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70 Millions of Foreign Migrants for Russia

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After the President’s approval of the Concept of State Migration Policy, designed for the period up to 2025, opinions began to be expressed on how to make illiterate foreign citizens who do not even know the basics of the Russian language stop to go to Russia, and only highly qualified specialists began to arrive having serious work experience and a decent level of education. It is noteworthy that for the time being all the talk on this matter remains nothing more than talk, deprived of a concrete thoughtful basis.

70 Millions of Foreign Migrants for Russia


In particular, not so long ago, the State Duma deputy representing United Russia, Gadzhimet Safaraliev, spoke out about the need to attract high-class specialists from other states to Russia. Safaraliyev heads the Committee on Nationality Affairs and is working on legislative support for national state policy. The legislator believes that the development of Russia without migration is impossible, and gives weighty numbers of foreign migrants who can allow the country's economy to develop dynamically. According to him, the country needs about 50-70 million foreign migrants to whom it is necessary to make quite serious demands. One of these demands is that the deputy Safaraliev sees the knowledge of the Russian language and culture of the region to which migrants go in search of work. In addition, the head of the Committee declares the need to work with countries, let's say, donors, to create some adaptation centers on Russian territory.

Of course, Russia would not have refused the numerous experienced specialists arriving on our territory from other states. I would not refuse that each of these qualified employees of various enterprises could speak Russian, understand local traditions, know the cultural characteristics of the local population. However, the figures named by Gadzhimet Safaraliev look too frightening. If we consider that the very Concept of State Migration Policy (KGMP) states that the population of Russia could reach 2025-142,8 million by 145,6 in the year, the figure in 70 of millions of foreign migrants raises the question of so-called national identity in the country.

If today we can’t create a clear legislative base for controlling the activities of 3-5 of millions of foreign migrants (according to data from the KGMP) who work almost permanently in Russia, then what about the 70 million-strong army of foreigners who are ready to work for the benefit of the development of Russia and make money for yourself. How much will it be necessary to build those very adaptation centers for labor migrants in the territory of the Russian Federation in order to teach the language and instill respect for culture among tens of millions of foreigners. For this, it is necessary to detach not just huge funds from the state budget, but astronomical funds.

At the same time, it is difficult to imagine that labor migrants, moving into Russia, would move exclusively towards uninhabited areas of Siberia and the Far East in order to bring these regions to the forefront of economic positions in the country. Even if one assumes that a third of the millions of “qualified” foreign migrants declared by Safaraliev will rush to the Far Eastern and Siberian regions, this could provoke a real socio-economic crisis. The fact is that such a huge number of people will have to provide not only jobs, but also housing, medical care, other social protection clusters. After all, the deputy is not going to settle millions of foreign citizens who arrived to work in Russia, in abandoned barracks or in the taiga ... Presumably, they are not going to feed them either.

Perhaps, in this case, as a solution to the problem, it seems that the migrants themselves should build housing for themselves, medical and educational institutions, feed themselves, heal and teach, buy from themselves, sell themselves. Taxes? .. Sorry, but with migrant taxes we have so far and with fewer foreign “workaholics” everything is not transparent.

When the country still has not solved the problems with kindergartens, hospitals and other important objects for, let's say, the indigenous population, to launch an “unconditionally qualified” multi-million horde to Russia - a step more than doubtful.
Let us not forget that the mass entry of migrants into the Russian Federation must be viewed not only in an economic sense. Even if we assume that millions of people, for example, Central Asia, will rush to the same Far East and turn this region into a garden city with oriental bazaars and festive skullcaps, then ethnic imbalance may eventually begin to manifest itself. Considering that nowadays no more than 6,5 of millions of Russian citizens live in the Far Eastern region, the situation with the arrival to these territories of a couple of tens of millions of foreigners with other ideas about life in general raises certain concerns. After all, let us not build illusions that Germans, French or British polls with two higher educations and verbatim knowledge of all the works of Tolstoy and Mayakovsky will flood into the Primorsky, Khabarovsk and Kamchatka regions, and begin to forge the well-being of the Eastern Federal District itself, not working their German, French and British hands. But the Germans, the French and the British at home no longer know what to do with the millions of labor migrants, a certain percentage of whom are mediocre with legal labor.

It turns out that lawmakers want our country to repeat the European international impasse. Only in the same Germany, the resettlement of the indigenous population is fairly evenly throughout the country, and we only have to dream of such uniformity. In this regard, an invitation to Siberia and the Far East of tens of millions of foreign migrants is a “blue-plate saucer” for those who then take advantage of a territorial gift, not without pleasure.

Of course, the author can be blamed for the fact that he is a dog in the hay. They say that the whole region is “empty”, and he criticizes the initiative for the introduction of foreign migrants ... However, if lawmakers want to reassure themselves that at least someone should live in the Far East, if only statistics on demography were acceptable, then they would case you should start with yourself. Why? It is possible, as a research work, of deputies of both chambers of our Parliament to be sent for permanent residence to the region, the problems of which they are so seriously concerned about. Only send without a suite, without “blue buckets”, to bare ground, or, for example, to buildings that, according to reports for the federal center, constitute capital housing that does not need repair, but is actually assembled from boards, who finally rotted back when many deputies were at a tender age. And when this experiment begins to bear the first fruits: there will be schools, hospitals, kindergartens, sports complexes, normal housing, then in general it will be possible to say “why do we need millions of foreign migrants; like the hands from that place grow up! ”
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  1. boris.radevitch
    boris.radevitch 22 November 2012 08: 32
    +17
    It is necessary to tighten immigration and the only way we will achieve victory! am
    1. Blackscorp
      Blackscorp 22 November 2012 08: 51
      +50
      It is necessary to provide benefits to Russians when moving from other countries (quick citizenship, housing, etc.), because people who want to work come to us ..... because all sorts of drunkards, parasites and drug addicts will never go anywhere ... It is necessary to provide state. housing (or something like that) for our young families, since it is precisely the lack of housing and the bonded mortgage that holds back the birth rate (and we keep state money in a capsule) .... Then the problem of working hands will eventually be solved within the country, and not with the involvement of migrants ..... We do not give citizenship to 25 Kosovo Serbs (by the way Orthodox), but we soften the arrival of Tajiks to us .....
      1. sv-sakh
        sv-sakh 22 November 2012 10: 01
        +28
        Already wrote this comment in one of the topics, but here it is as well as possible in the subject:
        Sakhalin is one of the most expensive regions .. It is much more expensive than Moscow ... (in third place in terms of cost of living in the Russian Federation).
        And ZP Design Engineer of the 1st category 25 thousand Russian wooden ... And this is one of the largest companies in Russia and the world ... Rosneft ... What can we say about state employees and private owners ...
        And this, taking into account the Northern and regional allowances, with a general coefficient of 2.1 ... Which we, the north, were actually deprived of, by raising prices but lowering salaries, by which this coefficient is multiplied ... Is it scary?
        Do you think you live poorly in your regions? Come visit, we will teach you how to live on a living wage (by the way we have 11500), while without light, without heat and without roads ...
        Over the past 2 months, the cost of a liter of gasoline increased by 4 rubles! The islanders gather and rally, which by the way do not show on any TV channel.
        What do we see in ourselves? The outflow of the population from the region is measured in tens of thousands annually, and tens of thousands are replaced by "guests from sunny and not very friendly republics" ... And this is a former border zone, so ineptly deprived of its status by our government ..
        And 10 years ago, these same guests on Sakhalin Island were not at all ...
        What will happen in the border zone after another 10 years is incomprehensible and scary ...
        Thanks Putin for this
        Sakhalin vs. Putin.
        And with all this, under the island of oil and gas as in the emirates ... But now the island does not see either gas or oil or oil products.
        Primorye is heated by our gas, the island is not gasified.
        Last year, Sakhalin was all at gas stations, as there was no fuel anywhere, even at frantic prices it was impossible to buy ...
        Who wants to live in such conditions? Maybe Putin decided to survive us? because the islanders against the transfer of the islands of Japan and one referendum on this issue will not be missed?
        1. Wertynskiy
          Wertynskiy 22 November 2012 11: 08
          +14
          Quote: sv-sakh
          And 10 years ago, these same guests on Sakhalin Island were not at all ...
          What will happen in the border zone after another 10 years is incomprehensible and scary ...

          Everything that you wrote about Sakhalin can be said exactly about my Kamchatka. everything is the same with us. And you must first stop the outflow of the indigenous RUSSIAN population from these regions. I left there myself, and I’ll say why: because we simply have no Internet in Kamchatka! The fastest internet is through mobile networks! Movie download - three days and lots of money! But the Internet in our time is an elementary thing!
          The trend of departure from the Far East continues. And as always, the authorities not only do not prevent this, but also contribute to endless discussions about the abolition of the northern coefficient, gas prices and air tickets. For reference: in August, an economy class ticket for the flight Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky - Moscow - Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky will cost YOU 60 rubles! Well, if you have a wife and God forbid the children, then sit better at home ...
          1. Shuhrat turani
            Shuhrat turani 22 November 2012 11: 28
            -11
            Quote: Wertynskiy
            Everything that you wrote about Sakhalin can be said exactly about my Kamchatka. everything is the same with us. And you must first stop the outflow of the indigenous RUSSIAN population from these regions. I left there myself, and I’ll say why: because we simply have no Internet in Kamchatka! The fastest internet is through mobile networks! Movie download - three days and lots of money! But the Internet in our time is an elementary thing!


            and here we are about fertility, housing, mortgages .... Here it is, the solution! Make cheap Internet in D, East and the all-outflow of the population will be spoiled !!!! Everything turns out to be simple!
            1. Wertynskiy
              Wertynskiy 22 November 2012 13: 51
              +4
              Quote: Shuhrat Turani
              Make cheap Internet in D, East and the all-outflow of the population will be spoiled !!!! Everything turns out to be simple!

              This is just an example. which largely characterizes the living conditions in Kamchatka. I could stay there and work, but without the Internet it is impossible. I think your irony is inappropriate.
              1. sv-sakh
                sv-sakh 23 November 2012 09: 36
                +3
                Above was about Sakhalin ...
                But in the Sakhalin region there is still the Kuril poison ... on which the cost per liter of fuel is not the limit of 90 and 100 rubles ...
                But people live there! And these people are against the fact that THEIR islands were transferred to Japan.
                These are the patriots of OWN (not Putin) land!
                On many schemes and maps of Russia, our islands are not even displayed, although there are more than a million of us!
                When they talk about Russia, for some reason Vladivostok or Nakhodka is considered the extreme point.
                But there are WE ... islands that fought with Japan half of their history .. And there is also Kamchatka, there is Chukotka. The three harshest regions on the edge of the earth.
                The bridge to the uninhabited Russian island is a spit in us ... Since the time of Stalin, there has been a project of a bridge or tunnel to us from the mainland, but apparently an uninhabited piece is more important ...
                Sakhalin is only 8 km from the mainland, in the narrowest part of the strait ... in good weather the opposite shore is visible .. The depth of the strait is up to 11 m ... In winter, some wolves managed to cross the island on ice (we don’t have wolves ... because the bears are big and walk around the city .. almost no joke laughing ).
                1. Blackscorp
                  Blackscorp 23 November 2012 18: 06
                  +2
                  Quote: sv-sakh
                  The bridge to the uninhabited Russian island is a spit in us ... Since the time of Stalin, there has been a project of a bridge or tunnel to us from the mainland, but apparently an uninhabited piece is more important ...


