The head of the Ministry of Defense of Slovakia: the Air Force will no longer operate MiG-29 fighters, it's time to send them to Kyiv

There are only four pilots left in the Slovak Air Force capable of piloting the MiG-29 fighters, which were previously in service with the Slovak army. The decommissioned aircraft will no longer be operated, so the issue of their transfer to Ukraine is long overdue. This was stated by Defense Minister Yaroslav Nagy.

The MiG-29 fighters that were in service with the Slovak Air Force have been decommissioned and will no longer take to the skies to protect Slovakia, there are no pilots for this, there are only 4 people left who still know how to pilot them, and storing aircraft costs a tidy sum. The transfer of these fighters to Ukraine will not reduce the defense capability of the republic, the minister stressed.

Slovak MiG-29 fighters no longer fly, pilots are not trained for them, and their storage requires expenses. The donation of these aircraft to Ukraine would not reduce the defense capability of the republic, moreover, 50-60% of the cost of fighters would be compensated for Slovakia through European global mechanisms

- said Nagy, commenting on the possibility of giving them to Kyiv.

Since last year, Zelensky has been trying to beg Slovak MiG-29s from Bratislava, on February 9 he directly turned to Slovak Prime Minister Eduard Hager with a request to finally send planes to Ukraine, and he promised to do it. However, it was not there, as it turned out, this government is temporary and cannot make such decisions, and new elections are scheduled only for September 30th. Although it is possible that the country's constitutional court recognizes the government's decisions as legal, and then Ukraine can receive the planes earlier.

The Slovak Air Force was armed with eleven MiG-29AS and MiG-29UBS fighters with radio and navigational equipment upgraded to NATO standards and an identification system. The Slovaks promised to transfer ten of them to Kyiv after they were decommissioned.

Comments

[dmi.pris1]

These ten still need to be capitalized, patched up. How long have they stood idle?

[cold wind]

Quote from: dmi.pris1

This ten should still be capitalized, patched up.

What do you think they've been doing all this time? Most likely they were upgraded under Storm Shadow, with a range of destruction of 400 km⁠⁠ and other western ASPs. Under the Polish moments, too, could.

British Prime Minister: UK will supply Ukraine with long-range ammunition and air defense systems

Quote from: dmi.pris1

That's all that NATO can do now in terms of the supply of aircraft ..

They did not deliver any of the aircraft at all. As the saying goes, "they haven't started yet." Most likely, they will conduct a circular exchange, instead of MiG-29 and Su-25, F-16 will be supplied. Thus, pieces of 60 instants can deliver 10-20 Su-25s.

[igorbrsv]

I think most of the Soviet aircraft in Europe have already been transferred. And these are the leftovers. Or the remains

[Wildcat]

Most likely, they will conduct a circular exchange, instead of MiG-29 and Su-25, F-16 will be supplied. Thus, pieces of 60 instants can deliver 10-20 Su-25s.

IMHO, of course, but there will most likely not be a "circular exchange" for aircraft, the Slovaks will simply "take money". During the NWO, they do not particularly need aviation, after that, even more so. And in general, they are "under the umbrella of article 5 of NATO."

It is the Poles who may want more weapons to replace the old / transferred to / to Ukraine.

[cold wind]

They are obliged to spend money on their aircraft, there is no option to just chill under an umbrella.

[Wildcat]

223 CV90, 76 Patry, 14 F16 - IMHO, the Slovaks will be able to "draw" 2 percent of GDP.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Wildcat

223 CV90, 76 Patry, 14 F16 - IMHO, the Slovaks will be able to "draw" 2 percent of GDP.

It seems they are ordering 56 Leo-2A7.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Wildcat

And in general, they are "under the umbrella of article 5 of NATO".

Do you think they read it?
I read it in English and Russian. Wife, at my request, in German and French. None of the editions says about the "umbrella". The Americans are smart guys and wrote the NATO charter for themselves. "Help that they consider possible" - that's what they will provide, and not the whole crowd will rush to fight for some Slovakia.

"Umbrella" ... A lure for tribalts and other illiterate Poles ...

[isv000]

Quote from: dmi.pris1

These ten still need to be capitalized, patched up. How long have they stood idle?

For what?! For a couple - three flights in the "takeoff-landing" mode, preparation is enough ...

[expert]

Well, that's not very pleasant news, but not unexpected.
As the song says: "Fly, doves, fly ...". There, in the song, there is no barrier for them. But for these doves, the air defense of the Russian army and the Aerospace Forces will become an insurmountable obstacle!

[dauria]

... besides, 50-60% of the cost of fighters would be compensated
.. said Nagy, commenting on the possibility of giving them to Kyiv.

Here's a beetle, shake off the unnecessary, and even cut some money from the EU. Cunningly.

[ivan1979nkl]

Here's a beetle, shake off the unnecessary, and even cut some money from the EU. cunning

there such beetles sit in every corner, trying to gain

[evgen1221]

Well, fine. If the proto-ukrams need a new country in Europe, then they can attack Slovakia, there will be nothing to fight back, everything was given to the proto-ukrams.

