Billionaire Deripaska commented on the signing of the "memorandum on the end of the Civil War in Russia"

Russian businessman Oleg Deripaska decided to speak out about the Civil War in Russia and the consequences of that historical period.
According to the billionaire, the civil war that began in 1917 "still smolders in the memory, albeit a few."

Deripaska, in his TG channel, comments on the memorandum, which MP Dmitry Kuznetsov announced a few days ago. According to Kuznetsov, a “memorandum on the end of the Civil War” was signed in the State Duma of the Russian Federation.

From an MP's post:

Probably, this should have been done by Molotov and Denikin in November 1941. Then, just as now, the existence of Russian civilization was under threat. But it didn't happen. Therefore, modern philosophers make peace. And who else to end the cold ideological civil conflict?

Kuznetsov said that the memorandum was signed by representatives of various parties and political movements, including the Liberal Democratic Party, the Communist Party. Among the signatories is the famous military blogger Vladlen Tatarsky (Maxim Fomin). For some reason, he was attributed to the "Makhnovist anarchists." The author of the post complains that United Russia has abstained from signing.

Regarding the signing, Deripaska writes that "no memorandum, in fact, can be done."

Billionaire:

Until now, the issues of restitution of the nationalized property of Russian citizens, which took place more than 100 years ago, have not been resolved. About the restoration of rights, about perpetuating in the memory of many heroes of the resistance to the Bolshevik dictatorship over these 70 years. Not to mention the millions of ruined and repressed Cossacks and members of their families, who, at best, were deprived of their liberty and homeland, and at worst, their lives. Recognition of this criminal genocide should also become an element of reconciliation, because the descendants have not forgotten. And they can't forgive.

Many experts, commenting on both the signing of the memorandum and Deripaska’s response, believe that the very topic of civil reconciliation (roughly speaking, those who are for the “whites” and those who are for the “reds”) is extremely important today. The reality is that the unity of representatives of the people of the most diverse views and preferences is the key to a great victory for the Russian world. But at the same time, the very discussion of the topic, if it is raised, should be conducted as transparently and correctly as possible, taking into account the opinions and interests of all parties involved. Otherwise, something completely different may grow out of the topic of civil reconciliation - at least a new breaking of political copies.

Comments

[Oden280]

Before restitution, let deprevatization be carried out from the beginning. In general, an attempt to stir up the rotten fish of confrontation in the Civil War is very much like an attempt to rock the situation in the country.

[Terenin]

Quote: Oden280

an attempt to stir up the rotten fish of confrontation in the Civil War is very much like an attempt to rock the situation in the country.

This is true. It is interesting to know who exactly now initiated this movement?

[ZhEK-Vodogrey]

A lot of free time. These comrades and gentlemen have the opportunity (without leaving the walls of the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation) to "make peace" between Cro-Magnons and Neanderthals. The latter can be represented by Deputy Valuev. His statement that Neanderthals have no claims against Cro-Magnons for the last 100-28 thousand years before the birth of Christ, the genocide of his species will become a striking political and media event.

[Comrade_X]

It should be clarified that the comrade quoted Strelkov.

[AlOrg]

Unfortunately or fortunately, we do not know what caused the extinction of the Neanderthals. It is possible that climate change. But you insult the Cro-Magnons with your calls

[Fedor1]

united russia leads this movement of clowns

[Aviator_]

It is interesting to know who exactly now initiated this movement?

Here, take it as a start and find out what Deripaska owned before 1991, and then take it and return it to that state.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: Aviator_

.... than Deripaska owned until 1991, .....

Find out what he and his ancestors owned before 1917, and carry out DE-Deripaskovization! Greetings Sergey RESTITUTION! Why not amend the regulation about the 90s? Great restitution! And whoever did not save that property ---- let him compensate! Yes, in multiples! Along with lost profits. That's what.

[Aviator_]

Hello Dmitry! Until 1917, his ancestors kept a tavern somewhere beyond the Pale of Settlement.

[zloybond]

On the line of the mother, the ancestors of Oleg Vladimirovich Deripaska come from the Ust-Labinsky district of the Krasnodar Territory. By origin - entirely all Kuban Cossacks.
In general, the oligarch Oleg Deripaska has Kuban Cossack and Ukrainian roots. And his true surname should sound like Deripasko (or even Deribasko).

[Al manah]

Ancestors served Russia, a descendant plunders it.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: Aviator_

.... his ancestors kept a tavern somewhere beyond the Pale of Settlement.

And what now, Sergey, prevents him from doing the same? It's time to go there

[gsev]

Quote: Reptiloid

what Deripaska owned until 1991, .....

Find out what he and his ancestors owned before 1917, and carry out DE-Deripaskovization! Greetings Sergey

Probably Deripaska decided to return the Pale of Settlement to the legal field ....

[Reptiloid]

Quote: gsev

...... Probably Deripaska decided to return the Pale of Settlement to the legal field ....

Maybe, many of them dream of returning serfdom

[fif21]

Quote: Terenin

It is interesting to know who exactly now initiated this movement?

Thieves! Ransacked the country in the 90s. Their ability to escape to the west is now limited (they know that everything will be taken away from them there), but they want to live in peace. I propose another option - to postpone until the threat to the existence of the country is eliminated, all projects that lead to the impoverishment of the population, and to the receipt of super profits. And yet - all the parties that signed the memorandum should not have a future. Why ? They cannot be called "people's", since they do not express the desire of the people, but under the guise of populist speeches, they participate in the creation of a state of "crooked mirrors" in which money, lies, servility, theft - become the norm.

[zloybond]

I think these initiators are not authorized by anyone. So - on the wave they decided to gurgle loudly on behalf of someone else. In any case, this is just their personal opinion. The descendants will remain with their own.

[Quote Lavrov]

More like a distraction. In reality, this topic will not split society any more. But attention and a certain amount of attention, of course, will take ..
As for the rest, I completely agree with you a million percent.

[dmi.pris1]

It seems to people there is nothing more to do. Empty PR, or stupid stupidity. The country is at war, suffers losses, and here is a party, the table is set ....

[Ulan.1812]

Quote from: dmi.pris1

It seems to people there is nothing more to do. Empty PR, or stupid stupidity. The country is at war, suffers losses, and here is a party, the table is set ....

Exactly ... they still have to start another transfer of time from winter to summer and vice versa.

[guest]

But what a cut, how much money you can steal on this.

[gsev]

Quote: Quote Lavrov

More like a distraction. In reality, this topic will not split society any more.

