Forget huaqiao or the bright image of a Chinese tourist

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Forget huaqiao or the bright image of a Chinese tourist


A different kind of migrant


Migrants today have become a necessary element of our lives. At the same time, in recent years, every tenth foreigner who came to Russia is a Chinese citizen, as follows from the data of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation for the first half of 2019. Note that this was a pre-Covid year. New data will probably follow the results of this year.



So far, the Chinese have mainly come to Russia for a short time, as tourists. The times of huaqiao, disenfranchised Chinese who worked in Russia wherever possible, and more often not, are long gone. By February 2018, according to the impartial SPARK system, 5 companies were registered in our country, among the owners of which were individuals and legal entities from China.

And this is only part of the picture, since "large Chinese business comes to our country, as a rule, through the jurisdictions of third countries." Most of all, according to the same SPARK system, legal entities with Chinese participation are registered in Moscow, Primorye, St. Petersburg and the Amur Region. Chinese business is represented in 696 different activities.

At the same time, the number of firms reporting income exceeding at least 100 thousand rubles a year was “much more modest” - 1. According to the audit company Ernst & Young, the Chinese in Russia are attracted by the volume of the domestic market and natural resources. At the same time, the cost of labor resources, the tax and legal framework do not suit them.

What is there in Transbaikalia?


Is Russia leasing its land to the Chinese? The question is ill-defined. All information is extremely contradictory. Here news more from June 2015 from yakutia.info. In Transbaikalia, the Chinese company Zoje Resources Investment leased land the size of Hong Kong for 49 years.

The news of February 26, 2018, on the contrary, reads (interfax.ru): “Information on social networks that 49 hectares of land were leased to the Chinese in the Trans-Baikal Territory for 115 years is not true, Interfax was told on Monday” in the press service of the head of the region.

“This is disinformation, such an agreement was not concluded,” the press service added. The agency said that, they say, the governor of the region Konstantin Ilkovsky really negotiated with the Chinese Zoje Resources Investment on the implementation of a joint project, an agreement of intent was signed. But that's all.

And here is the site of Chita. ru reports on December 22, 2022:

“In the fall of 2022, several publications appeared on the Web about how the Chinese company Zhishengchan leased land in Russia near the border - in the Krasnokamensky district of Transbaikalia near Kailastui. The fields are supposed to be used for growing cereals.
Krasnokamensk groups talk about the dissatisfaction of the local residents of the Kailastui settlement, as well as the fact that long-term land leases can become a cover for illegal migration, because it will be very difficult to track the flow of workers from the Middle Kingdom.

Journalists of the publication noted that we are talking about land on the Bambakai pad, which is located 8–10 kilometers from the border with China and about 4–5 kilometers southeast of the industrial site of the Priargunsky Production Mining and Chemical Association (PIMCU). Since Soviet times, radioactive waste has been stored on these lands. The authorized capital of the company is 10 thousand rubles.

The company intends to grow crops on all leased lands. Part of the goods will remain in Russia, but export to China is also planned. It was also reported that before leasing the land, the company took soil samples, which showed that everything was in order: there was no radiation contamination.

Indeed, PIMCU once existed on these lands. According to Chita.Ru sources, PIMCU did not receive the land, but the Zhishengchan company did. The journalist was unable to get a comment from the PIMCU press service, however, it became known that they needed the land for

“ensuring the implementation of a project that is strategically important for the development of the Trans-Baikal Territory and the state as a whole to ensure the defense capability of the state, namely the investment project “Development of the Argun and Zherlovoye uranium deposits”.


These are, as they say, pies. Does the agreement with the Chinese firm have a corruption component? What is more important: growing crops or developing uranium deposits? Tricky question!

Who are you, Chinese tourist?


To date, the recovery of tourism from China to Russia is hindered by a number of factors. The main one is that the visa-free travel agreement has not yet been renewed: due to the pandemic, the visa-free travel agreement was suspended in January 2021.

There are other obstacles as well.

Due to sanctions, international bank cards of the Visa and MasterCard systems do not work in the Russian Federation, and the plastic of the Chinese Union Pay system is not accepted everywhere, and it does not always work. And in general, according to experts, it is time for our business to get rid of inflated expectations regarding Chinese tourism.

The reason is that tourists from China use the services of their own tour operators, guides and other partners. Russian companies hardly participate in the chain. The most terrible truth: the flow of Chinese tourists who came to Russia in the pre-COVID period enriched, first of all, Chinese business.

The main surplus value remains in his hands, and Russia earns only "on tickets and chocolates." Transportation, hotel, buffet meals and Chinese guide services are paid for in China at a Chinese travel agency.

