. They did not join hands to work the land together. No. And this parable was told to us by the great book of the Bible (for me, a non-religious person who had to study it by virtue of his profession, this is just a literary monument) for a reason!

[MBRSS]

And in terms of psychology, which is more important, they are degenerate Russians - zombies, ghouls that eat people.

The CIA applauds you! And plus! )))

[Sarmat Sanych]

I like to set fire to the fifth points of whiners-guardpatriots)))
Go. First, a quote from memory from the canon scene about the duel between Miyamoto Musashi and Sasuke Kajiro:
“You have already lost. You threw the sheath of your sword into the water because you are not going to return it to the sheath."
In Ukraine, the number of universities and secondary schools is being reduced to a minuscule. For they understand that this territory has no future (Russia opened new schools and institutions even at the height of the Civil War, because it believed in its victory).
Is the hint clear?
Without education, the country has no future. Ukraine, in any case, has no future (even in the case of a ghostly hypothetical victory in the minds of a sluggish transatlantic chichimon Tarasik should be stupid and trained only in the most primitive labor, which, as for me, is tantamount to defeat).
Now to the present.
First, a short video from the front line:
https://youtu.be/EbC_nWAwfWc
Four "boxes" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are trying to advance across the bare field, two of them are destroyed, one is hit, the rest retreats randomly.
Why did you choose this one out of thousands of videos? Because it is template, standard. APU makes several such “attacks” per day. Sometimes with the support of 2 tanks, sometimes the number of armored personnel carriers is up to 8-10, but the general plot is unchanged - they are discovered, shot from afar, the survivors retreat.
Day after day, several such template plots. If you carefully read the “stingy and boring” MO reports, you will understand that the picture is exactly like that in fact. Numerous videos confirm this.
This bullshit with "flying over open areas until they shoot" is called "highly maneuverable warfare" in American doctrinal documents. Against a regular army that has built a solid front, it does not work from the word at all. But the Americans (and NATO as a whole) simply do not know how to do anything else - due to the lack of experience in clashes with the regular army of other countries (do you need to explain why a lonely, semi-defenseless Iraq, bled dry before the war, is not considered?).
That is, the lion's share of the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine occurs without contact with the enemy at all. They don't even see who is destroying them and from where.
The only exception is the actions of assault squads in places like Artemovsk. But even there, attack aircraft go forward after being “softened” by artillery preparation with an advantage in shells per day by 5-10 times (whatever Prigozhin throws at the public, experts will understand).
Meanwhile, clowns from the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense declare that "in a year, all Russian marines were killed 8 times."
When I ask what game they are in, they get offended, swear a lot and dirty, but they don’t answer the question. Apparently it's classified information.
Chubate Goebbels continue to feed their supporters with extremely miserable lies (domestic hysterics-multimillionaires-military Ukurs are similar). In particular, with fairy tales that "tanks are running out in Russia and T-54s are being sent to the front."
For your information. According to British sources, one UVZ last year produced more than 20 new T-90M Proryv-3 tanks per month and upgraded at least 80 more tanks of previous models. That is, more than 1200 new and modernized tanks over the past year. In 2023, the Russian tank industry and the military-industrial complex as a whole undoubtedly increased volumes even more seriously.
