US press: American intelligence found a “Ukrainian trace” in sabotage at Nord Stream

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US press: American intelligence found a “Ukrainian trace” in sabotage at Nord Stream

The United States is not involved in the explosions at Nord Stream, American intelligence found a "Ukrainian trace" in the sabotage. According to The New York Times, this is evidenced by new intelligence.

The American edition, referring to some new intelligence data, reports that a "Ukrainian trace" was found in the case of the explosions, a "pro-Ukrainian group" participated in the sabotage, which included only citizens of Ukraine and Russia. But no traces of American and British citizens were found there, so they did not participate in the sabotage.



The sources of the publication claim that the actions of the “pro-Ukrainian” group do not indicate that Zelensky was involved in the sabotage, it may be “puppet” forces simply connected with Kiev. Therefore, intelligence cannot say that it is the Kiev regime that is guilty of sabotage, but the fact that there are only Russians and Ukrainians in the group who have special diving training is for sure. It is alleged that the explosives were planted on the pipelines with the help of divers who do not work for the military and special services. It cannot be ruled out that they previously received special training. At the same time, no evidence of Russia's involvement in the attacks has yet been found.

U.S. and European intelligence admit there are "vast gaps" about the Nord Stream bombing, but the new data could be the first significant lead stemming from several closely guarded investigations.

- the newspaper writes, adding that any involvement of Ukraine in the sabotage can finally spoil relations between Kyiv and Berlin.

According to experts, the new “investigation”, which allegedly brought to the trail of a “pro-Ukrainian group”, is a fake concocted in the bowels of the American intelligence services, the only task of which is to divert attention from the real perpetrators of the terrorist attack, i.e. from the USA. The White House declined to comment on this publication.
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    1. +9
      7 March 2023 20: 00
      If it's done with dill, then it's time for Scholz to think about helping Mr. Ze! So the gentlemen from the State Department almost came up with that duck
      1. +21
        7 March 2023 20: 09
        Quote: Argon
        If it's done with dill, then it's time for Scholz to think about helping Mr. Ze! So the gentlemen from the State Department almost came up with that duck

        "maybe it's an evil janitor"
        1. +8
          7 March 2023 20: 14
          Quote: poquello
          "maybe it's an evil janitor"

          1. +4
            7 March 2023 21: 48
            US Press: American intelligence found a “Ukrainian trace” in sabotage at Nord Stream

            It's an elementary American bluff according to Goebbels from the US intelligence services, in order to shift the OBVIOUS blame for undermining "SP-1" and "SP-2" from the United States and personally from Biden, who is already threatened with IMPEACHMENT in the USA with a criminal INVESTIGATION in court, on someone else.

            In the United States now - already without it - Biden has become a real threat of possible impeachment - including and in connection with the ineffective excess of American financial and military assistance to the same Ukraine - its Nazi Kyiv regime - against Russia.

            under the threat of resignation from the side of already 14 demands of the trumpists Biden's team is also now: 1) gene. US Attorney Merrick Brian Garland, 2) vice president kamala haris, 3) Secretary of State Anthony Blinkin and 4) Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mallorcas.
        2. +1
          7 March 2023 23: 15
          To quote their yellow press, do not respect yourself, the aliens did this when they flew to Mars for normal grass, they just breathed a little gas on Venus and missed a bit.
        3. 0
          8 March 2023 00: 44
          The janitor would have blown up the "friendship" gas pipeline))))
        4. TIR
          0
          8 March 2023 02: 24
          The version is just a spit in the face of reason and conscience. Shows how they are cattle and they have nothing sacred. From a technical point of view, only a few countries can do such sabotage. The United States has committed sabotage against its allies
          1. 0
            8 March 2023 08: 45
            Quote: TIR
            The version is just a spit in the face of reason and conscience.