The place of the Russian travel agency in this scheme is very modest. In fact, it is only needed to send the invitation form for the Chinese group. That is, the Chinese tourist leaves almost all the money for the tour at home and travels to Russia with a small amount for "pocket expenses".

According to the Association of Tour Operators of Russia, only 50% of organized tourists from China are served legally in Russia, the rest have long been under the wing of gray Chinese companies. Other researchers claim that no more than 20% of Chinese tourists are legally served in the Russian Federation.

Their guides are also Chinese, more often illegal immigrants from among foreigners who act on behalf of certain unscrupulous Chinese tour operators. But, some will say, are the Chinese already traveling and flying on our trains and planes?!

This means that Russian Railways and Aeroflot receive money. But there are nuances here too. The truth is that most often the Chinese get to Russia on charter flights of Chinese airlines, and in the city, whether it be Moscow or St. Petersburg, they travel on buses owned by local Chinese businessmen.


All these cafes and shops represent a fairly narrow segment of the market, sharpened by the Chinese. And behind it stands either Chinese capital and Chinese managers, or that thin layer of Russian business that worked closely with them. By the way, Chinese guides take groups to Chinese canteens, the founders of which are also Chinese. Even the souvenir shops where Chinese tourists usually go are also owned by Chinese businesses.

And in the end?


The development of the Far East is a Russian problem, not a Chinese one. The Chinese know why they need the Russian Far East. They need: a peaceful border - one, the raw materials of the Far East - two, a transport artery - three. First of all, the south of the Far East.

So, it is hardly worth relying on China so much. No one can help us but ourselves. We can skillfully use China's interests, China's potential and learn from China to use this potential. Here you just need to answer the question: “Why do we need China?”

I would especially like to emphasize that the exchange of raw materials for finished products is not an option. We need a completely different approach, a different level of our relationship. And don't expect China to sacrifice anything for Russia. He has his own national interests and state nationalism.

For the Chinese, China is above all: the Chinese idea, the Chinese dream, the rebirth of the great Chinese nation. And what can we do to counter this? So far, alas, nothing! We still have neither a national ideology, nor a national task, nor our own picture of the future. The only thing that can be noted is that China is now strengthening its position as a global power. And here the support of Russia is important for him. Here we have a vision of the world approximately the same as China. That's all.
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  1. -6
    25 March 2023 04: 28
    padi Bambakai, which is located 8–10 kilometers from the border with China and about 4–5 kilometers southeast of the industrial site of the Priargunsky Mining and Chemical Production Association (PIMCU)...
    ...Radioactive waste has been stored on these lands since Soviet times.
    Author, do not pull an owl on the globe so hellishly! What does the development of an abandoned site of liquid waste dumping have to do with deposits?
    "Development of the Argun and Zherlovoy uranium deposits".


    That is, the Chinese tourist leaves almost all the money for the tour at home and travels to Russia with a small amount for "pocket expenses".
    No, okay, the author has no idea about cultural influence, but should she at least know something about paying taxes?

    For the Chinese, China is above all: the Chinese idea, the Chinese dream, the rebirth of the great Chinese nation. And what can we do to counter this?
    Go to war? Why should we oppose something to this, until it is at our expense? It was at our expense that the West destroyed us.
    Here the State Department directly pulls from this article, whether the author wanted it or not.
    1. +1
      25 March 2023 22: 05
      Not everything is lost for Russia .... We must learn (not zapadlo ... by the way) from the same China HARD WORK, DISCIPLINE and WISE TAX POLICY, which will stimulate the development of the countryside and the processing industry in the Russian Federation ... But, with filthy and ANTI-NATIONAL (!!!) ideology of wild, usurious, corrupt and NOMENCLATURAL capitalism - THIS IN RUSSIA CANNOT BE ACHIEVED A PRIORI, in principle and by definition ... Until they learn ALSO CRUELLY in Russia (yes, up to the death penalty ...) PUNISH for corruption, embezzlement and the creation of organized crime groups - werewolves in ties, shoulder straps and their wards in tattoos (leaders of organized crime groups ...) - any good Russian intentions and reforms WILL SLIP in place ... Raw materials should be prohibited from being exported to China (and not only ...), and in return it is necessary to encourage the export of FINISHED PRODUCTS (preferably science-intensive). In a couple of years, Russia is unlikely to achieve this, but the road will be mastered by the one walking who takes the risk and takes the FIRST step in the RIGHT DIRECTION ... It is necessary to repeat the experience of China in the early 80s of the twentieth century, namely, to create attractive CONDITIONS ( taxes, land rent, electricity, gas, legislation is stable and without bureaucratic-nomenclature show off for 25 years ...) for China's advanced enterprises in the Far East, BUT - the workforce is exclusively CITIZENS OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION (it is necessary - let our workers be trained, and they don’t want to teach our workers the secrets of advanced production in order to start their own - immediately cancel all licenses and permits ...). And engineers and managers - you can also import from China for a start ...
      1. 0
        27 March 2023 14: 57
        Everything must be decided on our own ... for a long time the people will not have to hide and they will have to take responsibility too
  2. +4
    25 March 2023 04: 31
    For the Chinese, China is above all: the Chinese idea, the Chinese dream, the rebirth of the great Chinese nation.

