Palestinians use Kornet-E anti-tank systems

The Palestinian militant group Al-Quds Brigade (the military wing of the Islamic Jihad group) distributed a video demonstrating the use of the Russian portable anti-tank missile system 9K135E Cornet-E against Israeli forces on the Gaza Strip and Israel. The video shows how a rocket is launched by a female operator (?) From a residential building. This attack, according to the statement of the Al-Quds Brigade, was made on November 20 2012 of the year against "congregation of Zionist soldiers" in the Eshkol region. As a result of the attack, according to the Brigade communique, "one Zionist soldier was killed and 11 was injured." 20 November, the Israeli army reported the death of one soldier in the Eshkol area "as a result of mortar shelling."

This is the first known image of the Kornet-E ATGM in the hands of the Palestinians. Previously, only the use of this complex by Palestinian groups without supporting photo or video was reported. The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine claimed the use of the Cornet-E complex on November 10 2012, when they were hit by an Israeli light armored vehicle MDT David (Land Rover) and injured four Israeli soldiers. 7 April 2011, Hamas militants hit an Israeli school bus with a Kornet-E missile and hit one person. And the first Palestinian use of the Kornet-E on the Gaza border was 6 and December 2010, when the Israeli Merkava Mk 3 tank was shot down by the complex.

Comments

[Common sense]

Then I wonder why there are so many corpses of children.
From the apartment building on the tank with a rocket - and do not care that families with children live in the house, and the tanks will shoot at the rocket exit point.

[axmed05]

In the video, a woman is exactly like a man.

[alex-defensor]

Quote: Common sense

Then I wonder why there are so many corpses of children.
From the apartment building on the tank with a rocket - and do not care that families with children live in the house, and the tanks will shoot at the rocket exit point.

You really can’t say anything ...

[axmed05]

Quote: alex-defensor

You really can’t say anything ...

You are too naive if you believed that the anti-tank complex shot at a crowd of people. The video is fake.

[Kars]

And the first use of the Kornet-E by the Palestinians on the border of the Gaza Strip took place on December 6, 2010, when the Israeli tank Merkava Mk 3 was hit by a complex.

By the way, what do our Israeli comrades say about this? There was, wasn’t? Maybe the photo will be shared --- as they say the press is free. Or is it still censoring?

[Pimply]

Lack of photos doesn't mean censorship. This means the absence of a photographer next to the tank. Or do you assume that every tank that is hit will be immediately photographed by the army on its own and posted on the net? Photographed - yes, for public access - with what joy, what kind of nonsense? Censorship, first of all, concerns the indication of the location of bases, the faces of soldiers, etc. If a journalist has photographed a battered tank, then, as it were, the censorship is unlikely to pull the handle to it. If only because I hadn’t delayed before - otherwise you would not have seen the pictures of the damaged Merkavs. What kind of kindergarten? What kind of censorship?

"According to a senior Israeli military, the Kornet missile pierced the armor of the Merkava-3 tank, which was patrolling an electronic barrage installed along the border with the troubled Gaza Strip. The armored car crew was saved only by the fact that, for an unknown reason, the Kornet missile did not explode. However, according to Israeli sources, the tank was hit. "
This is relative to the case itself. And your favorite censorship. Data a year ago with a hook in the Russian press, in the Israeli - a little earlier. Type of missile indicated, penetration recognized, etc.

[igor67]

Pimply,
There was a video shown on TV, I can’t find

[Kars]

Quote: Pimply

Censorship,

Here it is. And many of your compatriots say that you can’t hide anything and so on and so forth.

Quote: Pimply

it would be because I hadn’t delayed before - otherwise you would not have seen the photos of the damaged Merkavs. What kind of kindergarten? What kind of censorship?

The most natural. A few dozen photos is the most insistent censorship, which means restrictions on the actions of journalists, etc., etc.

Quote: Pimply

However, according to Israeli sources, the tank was hit. "

Well, one woman said it from the category, probably someone from the crew was disheveled on Facebook, and there was nothing left to do. And the tank itself would have removed the crew’s phones, when the workers of the tank repair plant were brought to the plant.

And so, if the penetration were harmless or if there wasn’t a press service, the IDF would have made a press release with invulnerability. In comparison with Israel, the freedom of speech and the national journalists are compared to Israel.