            In international relations on the part of the consolidated West, there has long been neither reason nor conscience. There is only the desire for dominance and profit at any cost. And after the change of dad and mom to "parents 1,2," talking about holiness on the other side is generally ridiculous. The United States is well aware that all attempts to "get rid" of this terrorist attack in a serious discussion do not "roll". But the fact is that while no one can seriously “embed” them, they don’t give a damn about anyone and everything. On world opinions, on some kind of "international law", on the problems of the economies of European countries ....
      2. +27
        7 March 2023 20: 10
        a new "investigation" that allegedly led to the trail of a "pro-Ukrainian group"
        It's not even funny anymore. This is already a complete deformation of mental activity, which led to megalomania and permissiveness.
        1. +6
          7 March 2023 20: 45
          marchcat (Marchcat)
          Today, 20: 10
          NEW

          +9
          a new "investigation" that allegedly led to the trail of a "pro-Ukrainian group"
          It's not even funny anymore. This is already a complete deformation of mental activity, which led to megalomania and permissiveness.
          It's really not funny. This is the naked truth. Explosions of flows are the work of "a pro-Ukrainian group headed by D. Biden.
          1. +13
            7 March 2023 21: 27
            Either way, this will become the generally accepted version.
            Too convenient for EVERYONE.
            The EU will receive an excuse to stop aid to Kyiv.
            Russia will get an excuse not to declare the US terrorists (unfortunately, too many "at the top" are interested in trading with the US)
            The USA remains "white and fluffy" (although "white" is now an insult to blacks, isn't it?)
            Even in Kyiv there are idiots who happily acknowledge responsibility.
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            2. 0
              8 March 2023 08: 39
              Quote: Shurik70
              Too convenient for EVERYONE.
              The EU will receive an excuse to stop aid to Kyiv.

              Yes, the whole point is that according to this version, this mysterious group acted on its own initiative, and Zelensky and his gang knew nothing about this! This means that the government of Ukraine has NOTHING to do with it, and depriving the ukroreich of assistance because of a couple of frostbitten "pro-Ukrainians" will look illogical!
              Moreover, they were originally called not Ukrainians, but "pro-Ukrainians." That is, even the national identity was wrapped up as much as possible. This means that they could be Ukrainophiles from Zimbabwe, Barbados, Nepal, Nauru... That is, Ukraine becomes VAASHER to do with it, since it cannot be responsible for the actions of "pro-Ukrainian patriots" from all over the world :))
              And it becomes even more illogical to stop helping her!
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        2. +5
          7 March 2023 20: 54
          Quote: marchcat
          This is not even funny.

          We know what happened after the twin towers were blown up. And what will be the undermining of the joint venture, we have yet to find out. Fashington must be destroyed! hi
        3. -1
          7 March 2023 21: 51
          This is not even funny

          called a frank mockery of the victims of the crime and common sense, which once again shows the demonic nature of the power superstructure of the West
      3. +5
        7 March 2023 20: 17
        Liver Scholz has something to think aboutbelay? Others think for him.
        1. 0
          7 March 2023 20: 31
          It is notable that they reprimand:

          https://cs14.pikabu.ru/video/2023/03/05/1677986418287860467_291e6db5_1280x704.av1.mp4
      4. +9
        7 March 2023 21: 01
        Quote: Argon
        If it's done with dill, then it's time for Scholz to think about helping Mr. Ze! So the gentlemen from the State Department almost came up with that duck

        Everything will now be hung on the dill, even the death of Mu-mu, still not a tenant ...
        1. 0
          7 March 2023 21: 55
          if there is no gas in the geyrop, pan Zelya is to blame.
      5. +6
        7 March 2023 22: 15
        Quote: Argon
        If it's made by dill , then it's time for Scholz to think about helping Mr. Ze! So the gentlemen from the State Department almost came up with that duck

        Here the word IF, as well as the whole hypothesis, is not applicable at all, since it is simply impossible to collect pineapples in the tundra in a cranberry swamp. No.
        It's hard to come up with a dumber excuse. First, they framed Scholz. The Germans, frankly, are not weakly freaked out by such a situation, when he drives Leopards and Cheetahs to Banderlog, and they, as a token of gratitude, cut off Germany from gas and plunge their country into an energy and economic crisis. Secondly, they finally write off the Banderlog general clown as a world-class terrorist, maintaining relations with which will discredit any politician of any self-respecting country. And this "fuck it" was born in the bowels of American intelligence !!! The mattresses have sunk below the baseboard and have plastic heads! request
      6. 0
        8 March 2023 13: 16
        "... this is what new intelligence says."
        ************************************************** ****************************************
        No problem...

        But then American intelligence should share "old" data with the world and the VO forum. And then we'll figure it out...

        By the way, in this regard, an episode of 5-6 years ago is recalled.
        When "all intelligence" of NATO (and the US is the most diligent of all ...) shared with their authorities, and the so-called. "the world community", the so-called. "in-foy" about a certain "Russian submarine" in the waters off the coast of Stockholm ...

