Germany called for the creation of a contact group of leading Western countries for a peaceful settlement of the conflict in Ukraine

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Germany called for the creation of a contact group of leading Western countries for a peaceful settlement of the conflict in Ukraine

In Europe, calls for a peaceful settlement of the conflict in Ukraine are becoming louder, but no demands have been made for Ukraine to start immediate negotiations with Russia. Still at the proposal level.

In Germany, they propose to create a kind of "contact group" that could deal with the issue of a peaceful settlement in Ukraine. This proposal was made by the former head of the Munich Conference, Wolfgang Ischinger. According to him, it is necessary to launch a peace process, and several countries belonging to this community could do this. As the main ones, he proposes the USA, Great Britain, Germany and France, which should form the "core", and the rest of the participants can be recruited later.



The task of this group is to mediate in the negotiations between Ukraine and Russia, as well as in the conclusion of a peace treaty. In fact, Ischinger proposes not to leave Kyiv unsupervised and to negotiate only in the presence of Western advisers, who should keep Zelensky from rash steps, but in reality to protect his interests or bargain for something.

At the same time, it is emphasized that it is not necessary to demand immediate negotiations from Ukraine, this is tantamount to capitulation of Kyiv.

Earlier, the leadership of some EU countries, in particular Germany and France, declared the inadmissibility of interference in potential negotiations between Ukraine and Russia. The same Scholz emphasized that Kyiv should independently decide what the peace treaty would be like and how to end the conflict. Zelensky should act as an independent figure in the negotiations, and not a Western puppet.

At the same time, neither the United States nor Europe agree to peace talks on Russia’s terms, therefore they are in favor of continuing hostilities, hoping that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will defeat the Russian army and thereby provide Ukraine, and hence the West, with the opportunity to dictate their terms to Moscow .
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  1. +10
    13 March 2023 07: 55
    The "peaceful" resolution of the conflict for them is our defeat. It is clear what kind of "peace" there will be
    1. +6
      13 March 2023 08: 05
      There is no peaceful resolution of this conflict through negotiations, from the word at all. The liberation of the territory of present-day Ukraine from the filth of nationalism is half the battle, if you leave at least one area, it will be a hotbed of infection and an ongoing threat. The best solution I see is the creation of three zones of Novorossia along the line of Kyiv, Little Russia and the outskirts of the western regions of the Rusyns, Transcarpathia. Moreover, the entire Black Sea region with Odessa, Nikolaev and Ochakov are part of Russia. But apparently it will be decided only on the battlefield. The leaders of the West cannot be trusted, the areas left under their protectorate will soon become part of NATO, have already passed on the experience of Eastern Europe. Russia is obliged itself!!! ensure your safety.
      1. +5
        13 March 2023 08: 15
        That would be very good. The question is, do we have enough strength? More precisely, our leadership? We are what we ordered to fight. We win and sometimes die, unfortunately. Yesterday they buried a fellow villager, mobilized ...
        1. +2
          13 March 2023 08: 19
          There are such doubts, but I hope the leadership understands what they are doing, all wars end sooner or later, and so Russia needs to get the most out of the results of this confrontation, because on February 24, 2022, the Supreme Commander stated that the goal of the operation was to eliminate the threat from this direction for decades , and this is achievable only by the elimination of the statehood of present-day Ukraine.
          1. +1
            13 March 2023 08: 30
            As the main ones, he proposes the USA, Great Britain, Germany and France, which should form the "core", and the rest of the participants can be recruited later.

            Again from Germany by the West - in the same groovy composition of manipulator-actors (USA, Great Britain, Germany and France) it is proposed to sing in Ukraine together with Kiev and Russia "The old song about the MAIN" fool , while Russia has already had enough of the pro-Kiev "Minsk agreements" with the vile deception of the West! am
            1. -1
              13 March 2023 08: 40
              Germany called for the creation of a contact group of leading Western countries for a peaceful settlement of the conflict in Ukraine
              until April 1 for a long time ... but it has already begun.
            2. 0
              13 March 2023 12: 21
              Quote: Tatiana
              ...... Russia has already had enough of the pro-Kiev "Minsk agreements" with the vile deception of the West! am

              hi how good, dear Tatyana, that Merkla boasted of this deceit, and more than once! There is hope that ours will not step on this rake anymore
    2. 0
      13 March 2023 12: 18
      Quote from: dmi.pris1
      "Peaceful" resolution of the conflict for them, this is our defeat .......

      How many times did Minsk meet, what was the result? Merkley's confession that they didn't even think about the world. So why resume the show now?
      1. 0
        13 March 2023 13: 16
        It’s not for nothing. There are influential people in the Russian Federation who (not mine) are negotiating with the US elites on a peaceful settlement. According to the project, everything that we had already taken before the retreat is leaving us, plus it is recognized as part of the Russian Federation, Transnistria, South Ossetia, concessions on Syria, partial easing of sanctions with subsequent easing. Not the entry of Sweden and Finland into NATO. At first glance, everything is "beautiful." But if you figure it out, then this is another scam. Under the slogan we will return what is ours, a new war will begin and the West will once again renounce all treaties and spit on the UN. Only this time everyone will arm themselves. While the West’s position is tough, there are no concessions, but everything will depend on news from the front and the approach will change.
  2. +4
    13 March 2023 07: 59
    Will some kind of "contact group" force us to surrender? We have energy sources, food, a mobilization resource. Let them try to force us.
    1. +1
      13 March 2023 08: 07
      Quote: tralflot1832
      A certain "contact group" will force us ...