    The Chinese are not ashamed of their nationality, their culture ... and we also need to take this into service ... until we learn to respect ourselves and make our especially stubborn neighbors respect us, there will be no order in our country.
    Of course, the article is weak ... about China's influence on the border regions of Russia, it is necessary to disclose the topic in more detail ... with figures, facts, history, prospects, etc.
    1. +8
      25 March 2023 07: 17
      The Chinese are not ashamed of their nationality, their culture ... and we must also take this into service.
      In fact, even 20 years ago, loudly, contemptuously with a pencil thrown on the table, it was stated that Russia is not for Russians. Nothing has changed since then. For the state-forming people, a criminal article was adopted.
    2. Des
      -1
      25 March 2023 11: 10
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      No, okay, the author has no idea about cultural influence, but should she at least know something about paying taxes?
      She is not the author. He. And I try to skip his articles)) - superficial.
  3. +1
    25 March 2023 04: 44
    There's something about it. Recently, a Chinese neighbor on the train explained to me which side to wear the anti-covid mask inward. Before that, none of the dear Russians could clearly answer ...... Now I know! Thanks comrade Xi.
    1. +2
      25 March 2023 06: 21
      Quote: ivan2022
      There's something about it. Recently, a Chinese neighbor on the train explained to me which side to wear the anti-covid mask inward. Before that, none of the dear Russians could clearly answer ...... Now I know! Thanks comrade Xi.


      Let us know how to properly wear a mask. I still don't know!
    2. +4
      25 March 2023 13: 29
      Quote: ivan2022
      which side inward is it correct to wear an anti-covid mask
      You don't have to wear it at all.
  4. -8
    25 March 2023 05: 22
    All this is nonsense. The development of Russia is such that the population density in Chukotka is 0,07 people per square meter. km, and in the center 5114 people per sq. km. With such a development, it does not matter who will cultivate our land - the Chinese, Africans and others. Conditions have not been created for the resettlement of our people. Yes, and he himself is not particularly striving. You can find a warm place without this. Fortunately, there are conditions for this.
    1. +10
      25 March 2023 05: 47
      You would open at least Wikipedia and look at the dynamics of the settlement of Siberia and the Far East in the 20th century.
      The people went and successfully worked and mastered and how they earned.

      I found the times of the USSR and I know what kind of bobos people had. And the idiotic thought did not occur to anyone that it "doesn't matter" who will work and earn money there ....

      Eklmn .. How far they have lived, I used to be outraged by moral ugliness .. and now it’s just ....... our contemporaries.

      These are probably just successive stages in the process of the degeneration of the nation ... They don’t care at all what is being done in their own country.
    2. +7
      25 March 2023 06: 16
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      Yes, and he does not particularly strive.

      Ha, where do you want to go? To the far north? So there conditions are on the verge of human capabilities. You need to attract there with "big buns", and not hope for "some kind of consciousness" ...
      1. +3
        25 March 2023 06: 48
        People try to go there only on shifts. They keep earning money and settle down somewhere with a normal climate. Like the Krasnodar Territory.
        1. -2
          25 March 2023 13: 34
          Quote from: dmi.pris1
          Like the Krasnodar Territory.
          You obviously have not been to the North ...
          Only completely gone fools go to the Krasnodar Territory.
          Everyone has long known from sad experience that this is the path to a quick death.
          A couple of years and kirdyk from the heart.
          The body at a middle age is not able to adapt to the heat.
          They earn money and go to Tyumen.
          She swelled 10 times in 1,5 years.
          Or somewhere else nearby.
          1. 0
            25 March 2023 14: 19
            Yes? people are drawn to Krasnodar. Here there really is a hell of a hell.
            1. 0
              25 March 2023 14: 41
              Quote from: dmi.pris1
              Yes, and I have been to Siberia, and not only. In the days of the USSR, I traveled, shook
              It is not that
              You didn't live in the North
              I'm talking about those who receive a pension from KhMAO or the like
              with normal experience
          2. +3
            25 March 2023 19: 57
            Quote: aars
            Quote from: dmi.pris1
            Like the Krasnodar Territory.
            You obviously have not been to the North ...
            Only completely gone fools go to the Krasnodar Territory.
            Everyone has long known from sad experience that this is the path to a quick death.
            A couple of years and kirdyk from the heart.
            The body at a middle age is not able to adapt to the heat.
            They earn money and go to Tyumen.
            She swelled 10 times in 1,5 years.
            Or somewhere else nearby.