Comrade Martyanov from the United States (who wrote an analyst for the Pentagon "fink tanks" years before, also a dozen books on the subject) calls the number of tanks produced in Russia over the past year at 1500 (UVZ is not the only tank plant in Russia, if that). And he says that ~ 3000 tanks will be produced in this.
So, it is more likely that Taras and Mykola will run out in Ukraine and Zero shells will remain in NATO than "tanks will run out" in Russia.
But, of course, one must believe Arestovich and other Podlyaks. That's right tomorrow the tanks will end, oga.
March 23, by the way, was the anniversary of how the BBC wrote that the Russian army had run out of shells and food. And for a year now, hungry Russians have been fighting with sapper shovels.
How was it there? The news “look, Russia is falling apart” Svidomo slave and domestic guard patriot can be deceived up to 600 times a day.
From Putin's speech.
1. Consumption of Ukraine per day up to 5 thousand shells. The current hyped production in the USA per month (!) 14-15 thousand. That is, for three days for the Armed Forces of Ukraine & mercenaries.
2. NATO will deliver up to 2023 tanks to Ukraine in 400 (in reality, according to detailed calculations, less than 300, well, let them amuse themselves, let's not argue). Russia will produce 1600 tanks (Martyanov believes that much more, while Vladimir Vladimirovich is "modest").
I’ll add on my own that Reznikov demanded from Europe 250 thousand shells per month, but there are simply no such astronomical numbers for the EU in Europe.
she also wrote down an appeal, where she cried that they didn’t give planes, there weren’t enough tanks, they didn’t give shells, and so on. Although everything is predictable here: if you see Zelensky, now he will lie and beg.
In general, the terrible “offensive” that they have been trying to scare us with since the fall is constantly being postponed indefinitely. Midnight is approaching, but there is still no advance ...
By the way, the Ukrainian air defense, despite being strengthened by NATO supplies and thousands of satellite and AWACS constellations, ceased to exist as a single system. If earlier missile-drone raids were massive, overwhelming the capabilities of the UkroAir Defense to intercept, now they are being targeted as needed, without bothering. Yes, and aviation is working more actively (at the same time, air raids in Ukraine are almost continuous, and the Ukrainian Defense Ministry somehow calmed down with victorious reports about “shot down 100 out of 10”, dejectedly).
I watched more Western experts, whinnied. They say that the Kiev regime constantly says “we will attack here, we will attack there”, and the Russian army at least said a word about its plans ... Aha, shchaz! Ours are not forelock tebils, in order to spread their plans in open access.
Although in fact there is an impression that there will be no "offensive". Or it will be, but such a shameful zilch that it would be better not to even try.
Meanwhile, experts are arguing about how many APU warriors are sitting in the boiler in Artyomovsk. Some call numbers in the 15-20 thousand. Previously, they called less, but now they say there is more accurate information. Another pocket is brewing in the Avdeevka area, plus 3-5 operational encirclements are planned in other areas of the front.
All experts agree that the APU is rapidly declining cohesion. What does that mean? That the front can crumble at any moment. In very unexpected places.
The mood of the Americans somehow changed dramatically. Then they squealed "no truce, no Chinese peace plan." And just a couple of days later, the same Blinken, who had previously raved that “the truce is contrary to the UN charter” (SHIELD?!), is already declaring in Congress “If we see at least some signs that Russia is aimed at constructive diplomacy and is ready to it, in order to put an end to aggression, we will pounce on this opportunity.
What about the UN charter? And what happened?
Macron, by the way, greetings from 3,5 million protesters. They wanted a "change mode" in Russia, but there will be a saying about "do not dig a hole for others."
Although, to be honest, I'm more waiting for the Democrats to still arrest Trump. I really want it, popcorn sours ...

