Chinese diplomat Wang Yi declared Beijing's objective position on the Ukrainian issue

Today, Russian President Vladimir Putin met in the Kremlin with Wang Yi, member of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China, head of the Office of the Foreign Affairs Commission of the CPC Central Committee. Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of the People's Republic of China to the Russian Federation Zhang Hanhui and Deputy Foreign Minister Deng Li.

In his welcoming speech, the Russian president noted that relations between the two countries are developing in accordance with previously agreed plans in an exclusively positive direction. Putin stressed that in today's conditions of geopolitical instability, China and Russia are doing everything to stabilize the international situation.

The President of the Russian Federation sent greetings to Chinese President Xi Jinping, whom he called “our, my friend” and reminded that he was waiting for the Chinese leader in Moscow in the near future for a personal meeting.

In his response speech, Wang Yi drew attention to the fact that the strategic partnership between Russia and China has never been and will never be directed to the detriment of third countries. At the same time, Moscow and Beijing will continue to resist Western attempts to interfere in the affairs of the two sovereign states. China is ready to further strengthen strategic cooperation with Russia in all areas in the interests of our countries and the whole world, Wang Yi said.

Touching upon the topic of the Ukrainian crisis, the Chinese diplomat said that Beijing will continue to adhere to an objective position on this issue and play a constructive role in the political settlement of the conflict.

China will, as before, adhere to an objective and fair position on the Ukrainian issue

- Wang Yi quotes the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs in a communiqué following the meeting in Moscow.

Comments

[AAK]

And where is the announced Chinese peacekeeping and Russia's soft inducement to negotiations...?

[Earthwalker]

It seems that on the 24th they promise to publish the Chinese peace plan, so let's see what will be offered there.

[Shurik70]

An objective position will be when NATO countries are directly accused of stealing Russian finances and supporting Ukrainian Nazism.
Exactly in those words.
And before that - the position is subjective. They are kind of like "and not particularly to blame", but we are kind of like "do not notice"

[Belisarius]

Quote: AAK

Chinese peacekeeping and Russia's soft inducement to negotiations...?

It is not the Russian Federation that is inclining, but the West, but these radishes, you understand, do not incline in any way, they do not show the proper "political will".

[Silver99]

China is not so simple when it proposes a plan for resolving the conflict, its firm position on Ukraine is based on territorial integrity, they have Taiwan in their heads and this does not bring us closer in moving towards the end of the NWO. Here Russia has only its own interest and no allies.

[Ivan Ivanov]

On the contrary, Taiwan outside of China, as well as Ukraine outside of Russia, exist for a short period of time, both being artificial formations. It is bad if China does not see a direct analogy.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote from Silver99

China is not so simple when it proposes a plan for resolving the conflict, its firm position on Ukraine is based on territorial integrity, they have Taiwan in their heads and this does not bring us closer in moving towards the end of the NWO. Here Russia has only its own interest and no allies.

In China, besides Taiwan, there is another hemorrhoid, which is called the Uighur province. If, in part of Taiwan, China is ready to try on the Crimean version according to the Russian scenario, then the Uyghur version, by analogy with the LDNR, is not very sympathetic to it, and therefore it formally stands for the integrity of Ukraine, so as not to stir up separatist sentiments in the rebellious province, which will definitely be supported by "progressive humanity" . In both cases, China perfectly sees the bastard attempts and the game of mattresses, and therefore plays its game on the side of Russia, studies its experience and provides support. understands that the United States will play the same card with respect to Beijing, and probably simultaneously, both from the side of the sea and with the organization of riots in the Uighur district. At this point, Russia's sustained support for food and energy supplies could thwart the mattresses' attempts to blockade shipping, which accounts for 80% of China's trade. Hence the increase in settlements with Russia in national currencies, the creation of a joint payment system, the construction of bridges across the Amur and an increase in freight traffic by rail. China is getting ready and needs our support, just as we need China's support now. No one has done as much to improve relations between the PRC and the Russian Federation as mattresses have done, which they themselves are not happy about, but the trend towards rapprochement cannot be changed.

[Murmur 55]

That is, as we (China) stood on the sidelines, we will continue to stand.

[Belisarius]

There is an active discussion of the Chinese peace plan. Its essence is that the Russian Federation unilaterally ceases fire in exchange for the termination of the Western supply of weapons, which guarantees the PRC.
Then the parties come to an agreement on the division along the line of actual contact with the de jure recognition of the territorial integrity of Ukraine by the rest of the world (except for the Russian Federation).
However, the plan is unrealizable - the West does not agree. It is for the best, even if we imagine that such a plan was realized, then it will be the same as always, the "Western partners" will deceive and will not do anything.