        Even "irrefutable data" about the "stay" there of some uninhabited underwater vehicle, "Russian", of course, cited ...

        They even staged a whole search and pursuit operation in this shallow puddle ...

        After three days, it turned out that some Swedish fisherman, who reported about the "Russian" submarine in the water area, "put on his glasses incorrectly" ...

        And here it turns out that the whole NATO-vskaja "mine" squadron, within the framework of the BALTOPS-sovskogo, annual booth, exercises of the same name in the area of ​​​​laying the branches of highways SP1 - SP2 spent a whole week, without exception, all in the "wrong" glasses were ...

        And as many as EIGHT submarine charges managed to "not notice" ...
    2. +23
      7 March 2023 20: 01
      The Yankees believe that they can sell any nonsense to the world. Well, if they found a "trace", then the EU will soon sing along. The "Ghost of Kyiv" has already been and now the combat swimmer Mykola-Ikhtiandr will draw
      1. +6
        7 March 2023 20: 52
        now the combat swimmer Mykola-Ikhtiandr will draw

        This is where the same submarine from the steppes of Ukraine will surface
        1. +1
          7 March 2023 21: 37
          Tim, they say that she (the submarine) died heroically in an air battle. They need to come up with something else ... no less heroic.
          1. +1
            7 March 2023 23: 40
            I remember from childhood.
            Submarine
            In the steppes of Ukraine
            Died in unequal
            dogfight
      2. +1
        7 March 2023 21: 58
        The Yankees believe that they can sell any nonsense to the world

        the genre of slanderous creativity requires: take hold of your chest - say something, here are the Americans, having unscrewed the eggs from Europe, and sculpt a gobat to the wall, drill game
    3. +12
      7 March 2023 20: 02
      Outrageously funny. And divers ukrov set mines. The lamb is preparing for barbecue, it seems.
      1. +9
        7 March 2023 20: 19
        The lamb is preparing for barbecue, it seems.

        Yes, the auction is on. Either the paddling pools miss the Russians at the Olympics, or now this anecdote.
        1. +2
          7 March 2023 21: 06
          Quote: Labrador
          The lamb is preparing for barbecue, it seems.

          Yes, the auction is on. Either the paddling pools miss the Russians at the Olympics, or now this anecdote.

          Well, incomes are falling. What kind of competitions in synchronized swimming, rhythmic and artistic gymnastics, fencing, and so on. without Russians.
          There is no interest, no intrigue, sales from tickets and advertising are falling.
      2. +12
        7 March 2023 20: 19
        Everything is simple. At the bottom, near the pipe, traces from flippers and an inscription on the Zrobleno footprint in Ukraine were found. That's how they determined that they were Ukrainians. But seriously, I think the Ukrainians will be made extreme by a specialist, they still have nothing to lose.
        1. +1
          7 March 2023 21: 59
          And there is nothing to pay for the damage. You can also hang a chapel on them.
      3. +2
        7 March 2023 20: 48
        Quote: Zagrebun
        And divers ukrov set mines.

        They also collected them "on the knee" while drinking vodka. laughing
    4. +5
      7 March 2023 20: 06
      Another fairy tale about a white bull! Here, as always, the question arises: Who benefits from this?
      1. +2
        7 March 2023 22: 01
        Here, as always, the question arises

        here all the questions are sewn with white thread
    5. +3
      7 March 2023 20: 06
      ahhhhhhaaahhh))) oh yes, well done Biden, they find a way out of any lie for the mass media, although such a naively stupid
    6. -11
      7 March 2023 20: 06
      Well, the operation is within the power of a private trader or LLC. Not only we have PMCs...
      1. +3
        7 March 2023 20: 16
        Voot .. even those kakels. there is no possibility to undermine
        1. 0
          7 March 2023 21: 19
          Quote: lestad
          Voot .. even those kakels. there is no possibility to undermine

          Those. possibility is not an issue. Frames are everything. In Ochakovo, with the tenacity of Sisyphus, the Britons train the forelocks not only to swim, but also to dive deep. The question will come up whether it’s not worth it, the main thing is to fulfill the task set by the hegemon ...
        2. +1
          7 March 2023 21: 33
          Voot .. even those kakels. there is no possibility to undermine

          And who is talking about them? The US disowns, blaming the "pro-Ukrainian group". Or maybe there is no intrigue? It is quite affordable for wild Norwegians to hire a PMC named after them. Taras Bulba.
    7. -1
      7 March 2023 20: 14
      Quote: Argon
      If it's done with dill, then it's time for Scholz to think about helping Mr. Ze! So the gentlemen from the State Department almost came up with that duck

      They are a team, they are a team.
    8. +2
      7 March 2023 20: 14
      an extremely serious publication - The New York Times, how can you not trust him?)))
      1. 0
        7 March 2023 21: 22
        Quote: Normann
        an extremely serious publication - The New York Times, how can you not trust him?)))