[Max2022]

Frankly, from the bottom of my heart, .. They want to give away these planes for almost a year, but it doesn’t even work out - no one offers compensation. Miser...

[Sith]

Maybe the condition is such that it’s easier to make a new one ... than to repair this one ...
And only we can make new ones)

Yes, and they had 10 of them. xs how many of them can be made to fly

[alexey_444]

Planes promised? Dali? (the issue has been resolved, now they are simply trading together with the Poles so that not for free, but also to have something) they will give, there will be 40 pieces. Not those ?, the orcs, of course, look a gift horse in the mouth, if the f-16 is not the last series, then the instant-29 will give the falcon a head start. At the end of the war, I think we will recognize our aces with a dozen sold Orc aircraft. Before the war with NATO (anything is possible, the Americans will not fall apart like the USSR with the benefit of opponents, their ashes will remain on all continents) we will have pilots who have trained their hands in air battles, no exercises will reproduce these battles.

[AC130 Gunship]

Have you seen real battles between F16 and Mig29 somewhere? Or just seen enough cartoons on the computer screen? So there and with An2 you can fill up the F35 ...

[aiden]

In Yugoslavia there were real battles between these aircraft

[Rosemary]

Quote: aiden

In Yugoslavia there were real battles between these aircraft

In Iraq too. And the Pakistani F-16s and Indian MiG-29s also have a history of real battles.

[75 Sergey]

The Slovaks are just creeping with shells and MiGs to them .... Is it true that compensation is demanded in 50-60% only from what - the residual value or the cost of new ones?
For a long time on European soil, arms depots and factories producing them did not self-destruct, are they really so good with Safety and Industrial Sanitation there?

[Diger]

The head of the Ministry of Defense of Slovakia: the Air Force will no longer operate MiG-29 fighters, it's time to send them to Kyiv

Here it is interesting to me:
- why, without the permission of Germany / the USA, no one can (and does not even blather) sell leopards / Abrams to a third party?
-Why can't Germany ship 30 mm oerlikon ammunition to Ukraine without the permission of Switzerland?
And why:
Soviet Kalash, t-72/55, mig-29, su-27, etc. are they all and sundry sold to anyone, and to Ukraine in particular?
Russia is the legal successor of the USSR
Who screwed something up by signing the contract?
Billionaire Chemezov?
Yeralashny Andryukha Belyaninov (whose hundreds of thousands of € and $ were found under the mattress?) or ...

Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of November 4, 2000 No. 1834, through the merger of two state intermediaries, the only state special exporter, FSUE Rosoboronexport, was formed. Andrey Belyaninov was appointed General Director, Sergey Chemezov was appointed his first deputy, who subsequently headed the company from 2004 to 2007. From 2007 to 2017, Anatoly Isaikin was the head of the company.

After all, all this was not just transferred to the USSR (for free) when the Western Group of Forces left, but it was also serviced, and under contracts.
The situation is similar to Gazprom's "agreements" with Ukraine: all the courts have been lost.
And after all, all the signatories are alive and well (in the wild) and even with good capitals, and many are in the leadership now.
How is it Zin?

[AC130 Gunship]

Zin, the arms market is even more interesting than the drug market. It seems that the UN banned the sale of weapons to Northern Sudan, and supplies there are slowly going on and on ...

[SR81]

You, dear, are asking the wrong questions ... There is a "serious" discussion going on!: If they give it, they won't give it, and if they give it, it's rubbish, and they ask for money too ...
Kindergarten, star group, beach. Well, of course they will, and it doesn’t matter how much all this will fly in our direction and on our soldiers. And if tomorrow "OUR" Kalashnikov decides to sell AKM to Ukraine, let's say through the USA, so it will be ... Because Kalashnikov is NOT OURS, like gas, oil, timber, diamonds, etc. Ha-ha-ha :(:( :(

[Fangaro]

Slovakia has come to terms with the accession of Moravia to the Czech Republic?
Then why did peaceful Slovakia need MIGs at all? USSR forced to take? And subsidized, I suppose, the hegemon of the Soviet? A third of Czechoslovakia tried to refuse subsidies, but did not succeed? Did you have to agree to development at the expense of the USSR?

[Diger]

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Slovakia has come to terms with the accession of Moravia to the Czech Republic?

In 1019, the Prince of Bohemia Oldrich (from the Přemyslid dynasty) recaptured Moravia captured by Poland.

Around 400 B.C. e. Moravia was inhabited by the Celts. Approximately 60 BC. e. the Celts were driven out by the Germanic tribes of the Marcomanni and Quads, in the VI century they were replaced by the Moravians and other Slavic tribes. In 623-658 Moravia was part of the Slavic Principality of Samo. By the end of the 907th century, on the territory of today's southeastern Moravia and western Slovakia, the state of Great Moravia arose, which reached the peak of its power in the 955th century. Then it included parts of today's Czech Republic, Hungary and the land along the Vistula. In 1003, Great Moravia fell under the pressure of the Magyars, and after the Czech prince Boleslav I the Terrible, in alliance with the East Frankish king Otto I, defeated the Hungarians in the battle on the Lech River in XNUMX, Moravia was annexed to the Czech Principality. In XNUMX, the Polish prince Boleslav I the Brave conquered Moravia and included it in his state.