                  I heard somewhere that they are going to implement this project (a bridge to Sakhalin) ... Can't you hear it? Or again, as always, blah blah blah?
            2. imguskov
              imguskov 22 November 2012 20: 26
              +2
              The calls of the president and the government for the return of the indigenous population to Russia are most likely a PR! Benefits allocated for relocation let them keep it for themselves, they are not needed! First of all, people need a stable political environment, a Soviet attitude to work and workers, laws developed by the Communist Party of the Russian Federation on entrepreneurial activity, law enforcement, business documentation and labor benefits in areas of non-black soil and Far East. And for this, first of all, by law, to limit all people living in Russia from bureaucratic arbitrariness by imposing sanctions that do not leave the choice for officials, except to conscientiously fulfill their duties, but we have gone too far - United Russia will not punish itself, then United Russia needs replace with a more progressive party such as the Communist Party.
              1. hohryakov066
                hohryakov066 23 November 2012 08: 37
                -1
                Yeah! And the Communist Party will punish itself?
            3. pav-pon1972
              pav-pon1972 23 November 2012 00: 01
              +1
              In Primorye, the outflow of the population is annually 10-12 t.s. It’s not the Internet that matters, the attitude of the authorities towards the common people, mostly young people are leaving ...
            4. vyatom
              vyatom 23 November 2012 10: 58
              +1
              The irony is absolutely inappropriate. Our state in the face of edrosov and Putin is simply left to the mercy of our citizens, especially in the Far East and the Far North. If even in Kazakhstan they give their mortgage without interest on moving their money, we have a shish. Only dimasik with Vovik are smiling from the screen.
        2. urzul
          urzul 22 November 2012 11: 12
          +2
          After all, the people didn’t tumble out of Sakhalin since the 2000 of the year; they threw it out with terrible force right after the collapse of the USSR, when they simply forgot about this land.
          So does broadcasting all services to Putin seem very biased, or can you say that in 99 you had an earthly paradise there and no one left?
        3. Mairos
          Mairos 22 November 2012 16: 22
          -4
          "Sakhalin vs. Putin." - I am not happy with him either, but who can really lead the government now and with which team, suggest. Who has comparable power, financial, and power potential to seize power?
          1. Alex_g23r
            Alex_g23r 22 November 2012 20: 27
            +2
            The future president will have the potential to seize power.
          2. imguskov
            imguskov 22 November 2012 20: 47
            +4
            Today it is fashionable to find fault with the communists! And you read Zyuganov's report: - "Ways of overcoming the crisis, as well as the election program on conducting private entrepreneurship" Today's unlimited business and the Communist Party's program on doing business are heaven and earth. And it's not even about the benefits offered by Zyuganov, it's about the elementary security of business participants, restoring the trust of the police, sorry to the police, and the police were protecting the people! Until Gorbachev destroyed it and the police always sided with the people. Today the people are angry with poverty and lack of rights, businessmen are no better off, they, like no one else, feel the bureaucratic fraud. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation is not the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, it is the remnants of true communists who have retained a sense of the Motherland, patriotism and are ready to take responsibility for the fate of the people of Russia. These are the people I believe, and if Zyuganov comes to power, I will definitely return to Russia, even as an engineer, even as a groom, because I will be calm about the future generation of my family.
            1. vyatom
              vyatom 23 November 2012 11: 01
              +2
              But the magazine of brewers actively scolds the Soviet regime, and the governor Tkachev is like him. It would be better to study the Krasnodar Territory.
        4. imguskov
          imguskov 22 November 2012 19: 58
          +1
          Migrants, or as you call us compatriots who have an education and a head on their shoulders, will not go to Russia for several reasons:
          - a country that is too corrupt, corruption infiltrates all levels of power, without exception, from the farm foreman to the president’s inner circle. Although the president has taken several steps to suppress corruption, this is only to create the appearance of a small part of the surface iceberg. We living in the CIS do not believe in the sincerity of the presidential steps to eradicate the bureaucratic demon.
          - we know how the population of Russia perceived the move of fellow citizens from neighboring countries to Russia in the early 90s, when people who worked for 30 years, saved up money, built houses and moved families, and these were Russian people who stayed on the street where mother gave birth only due to the fact that it seemed to someone that they were bai and they needed to be burned.
          - some families went to Taganrog, built houses, and come to work in the Asian republics for the summer, the same picture in the Altai Territory.
          - The recent elections to the State Duma and the president have shown that not everything is in order with the electoral system in Russia and far from elected people come to power.
          Russian people are not afraid of difficulties and people understand the problems experienced by Russia, as well as Russian families living abroad want their children to study the history of Russia and their native Russian language, therefore many want to return to their historical Motherland and could benefit Russia with knowledge in their luggage, experience, education, but to return to Russia to give the rest of their lives to fight bureaucracy protecting themselves, their property, savings and profits ?? As the famous character from the movie Diamond Arm said it’s better you are to us, engineering professions are needed everywhere, not only in Russia, there are no problems with work, the feeling of the homeland disappeared with the advent of Gorbachev, there are no prerequisites for returning to your historical homeland! Now the president of Russia and the government are trying to raise the spirit of the people and unite the people into a single family - you gentlemen are late for exactly 27 years, and to be even more precise it was not necessary to drop this spirit and not ruin the people's family. In Soviet times, any citizen of the USSR felt in any republic in his homeland, today this feeling is not limited by stability, primarily the political component, but then with all the ensuing consequences.
          All the best to I. Guskov.
          1. hohryakov066
            hohryakov066 23 November 2012 09: 20
            0
            Quote: imguskov
            You gentlemen are exactly 27 years late

            This is not "You gentlemen", but "We are gentlemen." With a show-off deal when the USSR brought down Kzakhstan stood aside! And then it turns out that only Russia took part in this process, and all the others stood and looked blankly from the outside? Learning from over the hill is easy! Take Zyuganov to your place. He's just lovely! And Nazarbayev is killing your miners. Ay-ay.
            1. imguskov
              imguskov 23 November 2012 21: 30
              +3
              Unfortunately, it is, in the collapse of the USSR, Russia was the leading player, or rather Yeltsin, because he signed the decree on leaving the USSR first. And since Russia possessed the most powerful economic potential in the USSR, the rest of the republics could only submit.
            2. Blackscorp
              Blackscorp 26 November 2012 10: 17
              0
              Quote: hohryakov066
              With a show, when the USSR fell, Kzakhstan stood aside

              I do not agree with you, for your information Nazarbayev, you can say, until the last he fought for the Union, and one of the last introduced his own currency ... I thought with Russia to go to the end ... only EBNya expelled him ....
        5. Samsebenaum
          Samsebenaum 22 November 2012 21: 05
          +8
          sv-sakh

          I read it and my heart ached ...
          Man, this is the cry of the soul and at the same time the voice of one crying in the desert.
          Here, on the forum, I got tired of proving to the supporters of GDP that life in Russia is only for the elite in selected places.
          Unfortunately, Sakhalin and Kamchatka are not on the list of favorites.
          I myself am from God (no, by power) the forgotten Smolensk region.
          There are almost no enterprises left. In their place - shopping malls.
          Mockery of the people. Nowhere to make money, but where to spend it - no problem.
          So people go from their native land to Moscow to earn money, like Tajiks, in order to survive.
          Goryushko in our land, we are dying out year after year.
          400 miles from Moscow and already full railway station
          I sympathize with you. You have no chance at all ...
        6. Ramses_IV
          Ramses_IV 23 November 2012 06: 41
          +1
          Greetings. As a resident of Primorye, I dare to assure you that at the moment we do not have any centralized gasification. Before the APEC summit, our CHPP-2 was temporarily (!) Connected to gas; after the summit, black smoke again came out of the pipes. Not a single residential area in Vladivostok, as far as I know, is also centrally gasified. The gas pipeline was built, most likely, for export purposes. And with the "guests" and geopolitics, we have the same thing as yours - it's black .... there are more and more puffs, there are less and less indigenous people.
        7. Strezhevchanin
          Strezhevchanin 23 November 2012 20: 40
          +1
          sv-sakh
          So you can long and hard to irrigate everyone with sewage, because you have this situation! I can also say, we also have a refinery in the Tomsk Region and, in theory, fuel and lubricants should cost a penny, no matter how straight from the well to the gas tank, it would seem ....... Putin is to blame ??? And the fact that the bridge over the IVC river has been under construction since 1979 and only after arrival the construction began personally. I can list endlessly, BUT !!!! Do not forget that he faces an armada of officials, and before all the Abramovichs who easily sacrifice your well-being for the sake of selfish interest while shitting our hearts and you and the country in general, this is simply not a question. Do not hysteria, I sincerely regret and understand your anxiety, but understand that you are not alone, with respect Strezhevchanin.
      2. Shuhrat turani
        Shuhrat turani 22 November 2012 11: 41
        -4
        Quote: BlackScorp
        It is necessary to provide benefits to Russians when moving from other countries (quick citizenship, housing, etc.

        Everyone who wanted to move has already moved! Resource is 80% exhausted.

        Quote: BlackScorp
        It is necessary to provide state. housing (or something like that) for our young families, since it is precisely the lack of housing and the bonded mortgage that holds back the birth rate (and we keep state money in a small box)


        Pure populism. You’ll just give out apartments, the budget will end quickly. And the infusion of petrodollars into the economy without an increase in industrial production will end in fierce inflation, which will ultimately lead to impoverishment of the population and the birth rate will decrease even more.

        Quote: BlackScorp
        We do not give citizenship to 25 Kosovo Serbs (by the way Orthodox), but we soften the arrival of Tajiks to us .....

        Analyze the history of the Serbs. They became brothers Orthodox Slavs only when they were FAVORABLE to them, and in other cases they occupied an intro-Russian policy. And Tajiks silently without timid work without requiring anything but a small salary.
        1. vadimN
          vadimN 22 November 2012 12: 29
          +14
          Quote: Shuhrat Turani
          And Tajiks silently without timid work without requiring anything but a small salary


          It is to these Tajiks that I should be tolerant and welcome them on my land ?????:

          "In mid-February 1990, national Islamists literally tore to pieces XNUMX Russian men and women in Dushanbe. The women were forced to undress and run in circles on the square of the railway station under the roar of machine gun fire and the guffaw of rapists ..."

          These chilling stories about which Russian television stubbornly keeps silent “to avoid inciting ethnic hatred”, you can now hear from the miraculously surviving Russian refugees who have been trying for more than 15 years to find shelter, citizenship, sympathy and support from the Russian authorities . Useless. These gentlemen even did not give a damn about the genocide of the Russian people, abandoned to their own devices by Gorbachev, Yeltsin

          “In February 1990, exactly on the day of the next anniversary of the Islamic revolution in Iran, there was a pogrom of the Russian quarters of Dushanbe. The murder of ORT correspondent Nikulin in broad daylight, the shooting of a school bus with the children of Russian officers from a grenade launcher. The brutal massacre of an Orthodox priest in Dushanbe, arson temple, atrocities in cemeteries ... etc. "
          Vladimir Klenov, Dushanbe. “Pamir: a memory of Russians”

          Anti-Russian pogroms swept across the city. “Tajikistan for Tajiks!” And “Russians, get out to your Russia!” Are the main slogans of the pogromists. Russians were robbed, raped and killed even in their own apartments. Not spared and children. Tajikistan did not know such savagery ...

          Vladimir Starikov. "The long road to Russia."


          "... And in March, as soon as the railway began to work, the first wave of departing Russians rushed to the freight station for containers, to the railway station and the airport for tickets. Out of seven hundred thousand inhabitants of the then Dushanbe, three hundred thousand were Russians. Soon there was a shortage of doctors and teachers in Russian classes. My daughter in the eighth grade for six months was absent from a physics teacher, which forced us to transfer her to another school. It was during these days that the famous slogan was born: “Russians, do not leave - we need slaves!” He decorated fences. city ​​until the day of our family's departure from Tajikistan.
          1. Mairos
            Mairos 22 November 2012 16: 39
            +1
            An acquaintance of mine left Turkmenistan with his wife. After his wife could not get a job for a year, as every bogey director (owner) openly put forward a condition that she would "serve" him after work.
          2. Shuhrat turani
            Shuhrat turani 22 November 2012 23: 35
            -4
            Quote: vadimN
            It is to these Tajiks that I should be tolerant and welcome them on my land ?????:


            No, of course, you must cut them, mercilessly frantically shed their blood without any pity. Tearing them to pieces like a pack of wolves torments a dead skinny moose whose meat is not enough for the whole pack. Could there be any other way out.
            1. vyatom
              vyatom 23 November 2012 11: 04
              0
              Personally, I do not need these stupid, insignificant creature-slaves (Tajiks and Uzbeks). This biological trash. Who pity them, that finished shnik.
              1. vyatom
                vyatom 23 November 2012 13: 44
                0
                I got excited, of course. But I would like to see, nevertheless, more educated representatives of the Tajik and Uzbek peoples in Russia.
              2. Strezhevchanin
                Strezhevchanin 23 November 2012 20: 55
                +2

                Do not forget!!!
                1. imguskov
                  imguskov 24 November 2012 10: 42
                  +2
                  Unfortunately, the memory of today's youth is short and the older generation is to blame for this. We could not protect our youth from the Gorbachev-Yeltsin debauchery, we did not convey to the consciousness of young people the friendship of the peoples of the USSR, which the whole country was proud of when a person, being in any republic of the USSR, felt at home, in his native land - in his homeland. These were wonderful times, people were not divided into Russians, Uzbeks, Tajiks, Kazakhs - we were united and lived as one huge friendly family.
                  The USSR needed to be modernized, not crumbled, it was not necessary to allow the Gorbachev-Yeltsin fraudulent group to the souls of our children with dirty, not washed hands and black thoughts. Instead of workers, these scammers made consumers out of our children, tried to eradicate their sense of patriotism, the feeling of their homeland; the main values ​​they tried to instill in our children theft, hacking, drug addiction, prostitution with the aim of moral decay and capture the natural wealth of our country. To you drugs - to us oil, to you pornography - to us gas, to you Pepsikola - to us forests, gold, silver. Today, young people have realized the fraud of power, the government will no longer be able to fool people, it feels its end and therefore throws its devoted henchmen such as Serdyukov to the altar of justice. But with these handouts, the government will not retain its authority and it will have to give way to honest people.
        2. Maks111
          Maks111 22 November 2012 12: 46
          +3
          Analyze the history of the Serbs. They became brothers Orthodox Slavs only when they were FAVORABLE to them, and in other cases they occupied an intro-Russian policy. And Tajiks silently without timid work without requiring anything but a small salary.
          Yes, the Serbs are perhaps the only people on the planet who are normal. applies. Personally, I have not yet met a single Serb on the Internet, who would be bad about Russians. But I met a lot of Serbs who are very positive about Russians.
          1. Strezhevchanin
            Strezhevchanin 23 November 2012 21: 11
            0
            Maks111
            The Serbs and Greeks, by the way, unlike the whole of Europe, fought on our side against Adolf, a low bow ........ but ours did not support them at the right time, but in vain recourse
        3. Blackscorp
          Blackscorp 22 November 2012 13: 05
          +5
          Quote: Shuhrat Turani
          Everyone who wanted to move has already moved! Resource is 80% exhausted.