[Urs]

You speak well dear . But I agree, the main thing is intelligibly

[MBRSS]

So, it is more likely that Taras and Mykola will run out in Ukraine and Zero shells will remain in NATO than "tanks will run out" in Russia.

I'm afraid that when Ukrainians run out, Psheko-Ukrainians, Arab-Ukrainians, Afro-Ukrainians will go into battle ... Although not a fact, but it is quite possible.
And further. You are counting the number of tanks here, but you don’t think that each tank is 3-4 crew members plus ten servants. Dozens and hundreds of our people die every day (that they have more, somehow does not excite me, you know). Plus, our territory turns into ruins and a "lunar landscape". I'm afraid that there will be no forces or funds even for clearing the rubble, not to mention some kind of restoration of the infrastructure. And time is working against us, which is the worst. I see no reason to rejoice, sorry.
And if "popcorn turns sour" - go Donbass to restore. (okay, just kidding)

[Zakirov Damir]

Quote: Boris Ivanov

I think the Anglo-Saxons could not imagine this even in a dream. With what frenzy the Russian kills the Russian!
They are certainly happy that they did it.

The British launched the process of cleansing the "Russian world" from filth - "Better less but better!" Do you know such a saying?

So, "Whatever is done, everything is for the best!" - Another saying on the topic.

[carpenter]

Quote: Boris Ivanov

I think the Anglo-Saxons could not imagine this even in a dream. With what frenzy the Russian kills the Russian!

During the Civil War in Russia of 1917-1922, Russians killed Russians no less cruelly, when a son went to his father, brother to brother, not only Russian to Ukrainian, Ukrainian to Belarusian. Yes, and during the Second World War, the brother of the policeman handed over to the Germans not even the brother of the partisan.

[MBRSS]

During the Russian Civil War of 1917–1922, Russians killed Russians no less brutally...

And what, is it normal? This has been going around with us for over a hundred years. Until now, the "reds" are not friends with the "whites", which negatively affects society. It saves only that there are much more "red")))

[smart ass]

Unfortunately, mathematics suggests that in this way Ukraine will have to be defeated for decades

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

math means nothing
from Moscow to Brest two and a half years (900 km)
from Brest to Berlin a year (700 km)

[WFP]

And if so:
- On August 31, 1943, Saur-Mogila was liberated.
- On September 5, 1943, Gorlovka and Artemovsk were liberated.
- On September 8, 1943, Stalino (Donetsk) was liberated.
- On September 22, the Reich troops were driven back beyond the Dnieper in the Dnepropetrovsk-Zaporozhye section.
If you count in kilometers - about 300 km. Less than a month.

[Evgeny]

If not something, I don’t confuse, the Red Army liberated Ukraine during the year with greater losses than the Wehrmacht ....

[Urs]

I still think the comparison is not correct, and the number is not the same and the war is not there, however

[MBRSS]

Vasilenko Vladimir and how many kilometers from Donetsk to Bakhmut (for half a year, when the Armed Forces of Ukraine came to their senses after the first blow and began to receive help from the West)?

[YanniKounnar]

Avec 100/200 morts par jour pour une seule ville, c'est en moyenne 54750morts par an et sans doute au moins autant de blessés incapables de reprendre le combat . Soit 109500 soldats hors combat par an pour UNE seule ville ...je doute qu'il y en ai pour "des décennies" ...

With 100/200 deaths per day for one city, that's an average of 54750 deaths per year and probably at least as many wounded, unable to resume fighting. This is 109500 non-combat soldiers per year for ONE city ... I doubt that there are for "decades" ...

[smart ass]

In ten years they will lose a million, everything is as I said. Mobilization reserve ukrov - + mercenaries from around the world 2-3.5 million soldiers

[YanniKounnar]

Vous semblez ne pas comprendre que:
- 1000000 sur 10 ans ce ne serait que pour UNE SEULE ville
- 10 ans cela ne fait pas (comme vous l'aviezécrit) DES décennies... DES décennies cela commence à partir de 20 ans :-)...

Donc combien de fois plus de morts et de blessés définitifs (plus apte à combattre) sur les centaines de kilomètres de front 2 ? 3? 4 fois plus?
Même en partant de l'hypothèse de "seulement" 2 fois plus ce serait au "mieux" 4 ans et 7 mois...soit , quoi que vous écriviez très loin de "DES décennies" .
Même si, de mon point de vue, le plus important n'est pas la durée de cette guerre mais plutôt le minimum de pertes humaines parmi les troupes Russes.
Envoyer des marées humaines dans des assauts meurtrier, même si cela permet de gagner plus rapidement, c'est une erreur.
La France a souvent ce genre d'erreur ...en 14/18 27000 morts Français en UNE seule journée !