            Completely agree with you! My years have already all died, having worked in the north for quite a long time, and returning back to the Kuban. I myself come from the Kuban. He lived for many years in Siberia, of these many years, 22 years in the north. I did not return to the Kuban, it is fraught ... I moved to the Novosiyirsk region, I feel comfortable here too.
          3. 0
            28 March 2023 11: 57
            we have a lot of people in Sochi who came from Surgut and live for more than 10 years and are normal
    3. +4
      25 March 2023 13: 12
      And the Chinese to us, in the Far East, are now not particularly eager to move, as in the 90s, for example. Now in China, most of the population lives in cities, and now they live well, why should they strive to move to Ussuriysk, Vladivostok, Nakhodka or Khabarovsk? Yes, in these cities there are markets for Chinese consumer goods (in principle, of normal quality), where the Chinese are present, there are restaurants, hotels, but all this works according to Russian laws. As for the whale. there are tourists who live and eat in Chinese hotels and cafes, but here one must take into account the mentality of the Chinese. Wherever they are, everywhere they will prefer Chinese cuisine, I have come across this myself.
  5. -2
    25 March 2023 05: 58
    I think there is a way out. Those people who go to prison for bribes will get out for bribes. It's another matter to expunge a criminal record so that he goes to explore uninhabited areas. If we don't do this, others will.
    1. +6
      25 March 2023 06: 35
      Remove a criminal record so that he goes to the taiga to settle down? Yeah, and after how many minutes such a clean citizen will be in Moscow? Who will control him, that he lives without getting out in the taiga?
  6. +7
    25 March 2023 06: 41
    We can skillfully use China's interests, China's potential and learn from China to use this potential.

    Our leadership skillfully can only ask for the interests of our country, and in almost all areas.
  7. +8
    25 March 2023 07: 54
    We still have neither a national ideology, nor a national task, nor our own picture of the future.
    Yes, there is. Everything is called for sale ...
  8. +3
    25 March 2023 10: 31
    I want to say that while Russia was growing in lands and while it was expanding, it had enough of its own people for all its lands. First, they built fortresses from the Urals to the Far East, and then cities, factories and dams, and then the Soviet people, after a hard day mastering Siberia and the Far East, sang a song about their country, where there are many forests, fields and rivers in it ...
    Moreover, he was the owner there, able to build and process everything himself, although the Chinese and Koreans who wanted to get there and climb in could be obtained as an invasion of locusts in the steppes of the Volga region, just let them freely multiply and be fruitful ...
    But traitors and traitors came to power, and people no longer sing a song about a wide country, where there are many forests, fields and rivers in it. And how will you sing this song when the state borders of the Russian lands in the west and in the south of the country are thrown back 400 years ago, with 20 Russian and Russian-speaking Russian loyal people abandoned there. And just like that, this invasion of the Chinese in the Far East is already here. The Chinese are building there not what Russia would have planned, well, like the USSR under the State Planning Commission for five-year plans, but what is beneficial for the Chinese for buying and selling.
    As for Chinese tourists before the pandemic, for example in St. Petersburg, I perceived all the information at the Moscow railway station on the huge boards in Chinese as concern for the safety of all passengers, because if such a huge constant crowd of Chinese will not have information about departure and arrival trains, then chaos can happen in such a huge station. Surprised only that I observed it in St. Petersburg, which is very far from the border with China. Next ... read the beginning of my comment about the danger of a locust invasion ..
    1. AAK
      +6
      25 March 2023 13: 14
      Continuing the theme of the Chinese in St. Petersburg, I was there with my wife in 2019, a very large number of Chinese immediately caught my eye, especially the absolutely boorish behavior of these "tourists" in our museums, they climb everywhere, yell, interfere with the guides other bands... so this is how they behave here, but what is in their heads and what they generally believe about us - it's even unpleasant to think...
    2. +1
      25 March 2023 14: 15
      Quote: north 2
      But traitors to the Motherland and traitors came to power
      Expand the picture here. Where did they come from? Power belonged to the people? Or it was built on the inter-clan intrigues of communist politicians, and the people could not have any influence on the government and had to be content with the production of stormy and prolonged applause by little-known, but without alternative, "their" deputies at congresses in support of the decisions of the highest power of the oligarchy-politburo, or the production of less stormy and long-lasting ones - to express the people's love for the local authorities of the first bais-secretaries?
  9. 0
    25 March 2023 19: 22
    forget huaqiao

