Some details of the attack on American bases in Syria appeared: Iranian missiles and drones “loaded” the US NASAMS air defense system, eventually breaking through air defense

Missile attacks on US military bases in the region of the largest hydrocarbon deposits in Syria is one of the main topics for the Western world today. The topic turned out to be so serious that it even removed the Ukrainian conflict from the front pages of the Western media, for which billions of dollars are allocated for military and information pumping.

The main message of the strikes, for which the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, in fact, took responsibility, is not only that every American operation against Iranian forces will be answered. This message also consists in a number of other aspects. For example, in the fact that Iran in the Middle East no longer allows the United States to fight solely with the help of "proxy". In any case, the United States faces the risk of losses among its military personnel, even if they are located on the territory, as they themselves claim, of "overprotected" bases.

The message is also that Iranian missiles today have reached such a technological level that allows you to easily nullify the effectiveness of the built American air defense system. This system was built in an attempt to create a no-fly zone in the area where the US army bases and Syrian fields were located, but in the end, the calculations of the US anti-aircraft missile systems turned out to be virtually powerless against more than 20 Iranian missiles and drones-kamikaze.

Some details of the attack in eastern Syria have emerged.

They failed to cope with the task of intercepting NASAMS missiles and air defense systems, which the Americans use in the occupied territories of the Syrian Arab Republic. The first wave of the attack "loaded" the air defense to the maximum, and the second wave had already done its job directly on the objects on the ground.

There was also information in the Abu Kamal area, where an American military convoy was attacked, several fuel tanks and the American military escorting them and local militants hired by him were destroyed.

It is noteworthy that these events took place against the background of reports about the readiness of Riyadh and Damascus to resume relations, moreover, with the mediation of Moscow. Officials met in Dubai, UAE, agreeing to create a roadmap for rebuilding contacts between the Syrian Arab Republic and Saudi Arabia. As the Middle Eastern press writes, "the US administration has remained behind the board of geopolitical changes here too," indicating that not so long ago, Saudi Arabia also held productive negotiations with Iran - through the mediation of China.

Comments

[igorbrsv]

Interestingly, if Syria, Iran, and the Saudis, through the mediation of the Russian Federation and China, build "special" relations, will the Israelis be set on again?

[Metallurg_2]

I think that in this case there will not be enough b-chosen ones. Will end quickly.

[Mikhail Drabkin]

--- I hope that Russian staff officers do not sleep at night from the nightmare of oversaturation of air defense (save and save !!!) object, military, strategic (S-400 and beyond) in the theater of military operations of the NMD, and in the zone of achievement by means of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the depths of Russia

—-And that countermeasure plans have been developed, and their implementation is under the daily control of the Joint Headquarters of the Northern Military District and personally by General Gerasimov.

[g_ae]

They don’t sleep, they seem to be chasing the kraken there with the whole General Staff.)))) It’s just interesting, the “SVO” has already passed a year, and the air defense of the Sumerians is more alive than all the living. I would like to call the Russian generals the heirs of Suvorov, but skepticism does not allow, somehow the successes are not impressive, and Mr. Konashenkov's stand-show is nothing but mortal anguish.

[Herman 4223]

In what place is it more alive than all the living,
if ours are hammering what they want anywhere in their territory?

[g_ae]

Seriously? Something I have not heard about the flights of Russian aviation over the front line. Bridges across the Dnieper both stood and stand. Ukrov logistics works like clockwork. Apparently not everyone wants to hammer. Or not everyone can do what they want.

[Motorhead]

Partners cannot be strongly offended, the atom will come out with something

[Poplar]

Apparently not everyone wants to hammer. Or not everyone can do what they want.

I think you are wrong. Most likely they don’t hammer, because they don’t want to. One can only guess about the reasons, because. there are no explanations from either the government or the command. But I am sure that we have opportunities, and they do not require prohibitive resources. For example, you can hit the tunnels in the west of the outskirts with daggers. There are not so many of these tunnels, and it will not be possible to restore them quickly.