        If this is The New York Times Donbass, then yes, of course ...
      2. +2
        7 March 2023 22: 03
        extremely serious publication - The New York Times

        only Colin Powell and Psaki are more serious
    9. +8
      7 March 2023 20: 17
      In Ukraine, there is no system for training deep-sea divers and aquanauts, there is no equipment, specialized vessels and other things, such as deep-sea areas for training for training specialists. The US Navy, Great Britain, Sweden, Govenia and several other countries in the world have such forces and means. In five countries, scientific research institutions have been created and are pursuing such actions, under the roof of state intelligence agencies. There are no more than a hundred such specialists in the world, and they, as a rule, know each other.
      1. +1
        7 March 2023 21: 51
        There are no more than a hundred such specialists in the world, and they, as a rule, know each other.

        89 meters. Record without scuba -124, with scuba -330 meters.
        Underwater drone CHASING M2 (cable 200m) is quietly sold and weighs 11 kg.
      2. +2
        7 March 2023 21: 55
        Explosives were planted in advance by the ancients - when the seas were dug :)
    10. +6
      7 March 2023 20: 17
      Anecdote of course, and very stupid.
      But the western people shove.
      Biden will remain white and fluffy.
    11. +7
      7 March 2023 20: 19

      Administration, image contains text! What are you missing?
    12. +5
      7 March 2023 20: 22
      They are already there in the White House. Or the whole world is taken for the Papuans. 404 does not even have a ship capable of sailing to the Baltic Sea, not to mention equipment and specialists.
      1. 0
        7 March 2023 21: 37
        Quote: tralmaster
        404 does not even have a ship capable of sailing to the Baltic Sea

        It swims and * ram in the hole, which means that the lanauts could easily swim to themselves, especially when you are provided with both a steamer and a decompression chamber. Moreover, in the first versions there was also about the Poles, but the Poles into the water ?! Oh well...
    13. +4
      7 March 2023 20: 23
      I’m a little bit familiar with aquanauts, not to be confused with alkonafts. Dive 100 meters, work at the bottom for half an hour and emerge without decompression, they hold the whole world for idiots. I’m definitely not an idiot. Amateurs dived and blew up! are you lying Kozyulsky?
      1. +4
        7 March 2023 20: 52
        they hold the whole world for idiots. I'm definitely not an idiot.

        Yes, just a thief shouting to the crowd of onlookers "Stop the thief!" ... Do not take this nonsense seriously ...
      2. 0
        8 March 2023 00: 50
        Aquanauts are many times less than astronauts. On the ISS, you can launch a stupid woman and she will hammer with gaskets and dig a hole.
        Get back a little in topic and communicated with people. Terminator smokes on the sidelines, but health is needed immeasurably.
    14. +5
      7 March 2023 20: 29
      After it was a proven fact that they did it, they fabricate tall tales, not even backed up with the slightest evidence that someone else did it. lol. The Germans must be really stupid. They should be out stoning the USA embassy in Berlin in great masses, but no, the superior race now is just sheep.
    15. Mwg
      +4
      7 March 2023 20: 31
      Well, since American intelligence found a “Ukrainian trace” in the sabotage, then in the very near future we should expect “confessions” from the Ukrainian side. Perhaps even the next "terminator" will be shown, who, in trousers, dived with a barrel of gunpowder to the pipeline. With a pedigree straight from Taras Bulba
    16. +5
      7 March 2023 20: 34
      Brad (not Pete) some
      At first I thought: a hat,
      No, half the world is broadcasting this crap.
      I will assume that the Ukrainian group bought a submarine and equipment on the black market, then trained in the estuary near Odessa for about 3 months, then plunged into the Danube near Sulina, went submerged to the Main-Danube canal, then entered the North Sea in district of Rotterdam