[mark1]

Yes, we absolutely do not need such a plan and are harmful, starting from a unilateral ceasefire, ending with the recognition of the territorial integrity of Ukraine (as I understand it, within the borders of 91), but what about demilitarization and the rejection of NATO and other organizations that are harmful to us? In this form, this is not a plan, but complete bullshit, at best, a freezing conflict.
Let's hope for the mind

[cmax]

Quote: mark1

Let's hope for the mind

Who? Some have only the thought of self-preservation of their standard of living. Therefore, negotiations will be held very soon. Some people can't wait! There are no specifics in the speeches, only wishes.

[alexmach]

There is an active discussion of the Chinese peace plan.

And who actually voiced this "Chinese" peace plan?

However, the plan is unrealizable - the West does not agree

In my opinion, no peace plan is being implemented now.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: alexmach

In my opinion, no peace plan is being implemented now.

The Chinese understand this very well, but they are not the people who, like Macron, will scream from every doorway. They simply, as always, politely voice known truths and nothing more. How can China help, but not to the detriment of itself. Those who have lived with the Chinese know the Chinese way of speaking and behaving.

[Alexander 3]

I support, Complete surrender will not be supported by us. we need a VICTORY

[Belisarius]

Quote: alexmach

And who actually voiced this "Chinese" peace plan?

Westerners. Wang Yi went to Munich to negotiate before going to Moscow. From there to Moscow.

Quote: alexmach

In my opinion, no peace plan is being implemented now.

True, none. The West is convinced of the complete impotence of the Russian authorities and demands only capitulation with access to the 1991 borders. The Russian authorities are not ready to go for it.
Well, fine. We continue.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Belisarius

There is an active discussion of the Chinese peace plan. Its essence is that the Russian Federation unilaterally ceases fire in exchange for the termination of the Western supply of weapons, which guarantees the PRC.

How can China guarantee this?
=> Complete nonsense.

[Belisarius]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

How can China guarantee this?
=> Complete nonsense.

Nonsense, no one argues. But nevertheless, the plan is just that. Stage 1 - de-escalation. A ceasefire in exchange for a cessation of the supply of weapons. The second stage is the separation of the parties.
The PRC acts as the initiator of the peace plan. Of course, it cannot guarantee it, they offer it, and if everyone agrees, they act as an intermediary.
P/S. I agree that this plan, fortunately, is completely unrealistic, but if you put yourself in the place of the Chinese, it is difficult to offer anything better.

[the most important]

Quote: Belisarius

if you put yourself in the place of the Chinese, it is difficult to offer anything better.

It's better to remain silent than to say something stupid.

[Belisarius]

Quote: the most important

It's better to remain silent than to say something stupid.

Eka You famously accused me and the leadership of the PRC of stupidity. The plan is theirs. However, leaving aside your rudeness (hardly indicative of intelligence ...), what more reasonable plan could the Chinese offer? They cannot bypass the issue of the territorial integrity of Ukraine because of Taiwan, and any plan without this factor is immediately doomed to failure. They cannot offer Russia to withdraw from the line of contact, Russia will not agree to this.
Offer the best plan for the PRC, O wise one, and we will all be amazed at your mind .....

[Zakirov Damir]

Quote: Belisarius

There is an active discussion of the Chinese peace plan. Its essence is that the Russian Federation unilaterally ceases fire in exchange for the termination of the Western supply of weapons, which guarantees the PRC.
Then the parties come to an agreement on the division along the line of actual contact with the de jure recognition of the territorial integrity of Ukraine by the rest of the world (except for the Russian Federation).

You need to put your forehead against the wall well in order to come into an equilibrium state. Russia has never asked permission from anyone on how to act, including from China.
Moreover, we do not need the advice of "new patricians"!

[Belisarius]

Quote: Damir Zakirov

You need to put your forehead against the wall well in order to come into an equilibrium state. Russia has never asked permission from anyone on how to act, including from China.
Moreover, we do not need the advice of "new patricians"!

It's just trouble with crazy people .... Do you understand what is at stake, and what are you writing about?
Let's spell it out - I write on the topic, about the peace proposals that Wang Yi brought to Moscow (and before that to Munich), I continue to give my assessment of their essence - they are not feasible in practice. Do you understand this?
And here who asked or did not ask the permission of the Russian Federation? And here councils and patricians? I don't write a word about it. You are not arguing with me, but with the voices in your own head.
PS And by the way, Belisarius was not a patrician, even if you are insane it is not at all necessary to be ignorant in addition .....