About 10 years ago, I was on adjustment at one of the enterprises of the Russian Post. The local workers, if they have a leader, will go to smash and cut the bourgeois like they smashed the landowners in 1917. I don’t think that the attitude of the exploited towards the exploiters has changed much at the Russian Post.

[carpenter]

Quote: Oden280

Before restitution, let deprevatization be carried out from the beginning

Well, why "deprevitization", when precisely restitution is needed - the return to the state and people of what the mafia (we read oligarchs) and others like them seized after the counter-revolutionary rebellion of 1991. The perpetrators should be brought to justice under the laws of that time.

[Alf]

Quote: carpenter

when exactly restitution is needed - the return to the state and people of what the mafia (we read oligarchs) and others like them seized after the counter-revolutionary rebellion of 1991.

Have you carefully read WHAT Deripaska offers?

Until now, the issues of restitution of the nationalized property of Russian citizens, which took place more than 100 years ago, have not been resolved.

He writes in Russian in white that it is necessary to return what was nationalized in 1917, i.e. to revive the class of capitalist landlords, that is, to return the country to a monarchy.
Next.

About the restoration of rights, about perpetuating in the memory of many heroes of the resistance to the Bolshevik dictatorship over these 70 years.

Restore and justify Krasnov, Shkuro, Slashchev...

Not to mention the millions of ruined and repressed Cossacks and members of their families, who, at best, were deprived of their liberty and homeland, and at worst, their lives.

This is about the support of the Cossack tsar ... And for their "exploits" in dispersals and executions.
And the most important thing..

The recognition of this criminal genocide should also become an element of reconciliation, because the descendants have not forgotten. And so far they cannot forgive ..

And after repentance comes compensation...
In fact, Deripaska's demand is a demand for a return to tsarism ...
If some uncle Petya spoke about this in the kitchen, then this is one thing. But a representative of the largest oligarchy demands a return, and this is completely different ... Apparently, abdication at gunpoint will soon follow ...

[Aviator_]

He writes in Russian in white that it is necessary to return what was nationalized in 1917, i.e. to revive the class of capitalist landowners,

Well, this class has been revived for 30 years. Who were the Tsapki in Kushchevka? - classic landowners, and if they hadn’t killed their class brothers, then they wouldn’t have had anything. Well, who is now the owner of "factories, newspapers, ships" is already clear.

[Alf]

Quote: Aviator_

He writes in Russian in white that it is necessary to return what was nationalized in 1917, i.e. to revive the class of capitalist landowners,

Well, this class has been revived for 30 years. Who were the Tsapki in Kushchevka? - classic landowners, and if they hadn’t killed their class brothers, then they wouldn’t have had anything. Well, who is now the owner of "factories, newspapers, ships" is already clear.

True, but he demands to revive all this officially.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: Alf

.... he demands to revive all this officially.

There were many different requirements. Which were reflected in films or the media and died out ..... I didn’t specifically study this topic, I have to read where the legs come from? Is this a trial balloon or a threat? As for the monarchy, there were such soft strokes, here and there ..... but not aggressively and without demands. I want you in a personal about it. How?

[Alf]

Quote: Reptiloid

How?

Ready for a chest hit.

Is this a trial balloon or a threat?

Rather, the second. Our oligarchy has already sensed its strength.

[Ulan.1812]

Quote: Alf

Quote: Aviator_

He writes in Russian in white that it is necessary to return what was nationalized in 1917, i.e. to revive the class of capitalist landowners,

Well, this class has been revived for 30 years. Who were the Tsapki in Kushchevka? - classic landowners, and if they hadn’t killed their class brothers, then they wouldn’t have had anything. Well, who is now the owner of "factories, newspapers, ships" is already clear.

True, but he demands to revive all this officially.

Officially legitimize to forever.

[gsev]

Quote: Alf

True, but he demands to revive all this officially.

And how will a person with an AK-47, a soldier of the Chechen army, or a commando from Wagner, or a mobilized Ossetian, look at this? After demobilization, they will not want to serve the landowner Deripaska. Even Stalin was afraid to drive those demobilized after 1945 into collective farms, they were given the opportunity not to return to the village, but to settle in the cities.

[Alf]

Quote: gsev

And how will a person with an AK-47, a soldier of the Chechen army, or a commando from Wagner, or a mobilized Ossetian, look at this?

Yes, he can look at whatever he wants, AK will be taken away from him ...

Quote: gsev

was given the opportunity not to return to the village, but to settle in the cities.

So before the Second World War, it was quite possible to leave for the city, the population of cities experienced explosive growth before the war, where did the people come from? He quietly left the villages. Moreover, a decree was issued on the impossibility of mending problems for those collective farmers who wish to move to the city.

[Lako]

Yah? The villagers got passports only under Brezhnev, but where will you go from the collective farm without a passport. There was one possibility - to enlist somewhere in the construction sites of the national economy, they went to Karelia, Yakutia, and then did not return to this collective farm.

[Alf]

Quote from lako

The villagers got passports only under Brezhnev, but where will you go from the collective farm without a passport.

The fact is that until 1932, in the USSR, as in many countries, there was no internal passport.
However, in 1932, an internal passport was issued! Residents of the USSR are required to have an official residence permit! And this is the most important thing, with the issuance of the first internal passports, a decree on these passports comes out! And if you know about the decree of April 28, 1933, then, in principle, you will no longer carry nonsense regarding disenfranchised collective farmers! In particular, I will quote two points from this decision:

2. Citizens permanently residing in rural areas (except those provided for in Article 1 of this Ordinance and the established strip around Moscow, Leningrad and Kharkov) do not receive passports. Population registration in these localities is carried out according to settled lists by village and township councils under the supervision of the district directorates of the workers 'and peasants' militia.
3. In cases where people living in rural areas drop out for long or permanent residence in the area where the passport system is entered, they receive passports in the district or city offices of the worker-peasant militia at the place of their previous residence for a period of 1 year.
To be completely honest, some chairmen of collective farms really sometimes prevented their collective farmers from leaving the collective farm, even for seasonal work and fishing, which is why the Soviet government was forced to bear criminal responsibility for this! Those. if the chairman stubbornly did not let the collective farmer go, comrades from the NKVD could come to him and politely ask him to let him go after all. Actually, the decision of March 16, 1930 No.

1. Resolutely prohibit local authorities and collective farm organizations in any way to hinder the retreat of peasants, including collective farmers, to work and seasonal work (construction, logging, fisheries, etc.).
2. District and district executive committees, under the personal responsibility of their chairmen, are obliged to immediately establish strict supervision over the implementation of this resolution, bring its violators to criminal liability.

And further. If the Soviet collective farmer could not escape from the collective farm, then where did the explosive growth in the population of cities come from? From Mars?