          Your information is fundamentally wrong ... I myself come from Kazakhstan and not everyone who wanted to leave there left .... All my friends there would have left long ago, but restrains:
          1. Citizenship
          2. Inability to purchase housing, at least not much worse than what is available in Kazakhstan
          Or do you not know how many young families we give birth to children or give birth to only one child due to the lack of normal housing?
          Quote: Shuhrat Turani
          Pure populism. You’ll just give out apartments, the budget will end quickly. And the infusion of petrodollars into the economy without an increase in industrial production will end in fierce inflation, which will ultimately lead to impoverishment of the population and the birth rate will decrease even more.

          First of all, I do not propose to give away apartments just like that, where did I write this? There is an option without interest-bearing loans from the state, for example ... What is a bad investment ..... in people? How many people who come to work will return later, to the same state in the form of direct and indirect taxes, how much they will produce, etc. I mean certainly much more than "lost interest" .... and you know that one of the main factors slowing down the growth of prom. production in our country, is it precisely the lack of skilled workers? It is stupid to pour petrodollars into the economy, this will lead to inflation ... I don’t suggest this ... again, bypass ... But you can invest them in production? at the same housing, road construction (for reference: the Great Depression in the United States ended after the start of massive road construction, and this in turn pulled out the entire economy .....). but you never know where you can invest money ... Anticipating criticism: yes, you only need strict control over the spending of funds
          Quote: Shuhrat Turani
          Analyze the history of the Serbs. They became brothers Orthodox Slavs only when they were FAVORABLE to them, and in other cases they occupied an intro-Russian policy. And Tajiks silently without timid work without requiring anything but a small salary.

          I analyze: the history of the Russian state, namely the development of Little Russia and Taurida ... Who developed this region? Serbs and Greeks .... Who gave shelter to our people who fled from Russia after the revolution? Serbs and Bulgarians .... Need more examples from history? And your "favorite" Tajiks and others like them in Moscow block the streets during Muslim holidays, shoot with other diasporas (we had it in Chelyabinsk) .... And, of course, they work in silence and don't demand anything ....
          1. urzul
            urzul 22 November 2012 13: 27
            0
            Your information is fundamentally wrong ... I myself come from Kazakhstan and not everyone who wanted to leave there left .... All my friends there would have left long ago, but restrains:
            1. Citizenship
            2. Inability to purchase housing, at least not much worse than what is available in Kazakhstan
            Or do you not know how many young families we give birth to children or give birth to only one child due to the lack of normal housing?
            In 89, 6,2 million Russians lived in Kazakhstan, now 3.7 million remains. In 2011, more than 20 000 Russians left Kazakhstan.
            And if you compare other republics of the former USSR, the picture is even worse. In Tajikistan and Belarus, however, there are less Russians put together than in the United States.

            There is an option without interest-bearing loans from the state, for example ... What is a bad investment ..... in people?
            Mortgage from 9%, well, if you go to work for state enterprises, then from 4-5%
            1. Blackscorp
              Blackscorp 22 November 2012 14: 17
              0
              Quote: urzul
              In 89, 6,2 million Russians lived in Kazakhstan, now 3.7 million remains. In 2011, more than 20 000 Russians left Kazakhstan.
              And if you compare other republics of the former USSR, the picture is even worse. In Tajikistan and Belarus, however, there are less Russians put together than in the United States.

              I agree with the estimates, but did not understand why you ....
              Quote: urzul
              Mortgage from 9%, well, if you go to work for state enterprises, then from 4-5%

              And how much to get a 9% mortgage you need a down payment and where to get it to the family that was just created, where people are only 22-25 (conditionally) years old. And then the wife gives birth to a child and one husband works? I heard about 4.5% in the Russian Railways, but it seems like taking it is not so simple ... You can say that there is still a program for helping young families ... Only it, something doesn’t work very well ....
      3. Maks111
        Maks111 22 November 2012 12: 35
        +4
        We do not give citizenship to 25 Kosovo Serbs (by the way Orthodox), but we soften the arrival of Tajiks to us .....
        Exactly! Pretty boy!
        Somehow I read somewhere such a version that they say Putin set the goal of changing the ethnic composition of Russia.
        And further. With all due respect to all nationalities, but
        State Duma deputy representing United Russia, Gadzhet Safaraliev. Safaraliev heads the Committee on Nationalities and works on legislative support of the state’s national policy.
        .Now it’s clear to me why our authorities are so loyal to visitors from Central Asia.
        That is, "our" authorities decided to take a simpler path. They beat the indigenous population of Russia and decided to simply bring in migrants instead of raising the birth rate.
        1. urzul
          urzul 22 November 2012 12: 48
          +1
          What is the indigenous population of Russia? Ukrainians, Russians, Belarusians?
          A deputy was born in Makhachkala, he is not Russian and has no right in Russia?
          instead of raising the birth rate.
          Learn how many young people of childbearing age we have after the 90's. Then you will understand that in order to increase the number of Russians, they will have to give birth to 5-7 children. If you have a daughter 20-30 years old, ask her is she ready to give birth to so many children, even if they buy her an apartment, a car, etc. etc.
          1. Mairos
            Mairos 22 November 2012 16: 53
            +2
            "A deputy was born in Makhachkala, he is not Russian"

            Do you think that someone from, even if Dagestanis, considers himself Russian ?! Do not make me laugh. I understand very well the worldview of the guys from the Caucasus. They have a clan (relatives), then fellow countrymen and business and their "small homeland".
            I am writing to you about what is often eaten, and not what they very often declare with foam at the mouth, sometimes. A clan worldview in its purest form, and Russia is a place where they are comfortable and comfortable living at a given time. Many showdowns in the same Dagestan, this is not a showdown between security officials and certain Islamists, but often a clan fight, some of which seized the power manger, while others want to get to it.
          2. Ascetic
            Ascetic 22 November 2012 17: 09
            +2
            Quote: urzul
            Learn how many young people of childbearing age we have after the 90s.


            The Ministry of Defense calculated that starting from 2011 and until 2025 the number of young people at the age of 18 will be 600-650 thousand people, i.e. the Russian army will not be able to wage a global war, even if you urge everyone clean. So here we can not do without the citizens of the now independent republics. You can’t sit on nuclear weapons for a long time, But what if a chain of local conflicts arises near borders or within the country? There are three ways out.
            First: to honestly admit that under no circumstances will Russia be able to have an Armed Forces of 1 million people, and then continue the campaign launched by Serdyukov to recruit contractors and after 10 years to abandon the draft at all. Second: return to two, or better, three years of conscription service, and so cover the shortage of personnel. The third is to create conditions for attracting former compatriots to the army.
            Now about the migrants. I do not want to repeat an integral part of the corruption business in Russia and nothing more. And all the talk about migration and national policies, as they say, is in favor of the poor. So far, everyone is interested in them, from big business to the district police officer and the head of the housing department, things will not get off the ground. It will reach a critical point here as theft in strategically important security structures may then begin to adopt the relevant laws and restrictions. In the meantime, you can still cut the loot for some time until it is gone.
            1. Alex_g23r
              Alex_g23r 22 November 2012 20: 38
              0
              >. The Ministry of Defense has calculated that starting from 2011 until 2025, the number of young people aged 18 years will be 600-650 thousand people, that is, the Russian army will not be able to wage a global war, even if everyone is called on to clean up. So here we can not do without the citizens of the now independent republics.

              Do you propose taking these citizens into our army?
        2. vadimN
          vadimN 22 November 2012 14: 57
          +3
          Quote: Max111
          decided to just start migrants instead of raising the birth rate.


          so everything is correct. This just fits into the technology of changing the ethnic composition of Russia. More precisely, the goal is the complete destruction of the Russians as an ethnic group, the bearer of a kind of genetics.
      4. brat2
        brat2 22 November 2012 15: 46
        +1
        Blackscorp
        Do you think that those in power simply do not know what measures should be taken? fool Not fools are sitting there.
        This policy is intentional. And the goals, in my opinion, have been clear for a long time and to all, with the exception of the full fraction **** s.
      5. Mairos
        Mairos 22 November 2012 16: 19
        +2
        Well, plin, the authorities will never trample against the "universal" rules - the guts are thin. You have voiced the correct idea, but which of our leaders would dare to offer such a thing officially? Immediately, a bunch of cryopreservationists will accuse him of national or confessional segregation - but what, is it really possible to call only the Slavs or the Orthodox, it’s necessary to every heap, all and sundry, that is, it’s Africa and Asia, first of all, will break. And the fact that we don't need Asia and Africa here at all .. well, who cares about this from the authorities, the opinions of foreign "partners" are more important to them, well, and the benefit, where can we go without it. Even advertisements in newspapers like "Rent an apartment to a family of Slavs" forbid publishers to print.
        1. imguskov
          imguskov 22 November 2012 21: 21
          0
          You are right. Mairos, the government will not go against universal rules, you are wrong that there are no proposals at the government level - they are at the level of the State Duma and laws are developed, as well as programs for overcoming the crisis and conducting private entrepreneurship. And these programs are worthy of the attention of the people, entrepreneurs and businessmen are also interested in these programs, because they make it possible to conduct an honest, non-shadow business, which allows quiet businessmen, businessmen and the whole people to live in peace. Demon of bias, read the program for overcoming the crisis of Zyuganov, as well as read his program of private enterprise. But the authorities are afraid of these programs at the level of the president and United Russia, because the programs eradicate theft in power.
    2. Shuhrat turani
      Shuhrat turani 22 November 2012 11: 33
      -1
      Quote: boris.radevitch
      It is necessary to tighten immigration and the only way we will achieve victory! am


      Victory over whom? I myself live in Siberia, and how many times I talked with guys, men, no one wants to work as plumbers, janitors, builders ... Everyone goes to managers ... I don’t like a Russian person working on the street, in cold weather, etc. . Work in Siberia involves deprivation and an ascetic lifestyle, the indigenous population is not ready for this, and migrants are ready. And what kind of economy without migrants do you want to build?
      1. urzul
        urzul 22 November 2012 11: 37
        +1
        They have one way out, give the janitors sn from 25 virgin and there will be prosperity.
        Only here is that the rent will not increase by 5-10% but by 100-500% they do not understand.
        To us then illegal immigrants will climb in all possible ways, even despite the harsh punishment.
        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic 22 November 2012 17: 23
          +3
          Quote: urzul
          They have one way out, give the janitors sn from 25 virgin and there will be prosperity.


          And the wipers in Moscow, and so on, according to the statement, have a salary of 20-25 thousand, not counting the various allowances, only Russians are not among them, because the Tajik is really getting half the hands of his foreman, at best, the rest goes into the pocket of the bosses of the housing and communal services and roofing them law enforcement officers and streams should be in the pocket of the heads of various administrations. And tariffs and communal services are growing by 5-10% percent, not because the wipers have a small salary, but because the level of tariffs manually adjusts central power and this does not prevent officials from eating their "honestly earned" sandwich with caviar while driving a Lexus with an official salary of no more than 30 thousand. rubles.
      2. vadimN
        vadimN 22 November 2012 15: 01
        +2
        Quote: Shuhrat Turani
        Everyone goes to the managers ...


        This is a property of a deformed economy. As soon as it passes from the raw state to the normal state (self-sufficient), this whole crowd of office plankton will not be needed. They will have no choice but to go and become a skilled worker. And managers will become what they should be - not office plankton with an incomprehensible education, but competent engineers and managers, the best of the best who came from the same workers.

        Probably, from the height of today it is too idealistic picture, but it should be so!
    3. predator.3
      predator.3 22 November 2012 13: 58
      0
      While the whole world is suffering from the effects of the financial crisis, the income of migrants, despite all the external economic hardships, continues to increase. They continue to send money earned to their homeland stably, increasing capital outflows from Russia to the CIS and non-CIS countries, Nezavisimaya Gazeta writes, citing data from World Bank (WB) experts. According to statistics provided by experts, in the first six months of this year alone, individuals transferred approximately $ 7,7 billion to the CIS countries, most of which “flowed” to Tajikistan and Uzbekistan.

      The lion's share of transfers falls to non-CIS countries - $ 13,4 billion. For example, $ 1,3 billion was sent to Switzerland from Russia for the above period, and $ 1,2 billion to the United States. Moreover, experts are not surprised at this state of affairs at all and predict an increase in capital outflow due to the consent of migrants to work always, albeit for small salaries
      1. Brother Sarych
        Brother Sarych 22 November 2012 14: 03
        0
        You will probably be surprised, but money is not sent by the Western Union to the USA and Switzerland!
        1. Brother Sarych
          Brother Sarych 22 November 2012 18: 20
          0
          Presumably, those who did not hear about the flight of capital put the cons? Can you imagine the approximate volume?
      2. imguskov
        imguskov 22 November 2012 21: 47
        0
        The world crisis is fooling people to cover up the shortcomings of the president and the government, if a country produces products that are necessary for the people of this country and fully satisfy the population’s demand with these products, accompanied by its money supply equivalent to these products, then where does the global crisis? of the people! It’s a different matter if Russia sits on the drug-needle of a mineral resource base, rare earth metals, on timber trade (Obama eats Russian caviar, by the way) And he buys cucumbers in Spain and cans in Japan with the money received from trade - then of course There will be a global crisis in Russia, and teachers have nothing to pay, so the revolutionaries, like the unicorns of the same field, want to settle in the feeder. There are worthy people who will raise agriculture and industry, and put a big device on the dollar, for which we give oil, gas, forest and these people from the renewed communists. The Germans will come to power, there will be the same rospils.