    No, don't forget... wassat
    Near the city of Beijing Red Guards walk and roam,
    And old pictures Red Guards are looking for-prowl.
    ..
    And after all, the main thing, I know very well, How they are pronounced,
    But something very indecent comes to my tongue:
    Hong-wei-bin
    (V. Vysotsky)
  10. +2
    25 March 2023 20: 59
    At one time, at the end of the last century, he repeatedly dangled across the Urals for a long ruble, was young, healthy and stupid enough to plow in Eastern and Western Siberia in dog conditions. What surprised me the most was the attitude of the local population towards guests from central Russia. Both Russian-speaking and indigenous. Those who have been in Siberia for more than one generation asked us this way: what do you have there in Russia, again, thank God? They do not perceive their Siberia as part of a country or state. For them there is Russia and there is Siberia. The outlook is grim, given current events.
  11. +2
    25 March 2023 23: 10
    For the Chinese, China is above all: the Chinese idea, the Chinese dream, the rebirth of the great Chinese nation. And what can we do to counter this? So far, alas, nothing! We still have neither a national ideology, nor a national task, nor our own picture of the future. The only thing that can be noted is that China is now strengthening its position as a global power. And here the support of Russia is important for him. Here we have a vision of the world approximately the same as China. That's all.

    I really want to yell at the author for everything that does not fit into the deputy chairman of the Soviets without speaking out.
    We are one sixth of the land...
    We also have a terrible weapon for everyone ...
    We live according to the covenants, not according to new physical principles...
    We will shell out ourselves, but we will not disturb the wallets of other countries ..
  12. +4
    26 March 2023 02: 03
    Huaqiao is not exactly what the author writes about. These are Chinese who permanently reside abroad and are citizens of their countries of residence. In most cases, they were born in these countries. Many of the Huaqiao have never been to China.
  13. -1
    26 March 2023 09: 19
    Alas. Judging by the results of the SI's visit and the attitude of our elite, the situation is unlikely to change.
    Raw material neo-colony and technological metropolis.
  14. +1
    26 March 2023 17: 41
    the tax and legal framework does not suit them.

    It does not suit the locals and cannot arrange
  15. 0
    26 March 2023 21: 06
    About China and "tourists". The town was remembered

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nLKPCzgtgE
  16. 0
    31 March 2023 22: 50
    Quote from Romanovski
    Not everything is lost for Russia .... We must learn (not zapadlo ... by the way) from the same China HARD WORK, DISCIPLINE and WISE TAX POLICY, which will stimulate the development of the countryside and the processing industry in the Russian Federation ... But, with filthy and ANTI-NATIONAL (!!!) ideology of wild, usurious, corrupt and NOMENCLATURAL capitalism - THIS IN RUSSIA CANNOT BE ACHIEVED A PRIORI, in principle and by definition ... Until they learn ALSO CRUELLY in Russia (yes, up to the death penalty ...) PUNISH for corruption, embezzlement and the creation of organized crime groups - werewolves in ties, shoulder straps and their wards in tattoos (leaders of organized crime groups ...) - any good Russian intentions and reforms WILL SLIP in place ... Raw materials should be prohibited from being exported to China (and not only ...), and in return it is necessary to encourage the export of FINISHED PRODUCTS (preferably science-intensive). In a couple of years, Russia is unlikely to achieve this, but the road will be mastered by the one walking who takes the risk and takes the FIRST step in the RIGHT DIRECTION ... It is necessary to repeat the experience of China in the early 80s of the twentieth century, namely, to create attractive CONDITIONS ( taxes, land rent, electricity, gas, legislation is stable and without bureaucratic-nomenclature show off for 25 years ...) for China's advanced enterprises in the Far East, BUT - the workforce is exclusively CITIZENS OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION (it is necessary - let our workers be trained, and they don’t want to teach our workers the secrets of advanced production in order to start their own - immediately cancel all licenses and permits ...). And engineers and managers - you can also import from China for a start ...


    There will be such a program in the elections - maybe they will support it.
    But who will let you before the elections?