[carpenter]

Quote: Alf

And after repentance comes compensation...
In fact, Deripaska's demand is a demand for a return to tsarism ...

What Deripaska wants is clear to everyone, only he will not get anything from this, his ancestors are not noblemen, not bankers, but "diggers" and he will not become a nobleman. He is a mafioso himself, who needs to be "restructured", or rather expropriated. I know well how he got "metal dollars", everything went through us.

[Alf]

Quote: carpenter

only he will not get anything from this, his ancestors are not nobles, not bankers, but "diggers" and he will not become a nobleman.

Yah ? And Pugachikha and others like her nobles? Now it costs practically nothing to acquire the nobility, we are talking about several thousand euros and you are a nobleman, with entry into the Book and receiving a title. But Deripaska is not a talker of the Pugacheva-Mikhalkov class, he is a bison and his word will be more weighty ...

[carpenter]

Quote: Alf

Yah ? And Pugachikha and others like her nobles?

Sorry, in the Russian Empire, Jews could not become nobles, but various scarecrows, it's just a slime that sticks to the underwater part of the hull. It's time to dock and clean the case.

[Alf]

Quote: carpenter

in the Russian Empire, Jews could not become nobles

In RI, yes, but in modern Russia it’s easy, the main thing is to send the loot to someone who needs it.

Quote: carpenter

It's time to dock and clean the case.

Who will clean something? The one who reveres Ilyin as the main book?

[zloybond]

Everything is of course interesting, but only he has nothing to do with the Jews. These are Kuban roots - consider "Outskirts".

[Reptiloid]

Quote: carpenter

..... Deripaska ..... his ancestors are not nobles, not bankers, but "diggers" and he will not become a nobleman ......

And here it will be! You can buy all this and get papers! I won’t say exactly the mechanism ..... or get accelerated for merit.

[AAK]

Well, it’s necessary to proceed from the personality of the “boatman”, a very obscene type, by the way, and as for who is for what, now everyone must be for Russia, although in WWI on this occasion the Bolsheviks-ali-communists (see. " Chapaev") was a very different point of view from patriotism ...

[Basil50]

And how this one ..., imagines * reconciliation * with the descendants of the whites, who committed atrocities with the money of foreigners, just as the Nazis committed atrocities twenty years later.
And how will the descendants of the whites compensate for what the nobles appropriated under the Romanovs? And how will they compensate for the slave trade in the RUSSIAN EMPIRE? And how will they compensate for the robbery when slavery is abolished?
Or maybe this one ... will look back at himself and first return the people's property?

[Gerasin]

Cossack found! I think he DEEPLY spit on the Cossacks and their descendants! Apparently they want to, as under the king, they would be counts, and we would be serfs. There is only one movement: N-B-B-I RUSSIAN IVAN !!!

[Paul Siebert]

[quote = Oden280] Before restitution, let deprevatization be carried out from the beginning. [/ quote
Not only deprivatization, but also dederipascation...
They sleep and see these God-chosen commissars in dusty helmets in the doorways of their possessions, acquired by "overwork" ...
Be patient, Olezha, not long left ...
Soon they will knock on you and answer for everything.
For every penny!

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

It's strange to read all that.
The only emerging reaction: "verbiage".

[igorbrsv]

. On the restoration of rights, on the perpetuation in memory of many heroes of the resistance to the Bolshevik dictatorship

This is not verbiage. This is another bulk. They are afraid of dispossession. And I don't mind

[Andrey Stavropolsky]

Those who, like civilians, had nothing against dispossession, are not against dispossession. And as a result of dispossession, little has been added.

[RuAbel]

Oh, uh ..., oh, the aatki guys left ... And Deripaska, and Vladlen, and all the signatories. That's just the right time to inflate old grievances decided to inflate, right? And all that about the dispossessed and exiled Cossacks, about the taken away steamboat factories, they remember and yearn, they crave repentance for the commissar ... And then what? Will they go over to the bourgeoisie again?

[Alf]

Quote from Ruabel

Will they go over to the bourgeoisie again?

And they didn’t leave them, it’s just that now they finally dropped their masks ...

[carpenter]

Quote from Ruabel

And all that about the dispossessed and exiled Cossacks, about the taken away steamboat factories, they remember and yearn, they crave repentance for the commissar ..

And the fact that they stole from the country and backgammon, come out all legal and fair.
Here are his words - “We didn’t have money. Every day, finding a livelihood was the main concern. How to earn money to buy food and continue my studies?
O. Deripaska"
In 1990, Deripaska organized the Military Investment and Trading Company, which specialized in trading in metals. He went into exports, buying metal at low prices in Russia, selling it abroad at market prices. Deripaska traded mainly through Estonia. This is what we living in Estonia have seen well (Estonia has become the third country in the world in the export of non-ferrous metal). That's who you need to fight restitution. They robbed the country.

[AlexTires]

Having plundered the heritage of the USSR in 30 years, and hiding behind the good motives of civil reconciliation, the bourgeoisie announced the need for restitution, that is, another alteration of property in favor of some at the expense of others ... I would also mention the need for reparations and indemnities ... I will not say anything about the rest. bravo! I give a standing ovation ... So we will come .... To a new civil war ...

[carpenter]

Quote: AlexTires

I won't say anything about the rest.. Bravo! I give a standing ovation ... So we will come .... To a new civil war ...

And such people still turn their tongues, to teach people how to live. Undisguised arrogance, rudeness and hypocrisy. It turns out that our grandfathers did everything right in the civil war.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Well, if your grandfathers did everything right, how could it happen? What about the grandfather who died in 1943, the widow and his two children did not receive a pension, and he himself, as if temporarily, was declared missing. I don’t give a surname, it makes no sense, so there are no documents on the refusal of a pension. And I can not give the exact number of years without a pension.
Here is just an excerpt from the archives that have become available.
...
Place of birth: Ulyanovsk
Military rank: Red Army soldier
Last place of service: p / p 91083
Date of withdrawal: Before 10.01.1944/XNUMX/XNUMX
Reason for leaving: killed
Archive info+

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Minus, presumably, from those who are confident in universal happiness and simply unthinkable justice in those days. That's just bad luck, there was not enough happiness for everyone, as well as justice.

[carpenter]

Quote: AlexTires

Having plundered the heritage of the USSR for 30 years, and hiding behind the good motives of civil reconciliation, the bourgeoisie declared the need for restitution

Yes, the new "latrine" bourgeoisie, having robbed the people, still wants to get, or rather rob the noble class that was before the revolution. How much do the former plumbers and brothers from the organized criminal group want. You look at these photos, the "intelligence" from the physiognomies is just rushing, and everyone wants to be panami and gentry. In the west, these "nobles" from Uryupinsk and Taldykurgan are well known, and therefore they shake them godlessly.