        Europe, so what is the economic crisis? The question is of course interesting and its main conclusion is that the ratio of productive forces, or rather, the gap (disposition) i.e. directly the forces that produce specific products and the forces that prepare, maintain, supply and manage are 90%. For example, in Greece there is a hospital, it exists as a state structure, in this hospital there is a garden in which there are three trees, and the staff of gardeners There are 300 people in this hospital. This suggests that the head of this hospital has the opportunity to receive money from the state budget, write off this money to registered people and appropriate it. But this is just one example, and how many such examples are throughout Greece? That is why the Greek economy is in decline, the country's budget is stolen, and in the end, Greece was forced to put their land for auction.
    4. nutmeg
      nutmeg 23 November 2012 15: 04
      +1
      Give 6 acres, a loan at normal interest rates so that an American, frame house to build and the whole of eastern Europe will come.
  2. YARY
    YARY 22 November 2012 08: 33
    +16
    This problem is not in the plane - the law
    This is a problem in the plane of application of laws.
    That is, bureaucrats are pests, and nothing more!
    1. Z.A.M.
      Z.A.M. 22 November 2012 09: 53
      +24
      YARY
      Quote: Ardent
      That is, bureaucrats are pests, and nothing more!
      Dear, WHAT "bureaucrats" ???

      "After approval the president countries of the Concept of state migration policy for the period up to 2025 ... " P R E S I D E N T O M, i.e. P U T AND N Y M !!!
      Here is WHERE "legs" grow.
      It is Putin who is the main "fighter" against all "Russianness".
      And the fact that there are different fart farting, this is an elementary performance "chivo will say".
      And it doesn’t matter 1 million or 100. Most importantly, they are generally NOT needed. But ... this is already for us (the main thing !!!) decided toor rather - RESH AND L !!!
      Forget about the Russians, whom, for the world of 100 million, Putin is for tolerance ... Apparently, indeed, he will soon come true: Roysya - in fart ...
      Bitter and painful ...
      1. Mr. Truth
        Mr. Truth 22 November 2012 12: 16
        +1
        Quote: Z.A.M.
        Forget the Russians, who, around the world for 100 million

        There are 130 million Russians in the world including Russia, in the Soviet Union alone in 1989 there were 125 million in all republics.
    2. baltika-18
      baltika-18 22 November 2012 09: 53
      +6
      Quote: Ardent
      This problem is not in the plane - the law
      This is a problem in the plane of application of laws.
      That is, bureaucrats are pests, and nothing more!

      This is not the problem. The problem lies in the system created in the country over the past 20 years by Yeltsin and his gallant followers. Moreover, I will say that at the moment we don’t need migrants at all, except for Russians from the former Soviet republics. if you wish, of course. Here’s for them to develop a system of incentives for resettlement. But the main thing is to change the system in the country, without it we will come to a standstill, there will be no development. Current bosses are not going to fundamentally change anything. On a lie, theft, rudeness will build.
      1. denisey
        denisey 22 November 2012 10: 32
        +6
        I will say more, we must abandon Moscow as in 1812 and go east, they will gnaw at each other. But you need to leave very quickly)))))))))))))))))))
  3. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 22 November 2012 08: 37
    +21
    If migrants with a good education are needed, then first of all they should be Russians, the same non-citizens from the Baltic countries. We definitely don’t need 50-70 million Tajiks and others. Multiculturalism is already striding across Europe and I don’t want to the country began to build mosques, as is now happening in Moscow.
    1. Reddragon
      Reddragon 22 November 2012 09: 33
      +5
      I would see where they dig up 70mln. migrants with red peels wassat
      To bring migrants to 50% relative to the population - the Nobel Prize for the most stupid law in the last few years fellow
      Already now they say that there is nothing to occupy the unemployed, and there will be generally
      1. urzul
        urzul 22 November 2012 11: 14
        -3
        Already now they say that there is nothing to occupy the unemployed, and there will be generally
        Where does the statistics come from? About economist-lawyer accountants do not remember only.
      2. vadimN
        vadimN 22 November 2012 15: 03
        +1
        Quote: RedDragoN
        To bring migrants to 50% relative to the population -


        So much for the legal, calm way of genocide of the Russian people and changing the national composition of the country's inhabitants ...
        1. brat2
          brat2 22 November 2012 15: 51
          0
          Who would doubt that.
      3. brat2
        brat2 22 November 2012 15: 50
        0
        Reddragon

        But how to rob, kill and rape?
        And you say nothing to do ...
  4. Samovar
    Samovar 22 November 2012 08: 46
    +24
    In his opinion, the country needs about 50-70 million foreign migrants,

    For such proposals, he himself should be kicked in the ass from Russia. It is necessary, on the contrary, to toughen the migration policy, or even better, simply to close the borders with these "workaholics", you see, drugs will get into the country less.
    1. YARY
      YARY 22 November 2012 08: 51
      +11
      Uv Sergey
      Completely agree with YOU, such a figure, there is an almost instant "washout" of the Russian ethnos, and as in Freud, such a "proverb" is evidence of the harmful essence of those who pronounce these "ideas"!
      Emigrants MUST BE ZERO !!
    2. Shuhrat turani
      Shuhrat turani 22 November 2012 11: 47
      -1
      Quote: Samovar
      For such proposals, he himself should be kicked in the ass from Russia. It is necessary, on the contrary, to toughen the migration policy, or even better, simply to close the borders with these "workaholics", you see, drugs will get into the country less.

      What is the connection between workaholics and drugs? Drug is imported with the support of high-ranking citizens, representatives of the titular nation ...

      But in general, I am against attracting foreign cities. We need to enter the maritime entrance for 10 years ... And then we'll see what happens
      1. Samovar
        Samovar 22 November 2012 12: 10
        +2
        Quote: Shuhrat Turani
        What is the connection between workaholics and drugs?

        The connection here is between drugs and open borders. And for the sale of drugs, I would generally shoot.
        1. Shuhrat turani
          Shuhrat turani 22 November 2012 23: 39
          +3
          Quote: Samovar
          . And for the sale of drugs, I would generally shoot.


          I, too, rightly
    3. strannik595
      strannik595 22 November 2012 12: 29
      +1
      MP Safaraliev apparently cares about relatives ................. interesting, but are there normal people among the deputies or some cranks?
      1. urzul
        urzul 22 November 2012 12: 38
        0
        He was born on 26 on June 1950 in the capital of Dagestan - the city of Makhachkala.

        In 1972, he graduated with honors from the Physics Department of Dagestan State University. In 1975, he graduated from the graduate school of the Leningrad Electrotechnical Institute (LETI), defended his thesis. In 1989, he defended his doctoral dissertation. In 1991, the title of professor was awarded.

        His research interests include physics and technology of high-temperature semiconductors and ceramic materials. Author of about 200 scientific articles, textbooks and patents.

        In 1994, one of 400 Russian natural scientists was awarded the title "Sorovskiy professor". In the same year he was awarded the title "Honored Scientist of the Republic of Dagestan". In 1996 he became a laureate of the RD State Prize in the field of science and technology. In 1999 he was elected a corresponding member of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences (RANS). Member of a number of international academies and societies.

        Before being elected to the State Duma, he worked as vice-rector for scientific work and development of Dagestan State University.

        But we are talking about attracting qualified emigrants and Russians living abroad.
        Reading your comments from Russia, I immediately want to blame.
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 22 November 2012 13: 18
          +1
          Quote: urzul
          Reading your comments from Russia, I immediately want to blame.

          You shouldn't be like that. You have to fight, not dump. Safaraliev, speaking in the language of the "six" zone, voices what is ordered. professors.
          1. urzul
            urzul 22 November 2012 13: 37
            -7
            Who to fight with? Expel all emigrants and what? As I already heard about a decent payment (a janitor under 30 and free housing), and who will produce all this? Either the engineer will go to the wipers, or because of the growth of sn. the latter will again have no janitors. In our country, there is a huge shortage of labor that cannot be replenished overnight. Unfortunately, there are not many girls on the site, they would have suggested that you many 7 give birth to children, (Has anyone been present at the birth?), And that’s just to In the 2020 year the Russians became 2 million more.
            1. Light source
              Light source 22 November 2012 17: 32
              +1
              Quote: urzul
              We have a huge labor shortage in our country

              Nonsense. In our country, an overabundance of traders!
              1. urzul
                urzul 26 November 2012 10: 13
                -1
                Apparently a shopkeeper, since guest workers are bothering you.
            2. vyatom
              vyatom 23 November 2012 11: 31
              +1
              Who told you about labor shortages. This is said by those who have a good broth due to the use of subhuman.
              1. urzul
                urzul 26 November 2012 10: 12
                0
                Myself as an employer
        2. Mairos
          Mairos 22 November 2012 17: 04
          +2
          Yes, he is educated - who argues! And smart, for sure, at that level there are no fools at all. It's about something else. The problem of communication between Russians and Caucasians, generally speaking, is not that someone is WORSE or BETTER. Just different nations too, completely different. Russian in Dagestan, too, can live in peace .. if they live quietly, without showing off. And Dagestanis, especially young people, are PENDING, considering themselves a priori the coolest of all, they try to lift their nose above the eyebrows. That attitude is to them.
          In the late 80s, I was crazy about their worldview. Sometimes you talk one-on-one - a normal guy, and when a couple of fellow countrymen stand next to you - everything, pipets - a brazen, self-confident type in front of you, with wild conceit.
      2. nic
        nic 22 November 2012 14: 28
        +3
        We have a prime eccentric with the letter "m". It fights over time, then offers to build nanodirizhabli, and you ask for the deputies, if you are a naive person. wassat
    4. baltika-18
      baltika-18 22 November 2012 13: 11
      +4
      Quote: Samovar
      just close the borders with these "workaholics"

      As for closing the borders, it’s a sensible proposal, but I’ll repeat it again, under the current government, which is not feasible. Everyone understands who needs migrants in our country, who is behind this, and why all this is necessary.
  5. efefefd
    efefefd 22 November 2012 08: 47
    0
    Now non-citizens will directly run in millions))) these non-citizens live on moving excisable goods through the garage and unemployment benefits and therefore do not want to get passports then they will need a visa laughing Yes, and Tajiks with Uzbeks in the Russian Federation will not live it’s one thing to work the season and then build a house with this money and even they will not live here and will not remain laughing and generally only hope for the Chinese
  6. WW3
    WW3 22 November 2012 08: 51
    +5
    At the same time, it is rather difficult to imagine that labor migrants entering Russia would move exclusively towards the uninhabited regions of Siberia and the Far East to bring these regions to the forefront of economic positions in the country.

    Yes, they all want to go to Moscow, but Moscow is not rubber.
    resettle millions of foreign citizens who have arrived to work in Russia in abandoned huts or in the taiga

    Let them build new railways .. when the BAM people built they lived, otherwise they can build another five-star hotel in the taiga? wassat
  7. UI-Spb
    UI-Spb 22 November 2012 08: 53
    +4
    How is he going to occupy 70 million migrants ?! What a figure from the ceiling! Only a specialist in quotas and with a specific invitation from the employer should enter. All the rest are not particularly needed. There is nothing to inflate the subsidized part of the budget!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 22 November 2012 09: 02
      +4
      Quote: UI-Spb
      How is he going to occupy 70 million migrants ?! What a figure from the ceiling!

      A coup d'etat is more than enough.
      1. volcano
        volcano 22 November 2012 10: 08
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        A coup d'etat is more than enough.


        Very well said +

        Let's bring 70 million Muslims or Chinese and in 10 years this country will be called whatever you like, but not Russian Orthodox ... well, or the Russian Federation
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 22 November 2012 10: 23
          +2
          Quote: volkan
          Let's bring 70 million Muslims or Chinese and in 10 years this country will be called whatever you like, but not Russia

          10 years old, you’re an optimist. You won’t pass the year and ................. hi
          1. volcano
            volcano 22 November 2012 10: 57
            +1
            Alexander Romanov,
            Well, how are you? Alexander?

            Already three years on moral-volitional we will stretch wink
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 22 November 2012 11: 05
              +2
              Quote: volkan
              Already three years on moral-volitional we will stretch

              The people will hold out, but the officials will go to the mercy of the "winner". In Byzantium there was something like that, only the Ottomans chopped off their heads.
            2. Wertynskiy
              Wertynskiy 22 November 2012 15: 35
              +2
              Quote: volkan
              Already three years on moral-volitional we will stretch

              It’s unlikely to be morally strong-willed, but with the law on the free carrying of short-barreled weapons you can hold out longer !!!
              GOOD WORD AND GUN, BELIEVE BETTER THAN JUST A GOOD WORD!
        2. brat2
          brat2 22 November 2012 15: 55
          +4
          It was the federalists who called this country a federation.
          There has always been and will be Russia.
    2. vyatom
      vyatom 23 November 2012 11: 33
      +1
      I completely agree. Everyone else, along with the women and children back to Churkestan.
      1. vyatom
        vyatom 23 November 2012 12: 17
        0
        I got excited, of course, but immigration policy needs to be tightened as much as possible.
  8. IRBIS
    IRBIS 22 November 2012 08: 55
    +9
    The author is right, in the absence of a strict migration policy, we can lose our homeland, as such. Already, the streets of our cities are filled with a mass that wanted to spit on Russia and its traditions. Let our boundless open spaces be better than feeling like a foreigner in your own country.
  9. borisst64
    borisst64 22 November 2012 08: 57
    +14
    If a deputy by the name of Gadzhimet Safaraliev determines how to live the RUSSIAN PEOPLE, then we have very good things to do.
    1. skullcap
      skullcap 22 November 2012 10: 11
      +2
      A deputy named Gadzhimet Safaraliev takes care of his fellow tribesmen and from this point of view he does everything logically and correctly.