Whom and what should the Slovaks forgive - the mystery of the "flexible" mind, a difficult person.

Quote from Fangaro

Did you have to agree to development at the expense of the USSR?

2013: Russia fully repaid $2 billion of the former USSR's debt to Serbia and Slovakia.

State external debt of the Russian Federation to Slovakia in the amount of 1,7 billion US dollars and Serbia in the amount of 288,8 million US dollars arose in connection with Russia's recognition of responsibility for the obligations of the former USSR that arose in the framework of trade and economic cooperation with Czechoslovakia (in the share attributable to Slovakia) and the SFRY (in the share attributable to Serbia)" , according to the release.

On May 29, 2001, on the initiative of V. Nikitin and S. Glazyev, a draft law “On the state external debt and external assets of the former USSR” was submitted to the State Duma. In the explanatory note to it, the authors asked for clarification on a number of issues, in particular:

- why do different documents of the Ministry of Finance contain different figures for servicing the debt of the USSR?

- why is the Book of Accounting and Registration of External Obligations of the USSR kept by the German consulting firm Warburg Dilon Read, and not by the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation?

It was also noted that so far the Government of the Russian Federation has not explained to the Parliament the reasons for the increase in the debt of the USSR by 19.6 billion dollars by 1994 from the date of termination of the legal responsibility of the Government of the USSR.

[tralflot1832]

It’s a pity, it’s a pity in 1968 it was necessary to work much harder, and not play the friendship of peoples. Hungary 56, Czechoslovakia 68, socialist camp 1990. Russia 2002, but the last did not grow together in the West, 2014, the cycle is 12 years old. In general, the cycle is nonsense. But it's stressful.

[1erWahrheitsMinister_1984]

Mit der Lieferung dieser MiG 29 Kampfjets wird die Slowakei
ohne jeden Zweifel zur war party und sollte samt ihrer
Lieferung also just like that behandelt werden...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Schluss jetzt mit roten Linien...!!!!!

[AC130 Gunship]

Nicht Scheisen or Nicht Schiesen

[Diger]

Olaf Scholz

True, he is talking about covid in 2021.
Everything, like monkeys repeating mantras about the mythical red lines
Die Unis und die Zeitenwende:Rote Linien für den Austausch.Mit Russland wurden offizielle Wissenschaftskooperationen gestoppt.

[Carlos Hall]

The Russian Air Force destroyed the Ukrainian aircraft, now they live on spare parts and a handful of MiGs sent to them by the Bulgarians and others. Soon they won't have planes or pilots. Russian aviation eluded the traps and gradually eliminated Ukrainian aviation and part of its air defense.

[poquello]

Quote from Carlos Sala

The Russian Air Force destroyed the Ukrainian aircraft, now they live on spare parts and a handful of MiGs sent to them by the Bulgarians and others. Soon they won't have planes or pilots.

cool, dill heaters yell that there are no problems with the flight crew, and in the meantime, their allied Slovakia
"they will no longer take to the skies to protect Slovakia, there are no pilots for this, there are only 4 people left who still know how to pilot them,"

[Diger]

Quote: poquello

will no longer take to the skies to protect Slovakia, there are no pilots for this, there are only 4 people left who still know how to pilot them,

mmm .. read inattentively. 4, only those who remained able to fly the MIG-29.
The number of personnel of the Slovak Air Force is 8 people (there are also air defense officers, instructors, clerks, etc.

two aviation wings (combat aircraft and a helicopter), an anti-aircraft missile brigade, a separate detachment of military transport aviation, a communications brigade, three bases (missile technical, repair and supply), an aviation training center

Now everyone is studying their F-16s, but for now the Poles are patrolling

For the "debts" of the USSR in 1993, Slovakia received the most modern MiG-29S at that time.
they have 9 MiG-29AS modification aircraft and two MiG-29UBS (was)

On August 29, 2022, a farewell ceremony was held in Slovakia for the MiG-29

Pysy. a fighter and transport aviation base (Slijach) with an aviation wing located on it; and a helicopter base (Presov) where a helicopter wing is deployed, as well as an operational airfield (Kukhinya).

[poquello]

Quote from Digger

4, only those who remained able to fly the MIG-29.
The number of personnel of the Slovak Air Force 8 people

Quote from Digger

Now everyone is studying their F-16s, but for now the Poles are patrolling

I realized they fly on broomsticks

[Armen Sologyan]

Looks like there are no spare parts for MiGs, so they are getting rid of it. Yes, and it is difficult for Westerners to fly on Soviet technology.

[Andrey Georgich]

Airspace over Nezalezhnaya closed? Can they be shot down immediately when crossing the border? Does AWACS work for us? We just crossed the border to intercept and greet with rockets.