[g_ae]

But is it okay that every NATO shell, tank or fuel tank that passed through the tunnel and across the bridges to the left bank is, among other things, the lost lives of our soldiers? And why did the Ukrainians methodically achieve our withdrawal from Kherson, while ours only managed to bomb the bridge near Odessa near Odessa. Maybe, as a sofa expert, I don’t understand something, but I’m sure that I’m not the only one, and not only I have questions, and I don’t see logical explanations. But, as a person who has seen the beginning of perestroika, very bad suspicions appear. There were too many muddy schemes. Some Surkov games around the Donbass were worth something. By the way, including the result of these games, we now have.

[Herman 4223]

There are about three dozen bridges across the Dnieper. Of course, it is possible to loosen them, but this will not allow cutting off the supply of the army, or rather, it will, but only partially. There will be all sorts of ferries and crossings. But with the supply of the population there will be serious problems. In a couple of weeks, hunger will begin.

[Viktior Vinland]

Why famine, the population can be transferred to other regions of Russia for the duration of the special operation and they could work there to speed up the victory.

True, the issue should not have been addressed in the first place. By the beginning of the NMD, Ukraine had shells for two weeks. All that was needed was to cut off Ukraine with a blow along the Polish cordon and smash the only Ukrainian shell factory to pieces.

[Herman 4223]

Because the famine is that the territories where the population lives will first need to be occupied, and only then evacuation will be possible.
A strike along the border with Poland is not so easy to execute. There are long distances and territories and a weak road network from Belarus. And most importantly, it would not be possible to cut off completely. To do this, it would also be necessary to cut the border with Romania and tightly seal the ports in Odessa and Nikolaev.

[Poplar]

Yes, I agree with you that

every NATO shell, tank or fuel tank that passed through the tunnel and across the bridges to the left bank is, among other things, the lost lives of our soldiers

Questions about the current logistics of the outskirts have been asked at least since May last year.

Maybe, as a sofa expert, I don’t understand something, but I’m sure that I’m not the only one, and not only I have questions, and I don’t see logical explanations.

And yes, there are still no answers to them. But these are not questions for me. I also voiced them here at VO probably since June, then I stopped, because no one can answer, except for various assumptions, there is nothing. That's why I wrote it in my previous post.

[SergioCDS]

... - WHEREAS, Fsegda "flashing" at "nothing in the innocent and poor unfortunate people."

[Saburov_Alexander53]

swotting on the Antonovsky bridge, the Ukrainians achieved our withdrawal from Kherson, and ours only managed to bomb the bridge near Odessa.
Notice that they hit the bridge in Kherson with MLRS or d / w artillery, and not from aircraft. And then, they couldn’t bring it down and our bridge was blown up during the retreat. The bridge in Zatoka near Odessa stands and works as a railway section, as well as a car section. A dozen and a half "Caliber", according to the media, as well as a naval drone, did not inflict a critical defeat on the bridge. Doesn't it make you wonder why?

[Saburov_Alexander53]

The blow to the Beskydy tunnel did not bring much destruction either. Fragments of rock on the tracks near the portal were moved by machinery and a few days later the tunnel started working again. It looks like the tunnels cannot be taken from the outside with a conventional charge, so they stopped beating. To rush them from the inside, but this requires a wagon with explosives.

[Viktior Vinland]

And what prevents you from sending a wagon with explosives? According to many, such concern for the security of the Polish-Ukrainian border on the part of the Russian leadership is explained by the fact that they continue to do dirty deeds on the blood of people and trade with them. Why not load at least one car with TNT instead of the junk they sell there, and after the explosion, also demand insurance for the loss of goods due to the fault of the Ukrainian side. Right?

[skeptic]

Quote: g_ae

Bridges across the Dnieper both stood and stand.

So that's it, zhezh. "Dagger" into the central support and two spans in the Dnieper. But here the "commercial interests" of the bourgeois prevail over the military.

[lopvlad]

Quote: g_ae

Something I have not heard about the flights of Russian aviation over the front line.

even the oldest air defense will successfully overwhelm any modern aircraft, and this was confirmed back in Yugoslavia when the object air defense complex of the 60s overwhelmed the invisible F-117.
Therefore, the effectiveness of a modern air defense system is assessed by its ability to repel a massive raid of cruise missiles, planning bombs, drones, and Ukraine's air defense is incapable of this.

