The Ukrainian side, which invented the story of the Su-35 fighter allegedly shot down over Donetsk, is now claiming “the defeat of Caliber-NK missiles in Dzhankoy”

The Ukrainian Main Intelligence Directorate presents its version of the use of shock drones across the Crimea. Recall that earlier the authorities of the Dzhankoy district reported that Ukrainian drones were intercepted, the fragments of which damaged the house, and that a local resident was injured. One of the drones fell near the railroad tracks.

The Main Intelligence Directorate of Ukraine claims that in Dzhankoy, Russian Caliber NK cruise missiles were allegedly destroyed by drone strikes during their transportation by rail.

The Ukrainian GUR claims that “Russian Kalibr-NK missiles were destroyed by a mysterious explosion during their transportation by rail.” This is followed by tirades familiar to the Ukrainian regime about “preparation for the de-occupation of Crimea” and other uplifting speeches for those who continue to believe in it.

Why and where the Caliber-NK cruise missiles were transported through Dzhankoy by rail, given that these missiles are intended to arm warships, Ukraine's GUR does not report.

How much to believe the Ukrainian side in its statements is a rhetorical question. Yesterday, for example, the Ukrainian side repeatedly stated that a Russian Su-35 fighter jet was allegedly shot down over Donetsk, "from which the pilot ejected." A few hours later, it turned out that it was not the Su-35 that was shot down, but a drone, not Russian, but Ukrainian, and that from drone left (its automation worked). Only in Ukrainian publics, of course, do not pay attention to the facts, continuing to "celebrate the accuracy of Ukrainian air defense." It is likely that things are about the same with the allegedly hit Caliber-NK missiles in the Crimean Dzhankoy.

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[War Lord]

Why and where the Caliber-NK cruise missiles were transported through Dzhankoy by rail, given that these missiles are intended to arm warships, Ukraine's GUR does not report.

The fact that Ukrainian UAVs freely fly to Dzhankoy, to Engels, speaks of the holes in the focal air defense of the Russian Federation.
We need continuous air defense as in the USSR.

[Fitter65]

Quote from War_Lord

We need continuous air defense as in the USSR.

Under which Rust sat on Red Square, or did Powers fly to Sverdlovsk?

[War Lord]

Rust sat down because he was being led from the border of the USSR to Moscow, and Judas, labeled Gorbachev, personally ordered not to shoot him down.
And the state border of the USSR was locked up and covered along its entire length by the Border Troops, and not by some kind of service of three people. Cases like the Ukrainian DRG in Bryansk in the USSR were unthinkable.

[thrush68]

They led, yes, but they didn’t shoot him down because of the unwillingness (fear) to make a decision by the commanders on the ground. I then served in air defense.

[ALCA056000]

"due to the unwillingness (fear) to make a decision by the commanders on the ground" - I fully support it! In the GSVG, at the position of combat duty near Zerbst (whoever is in the subject will understand), the commander of the air defense of the army, in a situation not even so "cool", rode away from the SURN (again, whoever is in the subject will understand) just not to take responsibility .. .. Alas - the reality is as follows.

[Letun]

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Rust sat down, because he was being led from the border of the USSR to Moscow, and Judas, labeled Gorbachev, personally ordered not to shoot him down

There, the story after the downing of the Boeing was complicated. The atmosphere was tense. If not for this tragedy, I think Rust would have been shot down.
And about the strange logic "Kaliber NK is a sea-based missile, why take it to the railway" I don’t understand something. But do these sea-based missiles fly to ships under their own power or what? Some strange argument...

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: Letun

Some strange argument...

where the Caliber-NK cruise missiles were transported through Dzhankoy by rail,

It's just that the probably anonymous author of the article did not see the Crimean railway map and thinks that the railway to Sevastopol was laid in the same way as the highway along the coast and the train does not need to call in Dzhankoy. Well, or he thinks that since the calibers are "marine", then they will only be delivered to Savastopol by sea!