You don't seem to understand that:
- 1000000 for 10 years would be for only one city
- 10 years is not (as you wrote) decades... decades that start at 20 :-)...

So, how many times more dead and wounded (more combat-ready) on the front with a length of 2 kilometers? 3? 4 times more?
Even if we proceed from the assumption that "only" is 2 times more, in the "best case" it will be 4 years and 7 months ... that is, no matter what you write, this is very far from "decades".
Although, from my point of view, the most important thing is not the duration of this war, but the minimum human losses among the Russian troops.
Sending human torrents into deadly attacks, even if it helps them win faster, is a mistake.
France often made similar mistakes ... in 14/18, 27000 Frenchmen died in one day!

[Grandfather Fichteau]

Quote: Clever man

Unfortunately, mathematics suggests that in this way Ukraine will have to be defeated for decades

Hope for it? Well, well .. Here you need to deal with people like you here. And then, in a month, EVERYTHING can be solved by the Russians.
There are a lot of whiners and traitors .. Here is the main problem of Russia and NWO !!!

[smart ass]

I'm a realist, not a whiner. If you want good news Russia 24, turn it on and eat

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Clever man

Unfortunately, mathematics suggests that in this way Ukraine will have to be defeated for decades

It depends on what source data to use for the conditions of the problem. Mathematics loves precision. You take the total population of pre-war Ukraine, but with the beginning of the SVO, a good part of it left for the zabugorsk region (according to various estimates, from 8 to 10 million), and the rest consists not only of people of military age, but also of women, children and old people who cannot be considered as a mobile resource. The best mobilization "age potential" is knocked out at the initial stage of military operations, and then this resource is qualitatively reduced. If we estimate roughly, then in the Russian Federation the human resource is 150 million, and in Ukraine 50 million, i.e. 3:1 ratio According to some reports, there are now 25-30 million people left in Ukraine, respectively, and the ratio is somewhere around 6 (5): 1, which Banderlogs can no longer even out even with the involvement of mercenaries. At the same time, it is necessary to take into account the fact that if Russia has used no more than 20-25% of its potential in the NMD, then Ukraine is already on the verge of the possible and without external financial and military support it will not be able to hold out for how long. And external support, as the history of relations with mattresses shows, is not a constant value.

[Guran33 Sergey]

The avatar "smart guy" was very sharply liberal on F/F, but after the well-known article of the Criminal Code it became empty there, but here, maybe someone else is shining, but the card and the direction of thoughts from there

[smart ass]

Live the life of wonderful people?!))))))

[carpenter]

Quote: Clever man

Unfortunately, mathematics suggests that in this way Ukraine will have to be defeated for decades

Well, over the decades of the war, there will be as much population in Ukraine as it was in 1654, when after the Pereyaslav Act all adult men were registered. it's about one million. This figure refers not only to the Left Bank, but to the entire territory that was under the rule of Bogdan Khmelnitsky in January-February 1654. Then the Right Bank went to Poland and the number of the reunited population naturally decreased.
All the rest will scatter (the female population is now many times larger in the west than the male). They are nimble baboons, they quickly pick up men in their hands, I have forty men at work, three have already married refugees, and they even have children. My friend, who is divorced, took a woman from Sumy to him, but did not marry, but he needs a mistress in the house, to wash, clean, cook dinner, maintain a garden.

[dmi.pris1]

According to Sudoplatov, it would be if all this camarilla skerry through the basements and Europe. Methodically "scattering their brains" from bullets and Kyiv sweets.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Grandfather Pikhto

there is no other way with the traitors of the Russian and Orthodox world ..

And then Allah will understand

Recalled

We sit in the cellar, upstairs fight. We hear: "Allah Akbar!"
Thank God the Russians have come!...

But seriously, it’s not enough for them that they don’t have their own opinion, but they follow American orders, which will definitely bring Ukraine to the zugunder. So also personal ambitions, internal squabbling for little stripes will finally finish.