[svoroponov]

There will be a task to destroy the bridges, they will destroy it. Yes, and for the time being, aviation is also not worth flying in the rear, if there are similar missile weapons in terms of efficiency. And aviation is used and quite successfully in the areas of the lines of clashes.

[cat-begemot]

Drive army aviation over territory 404 for what?
The same question for strategists .. Not relevant for reconnaissance, not very justified for strikes. There are no devices for the stratosphere, satellites also raise a lot of questions - are they even there?
And most importantly, there are essentially no strategic facilities for aviation. We don’t count nuclear power plants, ports and bridges. But I think there are few drones, we need to increase the number of drones by 10-100 times.

[Seraphimamur]

Alexander Grekov stop lying on the couch and touch the keyboard, go to the Donbass and show me how to fight.

[ALCA056000]

Are you seriously ? These "sofa strategists" can only come from guano. What "go", in the same place "bo bo" can happen. The smart guys have already pulled up these sofas with their stupid "cleverness for stupid people." Well, or, most likely, this is another ukrokholopsky scribbling at the master's orders for a small sum of money.

[KCA]

There is no object air defense in Russia, there is a common air defense network, from Nebo to Pantsir-S, in some area you can oversaturate with targets, but they don’t sleep nearby

[Mikhail Drabkin]

- Colleagues, tell me what is wrong? Objective air defense exists, in fact - for example, on the building of the Ministry of Defense in Moscow ... TOP - an object and military system ...

—- Oversaturation of air defense systems is a quiet horror in any area, so 25 to 50 TU-22s were supposed to participate in the attack on the AUG ... and this should be a staff nightmare before the expected offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine .. Yes, and as the attacks on Engels showed, Dzhankoy - and deep in Russia.

- And that there should be plans, and Gerasimov, in his role, is responsible for this. What do you disagree with?

— Thank you for explaining.

[flicker]

—-And that countermeasure plans have been developed, and their implementation is under the daily control of the Joint Headquarters of the Northern Military District and personally by General Gerasimov.

Well, of course, because "Putin's personal chef" helps him in this (and since Putin says that all his cooks are employees of the FSO), then it remains simply "Cook".
The “cook” is generally a brilliant person, he knows everything, he manages to do everything: it’s easy to peel potatoes, it’s easy to bombard with a navigator, it’s easy to develop an offensive plan, it’s easy to tell deputies, it’s easy to drive governors and mayors, to pour Strelkov’s substance is always.
In short, you can go on for a long time. But the main thing where he is strong is in trolling, here even his famous Olga trolls just relax. Pro "Aesopian language" generally keep quiet - really cool special!

If yours takes it, take Artemovsk, if not, we go to the Dnieper," Prigozhin said.

The head of PMC Wagner, Yevgeny Prigozhin, addressed the head of the United States Department of State, Anthony Blinken, in a personal letter. Prigozhin, according to Russian media, offered Washington to finance a certain project of PMC Wagner in Africa.

And how is this to be understood?
Mashiach no less, right?

[uncle Vlad]

Don’t touch Putin’s personal chef, he feeds all the schoolchildren in Moscow. A person is busy with business. (He feeds such crap, to be honest)

[svoroponov]

90 percent of what is attributed to Prigozhin is simply not true, and someone's opuses are often mistaken for his performances. And he jokes sometimes, so a person has a sense of humor.

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: Mikhail Drabkin

I hope that Russian staff officers do not sleep at night from the nightmare of air defense glut

If all air defense echelons are united into a single countermeasure system, and these means are enough, then I think they sleep peacefully.

[Anna E]

Well, the "chosen ones" will not fight until the last "chosen one". These are not "Papuans" like the black-haired people, these are their own citizens. Who decide who the next Monica will do nicely in the oral office, and who will bite the tuna. As soon as the losses exceed a certain threshold, the flight of the kk from Afghanistan will begin.

[And Us Rat]

Quote from Anna E.