      Then the Danish Strait got to the bottom of Bornholm Island

      And did her sad deed belay
      3500 km+ ~900 km< 5000 km
      I admire Ukrainian submariners, Psaki will not let you lie

      The degradation of not only journalists, but also people in general, is on the face.
      Why post this nonsense?
      1. +4
        7 March 2023 20: 52
        Your investigation draws on the Nobel Prize, for world peace. hi drinks
        1. -1
          7 March 2023 20: 57
          winked
          Do not appreciate.
          I'm not Obama.
          It's now the turn for the Nobel Prize, Zelensky won't let you lie
    17. +4
      7 March 2023 20: 36
      Why trifle, looking for shadows of credibility, they would immediately blame the Atlanteans, destroying any human structures on the bottom of the sea. The current gay Europeans with a rumbling will gobble up any d---mo that fell out from under the Americans.
    18. +1
      7 March 2023 20: 36
      It is worth recognizing that the Americans can afford to "carry a blizzard", or rather, we allow them to use our "red lines". What prevents us from shooting down their AWACS plane, which is cutting circles around the Crimea.
    19. +8
      7 March 2023 20: 41
      The depth is relatively small, 60 - 80 meters. Of course, it is not accessible to amateurs, but for professional diving it is quite possible without super-technologies and government assistance. But! The bombs that exploded the Nord Stream pipes cannot be bought in a divers' store and cannot be assembled in a garage, and even in the secret laboratories of the Ukrainian Reich, it would take several years to develop them by students of Soviet scientists who were not previously specialists in such devices, not to mention conducting numerous prototype tests. This is first. And secondly, not only the surface, but also the underwater situation in these places is controlled by NATO, which monitors the movements of our fleet, especially submarines. So a civilian vessel with a detachment of Svidomo divers with a helium mixture in cylinders and a barrel of hexogen disappears. The maximum that they could do is to take a picture against the background of the pipe under the supervision of anti-submarine services.
      1. +2
        7 March 2023 20: 55
        I don’t know about diving, but about the “bomb” you are absolutely right. The explosive used in underwater explosions is quite specific. I do not think that Ukraine has conducted research in this area.
        1. -1
          7 March 2023 21: 18
          I do not think that Ukraine has conducted research in this area

          Comrade, what country were you born in?
          Does the word EPRON remind you of anything?
          On March 13, 1923, Yagoda ordered the creation of EPRON under the GPU.
          In 1930, the EPRON Paramilitary Diving College was opened in Balaklava, which trained diving personnel and was engaged in research activities.
          1. -1
            8 March 2023 04: 42
            IN THE USSR. I'm sorry, but I didn't know. I didn't even know that technical schools were doing research.
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      2. -3
        7 March 2023 21: 05
        The depth is relatively small, 60 - 80 meters. Of course, it is not available to amateurs, but for professional diving it is quite possible without super-technologies and government assistance

        Where? Ah, this is the Baltic Sea.
        1. Cold (8-10 degrees + in the middle of summer)
        2. Cloudy
        3. Currents and waves
        Diving in the Baltic Sea is exceptionally beautiful and dangerous. It is difficult to compare this sea with other seas and oceans. The green color of the water, frequent changes in visibility and weather conditions require the diver to have special training, knowledge and skills in diving.

        4. There is shipping, there are more ships than smelt
        5. At the bottom, European civilizations and wars have been spoiled in such a way that there is nowhere to set foot, and someone managed to flood chemical weapons there.
        Bonbu is 10 times easier to assemble than to dive.
        Next, how to send a signal to undermine? Mobile communication at a depth of 80 meters is not very good, and in the water, incl.
        Timer? What if a civilian mermaid gets hurt? The Danes will not forgive.
        ----
        If only so