[Denis812]

If the Armed Forces of Ukraine throw 80K people there, then Bakhmut will be taken away without any problems.
It will be a very interesting situation, since Prigozhin said that Wagner does not leave us with the items he took.
It turns out lying. Which hasn't been caught yet.

[UAZ 452]

Formally, he won’t lie, since Bakhmut has not yet been completely taken.

[Denis812]

Oh well, not formally taken, you're right :)

[topol717]

Quote: Denis812

If the Armed Forces of Ukraine throw 80K people there, then Bakhmut will be taken away without any problems.

This will be the biggest stupidity from the APU. For on such a small section of the front there will be simply terrible losses. Roughly, if now 1 projectile takes 1 fighter of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, then there will be 1 projectile - 4 fighters.

[Denis812]

Having swept away Wagner, they will go out into the open, where there are no units behind PMCs. Breakthrough 20-40 kilometers.
Great target for the APU. Not only will they destroy the best parts, they will also organize a breakthrough.
There is no need to dream of a better outcome of the Bakhmut battle.

[voice of reason]

calm down, eat fat, temper your fantasies. How do you know what is behind the Wagners, on the side and below and everywhere? Now you just came up with it yourself, about the trouble-free offensive of 80 thousand. And I'll tell you that the Wagner will be disposed of without any problems by all these 80 thousand in parts and the Ukrobander warriors will only be able to go to hell to Bandera, where they belong. Remember, since the First World War, the number does not solve anything. Perhaps the drug addict zelebobik will be able to prepare such a group, but she will never be able to break through Artyomovsk and Soledar at all. Here is such an axiom.

[Denis812]

Here you are great.
But for some reason Prigozhin did not voice the presence of people behind the Wagners. He said about 80 thousand in front of them and that's it. And Prigozhin does not share your optimism in terms of the disposal of 80K ukrotroops.

Salo, by the way, I have not eaten since childhood. I do not like. Like red fish and caviar.

[voice of reason]

I understand. I am very patient. BUT. Not in any feverish delirium and fright in any of Prigozhin's interviews was there any talk of the presence or absence of forces and means of the RF Armed Forces BEHIND the positions of the Wagners. I understand that the former Ukraine may have its own interpretation. But you can't argue against facts. It was about interaction on the LBS and covering the flanks. Learn the materiel, so to speak. And then you will sit in a puddle with an attempt to throw. And as for optimism in terms of recycling, so you are "lied" for the second time if you turn to Russian literary classics. After all, it was Prigozhin who voiced the exit to the Dnieper River and to Kyiv. Moreover, even by the forces of the Wagner PMC, the only question is the timing, and he NEVER voiced confidence in his ability to go there and there. So do not distort live, all moves are recorded. Here is such a noble troll Prigogine. He admits that the ukrovoyaks are persistent and stubborn and fight desperately and it’s not easy to fight them. But at the same time, it definitely means that PMC Wagner will make them despite all this. And despite the imperfection of interaction (to put it mildly) with the Russian Defense Ministry and despite the technical difficulties and in general, no matter what.

[invisible_man]

Remember, since the First World War, the number does not solve anything.

Solves, just not always in case of simultaneous input. For it is better with reserves than without reserves. If we had mobilized 1 million a year ago, we would not have had to retreat and convulsively plug holes in the defense.

[Bolt cutter]

Wagner they will go out into the open

How much will they lose on their own?

[Denis812]

if 80K soldiers enter Artemovsk, then there will be nothing left of the Wagner.
The minusers can downvote me however they want, but you can't hide from the truth.

The only option is that the Russian Federation is concentrating a pack of troops near Bakhmut. Then yes, maybe there will be another battle for Bakhmut.
But if there are no reserves under Bakhmut, then the Wagners will not survive.

[Horon]

if 80K soldiers enter Artemovsk, then there will be nothing left of the Wagner.