As soon as the losses exceed a certain threshold, the flight of the kk from Afghanistan will begin.

Bullshit, learn history. Even in the 73rd, when the very existence of the country was in question, no one fled, but rather returned to the camp to protect it.
With the threat of destruction, Israel will simply take the offenders with them.
"The Israelites will go to heaven, and the enemies will simply die."

[cat-begemot]

I’m afraid that they won’t be able to, the maximum radioactive contamination in Israel, but the Arabs will survive it, they have a low population density and around a semi-desert desert. With the proper approach and diligence, the Jews will last a couple of weeks, they will simply be cut out. Too many of them have become across the throat And do not care about their nuclear weapons, it is much easier for a warrior of Allah to die for the faith than for a refined Jew for a handful of shekels or a pack of bucks. The motivation is not the same.

[private person]

will the Israelis be set on again?

Then the Israelis will kirdyk. Israel can compete with one of these countries, but it won’t pull with all of them at once, even if the Americans fit in. The Americans and Co. are now in the prerogative of the spring counteroffensive.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: private person

Israel can compete with one of these countries, but it won’t pull with all at once

Learn history. Don't write nonsense.

[Persia]

you should learn the history and stop being so arrogant, frankly make you sound stupid considering a militia built by Iran humiliated Israel in 2006
even your own expert admitted that without USA,, Iran simply too big for Israel
UZI robin said if Iran atomic facilities bombed by Israeli air plan almost 2 hours flight to get back to Israel and Iranian Khaybar shekan missile only tale 7 minute to reach Israel and by the time fighter jets arrives, there wouldn't be any Israel to land
but that would never happen because Israel not that stupid, even USA wouldn't dare to attack Iran
the most that Israel can do is cowardly terrorist assassination of scientists covertly.

[tralflot1832]

Israel, Netanyahu has a problem. The Israelis from the USA have pulled themselves up. Maidan is being drawn.

[Shurik70]

Iran and Israel will not agree to peace anyway.
The hatred has been building up for too long.
Need an encounter with a bloodbath on both sides, with a draw, only after that a "forced peace", which is strictly observed by both sides (so as not to provoke repetitions) for a couple of generations. Only then is peace possible.
Victory in the "bloodbath" of either side will not contribute to peace - Iran will simply eliminate the Jewish state itself, Israel will turn Iran into another Palestine, with completely destroyed industry, periodically bombing those who are somehow trying to raise the standard of living of the population, but without touching the oligarchs who are building palaces for themselves in the midst of impoverished ruins.
The problem is Israel's nuclear weapons. When it comes to big losses, he will use it.
So there will be no peace in the Middle East. Not in this century.

[gsev]

Quote: Shurik70

Iran and Israel will not agree to peace anyway.
The hatred has been building up for too long.

Israel has had a heated confrontation with the Arabs since the emergence of Israel. Israel made peace with Jordan after about 25 years, with Egypt after 30 years, with Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and other kingdoms of the Persian Gulf after about 60 years. Israel has been in conflict with Iran for 40 years. Although Israel had a chance to normalize relations with Syria and Iran, Israel took the side of Sunni extremists and ISIS and directed all its actions against Shiites and Alawites. These allies of Israel were severely beaten, Israeli agents in Iran were also heavily cleaned. In the event of an end to the wars in Syria, Libya and Yemen, Israel will also have to either stop its terrorist raids against Iranian science and Syrian statehood, or it will face a conflict with an allied coalition of Shiites and Sunnis.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: igorbrsv

will the Israelis be set on again?

And are they immortal?
If China joins part of the PLA, Iran pulls up its IRGC, then another exodus in ...

- What is God's choice of the Jewish people, Jeeves?
- The Lord scattered him throughout the world and doomed him to eternal wanderings, sir.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: ROSS 42

If China joins as part of the PLA,

This is out of the question. China will not fit in with Israel. NOT because he will not be able to win, or is afraid, but simply because he does not need it from the word at all. At least not a single objective reason for a military showdown between Beijing and Israel has yet been observed.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: ROSS 42

If China connects as part of the PLA

The comments of people cut off from reality, who are in a situation not in the tooth with their feet, are touching.