        But even then this whole operation of the fleet will be with preparation a year
        1. +3
          7 March 2023 21: 43
          Epron was not engaged in underwater explosions, but in the rise of ships, besides, it was in the USSR, where does Ukraine have to do with it? And even before the collapse, it was divided into the rescue service of the Navy and its civilian counterpart. It is by no means easy to create such a Bonbu, as was used, and the issue of remote control you mentioned also, of course, adds complexity. The pipe-laying site, of course, was examined and, if necessary, cleared of the European shit you mentioned, I mentioned the same thing that it’s unlikely for civilians to get there unnoticed. The complexity of the dive is of course obvious, resort divers go by, but it is technologically available to civilian divers, equipment and methods for this have long been no secret.
          Let's just say that Ukraine is not capable of carrying out an explosion in this way, their ceiling is to fill the area around the pipes with Soviet depth anti-submarine bombs, setting the depth of the explosion to the bottom level, while, of course, there can be no talk of secrecy laughing
          1. -2
            7 March 2023 22: 58
            EPRON was engaged in explosions, and blew up, and even dragged divers in tow (for quick inspection of the bottom).
            And deepened the fairway
            After blasting, the soil was eroded with a Sigmund motor pump. The motor with a pump from the hydromonitor was installed on a scow (kungas), and the hydromonitor was lowered to the ground. Its movement was provided manually by the forces of 6–7 people, placed on the scow in front. In the absence of an appropriate winch, which the Epronovites could not get on the spot, the Sigmund and the diving station were delivered on an A-3 rubber boat. A characteristic feature was the performance of part of the diving work without a helmet. Explosions were carried out in groups of two charges (rarely more), connected in series, laid at a distance of 1,5–2,0 m from each other. The charges were made from thick checkers No 1 and 2 of 3,2 kg each (8 and 16 checkers, tightly tied with whip). Funnels after explosions were formed up to 1 m deep and up to 1,5 m in diameter of the upper part. In addition to thick pieces, 10 defective mines (1906, 1908, 1912 samples) were blown up with a total weight of 1 kg of explosive and defective non-crystallized TNT in pieces and powder - 200 kg.
            When mines exploded, craters 3–4 m deep and 5–6 m in diameter appeared. A total of 1 explosions were made, 960 defective mines and 10 kg of tol and TNT were used up.

            Balaklava was in Ukraine from 1954 to 2014.
            Yes, and many veterans settled there
    20. +2
      7 March 2023 20: 48
      The US wants to get out of the waters of the Baltic Sea. Will it work?
      1. 0
        7 March 2023 21: 48
        since this message is (mostly) for internal consumption, even as the namesake comes out. remember the late Zadornov "well, stupid .."
    21. +2
      7 March 2023 20: 49
      Somehow, such excuses from the Americans smelled strongly of Comrade Powell's test tube, don't you think?
    22. +2
      7 March 2023 20: 52
      The bigger the lie, the easier it is to believe...
    23. 0
      7 March 2023 21: 02
      The United States is not involved in the explosions at Nord Stream, American intelligence found a "Ukrainian trace" in the sabotage. According to The New York Times, this is evidenced by new intelligence.
      . It's cool .... the zelebobiku does not care, it is already sinking, an extra cobblestone on the neck will speed up the process somewhat, and figs with it.
    24. 0
      7 March 2023 21: 13
      and it’s important in all this, apart from themselves, they immediately smeared ZELA ... aahhhh 22nd century of hypocrisy and lies of all countries
    25. -2
      7 March 2023 21: 17
      well, yes, they themselves came on rafts and blew up
      1. 0
        7 March 2023 21: 30
        We need to check if the underwater chauvin "Zaporozhye" is in place?
        Maybe they floated quietly on it?
    26. +5
      7 March 2023 21: 27
      The USA with its code is the "pro-Ukrainian group"
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    28. +5
      7 March 2023 21: 43
      There was such a case - some people killed Bin Laden. Like sea cats. And then, here's the misfortune, all together were killed in an accident. And now no one knows who killed whom where. Whether he killed and what's next.

      I'm thinking that the kids from the States or England who blew up NordStream should take care of insurance urgently. So that lonely widows have something to pay for the education of inconsolable children.
      1. +1
        7 March 2023 21: 46
        Quote: Denis812
        I'm thinking that the kids from the States or England who blew up NordStream should take care of insurance urgently. So that lonely widows have something to pay for the education of inconsolable children.

        Their insidious Russians killed them in Nikolaev and Ochakovo. wassat
    29. +1
      7 March 2023 21: 47
      ... a "pro-Ukrainian group" participated in the sabotage ...