Yes, but what percentage of these 80 thousand will remain combat-ready after that?

But if there are no reserves under Bakhmut, then the Wagners will not survive.

That is, you don’t have information about the presence or absence of reserves, but have you already made appocaptic conclusions?

[private person]

Having swept away Wagner, they will go out into the open, where there are no units behind PMCs.

Well, in order to disperse the forces, it is necessary to encircle and bring in quite a few troops into Artyomovsk, and this is fraught with monstrous losses of both the Wagners and somehow. It will be difficult to advance further. "Wagners" will fight to the last.

[Horon]

Having swept away Wagner, they will go out into the open, where there are no units behind PMCs.

Strategist! Apparently, Shoigu himself reports to you about the organization of defensive lines.

[private person]

It turns out lying. Which hasn't been caught yet.

And what did they catch? Can be more ? So he doesn’t hide that the situation with the Wagners may not change for the better if they somehow trample on them in a counteroffensive and our RF Armed Forces do not come to the rescue.

[Sergey3]

If the Armed Forces of Ukraine throw 80K people there, then Bakhmut will be taken away without any problems.
It will be a very interesting situation, since Prigozhin said that Wagner does not leave us with the items he took.
It turns out lying. Which hasn't been caught yet.

Now they are already waiting. Bakhmut is destroyed to the ground, so you can not stand on ceremony and throw 1,5 ton bombs.

[Urs]

Oh oh, just don’t catch Mr. Prigogine on something fraught with loss of head.
And 80k kamikaze drug addicts still need to be found and collected in one heap, and then ask the survivors whether he lied or not

[carpenter]

Quote: Denis812

If the Armed Forces of Ukraine throw 80K people there, then Bakhmut will be taken away without any problems.

Well, this army does not pull far from people, and it will die without problems, you can be sure of this. It will be a pain for mothers and children, and for the clown's ruling clique, just a job done for the master.

[UAZ 452]

The Armed Forces of Ukraine suffer heavy losses in the battles for Bakhmut, the Ukrainian army loses from 100 to 200 personnel per day

Are these total losses, including sanitary ones, or only irretrievable ones? If they are common, then Wagner is unlikely to lose less, perhaps more.

[sanja.grw]

They don’t go head-on, downloaded reconnaissance works, they open places, and then Arta works there, and then attack aircraft come to clean up

[NDR-791]

Quote: UAZ 452

Are these total losses, including sanitary ones, or only irretrievable ones?

Sanitary much "tension". So if they are sanitary, then we are only better, and worse for them. And the photo for the article is completely correct - "Bakhmut loves extremely ... and will" fall in love "to death." In general, the absence of l / s is due to its drip pulling up. What we see. We eat a big elephant piece by piece, it will end, the concept of infinity is valid only for mathematics and for space

[Sergey3]

For that, the most frostbitten on the head in the world will become much less.

[voyaka uh]

These are total losses, including lightly wounded, who are then returned to duty.
About the same losses and Wagner in Artemovsk.

[svp67]

Quote: UAZ 452

If they are common, then Wagner is unlikely to lose less, perhaps more.

In less than two months, 86 people were buried at the place where "orchestras" who lost contact with their relatives are buried in the Sverdlovsk region. This site is open for burial in early February...

[The collective farm is voluntary.]

By the way, for a long time the Ministry of Defense did not publish data on our losses. They used to be without taking into account the LDNR, cops and musicians. And now they've disappeared altogether.

[Urs]

And what will the presence of the given numbers give you. I don't think the feeling of satisfaction
Nobody needs these numbers now.

[Vladimir-78]

We would have more such ukrogeneralov. And we repeat the city of Grozny. "Launch the next." And on the firing points.

[boris ivanov]

War to the last Orthodox warrior .. alas, they are on both sides. I blame our authorities, who missed the situation with the fraternal people, in the pursuit of profit!
A holy place, it is never empty! For 30 years, leaving one on one with the Anglo-Saxons does not pass without a trace! We are reaping today.