The PRC has been investing tens of billions of dollars in Israel every year for more than a decade. One of China's desires is to pull Israel out of the American orbit and into its own. Since Israel, like Taiwan, occupies a certain technological and industrial niche in the global economy, in which there is no one to replace it in the foreseeable future.
They are not imbeciles, jeopardizing their own investments and many years of work towards rapprochement.
If the threat to Israel exceeds a certain threshold, Beijing will simply pull Tehran by the leash and order "to the foot." Yes, and India will fit in, it is also not profitable for them, they also invested heavily.
It is easier to change a gas station than a manufacturer of exclusive goods.

[gsev]

Quote: ROSS 42

If China joins as part of the PLA,

The PRC and Israel have been military allies since about 1960-1970 against Muslim extremism and separatism in Xinjiang. Perhaps there is some share of Israel in the fact that there have been no terrorist attacks with human casualties in Xinjiang for many years. Why does China need a conflict with such an ally? Aid to China was covert but highly effective.

[Maz]

Shaw this tactic reminds me, I’m even afraid to think about where the Iranians got such competent experience and a method of mass air defense breakthrough and with whose mediation!

[Anna E]

They spied on the non-brothers. Any air defense system can accompany a finite number of targets, and fire at an even more limited number of them. Let loose a cloud of penny geraniums / shahids and overload the system as fancy as you like. And while she's chasing ghosts, work on defenseless targets

[KCA]

At one time, we talked a lot about ROFAR on TV, and then there was complete silence, I don’t believe that this topic has died out, but I really believe that working samples have appeared, on ROFAR the target is not a dot on the screen, but the contour of the target and it’s easy to understand whether the quadric is a civilian or heavy UAV, they will most likely appear on the concrete road around Moscow, and then everywhere

[Incvizitor]

Maybe some of the missiles came from the same.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: igorbrsv

Interestingly, if Syria, Iran, and the Saudis, through the mediation of the Russian Federation and China, build "special" relations, will the Israelis be set on again?

The Saudis will not get into the Iranian-Israeli showdown on the side of Iran and spoil relations with Israel, this is simply not profitable for them.
They will, like the UAE, remain neutral in this matter, maintaining relations with both.

[KCA]

What breakdowns? There is only the genocide of Iran by the IDF, constant missile attacks, I don’t see a single attack by Iran on the territory of Israel, they are Jews, they are such Jews, and they even keep a fiddle in the form of nuclear weapons in their pockets, it is necessary, it is necessary to help Iran until its Jews have rotted, the supply of a couple of tons U235 for nuclear power plant will help

[populist]

And it pleases!
How to help the Iranians so that the US is blown away from Syria. Just like from Afghanistan.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: populist

And it pleases!
How to help the Iranians so that the US is blown away from Syria. Just like from Afghanistan.

Mattresses steal Syrian oil in the amount of 30 to 40 million dollars a month. That's about half a billion a year. When their physical and material losses equal or exceed the profitability of "production", they will immediately be blown away from these fields, like jerboas from permafrost, and therefore, only regular shelling of their bases and the destruction of supply convoys with columns of oil tanks can contribute their "deflation". They will not conduct a full-fledged military operation against Iraq, Syria and Iran, because of half a billion dollars. the cost will outweigh the loss. They are now stealing oil only because they are in Syria in almost greenhouse conditions, under protection and with the assistance of Kurds.

[Grits]

Quote: populist

How to help the Iranians so that the US is blown away from Syria. Just like from Afghanistan.

Only powerful and numerous air defense. To stand in Syria and Iraq. After the next American base is fired upon by missiles, this air defense should be ready to immediately meet those who like to fly the F-16

[Anna E]

Judging by the events on the outskirts, we ourselves are sorely lacking it. Even the base of "strategists" is not a secret.

[tralflot1832]

That is why the American media are commenting on this sideways: one UAV and 10 missiles, one killed from the servants.

[tralflot1832]

If "unverified data" is confirmed, this news may overshadow Ukraine today. We are waiting for America to sleep.