[Magic archer]

It seems that people have nothing to do ... It's time to return the article for tuniyadstvo

[megadeth]

Judging by the photo, all by age, and judging by their appearance, they are suitable for the protection of our Motherland in the NWO zone ...

[Sanya Terek]

Quote: megadeth

Judging by the photo, all by age, and judging by their appearance, they are suitable for the protection of our Motherland in the NWO zone ...

Unsuitable! Morally unsuitable! This saint will not defend the Motherland, she can only protect her capital, what "Motherland" is, she does not know.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Unlike you, couch warriors, don’t take it as an insult, he himself is like that, at least one of those shown in the photo fought, and now is not on the sidelines. So it's better for you to be silent than to speak.

[Alexey Alekseev_5]

This deripiska is not being treated .. GDP - this liberal bastard is against the wall .. Otherwise, everything that you have built in 20 years is down the drain. Do not pull

[sergo1914]

Quote: Alexey Alekseev_5

Otherwise, everything that you have built in 20 years is down the drain.

Everything about this phrase is great.

[Alexey Alekseev_5]

What do you not like about this sentence? P --- tail pinched.? My ukrorodicham are now trying by any means to fall under the presidential decree on paying the mother's capital from the age of 7. If it were my will, I would put on the GDP crown. Although a democrat.

[igorbrsv]

Deripaska and all the hell out against the wall. They will have a "holy" signature.

[Quote Lavrov]

And the tsar, of course, according to the eternal Russian tradition, is not in the know !!! Are you seriously?!
Have you really already forgotten who called himself the main liberal in the country? VERBATIM!

[Alf]

Quote: Alexey Alekseev_5

GDP - against the wall this liberal bastard ..

That's just the nuance-GDP CAM said that he himself was a liberal ...

[parabyd]

No, my friend Deripaska, do not even hope that the people will put the Bolsheviks and the monarchists in the same row.

Thirty years after the collapse of the Union very clearly showed us who is who. And the SVO has become a test of the effectiveness of the capitalist system in Russia. Unfortunately for the examinee, the mark for the exam is not good.

Without the socialization of big business, state planning in all vital sectors, one cannot survive.

So sign - do not sign any memorandums there, but you will have to return the factories, newspapers and steamships.

[Ulan.1812]

Quote from: parabyd

No, my friend Deripaska, do not even hope that the people will put the Bolsheviks and the monarchists in the same row.

Thirty years after the collapse of the Union very clearly showed us who is who. And the SVO has become a test of the effectiveness of the capitalist system in Russia. Unfortunately for the examinee, the mark for the exam is not good.

Without the socialization of big business, state planning in all vital sectors, one cannot survive.

So sign - do not sign any memorandums there, but you will have to return the factories, newspapers and steamships.

In short, give Stalinist socialism. Where and state property and artels and cooperatives.
.

[Quote Lavrov]

Is it with people like the author of these words that we should unite in a single impulse for the sake of conducting an NWO?
Is it with the sleek and polished Deripaska, who pours slop on those who created EVERYTHING that he once wrested from the people, we are on the same side in the NWO? Is he the same guy that regular guys fight for? Yes, he goes on a hiking trip along a route known to all.
I would still understand if he said that the civil war was a tragedy for the people, history, country, that it went through the watershed through millions of families. That we need to remember the victims, and on the one hand, and on the other hand, remember those mistakes and lessons. And that would be fair and honest.
But when I read something like this:

heroes of resistance to the Bolshevik dictatorship during these 70 years. Not to mention the millions of ruined and repressed Cossacks and their families

One would like to say - every year I understand more and more why, in 1917, a revolution took place in our country. Thanks in many respects to such Deripaskas. Who got rich on someone else's hump, and now they are still teaching slaves how to think and whom to consider heroes.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Deripaska would have turned off the NWO long ago, if it were his will.

[75 Sergey]

And he has not yet been recognized by foreign agents - the son-in-law of EBN?

[Pilot]

And whoever admits, all the chicks of the Boriska nest are there, all smeared in the plunder of socialist property. They don't give up their accomplices. Let them wipe themselves with this piece of paper, nothing is finished ...

[VladimirNET]

If it makes Russia - stronger by joining forces for the NWO goals - we don't mind.

[Quote Lavrov]

Colleague, excuse me, but from what person do you say - "WE"? Personally, I am categorically against placing all responsibility for the civil war on the Bolsheviks alone. And even more so, for an apology to those who brought invaders from almost 30 countries into their country, who did the devil knows what on our land.

[Ulan.1812]

Quote: Quote Lavrov

Colleague, excuse me, but from what person do you say - "WE"? Personally, I am categorically against placing all responsibility for the civil war on the Bolsheviks alone. And even more so, for an apology to those who brought invaders from almost 30 countries into their country, who did the devil knows what on our land.

Moreover, it was the whites who unleashed the Civil War. Generals Alekseev, Kornilov, Denikin.

[igorbrsv]

Who will it make there? They are rehabilitating themselves. These same signatories plundered and sold us

[Alexey Alekseev_5]

Don't even hope .. Deripaska and his goals? Tse unprofitable

[Ivan Ivanov]

The billionaire Deripaska, who received an excellent Soviet education, must understand that restitution is not the end of hostilities, it is capitulation and an admission of guilt. And the "terrible dictatorship of the Bolsheviks" was preceded by repressions and the tsarist famine of the peasants, about which a lot of evidence has been preserved and Leo Tolstoy wrote: "they are dying of hunger quietly and en masse." One Lena execution is worth something - about 500 people. The Bolsheviks, with all the excesses, fought for the bright future of the country, what did the white gentlemen fight for with the active support of respected partners?

[Katya_Ivanova]

Quote: IvanIvanov

a lot of evidence has been preserved and Leo Tolstoy wrote: "they are dying of hunger quietly and en masse." One Lena execution is worth something - about 500 people.

Leo Tolstoy, of course, is a great authority. All his children chose to live abroad. Patriots. but Solzhenitsyn wrote that the Bolsheviks killed 66 million people. And which of these cultural figures to believe? Both are great patriots.

[dump22]

And the "terrible dictatorship of the Bolsheviks" was preceded by repressions and the tsarist famine of the peasants

Something I did not understand you.
Please explain how the repressions of the previous regime justify the repressions of the next one in some way? What is the connection here?

what did the white gentlemen fight for

Well, for example, Denikin officially fought for the "Great, United and Indivisible Russia." The specific political structure of Russia, in his opinion, was to be decided by the "All-Russian Constituent Assembly".
And Wrangel, who replaced him, was already going to carry out a land reform, without waiting for the meeting. Wrangel's agrarian reform legitimized the transfer of landlords' land in favor of the peasants, which happened during the revolution.