And by the way, that the use of Kornets in 2006 is not confirmed, and they would have boasted without a doubt.

[Pimply]

Quote: Kars

Here it is. And many of your compatriots say that you can’t hide anything and so on and so forth.

Tell me, do you hear what I'm talking about, or don’t even try.
You can’t hide anything. In such moments as real losses, names of the dead, etc. There is military censorship, but it is quite limited, and concerns such things as the exact location of units (although this, in fact, has long been known), details of military operations, names of, say, pilots, etc.
Issues such as real losses, injured, what weapons the enemy uses are open. Yes, in most cases I won’t tell you where exactly the rocket hit - because it would be nonsense. You confuse freedom of speech with anarchy, you raise everything to a certain absolute. He's not around. As there is no absolute justice, absolute democracy and other things.

I told you about five times what about censorship. If you noticed, the tank in Igor’s report was shot by not-the most friendly Israeli channel - Al-Jazeera. Nevertheless, the channel in Israel has a representative office and is actively filming.

You are now reasoning from the perspective of a five-year-old child, not an adult, and as I thought, a smart enough man.

And in 2006 they boasted of cornets. You just need to search for information on the Internet.

October 22, 2011. The head of the Hezbollah’s Moscow-based delegation, Muhammad Raad, thanked Russia for the weapons with which Hezbollah, according to Raad, “crushed the Israeli occupiers.” A quote from the Lebanese terrorist's thank-you note is quoted by Islamnews:
“If in the last century the“ Kalashnikov ”was a symbol of resistance and the struggle for freedom, then in our century the Russian rocket“ Cornet ”became such a symbol, with the help of which Hezbollah crushed the Israeli occupiers. In particular, thanks to the accuracy and power of the missiles, it was possible to destroy the myth of the Israeli Merkava tank, thus discovering its weaknesses and limited capabilities, ”said Raad.

Honestly, I don't understand - you really don't understand how the press and press services work, what do both of them do? If you want, I'll explain to you - because I worked from both sides. Sorry, but your "fabrications", both from that point of view and from another point of view, are nonsense.

[Kars]

Quote: Pimply

Honestly, I don’t understand - you really don’t understand how the press and press services work, what both do

I can clearly see that there is censorship and silence of information. In the video of the Merkava, the best tank in the world there is no mention that it was broken by a substandard rocket in 2010.
I see that the photo of the padded mercenaries is LESS than the photo of the padded Abrams and I see in this the work of censorship, you can rename it somehow.

Quote: Pimply

there is a military one, but it is quite limited, and concerns such things as the exact location of the units (although this, in fact, has long been known), details of military operations, names of, say, pilots, etc.

Yes, I don’t need this, I need a photo of the wrecked Merkav, I need a Monograph of the Merkava tanks in the Second Lebanon War

Quote: Pimply

I'm sorry, but your "ismyshlizmy", both from that and from the other point of view, are nonsense.

They will become him when I see such a page in Hebrew with merkava.

[Pimply]

Sorry, this is a circus. I thought I’m talking with an adult.

[Kars]

Quote: Pimply

Sorry, this is a circus. I thought I’m talking with an adult

the circus - kindergarten - a day nursery - I personally don’t care, but the fact remains that there are no photos, and I can’t appreciate the security and effectiveness of Merkav in real hostilities.


can something similar to this?

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: Kars

can something similar to this?

Jews position themselves as wise people, and wise people learn from the mistakes of others, so that it would not be like with the Americans, they do not show their wrecked tanks to anyone.
So bummer.

[Kars]

Damn, and from this picture in combat conditions, someone will really die without knocking Abrams.

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: Kars

Damn, and from this picture in combat conditions, someone will really die without knocking Abrams.

Somehow the picture "hit with a shovel on the vulnerable spots of the Abrams" slipped through, but it was not at hand, I don't want to look for something today ..

[Rumata]

Quote: Kars

By the way, what do our Israeli comrades say about this? There was, wasn’t? Maybe the photo will be shared --- as they say the press is free. Or is it still censoring?