[rotmistr60]

the United States faces the risk of losses among its military personnel

Great news about the strike on the base, the defeat of the convoy, the losses among the Americans. The Americans will be "pleased" to hear that their air defense systems failed to cope with Iranian missiles. In a word, the day was a success in Syria.

[igorbrsv]

Yes, there are only 500 Merikos people, it seems, only so that the Kurds are left to "build" so that oil does not stop pumping. Maybe Iran would be better off hitting drilling rigs
The Merikos would have lost interest in the area, the Turks would disperse the Kurds.

[DMFalke]

Well, NASAMS, as it were, is not American in origin, so the flow of slops can be drained onto the Norwegians as a result

[Karl123]

Well, amers will not have oil, inflation will accelerate. What will Nabiulina do to keep the assets of the friends of one popular person? She has always supported the dollar at the expense of Russia. And therefore has always been the best central banker. In 2015, she was awarded this title, and recently Christine Lagarde, in a dialogue with Lexus and Vovan, again praised her. So do not rejoice, ordinary Russians will definitely not get anything from these attacks. A bowl of rice will be more expensive in Russia than the dollar is more expensive. Because this is happening now, and always happened.

[Anna E]

I don't know the price of a bowl of rice. I don't remember the last time I bought rice. If you buy rice in bowls for cash dollars, I sympathize with you.

[Arkadich]

Let's not forget that the United States has air superiority in that area, and since they are not bound by any moral and ethical principles, they will respond harshly.

[vorobejti]

The exchange of a series of blows may well develop into something more.

[Arkadich]

I don't think it will grow. There is no real force against the Americans in this area, the Kurds are behind them, and Iran will not openly get involved in Syria for the Shiite partisans.

[Grits]

Quote: Arkadich

Let's not forget that the United States has air superiority in that area, and since they are not bound by any moral and ethical principles, they will respond harshly.

Air defense, air defense and again air defense. Ukraine has shown that the saturation of air defense completely discourages the desire to fly aircraft over its territory. Regrettably, these planes are ours.

[Arkadich]

Air defense is different. If you give them MANPADS, then they will not play a big role, well, at the beginning only on the effect of surprise, but something more serious, at whose expense is the banquet?

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Gritsa

Ukraine has shown that the saturation of air defense completely discourages the desire to fly aircraft over its territory.

Clarification - discourages the desire of the Air Force, which does not have a sufficient and well-developed system for countering and suppressing air defense.
If Ukraine were an adversary, for example, Israel, Kiev would have no air defenses long ago, and they would have been ironed from the air as the left heel wanted.

[Arkadich]

I don’t think Israel has brains in its left heel. Do you cite Israel's achievements in "suppressing" air defense using the example of Syria?
So the Syrian air defense with the Ukrainian one is an order of magnitude worse, but even the Israeli Air Force is afraid of this, entries into the airspace are single and very short-lived.

[Mikhail3]

Iranian missiles today have reached such a technological level that allows you to easily reset the effectiveness of the built American air defense system

Terrible. NTR on the march

The first wave of attack "loaded" the air defense to the maximum,

Ah, here's the thing) Junk drones from Ali simply took on a few missiles of air defense systems, after which you can destroy with impunity what you want with the same drones, with bags of explosives tied to them with adhesive tape. The entire attack apparently came out cheaper than one American air defense missile.
This is not a scientific and technological revolution, it is the Persians who have a much more formidable weapon - common sense. That is, their command thinks not so much about theft as about war. A very strange position, in the world almost nowhere is now unpopular. You can't steal anything from penny drones! It is necessary to order rockets for a million dollars each, launchers for fifty million and all that. From all this, the exhaust is great!
Today, a TV report showed how people in the DPR are converting drones with Ali for war. It wouldn’t be nice to wait a bit, then the funding will be divided in the Moscow Region, and just about, in three years, our drones will appear at the price of a cast-iron bridge ...

[boris ivanov]

What good news for morning coffee!