[sergo1914]

What do all these people have to do with the Civil War? What is their contribution to the liberation of the territory of the future USSR from the interventionist troops and collaborators who sold themselves to them? In the restoration of the country after the war and devastation? In the transformation of a backward peasant country into a powerful industrial power that defeated fascism and gave space to mankind?

[MakStVik]

The hucksters decided that they were politicians. It's not casual.

[Ulan.1812]

Quote: MakStVik

The hucksters decided that they were politicians. It's not casual.

Maybe they smelled something and the ground shook under them?

[MakStVik]

There is a saying - Whoever remembers the old, that eye is out. It's not just that she appeared.

[fif21]

Quote: MakStVik

There is a saying - Whoever remembers the old, that eye is out.

And why only part of the saying? And where - And whoever forgets, both of them! They cannot forget the year 17, And I am 91, when as a result of a military coup, the Great Country was destroyed and plundered!

[Fitter65]

About the restoration of rights, about perpetuating in the memory of many heroes of the resistance to the Bolshevik dictatorship over these 70 years. Not to mention the millions of ruined and repressed Cossacks and members of their families, who, at best, were deprived of their liberty and homeland, and at worst, their lives.

And who are these heroes - Krasnov, Shkuro and Kolchak? And why only millions of Cossacks, and not billions? And who will return to the Russians the GAZ plant, stolen from state property, which the country was building.

the raised topic of civil reconciliation (roughly speaking, those who are for the “whites” and those who are for the “reds”) is extremely important today. The reality is that the unity of representatives of the people of the most diverse views and preferences is the key to a great victory for the Russian world.

Is it really proposed to hug the executioner of Eastern Siberia - Semyonov, an accomplice of the Nazis Shkuro? .. Maybe then we will level the traitor Vlasov with GENERAL KARBYSHEV? This is not "the key to the great victory of the Russian world" - this is trampling the Russian world into the mud. In the 90s, it was not possible to rehabilitate the executioners, they began to cheat those who defended the country. In 2000 they tried, even a tearful movie about the executioner of Siberia -Kolchak was filmed, it didn’t crawl through, now what’s so stinging? Stalin seems to have finally reconciled in 1943, and introduced epaulettes, and officer ranks, and equalized the St. George Cross with the Order ... To whom there is little stolen (although there should be an obscene synonym for this word), let's carry out restitution. Let's return the property to the masters who fled to Europe, and maybe the little people back to serfs, maybe the king turned out to be wrong? There are no words, only emotions, Maybe first we will carry out the restitution of what was stolen from the people in the 90s ...

[tralflot1832]

I don’t know how to rejoice, my great-grandfather owned two 2-storey houses in Vladivostok, made of stone.

[sergo1914]

Quote: tralflot1832

I don’t know how to rejoice, my great-grandfather owned two 2-storey houses in Vladivostok, made of stone.

“Three tape recorders, three foreign film cameras, three domestic cigarette cases, a jacket ... suede ... Three. Jackets.»
Maybe all the same three? At home. And not in Vladivostok, but in Moscow?

[tralflot1832]

I don’t need someone else’s, there are two in Vladivostok. The blood drinker was still that trading post in Chukotka Alaska. But he raised good children. Only after the Great Patriotic War did he survive with the rank of colonel.

[fif21]

Quote: tralflot1832

I don't need someone else

And in the Baltic States, everything was given to the owners? 99% of the population of which hunchbacked on Russian, German, Polish masters.

[Andrey Stavropolsky]

Why such cheap sarcasm? Do you think that if you don’t have anything, others can’t have it either? They gave you an example not of an oligarch, but of a reasonable enterprising person.

[volodimer]

Tell me which ones? As a citizen, I'm interested.

[dump22]

the memorandum was signed by representatives of various parties and political movements, including the Liberal Democratic Party, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. Among the signatories is the famous military blogger Vladlen Tatarsky (Maxim Fomin).

“Who do you think this powerful old man is? Don't say you can't know. This is a giant of thought, the father of Russian democracy and a person close to the emperor.

[Hagakure]

Lots of different thoughts on this. On the one hand, this is not necessary, because the majority of the people live today and are generally far from the confrontation between the Reds and Whites of that era. On the other hand, White ideas are more common in our government, and Red ideas among the people. Of course, the class struggle will not disappear from the signing of the papers. But in matters of historical confrontation, a balanced campaign will finally begin and the people will no longer be swayed and dragged away to the modern Reds and Whites. Now, while the NWO is going on, which threatens to go into an open Third World War against Russia, it is important to consolidate society. In principle, in the White movement, the desire to understand the Reds is already noticeable, because the current supporters of the White ideology in power cannot achieve the results of the Red commanders at the front. The Reds also do not shine anything good from the fact that Russia will lose this war. In general, in fact, this is a good thing. Although, of course, this is more like good intentions.

Let me tell you an idea that is not for everyone. Which now definitely looks seditious ... But if at one time the Banderaites who came to power under Yushchenko, or at least later, accepted such an agreement with the Red part of the Ukrainian population, there would be no civil war either now or for the last nine years on the territory of Ukraine would not be. Here it would be necessary to explain, as it were, that modern Ukraine was created by separating Bandera from the USSR, that is, all sorts of Rukhites, etc. anti-Soviet followers of Bandera. But at the same time, the whole of Ukraine is being built up and eating away the legacy of the past, i.e. USSR, having achieved little after gaining independence. About the same as the current Russian Whites, having destroyed the Union, they have not achieved anything in the present. Russia is already internally ready to reconcile the ancient strife. In Ukraine, the authorities in Kyiv have traditionally maintained a split between the Red East and the Bandera West of Ukraine, biting off funds from each side in their favor in Kyiv, like a fox in that fairy tale. Well, sooner or later such a division had to shoot. It's a pity, the country used to be good.

[Aviator_]

Russia is already internally ready to reconcile the ancient strife.

Conciliation is a property redistribution of the existing status quo. Which of the current bourgeoisie will do this?