A hundred times already explained, all in any way.
"Censorship (lat. Censura) control of the authorities over the content and dissemination of information, printed materials, musical and stage works, works of art, film and photo works, radio and television broadcasts, websites and portals, in some cases also private correspondence, in order to limit or prevent the dissemination of ideas and information recognized by this authority as harmful or undesirable "
How does it fit in that the Army does not publish its photographs? Is it censorship? So I personally was in Lebanon at the damaged tank, and none of the soldiers took pictures, no one forbade, there was nobody to photograph, there is no need to attribute censorship here, if someone photographs a damaged tank, they will not do anything to him, this is a fact.

[Kars]

Quote: Rumata

no one forbade, there was simply no one to photograph

The poor, there are fewer photo and video recorders than the Germans in 1941.
There is something to photograph, not here.

[Kars]

It’s interesting, but there are generally similar photos like those with this unknown (to me personally) American military, only near Merkava who received military damage.?

[Rumata]

Quote: Kars

The poor, there are fewer photo and video recorders than the Germans in 1941.
There is something to photograph, not here.

Is this such trolling, or do I not understand something? The Army itself has photos, we didn’t take pictures, it didn’t occur to me to photograph a wrecked tank, unlike you, this is not my fetish. I don’t understand this strange argument “there are no hundreds of photos in the public domain, censorship”, my entire service, 3 years, took pictures at all bases where I was, if it was prohibited, we were warned, but otherwise I did not feel any pressure on myself censorship, strict bans, and so on, although there is a whole collection of photographs from military operations in Gaza, pierced by armored personnel carriers, D-9s and Akhzarits with broken tracks. I didn’t feel censorship on myself, but of course I’m lying, in Lebanon we were all eager to take pictures of the damaged equipment, but we were forbidden under threat of rubbing it ..
Some circus

[Kars]

Quote: Rumata

There are photographs of the army by itself, we didn’t take pictures, it didn’t occur to me to photograph a wrecked tank, unlike you, this is not my fetish

Really?

Quote: Rumata

there was simply no one to photograph with

before that it wasn’t. And your fetishes touch me a little, I have a passion for armored vehicles.

Quote: Rumata

the strange argument "there are no hundreds of photos in the public domain, censorship"

BUT they are not really there, as there are almost no photos from the time of 1973 with lined Israeli technology, there is an Arab photo, yours is not, even though you officially recognize 400 units. Although maybe I'm wrong and you tell me the places where the photos are but with Israeli armor, you can still from factories

Quote: Rumata

Of course, I’m lying, in Lebanon we were all eager to take photos of the damaged equipment, but we were banned under threat of rubbing ..

Well, since you weren’t shot ---))))))

[Rumata]

Quote: Kars

BUT they are really not, as there are almost no photos from the time of 1973 with lined Israeli technology, photo

I don’t know what was there in 73 and I don’t know why there are no pictures of wrecked tanks, but this is definitely not due to censorship. For 3 years of the deadline, VLV, Cast Lead, I did not encounter strict prohibitions on photographing something, they naturally said not to transfer positions, geographical names, etc., but no one said "Hey, you get away from the Merkava \ Akhzarite \ UFO and not dare to take a picture, "IDF soldiers do not like to engage in exhibitionism, take pictures and lay out their wrecked tanks, what can you do, it's not destiny for you to make sure that the Merkava is protected.
That tank was knocked down, why should I, a soldier, take pictures of it and upload it to the Internet? I can’t find any reason to do this, and there was no Press in Lebanon, so where do you get a lot of photos from?

[Kars]

Quote: Rumata

I don’t know what happened in the 73rd and I don’t know why there are no shrines of photos of wrecked tanks

It's a shame, annoying but okay.

Quote: Rumata

That tank was knocked down, why should I, a soldier, take pictures of it and upload it to the Internet? I can’t find any reason to do this,

Well, do not find, do not find.

Quote: Rumata

it’s not your fate to make sure that Merkava is protected.

Well, at night, I can conclude from the absence of a photo (for now you don’t find it, the gases from the soldiers find dancing with weapons on the streets) and this statement

Quote: Pimply

the Kornet rocket pierced the armor of the Merkava-3 tank, which patrolled an electronic fence mounted along the border with the turbulent Gaza Strip. The crew of the armored car was saved only because, for an unknown reason, the Kornet rocket did not explode

weak armor protection, which indirectly confirms the persistence with the introduction of the KAZ Trophy suitable only for such small surprises, but not for a real battle.

Quote: Rumata

There was no press in Lebanon, so where do many photos come from?