[Joker62]

Iranian missiles and drones "loaded" US NASAMS air defense systems, eventually breaking through air defense

Bravo, Persians! Well, they were "shuffled" in soft places ...
Also about feeling the "concerned" from the land of the "promised ...

[Dargavs]

Interestingly, it was in that area that the Wagners were once severely beaten with the help of aviation, isn’t it time to put things in order there and give a screwdriver together?

[Grandfather Fichteau]

Quote: DargAVS

Interestingly, it was in that area that the Wagners were once severely beaten with the help of aviation, isn’t it time to put things in order there and give a screwdriver together?

We remember everything, but revenge should be a cold dish
Assad later visited Xi in Moscow .. Seeing everything is interconnected

[Anna E]

"Steel is born in fire and under hammer blows." Thanks to the amers, I must say that they taught me in time.

[Joker62]

Quote: Shurik70

Iran and Israel will not agree to peace anyway.
The hatred has been building up for too long.
Need an encounter with a bloodbath on both sides, with a draw, only after that a "forced peace", which is strictly observed by both sides (so as not to provoke repetitions) for a couple of generations. Only then is peace possible.
Victory in the "bloodbath" of either side will not contribute to peace - Iran will simply eliminate the Jewish state itself, Israel will turn Iran into another Palestine, with completely destroyed industry, periodically bombing those who are somehow trying to raise the standard of living of the population, but without touching the oligarchs who are building palaces for themselves in the midst of impoverished ruins.
The problem is Israel's nuclear weapons. When it comes to big losses, he will use it.
So there will be no peace in the Middle East. Not in this century.

And who did more hate?
The horse understands, "God's chosen ones" ... As for the Iranians, they are Persians, they suffered for a long time from arrogance from both the Israelis and so from the impudent Saxons.
There is a limit to everything.
If politicians from Israel and arrogant Saxons (USA and England) do not take the mind and do not sit down at the negotiating table - be in big trouble!

[Grandfather Fichteau]

eventually breaking through air defense

This is a signal to Israel, etc. Deliveries to the outskirts go by to see And actively studied and tested

[JonnyT]

These bastards will also answer for Der Erzor, Wagner will definitely remind the Americans of this .... Free oil from Konoko is over ..... it will be very good if the Kurds also start to hammer the American invaders

[Radical]

... Iranian missiles and drones "loaded" US NASAMS air defense systems, eventually breaking through air defense

Iran succeeds, why can't we?

[Anna E]

Old, old song. The time of perestroika.

“We’re fucked in the drawbar, but the Hungarians got it, we fucked in the drawbar, but the Czechs got it ...” Although the authors had in mind something completely different and they didn’t even see IT in a nightmare, they guessed the essence of the phenomenon correctly.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Radikal

Iran succeeds, why can't we?

Grandfather at the reception of a sex therapist:
- Doctor, more than 3 times a week with my wife does not work.
- Grandfather, how old are you?
- 85.
- Grandfather, well this is excellent!
- Yes? And my neighbor says that with his wife every day, and he is 95!
- Well, so you say!

[Msi]

It's time to kick the Americans out of Syria. To save lives and the country, Assad needs to repay Russia's debts ...

[aakvit]

Well done Persians! The Sams are loaded as they should, as they should!

[Jsem_CZEKO68]

I am in favor of forcibly expelling the United States from all territories of the world, where they rob and steal without permission what does not belong to them!! Of course from Ukraine!!

[Sasha Koblov]

Iran does not have nuclear weapons, but they will use them if necessary.
And these bandits in Amer. it is high time to cover the bases in Syria so that life does not seem like honey.

[Sibiryak70region]

Iran well done. They are not afraid to hit the pindosam, unlike our parquet generals and other Red Lines who like to shake their fists. Probably the Iranian elites do not have real estate and children in Europe and pindostane. Therefore, the brave

[lopvlad]

Iranian missiles and drones "loaded" US NASAMS air defense systems, eventually breaking through air defense

sintered on more than 20 missiles. American air defense systems in a real war directly show an example of "effective interception".

[shark507]

Quote: Mikhail Drabkin

- Colleagues, tell me what is wrong?