[Hagakure]

Old man, you live in your strange illusory world in which someone has to give you something just because you have an opinion. Unfortunately, apparently, the majority of such people on the site are elderly, with an opinion, allegedly deserved, and it is they who belong to the jingoistic patriots. They are not going to do anything themselves, and everyone is waiting for someone to give them everything for free. And they are very outraged that for some reason no one is going to do this. So, if you were really responsible for your actions, which are not there, then you would have assessed the possible risks, and you would have realized long ago that no one will ever give you anything. And you should come to terms with this, especially since the shaking of the air in social networks is nothing more than your personal splashing of emotions that simply have nowhere to go. And the cart will continue to be there. And all these people: Deripaska, Usmanov, Chubais - will die quite happily in their beds at a fairly respectable age, like Gorbachev. Unlike you. In order for something to be given to you, you will have to stand up and take it yourself. And while you will try to take away, trying to shoot at them - they will shoot at you, and most likely more effectively than you at them. Be sure. Though I doubt you're really unaware of it. You are aware of this and are trying to find those fools who will do it for you. So, I tell you that there are no such people in nature. There are many such "tricks" like you, but there are no such who will carry chestnuts from the fire for you. Therefore, instead of creating strife in society over unrealizable dreams of re-privatization, you should think about consolidating society in a war. Because a priori, American tanks have a much better chance to start rolling around your streets than you have to achieve re-privatization, or what is this stupidity you call there? And you, with your strife, do nothing but increase the chance for American tanks to meet you on the streets of your city. I understand that the words of a man who has been living in a war for nine years hardly reach a well-fed, peaceful pensioner, far from the front and who has not seen the war - but take the trouble to re-read and understand what I said so as not to provoke unnecessary deconstructive messes in your belligerent country, which without your stupid messes is very difficult. Think about the consolidation of society.

[Alf]

Quote: Aviator_

it is a property redistribution of the existing status quo. Which of the current bourgeoisie will do this?

And this is the situation of spiders in the bank. Yes, and remember how many giants such as Gusinsky, Berezovsky and others like him have been devoured and no one tweeted.

[Ulan.1812]

Quote: Aviator_

Russia is already internally ready to reconcile the ancient strife.

Conciliation is a property redistribution of the existing status quo. Which of the current bourgeoisie will do this?

That's just about it, Deripaska keeps quiet.

[kakvastam]

Well done, you are correct.
First, cancel privatization with cute loans-for-shares auctions, then assemble the Union within the borders of the Russian Empire, restore the monarchy, play restitution, drive out the priests and return Perun and Dazhdbog ...
At one time, beautiful stupidity was popular: "if you are so smart, why are you so poor"?
It seems that you can be surprised and the reverse combination.

[sergo1914]

Quote: kakvastam

Well done, you are correct.
First, cancel privatization with cute loans-for-shares auctions, then assemble the Union within the borders of the Russian Empire, restore the monarchy, play restitution, drive out the priests and return Perun and Dazhdbog ..

Do not they throw ideas.

[Belisarius]

Well, the thief and bandit Deripaska, who in the "high court of London" finds out with another thief and bandit Chernov who had a roof from whom and who stole what from whom, of course, does not agree to any "reconciliation". He, as it should be, is most afraid of a thief that the master (the people) will return to power in the country and demand back what was stolen.
But the political meaning here is different - Deripaska, like all the other oligarchs, is now frantically trying to save the loot not from the Russian people, but from his bosses in the West. This statement means his full consent to the liquidation of the post-Soviet RF (which, as you know, is the legal successor of the USSR), and to the transition to power to the "liberal opposition". The second point of the program which (the first is complete subordination to the West) is decommunization.
P/S. The idiotic clowning in the Duma with "reconciliation" is already bearing its first "fruits" ....

[Soldatov V.]

What vindictive descendants of monarchists, bourgeois. The communists forgave them everything about 80 years ago, but no, greed is genetic in the blood. And the nouveaux riches are not far behind them.
By the way, is there a statute of limitations on these property claims?

[Ross xnumx]

Billionaire Deripaska commented on the signing of the "memorandum on the end of the Civil War in Russia"

This is the one who:

In November 1994, Oleg Deripaska's Aluminproduct became a minority owner Sayanogorsk aluminum plant.

??
Damn organizer! What did he do for his country so that he could teach someone here? Speculation and proximity to criminal structures (OCGs) are all preferences ...
We remember everything... And about the yacht, and about the youngsters... Maybe it's enough to look for "not smart" who will believe and understand? One field of berries, together with the hard worker Abramovich (who in his life did not say anything sensible, and cannot write anything without mistakes - the head of Chukotka).
It was not customary to invite women with low social responsibility to high society ... Apparently, on the wave of “heroes” and “deserved ones” that surfaced, he decided to show himself?
I DO NOT BELIEVE!!!

[tank64rus]

All this is strange. However, the passage about securing what was stolen is impressive. In my family, the civil war swept through, dividing it equally. After graduation, only one of my grandfathers survived. Fought in the Second Cavalry Army. It would be better if the deputies were concerned about the problems of the NWO, and let historians argue about the Civil War.

[Pilot]

Nothing strange, the thieves fell between two fires and cannot sleep peacefully. In the West they are crushed and robbed, and in their own country the sins do not give rest, pitchforks shine everywhere. Well, behind the scenes, they decided to sign a memorandum on the end of a citizen with different forces for their own reassurance, without asking the opinion of the people. Well, in order to be able, on occasion, to wave this piece of paper in front of the nose of the indignant people, they say that we have signed a memorandum with your parties or with the authorities, complete reconciliation and forgiveness of the parties. Naive..

[samarin1969]

For several years now, Donbass has been like a complete "memorandum": National Bolsheviks, communists with asterisks, Cossacks, monarchists and many thousands of fighters without ideological nonsense.

If Deripaska wants unity, then he must finance the abundance of shells, not "restitution." The idea of ​​reconciliation is very important, but it should not be caricatured in the style of Zhirinovsky.

[faiver]

What kind of nonsense is this? I'm talking about the memorandum and about Deripaska's statements

[Ulan.1812]

Quote: faiver

What kind of nonsense is this? I'm talking about the memorandum and about Deripaska's statements

The memorandum is nonsense, but that smart-ass Deripaska is trying to legitimize the stolen stuff in this way.

[faiver]

maybe it's worth stirring up the socialist party? And then the Communist Party has long turned into a piece of furniture in the State Duma ....

[tralflot1832]

In general, what was it? Wait, someone will say, it’s good to deal with nonsense and silence.

[volodimer]

Now we have seen who the real Cossacks are: those who walk around with stripes and whips or those who fight in the Donbass.

Many experts, commenting on both the signing of the memorandum and Deripaska’s response, believe that the very topic of civil reconciliation (roughly speaking, those who are for the “whites” and those who are for the “reds”) is extremely important today.

It is important right up to "impossible" ... Damn .. did you come up with your own "burner"?
Trying on between the "reds" and "whites" happened a long time ago .. All the participants died. Raising this question now is how to stir up the coals in an extinct fire. Someone wants to set fire to a fire here.