      The Russians, making up 80% of the population, didn’t find in their own people any Ivanov more worthy than the mentioned Safiaraliev.
      1. Allitet
        Allitet 22 November 2012 11: 49
        -1
        Let them create normal working conditions, at least for the Russians, then the same worthy Ivanov will not go anywhere abroad, and 70 million migrants will not come for his place. sad
    2. Maks111
      Maks111 22 November 2012 12: 55
      +5
      It is necessary to collect the militia as 400 years ago from the Poles.
  10. Ramses_IV
    Ramses_IV 22 November 2012 08: 59
    +2
    How to understand 70 of millions of migrants? Those. we have a third of the population will be migrants? Well then, let the government get ready for a new wave of separatism and radical Islamism, only on a regional scale. Yes, this expansion is already going on. We already have too much ... Oh, excuse me, there are so many migrants from the middle that they are already slowly starting to harbor and will soon begin to dictate their conditions to us. And those of my acquaintances who recently arrived in Moscow by train already say that when they left for the station, they thought that they were in Tashkent. I don’t know, of course, whether it is true or not.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 22 November 2012 09: 04
      +2
      Quote: Ramses_IV
      Well then, let the government get ready for a new wave of separatism and radical Islamism, only on a regional scale

      No, not to the government, but to you and me. The government is guarded, and we clash on the streets every day, rusty, only without guards. They already feel at home, it's time to tie it up.
    2. Yoke
      Yoke 22 November 2012 15: 59
      0
      True true. Himself from the suburbs, I work and study in Moscow time. So, if you travel in the Moscow metro after 21 hours, then an amazing picture opens up - people with European facial features in a car can be counted on the fingers of one hand. Further - even more interesting ... You leave the metro (I live on Tekstilshchiki) and find yourself in the combined branches of Dushanbe, Tajikistan and Makhachkala. Feel at a party in the capital of your country.
    3. brat2
      brat2 22 November 2012 16: 00
      0
      Ramses_IV,

      Yes it's true.
      "YOU WILL SAY MUSKVABAD" is called.
      You go on an escalator and for 7-8 chu *** Asians and highlanders 1-2 people of Slavic appearance come across :(
  11. The centurion
    The centurion 22 November 2012 09: 00
    +2
    This is not the first time I have been trying to attract the attention of society, for example, countries with developed commodity economies. First of all, on the example of Australia and Canada, because these countries provide us with a worthy, and most importantly useful and adequate example of the effective development of the commodity economy. These examples are fundamentally different from useless examples replicated and imposed by the guidrasts from the development of countries with completely different natural, climatic, demographic, economic, mental and other conditions. These countries do not force the production and export of finished products, but are actively engaged in import substitution. They, for example, have several places where iron ore and coking coal deposits are closely located. It would seem that God himself ordered the construction of a metallurgical plant there and the export of finished steel. But they prefer to export coal and iron ore concentrate, and let the metal from these concentrates be produced in China, Korea, Japan. There are several reasons for this.
    - at current prices from the extraction and enrichment of raw materials, a good and stable income
    - with the development of production for more advanced processing of raw materials for export, along with value added, there remains “smoke and dirt” in the country and many other undesirable environmental problems that require high costs for waste disposal and emissions
    - relatively small population in these countries. If in the mining industry there is a relatively high labor productivity, which does not require large imports of labor, then with the excessive development of the manufacturing industry for export, large imports of labor from Asia are required, which introduces many undesirable demographic problems.
    So there is something to learn from these issues, although even they have to restrain imports of labor from Asia. Therefore, attention should be focused primarily on import substitution to cover domestic consumption, and not on the production of finished products for export. Both they and we have enough raw materials for export. This structure and orientation of the economy allows these countries to have stable surpluses in all spheres of economic activity for decades and is the basis of the model of sustainable development of these countries. At the same time, their homegrown intelligentsia and elite do not sing endless and mournful goat songs about a raw materials appendage, probably with a wisdom they also have a surplus. And ours sings, and this is the main problem.

    http://topwar.ru/19526-k-ocherednoy-godovschine-okonchaniya-pervoy-mirovoy-voyny
    .html
    1. Letnab
      Letnab 22 November 2012 09: 25
      +4
      And as a result of the export of raw materials to our neighbors, we remain a raw materials appendage, and they develop production, science for production? And do we get products? There is something sensible in thought, but for our country it will not work in full. There is a lot of work to be done long and thoughtfully. And to engage in brainwashing the population about their future, and no matter how the movie is on TV, it’s like drinking, scuffle, bandits and thieves .... of course, too, but I don’t want to boast about it, but soldiers, officers , sailors, pilots, just hard workers, large families, and to help them as much as possible about them, then there will be some kind of positive shift, and illiterate residents of neighboring republics will not be needed ,,,,
      1. sq
        sq 22 November 2012 11: 56
        +1
        Read carefully. The main word is IMPORT SUBSTITUTION. The amount of finished high-tech products necessary for domestic consumption is produced, but the main export is raw materials for dirty production. As a result, ideally, we have a denyuzhka for export, we have our own goods and technologies for domestic consumption and are not very bad for ourselves (in terms of ecology).
    2. imguskov
      imguskov 13 January 2013 19: 56
      0
      The whole problem is that the difference in the cost of raw materials and finished products sometimes is 2500%.
      If you agree to lose two and a half thousand percent, you can also export raw materials for processing, for example, to China. Times have passed when the Americans built factories in China using only cheap labor, today many countries have modern technologies and this option of processing raw materials will ruin you.
      The Russian economy should provide for the needs of the people of Russia and no export or import is desirable, either. Raw materials, or rather all the wealth of Russia should not be sold to the side, but stored for future generations.
      What to do with the people? Entertainment, 6 acres is also entertainment and profit too. And so that it would not be unreasonable to stare at our natural resources to create a powerful army, power structures to combat subversive activities, espionage, and fraud.
      Today, people are suffering from unemployment ,,, And oil, by the will of Putin, flows into Europe and America, and the strangest thing is that cucumbers are brought into Russia for the money earned from the sale of oil to Russia. Mr. Putin, are you all right? Change oil for cucumbers. Just do not lie that the money from oil goes to the maintenance of orphanages, pensioners, people with disabilities, this money goes not to them.
      Factories need to be built near the field, but the plant should provide only for its Russian citizens, only in this case the environment will be appropriate and its people will receive products, and most importantly, this will be fair to our children and grandchildren. But this is no longer capitalism, but work for your people and your homeland.
  12. Skiff
    Skiff 22 November 2012 09: 00
    +6
    Yes, the recipe is simple, stop stealing officials, stop forgiving debts to countries, build a bunch of kindergartens for free, at the birth of a third child give a free apartment where you live, free children from paying a rent, and in 3-20 years we will increase the country's population 30 times.
    But the children are right for a long time, you won’t get any exhaust from them in the moment, it’s another thing slave migrant workers, you can milk, pay tribute, don’t complain, and they don’t put their nose into politics.
    In general, everything is clear, our current government does not need an indigenous population.
    1. Cadets
      Cadets 22 November 2012 11: 09
      0
      First of all, to increase the birth rate of its own population, it is now necessary to provide targeted assistance to regions, where the least children are born - and this is Central Russia and the Far East (on average 1,2 children per family). Now public funds (maternity capital, etc.) are directed to all subjects, regardless of birth rate. So, huge funds go to the Caucasus, where there are already birth records (1st place in the country - Chechnya, 2nd - Ingushetia ...), and "average" families have five to seven children.
    2. Shuhrat turani
      Shuhrat turani 22 November 2012 11: 53
      -2
      Quote: Skiff
      Yes, the recipe is simple, stop stealing officials, stop forgiving debts to countries, build a bunch of kindergartens for free, at the birth of a third child give a free apartment where you live, free children from paying a rent, and in 3-20 years we will increase the country's population 30 times.


      Rather, the consumption of alcohol, coke and gerych will increase by 4 times, and the number of operations to increase female breasts will increase. The Pepsi generation has other values, and this also needs to be considered ...
  13. Strashila
    Strashila 22 November 2012 09: 01
    +13
    The actual call for the occupation of Russia ... Syria fights this and pays thousands of lives, but we are like awesome Westerners, we ourselves will lie ... come. That the gastrikas will go to the factories ... there will be no factories and there won’t be, but they wouldn’t go there to work nor their descendants themselves. And what kind of hands are we talking about ??? A crane and excavator should work at a construction site. They will never become citizens of Russia ... someone quoted an Eastern proverb ... a donkey who has been in the shade, will not work in the sun ... so this is about the bulk of migrants ... citizenship ... and an eternal, many-year-old unemployed detainee. .. they will still require free housing and more for maintenance. This can be compared like this ... a lover always costs more than the most fastidious wife ... Can close the borders and make living conditions so that citizens themselves want to have a future. Our bad here the order is better than their good there. Not a country, but a passage yard. A conversation already !!! about 70 million ... and for a couple of months Naz only talked about a couple of lyamas.
    1. The centurion
      The centurion 22 November 2012 09: 15
      +5
      Quote: Strashila
      A crane and excavator should work at a construction site.

      Gold words. Due to the shortage of labor, Russia has a unique opportunity and need to create a highly mechanized and automated economy. And our homegrown hyderasts, economists and managers, as before, are only capable of counting dumb hands.
      1. Shuhrat turani
        Shuhrat turani 22 November 2012 12: 06
        -5
        Quote: Centurion
        Due to the shortage of labor, Russia has a unique opportunity and need to create a highly mechanized and automated economy.


        this requires brains, and they are all drunk, smoked and littered with chauvinistic crap ...
        1. Blackscorp
          Blackscorp 22 November 2012 14: 00
          +1
          Quote: Shuhrat Turani
          this requires brains, and they are all drunk, smoked and littered with chauvinistic crap ...


          Judging by your comments, your brains are no less clogged with chauvinistic crap, and also Russophobia ... about the rest of your statements, I can’t say ...
          1. nic
            nic 22 November 2012 14: 36
            0
            A standard Central Asian Nazi, and there are more and more of them. Particularly stupid already openly say that they de built, in my case, St. Petersburg. The guys from Metrostroy described, they start to throw out such knees, it will be more fun further.
    2. Shuhrat turani
      Shuhrat turani 22 November 2012 12: 04
      -4
      [quote = Strashila]. That the gastrikas will go to the factories to work ... so there will be no factories and never will be, but if they had not gone to work for a while neither their descendants themselves would. [/ quote]

      Unlike Russians, they work there ... In our region, only Gaster and work, and the titulars sit at home devouring vodka and write in nete about the greatness of the Russian man

      [quote = Strashila] someone quoted an Eastern proverb ... a donkey who has been in the shade will not work in the sun ... so this is about the bulk of migrants .. [/ quote
      No, this is about the titles. Are there many Russians at construction sites, in yards, in the taiga? I work as Gaster and Russians go to managers, merchandisers, etc. those. into unproductive sectors of the economy (reselling, shearing, washing cars, etc.)

      [quote = Strashila] eternal large unemployed child of many children ... they will still require free housing and more for maintenance. [/ quote]
      ]
      This is only the Russian demand, you see, they can’t breed without additional benefits, without rest abroad, without money for a booze. THOSE. Russian people cannot sacrifice their own goods for the sake of having children. For the rest of humanity, children in themselves are of the highest value.
      1. Was mammoth
        Was mammoth 22 November 2012 13: 06
        +3
        Quote: Shuhrat Turani
        Unlike Russians, they work there ...


        This is in what factories and in which regions have you seen skilled workers working migrant workers? I have not met. I'm an engineer, not a manager.
        1. Shuhrat turani
          Shuhrat turani 22 November 2012 23: 43
          0
          timber processing. Operation, debugging of equipment for timber processing
      2. nic
        nic 22 November 2012 14: 24
        0
        And you, by chance, are not Russophobe?
        1. Mairos
          Mairos 22 November 2012 19: 11
          +3
          He simply leaves the right to nationalism to everyone except the Russians. His Russians are endowed with all conceivable negative character traits.
        2. Shuhrat turani
          Shuhrat turani 22 November 2012 23: 45
          0
          Quote: nic
          And you, by chance, are not Russophobe?

          no, rather a skeptic.
      3. Mairos
        Mairos 22 November 2012 19: 07
        +3
        You know, in our 20 years with a tail, indeed, many have been brainwashed. Many simply broke their lives with these reforms, while someone could not stand it - they drank too much. But the people as a whole plow, for the most part. Whoever could, he plows there. not Gaster for centuries in Russia plowed and sowed and pricked in factories. As for the children, I agree with you - the trouble is in our country, although here I have three. )))
        But if we have OWN with broken brains, why do we need ANOTHER with brains clogged with ALIEN nationalism? All these idiots of the Islamists and their sympathizers.
        If the guys from the Caucasus and Central Asia are so good - right and hard-working, then why do they have an ass and they come to us so shitty? The idea was to be the other way around. Is not it? And why can almost all Islamic countries offer nothing but reproduction at the speed of rabbits to the world? Why do we need the masses of the Islamic population, which then, due to its mass character, will begin to demand Islamic orders? Do we need it ?!
        1. Shuhrat turani
          Shuhrat turani 22 November 2012 23: 53
          +1
          Quote: Mairos
          If the guys from the Caucasus and Central Asia are so good - right and hard-working, then why do they have an ass and they come to us so shitty? The idea was to be the other way around. Is not it? And why can almost all Islamic countries offer nothing but reproduction at the speed of rabbits to the world? Why do we need the masses of the Islamic population, which then, due to its mass character, will begin to demand Islamic orders? Do we need it ?!


          while maintaining the current regime, with current corruption, international, religious hatred, the situation in Russia will be comparable with Iran, Pakistan ... Instead of working for the future, you are playing the great and wise Nazis here ... How do you not understand that while you are dividing people into Russians and you can’t build any worthy future ...
        2. vyatom
          vyatom 23 November 2012 11: 41
          +1
          Well done, author. And we do not need Gaster in any form. Russians can come from the hinterland and work at a construction site, etc. Only the employer will have to pay more, the margin will be less. And the stories about the fact that I have Uzbeks for 7000 work really is nonsense. I saw how they work. Have you entrusted yourself with changing windows in Tajiks or making repairs?
          Me not. And in serious apartment renovation offices they immediately say, "All our craftsmen are Russian." And I don't believe in friendship with Tajiks and Uzbeks. They hate us. Therefore, I send them back to the villages.
      4. denisey
        denisey 22 November 2012 20: 09
        -1
        you yap at home, we don’t need to deliver manure to the plots anymore, graze your sheep at home.
        1. Shuhrat turani
          Shuhrat turani 22 November 2012 23: 48
          0
          Quote: denisey
          you yap at home, we don’t need to deliver manure to the plots anymore, graze your sheep at home.