[Volodin]

Quote from War_Lord

We need continuous air defense as in the USSR.

Where does this indestructible confidence in "continuous air defense" in the USSR come from? Well, there was no such thing either in the USSR, or in the USA, or anyone else. No one has it even in modern times - with the activity of drones

[Ezekiel 25-17]

Continuous air defense does not happen: max is 80%.

[Sergey Valov]

Having written “Solid Air Defense”, most people do not even know what air defense is in principle. Scatter air garrisons along the border with a step of 500 - 1000 km, that's solid air defense! But very inefficient. It will also be necessary to scatter the RTV garrisons in increments of 50-100 km. But this is not enough - it is necessary to create a stable (understand wired) connection between all this magnificence. We should not forget about roads, warehouses, repair bases, hospitals, housing for family members, schools for children, regular delivery of fresh food, transport to take people to the mainland (we are talking about the perimeter of the country). And I'm only talking about the most pressing, but there are still a lot of other factors. And, by the way, yes, I deliberately did not mention the ZRV at all, there are problems in general.

[Maz]

Let them tell this to the oil depot and the train with fuel tanks, which courageously burned out in three days in the Dnipropetrovsk region, hugging each other during reloading.

[4ekist]

War_Lord ..... We need continuous air defense as in the USSR.

We already have continuous air defense, the lower border of a continuous radar field is different in different parts of the border. Plus, radar facilities are additionally working according to a special schedule. And a plywood drone is not so easy to detect if it flies at a low altitude.

...... in Ukrainian publics, of course, they do not pay attention to the facts, continuing to "celebrate the accuracy of Ukrainian air defense"

It is necessary to provide them with continuous "holidays", let them jump

[Third district]

Quote: 4ekist

We already have continuous air defense, the lower border of a continuous radar field is different in different parts of the border. Plus, radar facilities are additionally working according to a special schedule. And a plywood drone is not so easy to detect if it flies at a low altitude.

The drones that flew to Ryazan and Engels were by no means made of plywood. And as it was stated, these are the Soviet "Swifts" Tu-143 a huge fool.

[former soldier]

continuous air defense as in the USSR.

Do not fantasize.

[Osiris]

Of course it is needed, no one argues, but the territory of the Russian Federation is very large, and modern air defense systems are very expensive, and now the air defense system is a big expense (which we don’t know yet), so we can only dream about it ... To be fair, it should be noted that " the holeiness" of our air defense is explained by flaws in the organization
this very air defense and hope for our great "Maybe" - maybe it won't fly. Strengthening the work with personnel in the field is now the main thing ...

[savage3000]

solid air defense - this is your invention. this does not apply to reality.

[Evil_critic]

It's good to be rich and healthy!

[Kvass]

The explosion is not sickly, unfortunately, I hope nothing serious

[dmi.pris1]

By the way, cargoes for the Black Sea Fleet go by rail through Dzhankoy, otherwise there is no way. Or only by sea or transport aviation.

[Herman 4223]

". Cargoes for the Black Sea Fleet by rail go through Dzhankoy, otherwise there is no way."
And what is the Crimean bridge for?

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Herman 4223

". Cargoes for the Black Sea Fleet by rail go through Dzhankoy, otherwise there is no way."
And what is the Crimean bridge for?

Look at the scheme of movement of trains in the Crimea. All trains go through Krymsky. bridge and across Dzhankoy. , and then to Simferopol and Sevastopol .

[4ekist]

German 4223 ..... And what is the Crimean bridge for?

Why carry cruise missiles for the forces of the fleet, if you can load directly onto ships in the port of Novorossiysk.

[art266]

In order not to drive ships from Sevastopol to Novorossiysk.

[Volodin]

Quote from: dmi.pris1

By the way, cargoes for the Black Sea Fleet go by rail through Dzhankoy, otherwise there is no way.