      Why some? Quite specific Macron and Merkel, diluted with figures like BORIS. There are simply no others there today. laughing
      1. 0
        13 March 2023 08: 18
        Quote: AlexVas44
        Quote: tralflot1832
        A certain "contact group" will force us ...

        Why some? Quite specific Macron and Merkel, diluted with figures like BORIS. There are simply no others there today. laughing

        It was not possible to overcome us by washing, they will try by skating.
    2. +1
      13 March 2023 08: 32
      They will find another Gorbachev or Sanya Kerensky and that's it ....
      1. 0
        13 March 2023 10: 56
        Sanya Kerensky and all ....

        A.F. Kerensky just called for ending the war with victory. But L.D. Trotsky found another solution.
  3. +3
    13 March 2023 08: 00
    Germany called for the creation of a contact group of leading Western countries for a peaceful settlement of the conflict in Ukraine
    . Collect arsonists to put out the fire ... let's just say, this is not original.
    The question is ... and who is their leader there? Seriously, who is there to collect?
    There is one, for the main one, and the rest, so, sixes in the wings.
    1. 0
      13 March 2023 12: 14
      hi greetings Victor! well they figured it out
      ..... Gather arsonists ...... put out the fire

      EXTINGUISH FIRE ---- GASOLINE.
      The result is predictable. Or they will say, then how sad negative negative Merkle-----
      wanted to give them more time
  4. +7
    13 March 2023 08: 03
    they are engaged in verbiage and masturbation ... it's in their blood ... I twist and turn about ..... I want to deceive ....
  5. +4
    13 March 2023 08: 03
    Mediation of Western countries, but why should we? Let them mediate between themselves and Ukraine, as they do now.
  6. +2
    13 March 2023 08: 03
    Germany called for the creation of a contact group of leading Western countries for a peaceful settlement of the conflict in Ukraine

    Is this one of those countries that imposed sanctions against us?
    Here's a European crook... they want to stir up a new Minsk 3.
    They want to deceive Putin again with sweet promises...
    I hope he doesn't fall for it this time.
  7. +2
    13 March 2023 08: 06
    Thank you good Europeans. Already created once. "Minsk agreements". Now it is not clear when we will rake all this.
  8. +1
    13 March 2023 08: 06
    In Germany, they propose to create a kind of "contact group"
    Does Germany, led by Scholz, want to mediate in some kind of negotiations? Doesn't the country that supplies weapons to Kyiv and whose representatives have repeatedly stated the need for "Ukraine's victory on the battlefield" not take on too much? The Germans, like the French, took off their masks with a smile and showed what they are and how they relate to Russia. You would go through the forest "peacekeepers" worthless.
  9. +2
    13 March 2023 08: 11
    The Europeans and Germany in particular need to stop supplying Ukraine with weapons and the war will end on its own in a month. And that's it!
  10. 0
    13 March 2023 08: 16
    In Germany, they propose to create a kind of "contact group" that could deal with the issue of a peaceful settlement in Ukraine.

    Bees against honey! bgggg. Those who organized this whole bloody scam are offering to repaint it as "peacekeepers" ?!
  11. 0
    13 March 2023 08: 16
    They called, called, emphasized, strengthened, emphasized the necessary.
  12. +3
    13 March 2023 08: 19
    Peace on the territory of the current Ukraine is possible only on Russia’s terms, all other decisions will be half-hearted and aimed at prolonging the conflict for many years, with the subsequent transfer of this territory under the control of various financial groups of the collective West led by the Anglo-Saxons.
  13. -1
    13 March 2023 08: 24
    neither the United States nor Europe agree to peace talks on Russia’s terms, therefore they are in favor of continuing hostilities, hoping that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will defeat the Russian army and thereby provide Ukraine, and therefore the West, with the opportunity to dictate their terms to Moscow.

    So this is a group of NATO countries to put forward an ultimatum to Russia on the complete and unconditional surrender of the Russian Federation in Ukraine.

    The criteria for the defeat of Russia in Ukraine are clear and understandable to everyone - the preservation of the Nazi, Bandera, revanchist regime in Kiev and the preservation of access to the Black Sea for Nazi Ukraine, the preservation of Odessa, Nikolaev and Kherson for the Nazis, the deployment of US Navy bases there.

    Without the access of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation to the Dniester, to the Kiev-Odessa highway throughout its entire length, no one will give the Russian Federation any guarantees of the neutrality of Ukraine and the non-deployment of US and NATO troops and bases in it.