[Aviator_]

Now we have seen who the real Cossacks are: those who walk around with stripes and whips or those who fight in the Donbass.

This has been visible since 2014 - Dremov's Cossacks fought, and the mummers of Kozitsin were engaged in gray coal schemes.

[north 2]

the whole comedy is in the fact that these people imagine themselves to be someone. hope to go down in history this way. Of course, many rehearsed for a long time in front of the mirror in order to give their faces, whether it be intellectually enriched faces, twisted their mustaches like a nobleman, but forgot that Deripaska must return to the people the billions stolen from the people and from the state before talking about reconciliation. And those who won the Civil War in 1922 and put an end to the Civil War in Russia entered history. There were no more Civil Wars in Russia and there is no need to invent them, otherwise you will call ...
By the way, this Antonovsky from the photo at the table in the article should know that it is not necessary to twist your mustache in a noble way in order to now portray yourself as a nobleman. Mikhalkov's mustache has fallen like an autumn leaf. but in essence, he still portrays Mr. Paratov before us ..., only in addition to factories and steamships that also own cinema in Russia.
And that the Zyuganov communists joined this comedy, it is only from grace that now there are no those who then won that Civil War, otherwise the Eyuganovites would have waited for the fate of the contra and the White Guards ..

[Mazunga]

Zyugi lads, at best, social democrats before the communists, they are like cancer before China, an ordinary leftist party with grannies and grandfathers in red party scarves handed over after the event)))

[Ulan.1812]

Quote: North 2

the whole comedy is in the fact that these people imagine themselves to be someone. hope to go down in history this way. Of course, many rehearsed for a long time in front of the mirror in order to give their faces, whether it be intellectually enriched faces, twisted their mustaches like a nobleman, but forgot that Deripaska must return to the people the billions stolen from the people and from the state before talking about reconciliation. And those who won the Civil War in 1922 and put an end to the Civil War in Russia entered history. There were no more Civil Wars in Russia and there is no need to invent them, otherwise you will call ...
By the way, this Antonovsky from the photo at the table in the article should know that it is not necessary to twist your mustache in a noble way in order to now portray yourself as a nobleman. Mikhalkov's mustache has fallen like an autumn leaf. but in essence, he still portrays Mr. Paratov before us ..., only in addition to factories and steamships that also own cinema in Russia.
And that the Zyuganov communists joined this comedy, it is only from grace that now there are no those who then won that Civil War, otherwise the Eyuganovites would have waited for the fate of the contra and the White Guards ..

Paratov is not a nobleman, but a merchant, albeit a rich one. The current ones are also just a merchant, although they are trying to pose as new nobles.
For the rest, I fully agree.

[Pilot]

I’m wondering who authorized these parties to sign such memorandums of consent and reconciliation between the Reds and Whites, because people are still divided into colors
.A nationwide referendum was not held, which means they were self-willed behind the scenes and the value of this memorandum is about toilet paper. Of course, they have become quite insolent, but in general it is especially necessary to ask the Zyuganoids, for more than 30 years the Soviet and Russian people have been fooling, red pants unfinished.

[Katya_Ivanova]

The Whites fought for British foreign agents, who overthrew the Russian Tsar. And the Bolsheviks overthrew this British scum. And this is fair. And they have no forgiveness for vile traitors and traitors to the motherland who violated the oath. It's amazing, maybe that's why all these admirers of those traitors and their followers prefer to live in London? And also, probably, Nicholas 2 should be decanonized, and Kerensky should be canonized. Only this will convince these esteemed signatories of our trustworthiness.

[camo]

Is it with these semi-pokers in the photo to sign the worlds, and to fraternize!? No, I humbly thank you, they will merge both the people and the country at the first serious crisis. here it is well written about these: https://norg-norg.livejournal.com/957500.html

[Sergey Muravyov]

The Reds won the Civil War, period.
If you sign a memorandum of reconciliation, then bring up for discussion the events of 1991-93 and their consequences. This period divides people much more than the memories of a hundred years ago.

[oleg Pesotsky]

What a fierce nonsense. In 1921, the government of the RSFSR issued an amnesty according to which an amnesty was announced to all participants in the white movement. Who wanted to return. Even General Slashchev returned, and even on him the blood was not up to the elbows, but higher. And nothing, he taught at the academy. Only those who in the 30s went to the service of Hitler and then committed atrocities in their former homeland did not return. Not only do the deputies not know elementary history, so it looks like they also have free time in bulk for all sorts of nonsense.

[Alf]

Quote: oleg Pesotsky

Not only do the deputies not know elementary history, so it looks like they also have free time in bulk for all sorts of nonsense.

[Mazunga]

yes, Deripaska would be dispossessed))) he has a lot of good stuff

[fiv]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. By proclaiming "reconciliation", these idlers, around whom Deripaska vultures immediately begin to gather at the smell of money, risk igniting a new fire of unrest.

[Bogalex]

Both our Duma members and citizen Deripaska have a very interesting philosophy. Some think that a signature on a piece of paper can immediately eliminate all contradictions in society, while the other confuses the concepts of "reconciliation" and "surrender".
And neither of them seems to be aware that the division into conditional "whites" and conditional "reds" in our society continues and deepens, not because someone likes "And Lenin is so young ...", but someone " How delightful evening in Russia!". But because there are more and more of those who no longer have cabbage soup, and the prison is emptying every day, and farther and farther from them are those who think more and more large pearls are small.

[geologist]

2022-1914-1812 .... to seek reconciliation of people from the time of Gostosmysl, who suffered from Rurik, Batu, Batory, False Dmitry, Charles 12, Napoleon, Hitler.

[Mikhail Maslov]

Yes, to hell with you! Your pisyulki do not mean anything.

[Plate]

Oh, some guys got together and signed some piece of paper that no one needed. This has no more significance than any decisions of some Supreme Court of the USSR from 2020 some year there.
The civil war ended over 100 years ago, and there is nothing to sign here. The point was set a long time ago. It's just that someone wants their names to be featured in news articles. Well, I'm in a hurry to upset: they will immediately be forgotten.

[Ulan.1812]

Should I team up with Deripaska? What this kozel wrote is not the end of the Civil War, but its new unleashing ... the revenge of the "whites".
This is what this thief offers - the surrender of the "Reds".
Why didn't he say anything about revising the results of thieves' privatization?
If the end means reconciliation, which means consent and these are concessions on both sides, and not as Deripaska wants and the same thieves as he is, the capitulation of the "Reds" and legitimize their stolen goods.
The civil war ended in 1920 with the victory of the Reds.
It was in 1991 that the "whites" unleashed a new Civil War, trying to take revenge.
About the Communist Party, if they signed this memorandum, then they are traitors.
However, this has been clear for a long time.