It's not that you're wrong, but that you "offended" the regular military, poking their muzzles into their utter worthlessness, so they rushed to downvote. And of course, "who are you to judge! You're not a professional!"

[Mobik]

Why does not Syria have its own proxies, some kind of "Syrian Liberation Army", which we would help in the fight against international terrorism. Why does non-nuclear Iran have the balls to bomb American bases directly, while our guarantor does not even through a proxy.

[Uncle_Misha]

The article does not contain information about the composition and number of air defenses covering this area, as well as about the means of warning about missile launches. There is also no information about Iranian missiles, their types, and, importantly, about flight time. That's when this info appears, it will be possible to talk about an air defense breakthrough

[bravo77]

Quote: lopvlad

Quote: g_ae

Something I have not heard about the flights of Russian aviation over the front line.

even the oldest air defense will successfully overwhelm any modern aircraft, and this was confirmed back in Yugoslavia when the object air defense complex of the 60s overwhelmed the invisible F-117.
Therefore, the effectiveness of a modern air defense system is assessed by its ability to repel a massive raid of cruise missiles, planning bombs, drones, and Ukraine's air defense is incapable of this.

Yes
but is capable of moving hundreds of armored vehicles over 1000+ km through strategic points
no air defense, what it protects works

[bravo77]

Quote: Mobik

Why does not Syria have its own proxies, some kind of "Syrian Liberation Army", which we would help in the fight against international terrorism. Why does non-nuclear Iran have the balls to bomb American bases directly, while our guarantor does not even through a proxy.

because it hasn't even "started" even from a plane shot down by the Turks
or "because - because"
red lines - gestures of goodwill - exchanges for godfathers - grain deals - operating refineries, pipelines
who wanted to understand for a long time and does not ask stupid questions

[Slavs B]

It certainly sounds promising. If the United States has problems in the Middle East (and this is the most painful American place - a pocket), then maybe they will not have so much enthusiasm for Ukraine?

[Comrade Kim]

Quote: Metallurg_2

I think that in this case there will not be enough b-chosen ones. Will end quickly.

It's a pity that you are wrong.
The influx of migrants to Israel does not stop.
Moreover, they go there even from relatively calm countries.
Repatriates are not afraid of anything.
Attacks, Arabs with knives, or Netanyahu's insane policies don't stop anyone.

Since the beginning of the JMD, there has been a steady increase in the flow of Israeli mercenaries.
Of course, Ukrainian-Jewish Ukrainians go to help the Ukrainian Nazis.

The quality of the training of Jewish Nazi assistants from Israel is appreciated by the Bendera regime.

In negotiations for the exchange of prisoners, Jewish fascists are exchanged out of turn.
Moreover, they also set the condition that the fact of the exchange of Israeli Nazis be hidden from the broad masses in the Russian Federation.
At home, in Israel, they are greeted as heroes.

[Zaurbek]

With a raid of Geraniums, the air defense system will not cope. That's right, they started doing it. The transfer of production to the authorities of the SAR - our orders, to our enterprises and the payment of debts and the purchase of military equipment.
Next Turks

[PavelT]

The Iranians and the Syrians also need to load their air defenses and hit the targets of the US base in Al Tanf (Eng. Al Tanf, Arabic. التَنْف‎) on the border with Jordan. Finally teach them.

Heavy weapons and rocket artillery units are deployed on the territory of the base, including armored vehicles and highly mobile universal MLRS / OTRK HIMARS systems of the US Armed Forces. The exact amount of equipment concentrated in Al-Tanf is unknown.

The US military base area is monitored around the clock by American unmanned aerial vehicles and military patrols.

Aviation of the international coalition twice - in May and June 2017 - attacked the troops of Damascus, who were in the immediate vicinity of the training camps. After that, leaflets were distributed along the perimeter of the 55-kilometer zone warning not to approach Al-Tanf.

According to some Arab media, Bashar al-Assad's army units were not going to attack the American base.

In addition, on June 20, 2017, a US Air Force F-15E fighter shot down an unmanned aerial "Shahid-129"owned by the SAA. According to the American side, he threatened the safety of the personnel of the base.