          I'm by the way at home. And I don’t pass the sheep ... Not the same engineer engaged in this crap ...

          from people like you all the troubles in Russia. You all piz .. you, instead of reading books.
          1. denisey
            denisey 24 November 2012 17: 25
            0
            Hey engineer, your slang is too much like a man who grazes sheep instead of reading books. By the way, it’s not difficult to find a ram who will sell an engineering degree, it’s hard to find a man who will teach BARAN that he be a man. But you rams do not need a mind when there is a purchased diploma of a ram engineer.
  14. Leisure
    Leisure 22 November 2012 09: 03
    +1
    Where did they get 70 million? The population of all of Central Asia (part of the USSR) is less than this figure. It turns out that the whole population will move to Russia? Rave.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 22 November 2012 09: 11
      +2
      Quote: Lazer
      . It turns out that the whole population will move to Russia? Rave.

      It would be possible to say so if a state official had not said this.
      1. Samovar
        Samovar 22 November 2012 09: 41
        +4
        Quote: Lazer
        The population of all of Central Asia (part of the USSR)

        Foreign migrants are not only Central Asia, there is also China. Here they will be just happy to throw 70 million to us. IMHO they already after this statement book tickets. wassat
    2. Manager
      Manager 22 November 2012 09: 32
      0
      Quote: Lazer
      Where did they get 70 million? The population of all of Central Asia (part of the USSR) is less than this figure.


      Did you conduct a census there?
      I may surprise you, but an unknown number of inhabitants live there. Moreover, much more and 100 million. (Given that 70 million still lives here)
      1. otstavnik
        otstavnik 22 November 2012 11: 02
        +2
        About 250 Uzbeks are officially officially living in Primorye! This is only official. All of them are not in villages and cities of the region, but in the regional center! I think that comments are superfluous! What will happen next? The question is open!
      2. Shuhrat turani
        Shuhrat turani 22 November 2012 12: 08
        -2
        Quote: Manager
        Did you conduct a census there?
        I may surprise you, but an unknown number of inhabitants live there. Moreover, much more and 100 million. (Given that 70 million still lives here)


        Drink less, drink less .... All population Av. Asia about 60-65mln ... Do not try to import the Chinese
    3. Mairos
      Mairos 22 November 2012 19: 12
      0
      You forgot about the far abroad countries - China, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Africa, etc.
  15. Manager
    Manager 22 November 2012 09: 30
    0
    What is a bicycle to invent? In Canada, for example, such a system has been established for more than 10 years.
  16. George
    George 22 November 2012 09: 32
    +4
    In particular, not so long ago, a deputy of the State Duma spoke about the need to attract high-class specialists from other states to Russia
    representing "United Russia", Gadzhemet Safaraliev.
    He is apparently trying to pull his own. The quality is in action. And as for our citizens who can be returned from abroad, I’ll say that it’s easier for the Gastars to provide a bowl of noodles and a mat for sleeping than their own citizens with an apartment, etc.
  17. predator.3
    predator.3 22 November 2012 09: 34
    +6
    As already got these black ... s! Well, I don’t want to see them in my city, let them build developed capitalism in me, but somehow we will live without them! Yes, we forgot how in the 90s they drove Russians and others out of their republics! stop fool
    1. denisey
      denisey 22 November 2012 10: 43
      +2
      I agree! He spoke personally with Russians who migrated from Uzbekistan. They told how they were escorted with knives at the throat !!!
      1. Shuhrat turani
        Shuhrat turani 22 November 2012 12: 13
        -8
        Quote: denisey
        I agree! He spoke personally with Russians who migrated from Uzbekistan. They told how they were escorted with knives at the throat !!!


        either you are you or those who said, PI .. ,,, BOLS !!!!! You just like to feel poor, offended, persecuted everywhere .... Something like a national complex ... To justify your xenophobia ... I will not say for Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, but there is no nationalism in Uzbekistan ...
        1. Blackscorp
          Blackscorp 22 November 2012 13: 38
          +4
          Quote: Shuhrat Turani
          I can’t say for Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, but there is no nationalism in Uzbekistan ...

          And how many non-Uzbeks do you have in government? Or is it like this: we do not have nationalism, but all who are not Uzbeks are nothing of themselves?
        2. nic
          nic 22 November 2012 14: 15
          +3
          So why are you going to Russia in millions? Who called you here? Live at home, build a bright future. Do not swear here with whole villages.
          1. Shuhrat turani
            Shuhrat turani 22 November 2012 23: 59
            -2
            Quote: nic
            So why are you going to Russia in millions? Who called you here? Live at home, build a bright future. Do not swear here with whole villages.


            overpopulation ... Remember physics? The transfer of energy from the region of high potentials to the region of low potentials ... These are natural processes - the earth should not be empty. you can resist it ... but better to make up ..
            1. green
              green 24 November 2012 23: 35
              0
              What is the transfer of energy? What are the potentials? What kind of nonsense ... You just can’t do anything yourself without Russia and without Russians just say so ... but you don’t have to carry a blizzard ... Even in the Union, substantial sums were transferred each year from the budget of the Russian Federation to the budgets of the Central Asian republics as aid .e even then they were dating and the specialists were mostly Russian. The union broke up the subsidies ceased, the specialists left and that's it ..... and now you're all ..... tell us about the transfer of energy from high potential ... .....
        3. denisey
          denisey 22 November 2012 20: 02
          +2
          nobody called you to Russia, pick cotton and graze sheep at home !!
          1. imguskov
            imguskov 23 November 2012 02: 31
            0
            Migrants, or as you call us compatriots who have an education and a head on their shoulders, will not go to Russia for several reasons:
            - a country that is too corrupt, corruption infiltrates all levels of power, without exception, from the farm foreman to the president’s inner circle. Although the president has taken several steps to suppress corruption, this is only to create the appearance of a small part of the surface iceberg. We living in the CIS do not believe in the sincerity of the presidential steps to eradicate the bureaucratic demon.
            - we know how the population of Russia perceived the move of fellow citizens from neighboring countries to Russia in the early 90s, when people who worked for 30 years, saved up money, built houses and moved families, and these were Russian people who stayed on the street where mother gave birth only due to the fact that it seemed to someone that they were bai and they needed to be burned.
            - some families went to Taganrog, built houses, and come to work in the Asian republics for the summer, the same picture in the Altai Territory.
            - The recent elections to the State Duma and the president have shown that not everything is in order with the electoral system in Russia and far from elected people come to power.
            Russian people are not afraid of difficulties and people understand the problems experienced by Russia, as well as Russian families living abroad want their children to study the history of Russia and their native Russian language, therefore many want to return to their historical Motherland and could benefit Russia with knowledge in their luggage, experience, education, but to return to Russia to give the rest of their lives to fight bureaucracy protecting themselves, their property, savings and profits ?? As the famous character from the movie Diamond Arm said it’s better you are to us, engineering professions are needed everywhere, not only in Russia, there are no problems with work, the feeling of the homeland disappeared with the advent of Gorbachev, there are no prerequisites for returning to your historical homeland! Now the president of Russia and the government are trying to raise the spirit of the people and unite the people into a single family - you gentlemen are late for exactly 27 years, and to be even more precise it was not necessary to drop this spirit and not ruin the people's family. In Soviet times, any citizen of the USSR felt in any republic in his homeland, today this feeling is not limited by stability, primarily the political component, but then with all the ensuing consequences.
            All the best to I. Guskov.
  18. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 22 November 2012 09: 45
    +3
    "Opinions began to be expressed on how to make sure that illiterate foreign citizens who do not even know the basics of the Russian language suddenly stopped going to Russia, and only highly qualified specialists with serious work experience and a decent level of education began to arrive. ..."

    What kind of hangover can there be a “thought!” That 70 million “exceptionally highly qualified specialists” will come to us? They are there, and in such numbers? It seems that this can only arise among those who wish to please their “fellow tribesmen” from now independent states. In Russia, the level of education has reached the point that thanks to the "scientists" from the academies it is already possible to write in the "great and mighty" - parashut. Ancestors created the language, and soon we will only express ourselves with gestures (and it is easier for immigrants). Russia without a well-thought-out policy is the way to interethnic conflicts. Already now, the number of fascists in our country is growing (and this is in a country that has suffered like no one else from fascism.) So there is a basis for this. I think immigration should be under strict control.
    1. in reserve
      in reserve 22 November 2012 12: 01
      +1

      Was Mammoth RU
      The number of fascists in our country is already growing

      Well, as they say, the reaction of the body to the disease. Only state leaders can help us with this disease, but they don’t want, they can’t, they don’t know maybe.
      And at the expense of the language, you just noticed, and what kind of academician prescribed a parachute "parachute"?
      1. nic
        nic 22 November 2012 14: 42
        0
        Like a simplification, both norms were introduced. "The spouses" from the same series.
      2. Was mammoth
        Was mammoth 22 November 2012 20: 28
        0
        Quote: in stock
        And at the expense of the language, you just noticed, and what kind of academician prescribed a parachute "parachute"?


        The Academy of Sciences has prescribed. She has already "written" a lot in the rules. For example, you can even wrap one letter on a new line.
      3. green
        green 24 November 2012 23: 06
        0
        Yes, the heads of state do not know of course .. they live in a parallel world with us
  19. click80
    click80 22 November 2012 09: 52
    0
    I think it is necessary to make sure that every foreign emigrant entering Russia
    1) I knew the Russian language, and let our traditions learn all this at home. After arrival, take exams. if you don’t pass, then immediately back. let him learn further. the amount of paragraph 2 is not refundable
    2) Let them pay medical insurance at their own expense, and pay an amount equal to the cost of the flight to their country
    3) the period of stay in Russia is a maximum of 3 years,
    4) after arriving in Russia, one month later, submit to the Federal Migration Service a copy of the contract (employment contract), otherwise, return to your village with the first plane
    1. Igarr
      Igarr 22 November 2012 10: 45
      -1
      Damn it ... aul ... in which planes fly.
      ...
      And on the topic .. so for that they are talking about migrants, that they are not going to take care of them.
      And about us, autochthons - have long been forgotten.
      ...
      Lord, what kind of government.
    2. Leisure
      Leisure 22 November 2012 10: 48
      +4
      I think you yourself know how the rules are followed in our country. I am for a moratorium on entry.
      1. baltika-18
        baltika-18 22 November 2012 13: 27
        +2
        Quote: Lazer
        I think you yourself know how the rules are followed in our country. I am for a moratorium on entry.

        Me too, but for tougher measures: 1-moratorium, 2 — collect and throw out, 3 — begin to strengthen the borders, so that not a single bastard would crawl through. And only after that look who we needed and why.
  20. avreli
    avreli 22 November 2012 10: 06
    -3
    Qatar
    The population is ~ 1,9 million people,
    men - 1,4 million, women - 0,5 million what

    Qatari are considered to be persons who have lived in the country since 1930, as well as their descendants. Qatari make up about 41% of the total population of the country ~ 0,78 million.

    That is, for one Qatar, there are two Qatar. wink
    And more than a million - attendants.
    They do not allow service personnel to pamper.

    GDP per capita - $ 93

    Give the "catharizia" of Russia !!! good
    1. Leisure
      Leisure 22 November 2012 10: 44
      0
      Service staff, can take a rake, if that.
      1. avreli
        avreli 22 November 2012 22: 37
        0
        In the afternoon there was no time to draw up the answer to your valuable remark, dear Lazer.
        But I will not leave him unattended.

        Something doesn’t seem like a “maybe.”
        Qatar’s army ~ 12000, there is still some armed police (armored personnel carriers, helicopters ...) ~ 8000.
        In terms of the Russian scale (in relation to the number of citizens), it is as if our army had more than 2 million and another million and a half internal troops.
        In addition, alien tsunarefs (and not tsunarefs, by the way) value their jobs, which is not surprising with such incomes.
        If you believe the media, the Qatar special forces were noted in almost all countries of the "Arab spring". Al-Jazeera's media influence, I believe, is also known.
        There are also US bases. Although friendship with the Yankees is positioned as insurance for a country located between Iran and Saudi Arabia, it’s also a habit, probably, only in the early 70s to leave the British protectorate. smile
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 22 November 2012 11: 08
      +1
      Quote: avreli
      Give the "catharizia" of Russia !!!