[sagitovich]

Moreover, as it was announced earlier, from the regions where the Russian-speaking population lives mainly.
Bitterly, from the realization that the main part of Bendera, nevertheless sits out somewhere in the depths.

[coinsam]

The data of "British intelligence", "German intelligence" are the figures that the leadership of the Armed Forces of Ukraine actually officially announces to the military representatives of Britain and Germany. These intelligence agencies in the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not have any "own" agents, they have "partnership" relations, and therefore they simply voice those figures that the Armed Forces of Ukraine considered both "realistic" and "acceptable".

[Bolt cutter]

These intelligence agencies in the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not have "their" agents

And what about "volunteers", volunteers of all stripes, journalists? And listening to the conversations of "refugees" with those who did not manage to escape?

[NDR-791]

Quote from monetam

The data of "British intelligence", "German intelligence" are the figures that the leadership of the Armed Forces of Ukraine actually officially announces to the military representatives of Britain and Germany.

I think that there are also figures "gone to the left" are present. Maybe someone from intelligence has earned. But it's all "of course". If it went to the left, then it's easier for us

[igorbrsv]

Watching who to believe. I trust mine more. Yes, Wagner would have ended by now, and would not have advanced with such losses

[Bolt cutter]

the same media wrote that the losses in Bakhmut were 1 to 5, not in our favor.

The first couple of months of the BBC, hundreds of Russian helicopters were shot down, and tanks were burned by the thousands. In a day . If you do not look at their own map (it was later removed), then it was thought that dill on the outskirts of Moscow .

[NDR-791]

Quote: Bolt Cutter

The first couple of months of the BBC, hundreds of Russian helicopters were shot down, and tanks were burned by the thousands.

Yes, judging by the reaction (erection), it's time to babash at the substations, otherwise, judging by the erection, it worked extremely hard again.

[NDR-791]

Quote: KyzymsIzymovich

The other day, the same media wrote that the losses in Bakhmut were 1 to 5, not in our favor.

Break off!!! I believe my people who come on vacation or for aftercare. And you will definitely not be pleased to hear about this ukrokirdyk.

[carpenter]

At the end of January, the Germans warned Kyiv that with the losses of more than a hundred people a day in only one city, there would not be enough reserves for the planned counteroffensives.

The Germans are mistaken, in Ukraine the mob reserve has not yet ended. In the region, and even in Artyomovsk itself, from the side of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, it is mainly "mobiki-bobiks" and terbats that are thrown by the "cauldron of war" in unlimited quantities. The advance of the Russian troops practically stands still, the motivated Wagner fighters bear the entire burden, but there are fewer of them with each combat day. At the same time, it is not yet visible, Ukrainian fighters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Battalions, newly trained behind the cordon and past battles, and the "geese" are also hiding somewhere.

[know]

That is, positional battles of local importance. Considering the size of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, it will take 10-15 years to "grind" at such a pace.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: vet

That is, positional battles of local importance. Considering the size of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, it will take 10-15 years to "grind" at such a pace.

at the "orchestra" the children will go into battle already. Nonsense, of course ... the deadlines need to be cut.

[svp67]

Quote: vet

That is, positional battles of local importance. Considering the size of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, it will take 10-15 years to "grind" at such a pace.

But very bloody and costly, in terms of the consumption of equipment and stocks of arsenals.
The war has already turned into a rage for half a year - wars of attrition

[Roman Efremov]

Quote: Clever man

Unfortunately, mathematics suggests that in this way Ukraine will have to be defeated for decades

Yes, until a ROAD TURN occurs at the front, the situation looks like a dead end. Our leaders confidently declare that Russia is ready to fight this war for years - but who knows how it really is? The front must collapse and the enemy must run, sooner or later.

[voyaka uh]

For years?
Only a year has passed, and T62, T54, motorcycle leagues with turrets are already going to the front. And they limit 155 mm shells. And 122 mm ran out.