[igorra]

Probably missed something if the "whites" and the comprador bourgeoisie with the Duma deputies of the 1917 model began to stir. All around are injured and offended, and the people are not the same again, they do not want to bow again, breaking their hats. Yes, even a bastard, he wants to eat. Maybe again with his Cossacks, but not with a whip, but with a saber, and from top to bottom from a horse ...

[Huzhzhu]

And what now there is nothing more relevant, topical? Who needed to stir up this historical "dregs"? Strange and...unsafe in these turbulent times.

[Alf]

Quote: Buzz

And what now there is nothing more relevant, topical?

And there is nothing to boast about, so they divert attention ...

[Sergey Drozdov]

And who were Deripaskas before 1917? Did you happen to steal?...

[Alexey Alekseev_5]

Exactly. They stole. I remember he even tried to steal a pen from Putin. Genes ...

[runway-1]

Regarding the signing, Deripaska writes that “no memorandum, in fact, can be done”

What a pitiful soul lover he turns out to be! But the rights and legitimate interests of modern Russian compatriots do not interest him?!

[Al manah]

It was said about such a "Cossack": "Your grandfather was a Cossack, your father was a Cossack son, and you ... a dog."

[Vnaja]

Well, in Russian it is called "he said how he farted into the water."

[kakvastam]

Back in XNUMX, the English-language press was discussing the Kremlin's project to restore the monarchy with Yeltsin as regent under one of the distant relatives of Count. Romanova. It seems that then they considered that the people would not understand.
And later, waves of contenders for the throne periodically rolled over Moscow, it is unlikely that they rode on their own initiative.
So the desire of all kinds of Deripaskas to secure the loot will never disappear anywhere.
And his son is indignant that the sanctions prevent him from riding around the world.
And what for are we such "owners"?

[Alf]

Quote: kakvastam

Back in XNUMX, the English-language press was discussing the Kremlin's project to restore the monarchy with Yeltsin as regent under one of the distant relatives of Count. Romanova. It seems that then they considered that the people would not understand.
And later, waves of contenders for the throne periodically rolled over Moscow, it is unlikely that they rode on their own initiative.

[isv000]

Isn't it time for Deripaska? You won't wake up in the morning and no one will remember...

[Dmitrii]

And where is this Deripaska now? From his post it is clear that he is an enemy, and the enemy must be destroyed.

[Mouse]

Not 3a white, I am not 3a red!!!
Everyone has been confused by the demon Satan, and the earth is one.
So who can honestly tell me why the country is monopolized by one harmful and poisonous drug. Drug control is looking in the wrong direction. Ethyl poison has long been recognized as a drug that causes harm no less than heroin. It seems to me that this crowd is weak because they were poisoned with drugs and are slyly silent, the genocide continues.
Shame and disgrace, dear comrades.
Legal cheap poisonous drugs are a national disaster.

[Mouse]

It would be possible not to point out the word milliarter.. Well, he could be a fool. He did nothing to prevent this conflict. In a word, not a world-liarter. At all.

[Peaceful SEO]

Do the government officials have nothing better to do? I wish they had signed a memorandum on the end of the Tatar-Mongol yoke. Why, any whim takes away our money...

[Graz]

Until now, the issues of restitution of the nationalized property of Russian citizens, which took place more than 100 years ago, have not been resolved. About the restoration of rights, about perpetuating in the memory of many heroes of the resistance to the Bolshevik dictatorship over these 70 years. Not to mention the millions of ruined and repressed Cossacks and members of their families, who, at best, were deprived of their liberty and homeland, and at worst, their lives. Recognition of this criminal genocide should also become an element of reconciliation, because the descendants have not forgotten. And they can't forgive.

It seems to me that Deripaska himself, with such statements, is doing everything to rock the boat of the state and renew the split in society, because the descendants of the serfs can then hold the masters accountable for the grievances of their ancestors, starting at least with the abolition of St. George’s Day

[ISKANDER_61]

This body has not forgotten which countries other than Russia he is a citizen of and where he withdraws money from Russia. Six-faced beast.

[Stanislav82]

Is he not afraid to find out that what he owns will not be his property?

[hector]

If the photo in the article is from that “symposium”, then this memorandum was accepted in passing during the meal, passing the time between a change of dishes and drinks.
And in Deripaska’s statement there is not a word about the actions of the side opposite to the Bolsheviks, which indicates the continuation of the West’s idea of ​​equating the Bolsheviks with the Nazis. One gets the feeling that Deripaska is being groomed to replace the rotten Khodorkovsky.

[Illanatol]

Quote from lako

Yah? The villagers got passports only under Brezhnev, but where will you go from the collective farm without a passport. There was one possibility - to enlist somewhere in the construction sites of the national economy, they went to Karelia, Yakutia, and then did not return to this collective farm.

It was easy to do. Statistics on the growth of the number of city residents in the 20-30s. - proof of this.
How could industrialization be carried out without an influx of workers?

[Illanatol]

Quote: Hagakure

Think about the consolidation of society.

Durak gets rich with thoughts. Consolidation of society with such property (and other) stratification is the same utopia as wholesale nationalization.
Whether the poor want to consolidate with the rich is a question.
But the rich and the poor definitely don’t want to, because our nouveau riche don’t see the poor as people.

[Arpad_Polan]

The billionaire, of course never mentions the ill received gains of his family and the proletariat who rebelled against their exploitation in 1917. Nor did he mention the enormous overseas assistance to the Whites which is pretty much the equivalent of what the West still does everywhere in the name of color revolutions. It is a class struggle and it has always been that. I am well to do myself, but despise these billionaires and their ilk. They are the cancer of humanity, the embodiment of arrogance, corruption and materialism.

[Ed1970]

Why is it now that the Russian elite is beginning to prepare the ground for property claims against the Russian state? (for what the Bolsheviks took)
1 - are they confident of an imminent victory and are preparing to divide what will come under Russian control?
2 - are they sure that difficult times will come for Russia and are trying to prepare a deal in exchange for their help?
Is there a third option?
If only 1 and 2, then this means that the elite is not in the mood to invest in the country, but only to destroy it further.

[hector]

Quote: Ed1970

Why now Russian elite begins to prepare the ground for property claims against the Russian state? (for what the Bolsheviks took)

In Russia, since perestroika, there is no elite in the full understanding of this term, but there is a caste of the ruling class with its own interests, and these interests do not intersect with the interests of other citizens and Russia itself.