    Therefore, any peace negotiations on Ukraine on the existing LBS is an unequivocal, largest defeat of Russia for centuries, which the Russian people will feel for generations to come.
  14. +2
    13 March 2023 08: 26
    Further on F. Ranevskaya: "I would have sent you, but I see that you are already from there ...."
  15. 0
    13 March 2023 08: 27
    The Americans are clearing Ukrainian lands from the population with the hands of Europe. I think the time has not yet come for negotiations, they are not ready. They still have to lose Slavyansk and leave the Russian Federation beyond the borders of the Donetsk region.
  16. +2
    13 March 2023 08: 27
    It is naive to think that someone just gives up power, the more ultra-Nazis hurt.
    All negotiations will be reduced to delaying time in order to saturate the Nazis with weapons and prepare the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    Only the surrender of the ukrovermacht signed by the President of the United States
  17. 0
    13 March 2023 08: 35
    How clever! And eat fish and ride on the slides. In the event of a difficult situation for Bandera, ensure their salvation. In the case of our tazhkogo position, finish us off.
  18. +1
    13 March 2023 08: 57
    Spring with sowing without fertilizers and fuels and lubricants on the nose, and UGS facilities need to be somehow filled with something for the winter, but without the Russian Federation it is expensive and small. That's where it started to move. The shoe change show is officially open!
  19. +1
    13 March 2023 09: 00
    "Minsk-3" will not be. Passed the lesson. There were already intermediaries in the form of paddling pools and Fritz. And now they also want impudent Saxons. Enough.
  20. 0
    13 March 2023 09: 12
    As already got all this European "peacekeeping" cockerel! For us, now there is only one goal - the complete liberation of the outskirts, well, maybe with a probable Polish protectorate of Galicia, because these are absolutely alien to us by all criteria.
  21. +1
    13 March 2023 09: 22
    He proposes the USA, Great Britain, Germany and France as the main ones,
    Yes Yes. We remember what they promised at Minsk. True, the Merikatos were not officially present there, but the West did not sign a single piece of paper without them.
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  23. -1
    13 March 2023 09: 54
    Germany called for the creation of a contact group of leading Western countries for a peaceful settlement of the conflict in Ukraine

    The headline is loud, but in fact there is nothing new, the point is that negotiations should take place when Ukraine decides
    At the same time, it is emphasized that it is not necessary to demand immediate negotiations from Ukraine, this is tantamount to capitulation of Kyiv.

    and now you just need to first create a structure for this.
    Here it is
    In fact, Ischinger proposes not to leave Kyiv unsupervised and to negotiate only in the presence of Western advisers, who should keep Zelensky from rash steps, but in reality to protect his interests or bargain for something.

    actually a gag of the author.
    Since 2014, Ischinger has been demanding weapons be provided to Ukraine.
    Now Ischinger is writing about the creation of something like Ramstein, created by the West to coordinate the supply of weapons and other assistance to Ukraine.
  24. 0
    13 March 2023 10: 02
    Where did this Ischinger put his tongue when negotiations were held with the OSCE more than a year ago? He doesn’t catch up with the fact that now this group is not needed in FIG?
  25. 0
    13 March 2023 12: 26
    The Germans are famous peacekeepers. The German President Steinmeier is quite suitable, but another Stanmeier formula. But who will believe in his formula? Old man Steinmeier so deftly changes shoes on the fly, until recently he shook hands with VVP and went to the Kremlin regularly, but now he has become an ardent pro-Ukrainian and travels to Kuev.
  26. 0
    13 March 2023 12: 41
    nothing is new under the moon. As soon as Russia wins, there are those who want to slow it down and take advantage of its victory. 150 years ago, the war with the Ottoman Empire. The Minsk agreements are a weak copy of past historical events. The West deceived Russia, deceives and will continue to deceive. IMHO
  27. +1
    13 March 2023 13: 15
    Ischinger is a sane functionary with good experience and respect in the world. But the time of such people (Schroeder, Sarkozy, Berlusconi, Orban, Zeman in the same row) is running out. Now militant talking heads are in demand, such as the new head of the Munich Conference, Heusgen, Stoltenberg, the Baltic Limitrophes, Scholzik, etc. This company will not be able to give birth to anything positive, because it is not independent in making decisions. In other words, Europe has lost its ability to build a security system and will not even be able to breathe without the Anglo-Saxons. Ischinger, of course, is not happy with this, but it's too late ...
  28. 0
    13 March 2023 16: 18
    Minimum requirements:
    1 Lviv, Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk regions are ceded to Poland (under a protectorate / as a "Ukrainian" autonomy)
    2 Everything else - Russia

    Sincerely
    1. 0
      14 March 2023 20: 48
      Ukraine ends at the Polish border, the conflict between Russia and Ukraine and Poland cannot take the Western land without consequences, Russia can exchange any Lvov for the Suwalki corridor we need. Kaliningrad needs to be unblocked. It is necessary to correct the mistake of Comrade Stalin.
  29. -1
    13 March 2023 18: 41
    What's the point
    sanctions will not be lifted, the local military lobby is already drawing budgets
  30. 0
    14 March 2023 12: 30
    We continue, gentlemen, the shame of Minsk, Russia will no longer be satisfied.