      So this grouping is known to everyone - the USA !!!
      This is who you have to be to consider all other people complete idiots ??? am
    30. -1
      7 March 2023 21: 53
      They forgot to mention that Bidon was at the helm.
    31. 0
      7 March 2023 21: 58
      Scows full of feces circled the whole of Europe, and in Norwegian waters, in the zone of NATO naval exercises, the cargo was dumped overboard
    32. +3
      7 March 2023 21: 59
      Americans are simple guys and their thoughts are linear, like those of Goebels, the simpler the lie, the more likely it is to be believed. Such nonsense can only be sold to the victims of it. There are not so many submariners and explosives specialists of such a level as astronauts, it is easier to find a steamed turnip. In short, the specialists know that the Americans did it, but the fact that they are trying to whitewash themselves, they still understand that they went too far.
    33. +1
      7 March 2023 22: 20
      Ukrainians are cyborgs multiplied by eternity! laughing
    34. +1
      7 March 2023 22: 25
      I immediately guessed that this jester dived with scuba gear and blew up the streams laughing
    35. +1
      7 March 2023 23: 26
      Or maybe it was Aquaman. Here, questions should be addressed to Batman, why he does not look after his colleagues.
    36. +1
      7 March 2023 23: 35
      An opportune moment to blame all that is possible on dill. By the way, Kennedy also threw dill. We don’t talk about Hitlerchuk at all.
    37. 0
      7 March 2023 23: 38
      "reports that a "Ukrainian trace" was found in the case with the explosions, a "pro-Ukrainian group" participated in the sabotage, which included only citizens of Ukraine and Russia."

      Footprint of the factory "Skorokhod"
    38. 0
      7 March 2023 23: 47
      Maybe September 11 is their hooves business?
    39. -1
      7 March 2023 23: 57
      Quote from Digger
      winked
      Do not appreciate.
      I'm not Obama.
      It's now the turn for the Nobel Prize, Zelensky won't let you lie

      There is no arguing.
      Off topic, but no matter what anyone says, I like Psaki, a very pretty girl.
      As befits a blonde, not very smart lol
    40. 0
      8 March 2023 00: 42
      Interesting data from Germany:

      The secret services of Germany, Denmark, Sweden, the Netherlands and the United States have allegedly already installed a vessel that was used to sabotage the joint venture, German media (Die Zeit newspaper) claim, citing sources in different countries. The boat was rented by a company from Poland, which belongs to two Ukrainians. Investigators determined that the boat went to sea from the city of Rostock in Germany on September 6, 2022, and then it was noticed on the Danish island of Christians, which is located in the area where the explosions occurred. The boat was then returned to the owner. Investigators found traces of explosives in the cabin.

      According to investigators, six people participated in the sabotage: five men and one woman. The group included the captain, two divers, two assistants and a doctor. Die Zeit writes that the nationality of the participants is unclear, as they used fake documents to rent a boat.
    41. 0
      8 March 2023 01: 13
      No saloreich start to merge? I can't even believe it!
    42. +2
      8 March 2023 01: 45
      Como habran hecho los ucranianos para llegar hasta ahi..teletransportacion quizas???...
      Increible el grado de desinformacion y mentiras que se manejan...pero bueno, tenemos a Macron ya la Merkel, reconociendo las "negociaciones" para aplicar los acuerdos de Minsk...
    43. 0
      8 March 2023 04: 40
      Osama bin Laden was killed by someone and killed himself in a helicopter. Someone started a staging in the Syrian Duma and then he himself fell from the balcony. Stocking up on popcorn...
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    45. 0
      8 March 2023 08: 14
      And this is not the result of that same "meeting on the run" - when Blinken practically grabbed Lavrov's jacket to talk to him?
      But we must clearly remember that any agreements that are unfavorable to them are then interrupted by the States and their conditions are not fulfilled! It is categorically impossible to conclude agreements with America!
    46. 0
      8 March 2023 10: 23
      Is it worth condemning the yellow press?
    47. 0
      8 March 2023 11: 14
      Bullshit, it's the US, UK, DK, NL
    48. 0
      8 March 2023 11: 21
      Yes, it is a fact that all these "Ukrainian traces" in order for the United States to remove suspicions from itself were made such a stuffing for the Western public.
    49. -1
      8 March 2023 13: 17
      This version, although fantastic, but since it is beneficial to everyone, will have a continuation and confirmation.
      The USA and England divert suspicions from themselves.
      Germany continues to be friends with the United States, but about Ukraine, what to take from it, savages ... in a state of passion, can be forgiven.
      Russia will continue to trade with the United States without fear of questions from its people, and there will be no need to make excuses for the red line.
      Ukraine will increase its rating of a tough fighter. and no one expects legality from it anyway.
      China is the quieter the better, so you can continue to trade.
    50. 0
      8 March 2023 13: 35
      Ukrajinská stopa je v tom, že přes Ukrajince přenášejí svou nenávist na Rusko. Nikdo nepochybuje o tom, že tu sabotáž spáchalo USA.
      1. 0
        8 March 2023 13: 36
        The Ukrainian clue is that they transfer their hatred of Russia through the Ukrainians. No one doubts that the sabotage was committed by the United States.
    51. 0
      8 March 2023 14: 07
      “I liked the version about Ukrainian secret amateur divers who pulled three threads of the Streams for its relaxedness of thought.