Otherwise, very much like. For example, in exactly the same way as cargo for the Black Sea Fleet went at one time without using the railway

[dmi.pris1]

We carefully read the commentary. Is it already comme il faut to pull out phrases?

[Volodin]

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We carefully read the commentary. Is it already comme il faut to pull out phrases?

Yes, just an interesting comment. "There is no other way", but at the same time, it turns out, "it is possible by sea or transport aviation." And it’s also possible through the Crimean bridge ... There are a lot of options, including options by rail. Why write "no way".

[dmi.pris1]

Show me "HOW" to smuggle past Dzhankoy by rail?

[Volodin]

Quote from: dmi.pris1

show me "HOW" to smuggle past Dzhankoy by rail?

Hmm ... But where is "past" Dzhankoy? Well, let's say they brought the cargo to Kerch (if you really need it by rail) - it is unloaded and transported even by army trucks, even by landing ships. If missiles are carried exclusively by trains to Sevastopol, then the organizer of "non-alternative" transportation - 5 points, of course ...

[corpse]

Show me "HOW" to smuggle past Dzhankoy by rail?

Why argue with someone who has no idea what they're talking about?
Just show him the map.

[voyaka uh]

There is no evidence that they hit the rockets, but the railway. station has been disabled.

[rusich]

And for the potheads, just not to work, to beg and celebrate something. March 21 is International Day of the Person with Down Syndrome
The official symbol for Down Syndrome is a yellow and blue ribbon. The color orange is also traditionally associated with the symbolism of the disease.

[Gpn27]

Where could Caliber be transported through Dzhankoy? The missiles are taken to Sevastopol to the ships, they could not get into Dzhankoy. The Ukrainians, as usual, ended up in a store and a residential building.

[ishinmaikl]

And over there, through a comment from yours, they write that, except through Dzhankoy, there’s no way

[donavi49]

Open the railroad map. If you are transporting by railway, then what is from Kerch (bridge), what is a single nodal Dzhanka from the land. So the road was built, you can’t go directly to Symf or Sevas from Kerch, only through Dzhankoy.

[Metallurg_2]

In general, as in a joke about Armenian radio: true, but not in a casino, but in cards, not a thousand, but ten thousand, not rubles, but dollars, and did not win, but lost.

[Alister kroulegg]

We ourselves, like the Ukrainians, shoot down over residential areas. Sad

[engineer74]

The air defense saturation threshold is carefully figured out and loopholes are being tried to find, it seems ...

[Al manah]

It's good that it's not true! We believe the party and the government!

[corpse]

We believe the party and the government!

Certainly! No other way! Otherwise - an article about discrediting ....

[wladimirjankov]

our command does not learn anything. But how many lessons the Nazis have already taught us. In the same Crimea with a bridge, at airfields, in the port and Sevastopol itself, in the port of Berdyansk, in Engels, etc. can be listed for a long time. Well, you can’t organize air defense along the entire border, so do it at least for important objects and cities. The railway station in Dzhankoy also applies to them. The main railway transportation in the Crimea goes through it. Amazing indifference, inability to calculate the actions of the enemy and take measures to neutralize them. In Syria, it somehow worked out well with the organization of air defense of our military base. Swarms of self-made and stealthy UAVs were shot down. Why we cannot do this in Russia is not clear. Why do we first need to be sure to kick painfully, before we start to somehow move, scratch and think.

[StonedAstronaut]

You are confusing the protection of the perimeter of the base in how many tens of kilometers and how many thousands of KM of state borders, through which you can go straight deep into the territory and let anything. Only electronic warfare tools will help, and then only for non-inertial navigation systems. In this case, there is only one intelligible option, to shift the borders towards Kyiv, so that it would be scary to let something in from there.

[StonedAstronaut]

Automation with an emergency landing system for a drone? Absolute nonsense, or wild handicraft, another civilian Mugin was redone.