[silverwolf88]

Wang Yi secured the approval of Comrade Xi's visit ... the rest will be agreed upon in person
For the slow-witted, Wang Yi is one of the hawks of China) ... surprised that he is not the Minister of Defense ... There all the talk is only about opposing the hegemon by any means

[Mint Gingerbread]

If Russia does not achieve its goals, China may forget to achieve its own.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Two territories (Ukraine and Taiwan) recently torn away from the Russian Federation and China, the goal is their return, i.e. goals are exactly the same.

[Pavel57]

China, as an interested party, cannot be objective.

[VB]

No further than yesterday, I wrote in VO how I see the development of events with China. God forbid to be a prophet, but another betrayal of the Russian army and people is being prepared. As it began in the late 80s, it continues. Only everything is meaner, because even in the leadership, in addition to corrupt politicians, there are also gesheftmachers. Will merge the outskirts. And illiterate observers say on TV that we are allies with China. Remember, not smart (I want to say), China has NO allies and NEVER will. They only have their own interests.

[Wayfarer_2]

Quite evasive are Wang Yi's words that the strategic partnership between Russia and China is not directed against third countries. Meanwhile, it could be formulated as a partnership that opposes the attempts of some countries to impose a unipolar world living by the rules set by one hegemon. These would be words that make it pretty clear which side China is on, and at the same time quite diplomatic.
With regard to Ukraine, too, it was possible to express himself more clearly. For example, that China sees that the West took advantage of the conflict in Ukraine in order to exert unprecedented pressure, and not only on Russia, but also on other countries. China, at the same time, sees what kind of regime has been established in Ukraine, as well as the fact that the conflict was provoked by the West.
But Wang Yi said nothing of the sort. And on the eve it was very warm, I would say, I talked with D. Kuleba. China has taken a wait-and-see attitude. Meanwhile, without Russian pipeline oil, without Russian open skies, without a strong rear that Russia provides, without Russian military equipment, China has no chance in confronting the United States. And the United States, realizing that they have created a dangerous competitor for themselves, does not want to endure this further, constantly heating up the situation. In this situation, Putin vainly crumbles into courtesies like "my friend, our friend." This will only worsen relations with China. They need a strong partner in the confrontation with the United States. They do not yet see this in the situation in Ukraine. Putin's affectionate speeches only emphasize the weakness. On the contrary, you need to show restraint. Show China that its evasive stance is a double-edged sword. This is how the situation seems to be. On the part of China, in favor of Russia, there are only words, and even then slippery ones, about nothing special, and without specifics, not binding to anything. But from the Russian side, they need raw materials at a cheap price, food, military equipment also at a cheap price, and political support in the fight against the United States.

[Ivan Ivanov]

That's the trouble - two fidgeting allies with evasive forms provoke the Saxons to escalate.

[Thorvlobnor IV]

It seems that this time China will not give weapons

[Ivan Ivanov]

Nedopetyukal, you see, even how it could end for him.

[Thorvlobnor IV]

Yes, it will not end badly for China. Moreover, they now have a reinforced concrete argument in future negotiations with the United States, against which the States will have to give a counter concession: China refrained from supporting the Russian Federation with weapons, and the United States supported Ukraine most of all. China simply cannot support separatism politically. he himself has the problem of Tibet and Taiwan, so it is not worth waiting for recognition of "newly acquired territories" from him. On the other hand, in the domestic information market, China will be trampled with might and main on the "aggressive plans of the West."

[hohohol]

Cunning China is trying to sit on two chairs. The Chinese are well aware that if Russia loses, they will wipe their feet on China, but at the same time, they have the largest trade turnover with the Americans. So they sit and think about how to sit on two chairs and at the same time not miscalculate. Although the time for contemplation has already passed and it's time to leave the ostrich pose - head into the sand, ass on the horizon. Either you are a strong industrial and military country, or you will be sent to the time of the Red Guards and you will have to start all over again, and then if they allow it.

[runway-1]

Touching upon the topic of the Ukrainian crisis, the Chinese diplomat said that Beijing will continue to adhere to an objective position on this issue and play a constructive role in the political settlement of the conflict.

The hypothetical compromise plan for a peaceful settlement is hardly pro-Russian and will most likely be aimed at gently forcing the parties to peace within the "post-Crimean" borders of 2014, followed by a negotiated normalization of relations...

[ivan2022]

The Chinese are a smart people. Unlike "dear Russians". And they do not plunder their country, but strengthen it.

In other words: "our worldviews with China are diametrically opposed, but that is why we are ideal partners"

It seems to me that Putin has already had to ask for something ...... On the sly.
And if you ask, then you will have to pay.

And in the end, Russia will win (unless, of course, someone else creates some other universal nonsense), but they will have to part with much larger territories. Nobody canceled the law on TOP, but on the contrary: "our locomotive flies forward ....."

From the last car of the European train, we are trying to become the last car of the Asian one on the move ...... Dangerous balancing act, but this is our choice.