      Four strong ragulians, who sneaked with hundreds of kilograms of explosives (about 800 kg) on ​​a “scow full of mullet” past all sorts of stupid NATO maritime border guards, evoke sincere respect. These powerful people somehow sensed at a depth of 90 m huge pipes filled with a thick concrete “cushion”. They spent long hours examining the sabotage object - diving and swearing throughout the entire water area in the purest language. Then, for a long time and thoughtfully, they lowered the explosives (hundreds of kg to a depth of 90 m, Karl!).

      ... The coast guard saw them, amazed at the impudence of the thugs. They were seen by the American reconnaissance aircraft Poseidon. He sent inquiries to Langley, the State Department and personally to Karine Jean-Pierre - what kind of bastard is hanging around down there, filling the sea with Russian obscenities in an unknown language?

      As usual, the NATO bureaucracy followed a pattern. Probably.

      ... They asked Sergei Naryshkin - is it him that people are searching for him there, in the depths? Naryshkin sent them boldly and arrogantly. He is such a. Boorish.

      They asked Macron to call Putin and find out. Emmanuel refused - Putin doesn’t answer the phone...

      We called Annapolis - US Navy Chief Den. There they counted their divers. Everything is in place. They went into denial.

      Contacted Stoltenberg. He, trembling and lapping up the valerian, whispered: “This is Putin...God knows,” and passed out.

      Karinka Jean-Pierre promised to find out everything from the boss. When (and if) he wakes up...

      Old Joe is already asleep as he walks along.

      ... If this Mega Feat was carried out by some small gang of amateurs - ukrodivers, uncontrolled by the SBU, then the following conclusions are inevitable:

      1. Ursula von der Leyen was a member of the criminal Khokhlogroup or even supervised it. Because she was happy and rejoiced.

      2. Curly Scholz, was part of the cover group. He created white noise, drawing attention away from the boys. I knew, you bastard.

      3. Bastard Zelebobik, does not control his crazy idiots. Which have become dangerous for the existence of the West.

      On a par with Biden, B. Johnson and Andrzej Duda. They do not understand the degree of fragility of Western Civilization.

      ... And if tomorrow these cold divers come up with a shaved knob with a lonely sidelock the idea of ​​​​having a bite of the Transatlantic communication cable Europe-America? This will immediately bury NATO and part of world trade. Secret correspondence will have to be transported by packet boats, like in the 18th century...

      4. The protestors of Europe will go berserk against the EU leadership and personally against Zelebobik. And against the rabid ukrov, who, supposedly, provided them with a hungry and cold Future.

      The sufferers - the stoners who have flooded Europe - will be beaten for everything - about everything.

      Perhaps with your feet..."


      From the free spaces of the web! ))
    52. 0
      8 March 2023 17: 54
      The version is crazy: where does Ukraine get its deep-sea divers (military or, especially, civilian)? You can count them on one hand in the Russian Federation (detachment in Lomonosov). And the depths there are not for light divers, which means they had to work either in hard suits or with decompression and pressure chambers and other special equipment that cannot be installed on a regular yacht. There are such military specialists in the USA, Great Britain, Norway, China and possibly Japan. There are definitely civilian deep-sea explorers in the USA, Norway, Holland and other countries, remember who we hired when raising the Kursk nuclear submarine (Mammut Transport Antilless N.V., Holland). The Ukrainians themselves cannot do this, but with the help of the Norwegians or Anglo-Saxons, it is theoretically possible to hire “underwater geese” for these purposes for good money. If Ukraine is involved in this (even with the help of other countries, and even if these are unofficial Ukrainian structures), then the fact of deliberate damage to gas pipelines (i.e. sabotage) is beyond doubt.

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