      Well, then go to Qatar, and one wife will be enough for me and I’ll work myself, without attendants.
      1. avreli
        avreli 22 November 2012 13: 09
        +1
        And when you manage to work, with seven thousand comments in six months. smile
        Or is it such a job. wink
        1. old rocket man
          old rocket man 23 November 2012 18: 51
          0
          Quote: avreli
          And when you manage to work, with seven thousand comments for six months

          And you read his comments, more than half are interjections, and the other half6 HELLO MASHA, HELLO SASHA laughing
    3. avreli
      avreli 22 November 2012 22: 47
      +1
      And what are the cons so dumb? smile
      One gets the impression that the idea of ​​importing labor force, putting it in a tight framework (complete control, the slightest violation - in the zugunder and on the way out), is not like it.
      That is, they have been feeding foreigners for 70 years, and now they shut themselves up and plow themselves, instead of squeezing the favor from them?
      Well, you give!
  21. Igor
    Igor 22 November 2012 10: 08
    +4
    It’s very hard to see with a rating of edra and their leader, they decided to bring tens of millions of lochtorat.

    PS: Now I understand for whom Pui decided to fuck 25 million high-tech jobs))))
    1. BorisBM
      BorisBM 9 January 2013 18: 44
      0
      Maybe they decided to dig a new channel from Moscow to Vladivostok. So ... to the very outskirts. And then the GDP will float on it in a new boat.
  22. old rocket man
    old rocket man 22 November 2012 10: 11
    +14
    We need not immigrants, but repatriates.
    The goal is to return the Russians to their homeland,
    the slogan Russians should live in Russia.
    It isn’t easy to live, but to live is good, and the government is obliged to provide assistance and provide benefits when relocating to the indigenous nationalities of Ukrainians, Russians and Belarusians
    1. Kail_seven
      Kail_seven 22 November 2012 12: 24
      +3
      +100500 And it is desirable that our people return with lands.
  23. Samovar
    Samovar 22 November 2012 10: 34
    0
    To do this, it will be necessary to detach not just huge funds from the state budget, but astronomical funds.


    28. The first stage (2012 - 2015):

    a) the development and adoption of regulatory legal acts of the Russian Federation, ensuring the implementation of the goals, objectives and main directions of the state migration policy of the Russian Federation;

    b) the development and testing of programs in the framework of the implementation of the main directions of the state migration policy of the Russian Federation;

    c) the establishment of centers for the promotion of immigration to the Russian Federation and medical examination of immigrants, including abroad;

    d) the creation of infrastructure for the residence of labor migrants through public-private partnerships;

    e) the creation of infrastructure for the integration and adaptation of labor migrants, including information and legal support centers, language, history and culture courses of the Russian Federation;


    (e) Conducting sample studies involving issues of domestic and international migration.

    29. The second stage (2016 - 2020):

    a) the adoption of programs in the framework of the implementation of the main directions of the state migration policy of the Russian Federation;

    b) implementation and monitoring of adopted programs in the framework of the implementation of the main directions of the state migration policy of the Russian Federation;

    c) a synthesis and analysis of the law enforcement practice of the adopted normative legal acts of the Russian Federation, ensuring the implementation of the goals, objectives and main directions of the state migration policy of the Russian Federation;

    d) the expansion of the use of information technology to analyze the migration situation and ensure the state migration policy of the Russian Federation, including the refinement of the program of statistical and analytical work in the field of internal and international migration.

    30. As a result of the implementation of the second stage, it is planned to suspend the migration outflow of the population from the regions of Siberia and the Far East by 2021.

    31. The third stage (2021 - 2025):

    a) assessment of the effectiveness of the adopted programs in the framework of the implementation of the main directions of the state migration policy of the Russian Federation;

    b) clarification of the main strategic guidelines, priorities and main directions of the implementation of the state migration policy of the Russian Federation and the adjustment of relevant programs.

    32. According to the results of the implementation of the third stage, it is supposed to ensure a migration flow of the population to the regions of Siberia and the Far East by 2026.

    This is from the concept of state migration policy. So the new millions of migrants - this is unfortunately already quite real.
  24. alebor
    alebor 22 November 2012 10: 41
    +6
    It's amazing! We observe how the country is being populated by millions of migrants before our very eyes, we do not like it and, most importantly, we cannot do anything about it! Someone decides the fate of our country, our people behind our back, without asking us! The authorities, headed by the president, seem to tell us: "your business is veal" ...
    I consider Japan as an example of competent migration policy. It is legislatively established there that the salary of low-skilled migrants of non-Japanese origin should be higher than that of the Japanese themselves. As a result, it is economically unprofitable for entrepreneurs to hire migrant workers and, accordingly, there are almost none. But at the same time, the country willingly accepts Japanese migrants and highly qualified foreign specialists.
    1. Middle-brother
      Middle-brother 22 November 2012 10: 55
      +1
      Quote: alebor
      Someone decides the fate of our country, our people behind us, without asking us!

      Why is someone Everyone's name is well-known, and many voted for him
      1. Maks111
        Maks111 22 November 2012 18: 45
        +2
        And this name before the election promised to solve the problem with migrants.
    2. Normal
      Normal 22 November 2012 11: 59
      +6
      Quote: alebor
      The authorities, headed by the president, seem to tell us: "your business is veal" ...

      The authorities say not "as if", but quite specifically: "We won - shut up." The phrase belongs to Surkov, a longtime "ideologist" and creative powerhouse.
      Well, what did we answer to this? What did we do when in the national regions of the regions voted for the GDP almost unanimously (in contrast to the "Russian" regions where for the GDP with all the postscripts and falsifications the usual, standard percentage) Absolutely NOTHING! Well, Moscow started a little bit, so the Protestants were mixed with him for this, and especially on this site.
      So we have what we deserve. Now, the gadjimets are safaraliev and will tell us how to live, and our calf’s business - eat and wait when they slaughter.
      1. imguskov
        imguskov 23 November 2012 02: 39
        +1
        And when you were called observers of election commissions, where were you ?? Hoping for a neighbor ?? Now live and admire how an oligarch instead of you hires a migrant for a penny, because it is beneficial for him to pay less.
        1. Normal
          Normal 23 November 2012 21: 57
          +1
          Who, whom and where did you call how do you know? Did the media tell you? Tell you how things are going? At the polling station, observers remain until they demand something. As soon as the observer opens his mouth, he immediately leaves the site with the help of the police and combatants from the party in power. Observers are only for this purpose necessary to give the appearance of legitimacy to any falsifications by their presence. Moreover, the final protocol can always be redone already in the absence of any observers.
          And doesn’t it seem to you that under the flag of another country it is worthless to meddle in Russian affairs, let alone indicate how we, the citizens of Russia, should act?
          1. imguskov
            imguskov 24 November 2012 01: 11
            +1
            And whose flag sent me and my ancestors to the republics? Is it Chinese? The argument is meaningless, you should not play on thin strings, they are already tense.
            As for the elections, it is necessary to create national squads from opposition parties that will be present at each polling station, in addition to mobilize the people in support groups for observers. Leaving observers alone with the police means losing the election. United Russia is ahead of the curve - it is already creating squads of Cossacks loyal to it, the remaining parties are late.
            The authorities have already discredited themselves (Serdyukov did not know that his subordinates were stealing, Putin did not know that Serdyukov was stealing) she only needs to help leave these power posts and give this power to those who are worthy, and there are many of them!
            1. Normal
              Normal 24 November 2012 10: 31
              0
              Quote: imguskov
              The argument is meaningless, you should not play on thin strings, they are already tense.

              I agree. I guess I didn’t understand you correctly, but you also understand me: I’m already tired of fighting off advisers who from afar indicate what I should (or should not) do in the center.
              Yes, you need to organize, but you should not flatter yourself. The authorities will always be ahead of the opposition already in that everything is in the hands of this government, from money to the media, from power structures to supporting an inert, fearful of change, population.
    3. NICHUCHKA
      NICHUCHKA 22 November 2012 12: 14
      +1
      And our business is veal ..... Until the Russians and are friendly to the Russians - the Russians do not understand that the owners in this country are they, not the thieving Kremlin gang .....
  25. max111
    max111 22 November 2012 11: 09
    +2
    After Gadzhimet Safaraliev voiced such thoughts, he should have been immediately removed from solving national issues. Its decision principle is understandable, it must be heard and taken under control. The problem of the national question is that any politician who begins to solve it for the good of Russia, and not the economy of individual citizens and states, is essentially a political corpse and the whole world will bury it. It is a pity that the president shows a fair amount of cowardice in this matter, does not plan to end his political career, but someone else should start to do this, except for Gadzhet
  26. Zorber
    Zorber 22 November 2012 11: 39
    +1
    Question to those who are against emigrants: What about the Russians who are outside of Russia? I was born in Moldova ... and I really would like to move to Russia, because here they consider me a stranger, an occupier, and so on. But what do I see? There, in Russia, they also consider me a stranger.
    And the second question ... how to legally differentiate Russian Moldovans from non-Russian Uzbeks? If born in identical conditions: on the territory of the sunken USSR.
    1. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 22 November 2012 12: 15
      +2
      Quote: Zorber
      What about the Russians who ended up outside of Russia?

      Yes, get ready and come, collect only all the documents of your parents, where you were born, etc. If you know how to do something well, you will still get a job and find an apartment, more than 50% of local youth live like this, because the main problem is housing. Well, apply to the consulate to acquire citizenship. The main thing is to do something, because the "Jamshuds" come and live. It will be difficult of course, but still, you will change something in life. If with a family, then it is even more difficult, then first on the exploration and, according to the situation. If you know agriculture, then come to the Kuban, in the village you can rent a house from the land for an inexpensive, if not entirely for looking after the estate. Our land is fertile, but difficult, that is, it is necessary to work a lot in order to earn and live on it, but if you do not thump then you can.
    2. FunkschNNX
      FunkschNNX 22 November 2012 12: 29
      0
      that’s the trouble, our government cannot make separate laws for Russians. Although I think: why not? You can clearly spell out that a simplified version for Russians, Tatars and other peoples of Russia, and not for obscure people who don’t speak Russian, they don’t know how to write in their own language. However, our tolerasts and liberalists will immediately start to complain about discrimination and that this is not our way at all.
  27. I. Brovkin
    I. Brovkin 22 November 2012 12: 11
    0
    And the second question ... how to legally differentiate Russian Moldovans from non-Russian Uzbeks? If born in identical conditions: on the territory of the sunken USSR.