[svp67]

Quote: voyaka uh

And limit 155 mm

I didn’t understand something, but what does the NATO caliber have to do with it?

Quote: voyaka uh

Only a year has passed, and T62, T54, motorcycle leagues with turrets are already going to the front.

And what? And on the other side are the T-55, Leo-1 and a bunch of "freaks" made in workshops

[Roman Efremov]

Both T-72B3 and T-90 are going to the front, if you don't know. Although over the past year we have lost and given to the enemy a lot of things that we could have saved - this is true. Now, it seems, they have become smarter and more thrifty.
We can fight for a long time - the only question is how long our economy and society can withstand. How many more waves of mobilization will our people endure. How long can workers at military factories work in 3 shifts without holidays and days off.

[Grandfather Fichteau]

Hunting for NATO instructors .. That's the main task! They interrogated and at expense .. You can present a knife to the throat and let him give orders to the Nazis .. And then strike

[svp67]

Everything will be decided in April. When will the thaw pass

[Filibuster]

The enemy greatly underestimates the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and also greatly overestimates the losses of the RF Armed Forces.
Information war, nothing personal.

[Kerensky]

Syrsky, the commander of the SV of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who dreams of trying on the shoulder straps of the commander-in-chief, managed to convince the clown that it is quite possible to recapture the city from the PMC "Wagner"

Did the "British edition" write this too? With whom are we, it turns out, fighting for the second year?!
(well, now it will be about a coalition of 50 countries)
No! Comrade propagandists, work better - you can always improve.

[NDR-791]

Quote: Kerensky

No! Comrade propagandists, work better - you can always improve.

I think that it’s not the butts who need to work here, but the Strategic Missile Forces. And I don’t think that the Americans will fit in as cousins ​​- everyone dies alone. And the population? Lived beautifully for free? He loved to ride, you could prove at the COURT that it’s right to live at someone else’s expense.

[kill the fascist]

It's just a holiday! It is a pity that not 500. The remarks about the Slavs killing the Slavs at the behest of the Anglo-Saxons are fair, but Russia had a poor choice. Either go under the Anglo-Saxons, as did the bloomers or the war. If the relative is inadequate, then the relative is also beaten.

[skeptic]

If the Armed Forces of Ukraine throw 80K people there, then Bakhmut will be taken away without any problems.

With an overwhelming superiority in artillery, we can throw it for slaughter.
And it’s not a fact that there are no reserves there. We have first-years fighting.
Without reliable information, one can only guess

[bravo77]

Quote: Grandfather Fir

Correcting Khrushchev's mistakes, according to Sudoplatov!
The tactics are monstrous, but there is no other way with the traitors of the Russian and Orthodox world .. Just wet
And then Allah will understand

Medvedchuk on dung, who personally pays me or Khrushchev?

[Christian Revuelta]

That means it's more likely to be 500 or 600 each day.

[Pavel_Sveshnikov]

It's too little to win. It is 3000-6000 per month. I think that so far the SVU has many times more mobilization capabilities. Of course, Artemovsk is not the entire front of the war. Based on reports from other sectors, I would venture to suggest that the number of all losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine should be multiplied by 4. This will turn out to be 12-24 thousand per month. This is not a problem for the APU. At least for now. What will happen in a year? Even if the men of military age run out, they will start rowing small and old and women, like Hitler in the 45th year. The quality of the army will certainly fall, but on the other hand, the West will increase the supply of weapons this year by a factor of 2. So in a year it will still be difficult and far from victory.

[opuonmed]

yes, in general, the RF does not care about the losses of the enemy, and they resist, which means the enemy does not care about their losses, if the enemy does not care about their losses, then the RF should not care about the losses of the enemy !!! and in general you shouldn’t care how much and what the enemy is losing! maybe misinformation before something they throw, see they suffer big losses!