It was also strange in Iraq, it was in Chechnya, it was in Libya, Syria overwhelmed the Internet photo and video, but there was no Lebanon.

Well, you can end this discussion, at least you can do your bit --- by posting your photos, and see for a long time they will go on the network or not.

[Oboz]

In the photo is the joker Galkin?

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: Rumata

no one forbade, there was simply no one to photograph

Yes, there are no cameras with cameras in Israel, Americans do not sell.

[igor67]

Kars,
On December 6, the Russian Kornet anti-tank complex (ATGM) was successfully used against Israeli armored vehicles in Palestine for the first time. The Israelis acknowledged the fact that the Merkava-3 tank had been hit.

This was announced by the chief of the Israeli General Staff Gabi Ashkenazi. It is noteworthy that this statement was made during a meeting of the parliamentary commission on foreign affairs and defense. The senior Israeli military said that "we are talking about a heavy missile, one of the most dangerous in our region."

Ashkenazi said the Kornet missile managed to penetrate the armor of the Merkava that was patrolling an electronic fence along the border with the Gaza Strip. The tank's crew was saved only by the fact that, for some unknown reason, the Kornet's rocket did not explode. Nevertheless, according to Israeli sources, the tank was hit.

[Kars]

Quote: igor67

Ashkenazi said the Kornet missile managed to penetrate the armor of the Merkava that was patrolling an electronic fence along the border with the Gaza Strip. The tank's crew was saved only by the fact that, for some unknown reason, the Kornet's rocket did not explode. Nevertheless, according to Israeli sources, the tank was hit.

Thank you.

[igor67]

Kars,
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=RzVEduKGUws

[Kars]

Quote: igor67

http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=RzVEduKGUws

forever this letter m spoils everything.

[hrych]

What will the specialists say? If it is cumulative, then its task is to burn through, if Merkova’s tank is destroyed, then the cumulative coped. Why would a rocket explode?

[Kars]

Quote: hrych

if Merkova’s tank is destroyed, then the cumulative coped. Why would a rocket explode?

Here, most likely, we are talking about the failure of the main cumulative charge of the tandem warhead of the ATGM ATK Cornet. Which even more calls into question the protection of the Merkava 3 MBT, and which has been changed (especially the side of the tower) recently.
Well, thanks to the openness of the Israeli military, we don’t know which projection hit the rocket, and how much the tank was damaged. The absence of victims indicates minor damage.

[Horde]

As a result of the attack, according to the Brigades communiqué, "one Zionist soldier was killed and 11 wounded." On November 20, the Israeli army reported the death of one soldier in the Eshkol area "as a result of mortar attacks."

if my aunt shot a cumulative ammunition, which is of course very wasteful, then she probably took a good aim at one soldier. I imagine what was left of the poor fellow when the cumulative charge got nnda ... If the aunt used thermobaric ammunition then the fatalities should be bigger. This is an article.

[Pimply]

This is not an aunt. Men in the East seem to wear handkerchiefs, and very often. Women wear scarves of a completely different type.

[Khabarov]

The news is sucked from a "biblical place". In general, women are a terrible force.

[loki565]

Kars,
Strange as there are no photos and videos, type on youtube: Hezbollah fighters against Merkava tanks (Lebanon, 2006) or AT-4 Fagot, AT-14 Kornet vs Merkava in Lebanon. You can see the defeat and consequences of both the photo and video, but it’s not clear what it’s the merkavu that hit ....

[loki565]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zglAX5axIos&feature=related

[loki565]

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[loki565]

http://youtu.be/zglAX5axIos

[loki565]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zglAX5axIos

[loki565]

[loki565]

t;

[loki565]

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[loki565]

[loki565]

[hit media = http: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = zglAX5axIos]

[loki565]

hit

[media = http: //youtu.be/zglAX5axIos]

[loki565]

hitting but the crew is alive

[Kars]

And what are we seeing here? Basically nothing. It could be Cornet, could Baby.
The crew is alive but left the car. It is interesting by what loss category it will pass. And by the way, you can see how a mobile phone is being used. If you believe Pupyrchaty, you can wait for an impact on a scored billing))))))

[loki565]

there is a piece of this video from a different angle

[phantom359]

Man, aunt - what's the difference? The main thing is that I would not have missed. Merkava is a good tank, but it burns no worse than others, whatever they say and it has enough failures without combat damage.