    Well, I don’t know, maybe according to the column, nationality is in the Soviet passport.
    P.S. Although passports can be faked.
    1. Zorber
      Zorber 22 November 2012 12: 16
      0
      There is no such column in our passports. This time. (There is a whole generation born before the collapse, but already with Moldovan passports)
      Well, secondly, can you imagine what the consequences of such a step might be? At the moment, in conditions of universal multiculturalization, there are a huge number of organizations that do not feed bread, let me speak out against the national policy of this or that state.
      In fact, this problem is very delicate. It will definitely be very difficult to solve it. One way or another, it’s unlikely to please everyone.
  28. Mr. Truth
    Mr. Truth 22 November 2012 12: 24
    +2
    So much for 154 million people by 2050.
    By 2050, 85 million Russians remain in Russia, plus 70 million imported assimilating occupiers, and that’s all, the end of glorious history.
    I’m wondering where they will get 70 million migrants, if around 60 million in the whole of Central Asia?
  29. dojjdik
    dojjdik 22 November 2012 12: 37
    -3
    again nationalistic articles; and what then the author does not fall under 238? puzhat may suffice us "niggers"; if there are illegal loopholes, they will come to us; But the interesting thing is the Jews - who, unlike the Tajiks or the Uzbeks there, do not work as janitors, but simply quietly buy up our state property in Moscow, whether it is possible to call them "illegal migrants" not immediately under the article;
    1. Volodin
      22 November 2012 12: 52
      0
      Ivan, name at least one reason why the author falls under the 238th article "Production, storage, transportation or sale of goods and products, performance of work or provision of services that do not meet safety requirements" ??? You took the article number from the ceiling? And in more detail about the nationalist theme - quotes about differentiation, oppression of the peoples of Russia and so on. I'm waiting ... In general, be careful with legal terminology.
  30. andrey-tse
    andrey-tse 22 November 2012 13: 07
    +1
    It is necessary to rely on the internal reserve, migrants should not be 3-5%. They must be forced to work, and effective production must be introduced. You need to buy a mini excavator and not invite a team from the southern friendly republics.
    1. urzul
      urzul 22 November 2012 13: 28
      0
      It is necessary to rely on the internal reserve, migrants should not be 3-5%.
      I understand that single-handedly raise the demography in the country?
      1. nic
        nic 22 November 2012 16: 01
        0
        Of course not, 70 million. immigrants will save this one.
  31. Navy7981
    Navy7981 22 November 2012 13: 11
    0
    As long as someone, on this "shears the loot" and from our side (interests from that side are not taken into account, although they are), there will be no changes in the emigration policy. If the income opportunity disappears, emigration will disappear.
  32. dojjdik
    dojjdik 22 November 2012 13: 13
    0
    you tell it to the one who scares me with this very article 238, it's funny of course, but they scared me for "inciting national enmity and not from the ceiling, I took it from this site, do not throw such articles - they confront people of different nationalities and provoke no one necessary and stupid confrontation
    1. Volodin
      22 November 2012 13: 37
      +2
      Sorry, but why you are not making the same claims to the author of the idea itself (that is, the deputy of the State Duma). And then we only get journalists who voice the statements of state officials, incite national enmity, but the state officials themselves are generally white and fluffy ... That is, in your opinion, the legislator has spoken, and everyone should be silently silent in a rag, as if nothing came out. Your position is strange.
    2. Mairos
      Mairos 22 November 2012 19: 28
      0
      It’s not necessary to kindle. But if the problem is hushed up and nothing is done, then radical actions will arise from both sides. The ostrich’s position is not the best. What does not want to rake power in a civilized manner will pour into blood and riots from below.
  33. Navy7981
    Navy7981 22 November 2012 13: 27
    0
    By the way, it’s worth figuring out, but who really benefits from it? Can our collective mind find the answer?
    1. green
      green 24 November 2012 22: 42
      0
      And what is there to think, so it is clear to anyone - big business, first of all, and they are putting pressure on the government to soften the migration policy. It is they who create demand - and if there is demand, you yourself know what .... and no matter how harsh laws are accepted .... while there is demand, nothing will help .. they went and will go.
  34. IlyaKuv
    IlyaKuv 22 November 2012 13: 36
    +1
    It’s not necessary to look for gratuitous labor, but to attract your specialists.Everyone should suffer in the pursuit of the selfish selfish goals of one entrepreneur. Well, these newcomers would work quietly, so they still begin to restore their order, behave like hosts, respecting the locals. And we are still being told about tolerance.
  35. Brother Sarych
    Brother Sarych 22 November 2012 13: 59
    -1
    Who else would tell me where that deputy plans to take 70 million visitors! In China? And there are hardly any ...
    Do not think that Central Asia is able to give many more emigrants - of course, there is still potential, but already quite limited ...
    some areas really emptied after the departure of the able-bodied male population ...
    1. green
      green 24 November 2012 22: 55
      -1
      In China, there are no? There are more unemployed than the entire population of the Russian Federation. Take a trip to the Far East or Transbaikalia, almost all the Chinese are already building there (and by the way, they also cut the forest).
  36. bubla5
    bubla5 22 November 2012 14: 06
    0
    You just need to introduce tax breaks and other benefits for those who work with the local population, and then they will pay their salaries, and there will not be many migrants, but so far in deputies such as the above listed citizen it is unlikely to change
  37. spirit
    spirit 22 November 2012 14: 17
    +1
    ha ha ha !!!! Skolkovo guys are building Some little chureks who are not a whore in Russian !!!! GOSS Construction !!! kickbacks for a row are colossal !!!!! this is part of the system !!! and you think they will work there with such kickbacks super pro !!!! then there will be no fat !!! maximum money! minimum costs !!!! greed gentlemen! greed !!! Valodya will tell you something like that !!!
  38. nic
    nic 22 November 2012 14: 40
    +2
    "80% of murders in Moscow are committed by foreigners." And this is still a small percentage of Gaster. Will deliver 70 million. there will be a massacre all over the country.
    1. thatupac
      thatupac 22 November 2012 20: 46
      -1
      Where do these numbers come from? Are they taken from my head? Vinogradov negodue !!!
  39. dmb
    dmb 22 November 2012 16: 13
    0
    I think that parliamentarian Safaraliev was attacked prematurely. Judging by the link in Volodin's article, information about his speeches (Safaraliev) was obtained from Regnum., Which gives excerpts about the interview itself. Judging by them, then it is definitely possible to throw stones at the deputy, because it does not lead to any argumentation to his reasoning. It would be interesting to get acquainted with it, if it exists. If she is not there, then in spite of his regalia and merits, he is "Nikita Pustosvyat", who decided to attract the attention of the media, and is not pursuing any more goals.
  40. Gorchakov
    Gorchakov 22 November 2012 16: 51
    +2
    If you send 70 million migrants to Siberia, then within five to ten years, this region will declare its sovereignty and separation from Russia ... Even if half of the migrants, albeit Russians, but former dissidents and processed by Western special services, join in the elections to the leaders of the Bolotnaya Square. then the case of Marked and Yeltsin will have a very serious continuation and moreover in a constitutional way ... I think that this idea comes from Medvedev and his adherents ... He really does not want the return of the patriotic future of Russia, because then it will be multiplied by zero .. .Here they are "strangling" the Russian people as a nation, trying to replace the voices of the Russian electorate, with the votes of the "gussky" people who left their homeland in their time in search of a better life .... ..I think that this initiative in the future may and will have the right to life, but with full stability in the country, the implementation of which was put into the hands of Putin ... In the meantime, I think, it is better to forget about such a massive resettlement ... Otherwise If the West will again clap their hands for joy ...
  41. Uncle
    Uncle 22 November 2012 17: 34
    +3
    There is a violent Islamization of Russia, but this cannot happen, either Holy Russia or nothing. Russia is the inheritance, that is, the land, of the Mother of God, the patroness of Russia. There is no Islamic Russia, only Orthodox. However, this will not come easily, it’s necessary to fight, as with the Teutons, who brought us the Catholic faith, as with the Tatars, Poles. As the Lord said to David, I will triumph, but you must fight. I believe in the bright future of Russia!
    1. thatupac
      thatupac 22 November 2012 20: 46
      0
      So breed like the Chinese or Indians - and everything will be all right. So no ... we are dying out.
  42. romb
    romb 22 November 2012 18: 19
    +1
    The author described a rather gloomy script. In turn, it seems to me somewhat controversial statement about 70 million. migrants. Still, this figure is not just big, but huge to disgrace. After all, then the estimated number of migrants will exceed the population of all of Central Asia or Ukraine from Belarus combined. Taking into account that the vast majority of those CIS citizens who wanted or could work in Russia, have been doing this for a long time. Consequently, it is highly likely that the number of migrants will increase precisely at the expense of the Chinese, and this in any case will negatively affect the foundations of the Russian state in the medium or long term.
  43. djon3volta
    djon3volta 22 November 2012 19: 37
    -2
    According to statistics provided by experts, in the first six months of this year alone, individuals transferred approximately $ 7,7 billion to the CIS countries, most of which “flowed” to Tajikistan and Uzbekistan.
    The lion's share of transfers falls to non-CIS countries - $ 13,4 billion. For example, $ 1,3 billion was sent to Switzerland from Russia over the above period, and $ 1,2 billion to the United States ...
    Moreover, experts are not at all surprised at this state of affairs and predict an increase in capital outflow due to the consent of migrants to work always, albeit for small salaries.

    Russians, when will you start to work and not whine on the internet like a small salary ??? Russians, tell me why in poor Iraq or Afghanistan their women give birth to 3-5 children and do not whine that they do not want to produce poverty ???
    1. thatupac
      thatupac 22 November 2012 20: 45
      0
      Yes, because whining and screaming that this is all Khutin Pui with ПЖиВ is much easier to blame than admitting that they themselves are not wealthy in life. The Russians don’t want to work in non-prestigious jobs, such as a bad job, you know, they don’t want to serve in the Army either. And when you replace the Russians with Gesters, the howl is immediately raised about the betrayal of the Motherland. Some strange ...
      1. George
        George 22 November 2012 21: 20
        +1
        Nothing strange. How do you think to make the government pay a decent salary? Just like that, the authorities have a choice: either pay as much as necessary, or take visitors from grazing and pay the crumbs. They choose - they hire hard workers, do not answer for anything, and write in the statements a statement as if their house Rastrelli sculpted is not otherwise.
        And it’s generally a question of visitors with a higher specialized education (only to go to a classy specialist somewhere), i.e. ready-to-work specialists. You might think that with the collapse of the USSR there were a lot of specialists left.
        1. thatupac
          thatupac 22 November 2012 22: 24
          0
          We have capitalism right now. Everyone lives by the principle - you need to earn as much dough as possible and save. So there is nothing to be surprised.
          1. green
            green 24 November 2012 22: 10
            0
            That’s the whole point that it’s beneficial 1.Business (primarily large) because: a) it allows to significantly reduce salary costs b) allows you to easily manipulate staff without looking at the Labor Code, etc. .. (you understand that gastar They won’t go to court, they won’t organize strikes and they don’t have a trade union) And therefore, RSPP representatives constantly whine at joint meetings of the government and business representatives that they simply have a catastrophic shortage of labor, and the Russians don’t want to work, etc., etc. 2. The Government _ because there is nothing to be done a) there is no need to restore the vocational school network b) there is no need to promote workers' professions - that is, in that the Soviet Union invested billions, you don’t need to do anything at all, and you can get millions of silent slaves ( and this is exactly what our oligarchs need and here their interests coincide), simply opening the borders. This is generally the main principle of our government, I think, how to do everything, but whatever ... I do not. In short, everything suits, and all these screams about the tightening of migration policy, etc. are so formalities for averting eyes.
  44. tan0472
    tan0472 22 November 2012 19: 42
    +1
    how to make illiterate foreign citizens suddenly stop going to Russia
    1) Give labor visas only to those who need it (by quota)
    2) Violation of the migration law receives 1 year of correctional labor (builds roads for food)
  45. Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 22 November 2012 21: 27
    +1
    Khan of Russia ... What Hitler did not do (physical extermination of the Slavs) will be done by migrants.
    God save Russia !!!
  46. builder74
    builder74 22 November 2012 21: 50
    0
    70 million migrants ... You have to be brainless to offer this! There was once an article "sabotage" - that's it!
  47. builder74
    builder74 22 November 2012 22: 19
    0
    Of course, there is a question with labor resources, but it cannot be solved by importing labor without thinking about the consequences! Well, there are already examples of France, Belgium, Germany, etc.-a little ?! Finally, we must admit the importance of maintaining the proportions of nat. composition of Russia to preserve the country. Proceeding from this, and act. For example, differentiate support for fertility by region, also with affordable housing, etc. Including openly and clearly formulating that we want to return Russians, representatives of other peoples of Russia to Russia, we will be glad to Ukrainians and Belarusians. Under this, we will prescribe a clear program for providing people with mate. part, and a simple procedure for obtaining citizenship. The rest - sorry: learn the language, history, culture, pass the exams and then, perhaps, get something like a "probationary period" (10 years), with the right to live and work exclusively in the region this is a "temporary citizenship" to provide. Moreover, in no case can you grant citizenship by birth on the territory of the Russian Federation!
    And migrants can certainly be attracted, but only at the request of specific firms (without the right to work in other organizations), with the real responsibility of firms for the removal of workers to their homelands, for renting people (there is such a business with firms apparently close to the FMS), for providing accommodation for workers in special. hotels without the right to leave the territory, etc. And it’s illegal for them to build a second branch of BAM until they work out food, clothing, a camp guard salary and the price of a plane ticket. Moreover, it is necessary to legally recognize the priority of the three traditional Russian religions, and to attract migrants to regions with the dominant respective religion (if they are needed there at all) !
  48. Edouard
    Edouard 22 November 2012 22: 50
    0
    I appeal to all the patriots, nationalists and Orthodox people of our country. In any case, judging by the comments here, almost everyone in one way or another refers to these concepts. My opinion is that it would be really possible to get out of the demographic crisis, and then all the rest, Russia, or rather all of its Russian ethnic group, it is necessary to fulfill only one single commandment (but only practically) that God left for us immediately after creating man on earth. He (God) in particular said in Genesis in the first chapter:
    27 And God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
    28 And God blessed them, and God said to them: Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and possess it, and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air, and over every animal that creeps on the earth.

    And then, if people really love God and, as a result, sincerely wish to please Him, if they love their Motherland and their people, then without hesitation they will multiply and multiply, they will give birth to children as much as God sends them no matter what difficulties. Because further in His Word God vowed not to abandon his children, but to give them food and all the conditions for a normal existence. Is it another matter whether we who call ourselves Christians believe God and His Word?The question is ambiguous, but Jesus wants us to answer it right now.
  49. Edouard
    Edouard 22 November 2012 23: 05
    +1
    someone in previous comments expressed doubt that in order to solve the problem of childbirth in the shortest possible time, a Russian girl would have to give birth to 5-7 children and that she wouldn’t naturally do this. It is quite reasonable that she is in the state in which our Russian girl is now, she will never do this. But the girl needs to be educated. But how can she be educated when we ourselves are ill-educated. To do this, you just need to start looking for the truth, and it’s very close to me, in the Bible. For 38 years he lived as an egoist and plus without God. As a result, a dysfunctional first marriage (thank God did not leave children to dependency) and a meaningless life. But when I believed in God practically (Father-Son-Holy Spirit), I began to read the Bible and practically fulfill it the canons, everything worked out right away. I’ve been married for 4 years, I have two children, the third is on the way and there is a bright future ahead of God. We will have a great family and I will raise my children in love for God and my neighbors.
    1. Focuser
      Focuser 22 November 2012 23: 25
      0
      why do you have the flag of Germany and not Russia?
      1. Edouard
        Edouard 22 November 2012 23: 41
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        and at the time of my chaotic life, I went to a distant country, Europe. Since then I have been living here. But my homeland will always remain Russia. By the way, this is also God's providence.
  50. Goodmen
    Goodmen 22 November 2012 23: 13
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    I can agree: ".... There is a profession, brother, give your life for Russia ..." But we need not die, but win ... bleat !!!!!