Again - "on the same rake": a video of the impact of artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on a column of Russian armored vehicles near Ugledar appeared on the Web

While the Russian Ministry of Defense is cheerfully reporting on the ongoing offensive of troops in the South-Donetsk direction, a video of an unsuccessful attack by our troops near Vuhledar is being circulated on Internet resources.

Our command again steps on the same rake, sending armored vehicles to attack in open areas with not suppressed enemy artillery. On one of the sectors of the Uludar front, a large group of attackers tanks and the BMP came under attack from the guns of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, striking from a hill and perfectly controlling the situation. As a result - a lot of destroyed Russian armored vehicles, killed and wounded, a thwarted attack.

Victory is celebrated on Ukrainian public pages, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine declares that Russian troops lost 31 armored vehicles, including tanks, during this attack. Naturally, they are lying, exaggerating Russian losses by a factor of three, but ours have definitely lost up to ten vehicles. Let's hope that the equipment still managed to be evacuated.

As military expert Boris Rozhin writes, many questions arise for the command, some conclusions are not made at all from past failures. The situation near Ugledar is very complicated, there are fierce battles. At the very beginning, with an unexpected blow, ours were able to knock the enemy out of positions and cling to the dachas, but the Armed Forces of Ukraine pulled up reserves, stabilized the front and began to squeeze ours back. Ugledar stands on a hill, everything is perfectly controlled from there, and sending armored vehicles in one column in an open area was, at least, stupid.

We very much hope that the losses are not as great as they say in Kyiv.

Comments

[Kaufman]

Surprised. I thought they wouldn't write about it here.

[AdAstra]

Did you think we had no losses during the "grinding"?

[dmi.pris1]

Grinding goes in both directions. Here is a good example. Opponents are equal in strength.

[AdAstra]

Ahh, so still not the 2nd and 22nd, but equal, however ... And it would also be nice to put all the "grinders" and "grain peckers" in such tanks and under the command of such "fathers-commanders".

[Geosun]

Quote from AdAstra

Ahh, so still not the 2nd and 22nd, but equal, however ...

Be cunning! Without the support of NATO, it is the 2nd and 22nd, but if we compare the Ukrainian army together with the support they receive, then the situation is completely different. Our observers generally like to look only from a favorable angle. I think you do not argue that we are fighting not only with the Ukrainian army.

[Dreamboat]

Another deliberately muddy video with cuts from different places, and judging by the snow cover, also from different times.
Patients with psychotic all-propalers are, of course, like honey for the soul, only the video clearly does not match the description. At a minimum: only one episode with an undermining of an infantry fighting vehicle is an attack, the rest, promotion to positions. There may be shelling precisely at distant positions, judging by how relaxed the equipment is placed. Some of the equipment was simply shown on the march, then it was not there (they inserted it for beauty), some of the pieces from the technicians were unmarked (maybe they also recorded their own in the "peremogi").
That is, as a proof, this video is that somewhere, somewhere, 2 infantry fighting vehicles were really destroyed and a couple of tanks took off their shoes. Everything else blah blah blah...

[DrtFd]

obvious chopped muddy video but to local weepers and other chimps as a balm
especially delivered a volley of sunshine and crookedly photoshopped letters V

but the local clowns will gobble up such shit, the main thing is for everyone to yell that the Russian army is losing to the great Ukrainian army, which has already proceded 2 armies and is being held by both arms and legs by 40 NATO countries so that this chicken does not fall apart

and the fact that they rivet such crap shit suggests that the crested have nothing real

[Apprentice_SAM]

Quote: Geosun

Quote from AdAstra

Ahh, so still not the 2nd and 22nd, but equal, however ...

Sly!

No, it's called differently - cheating)
And, continuing the analogy:

Without the support of NATO, it is the 2nd and 22nd, but if we compare the Ukrainian army together with the support they receive, then the situation is completely different. Our observers generally like to look only from a favorable angle. I think you do not argue that we are fighting not only with the Ukrainian army.

It's like in a card game, when, although not openly, they play against one. And if they do not play themselves, then, being spectators, they prompt a weak player.
In both cases, this can be done with a candelabra)

[Ulan.1812]

Quote: Geosun

Quote from AdAstra

Ahh, so still not the 2nd and 22nd, but equal, however ...

Be cunning! Without the support of NATO, it is the 2nd and 22nd, but if we compare the Ukrainian army together with the support they receive, then the situation is completely different. Our observers generally like to look only from a favorable angle. I think you do not argue that we are fighting not only with the Ukrainian army.

Why don't we have weapons? Or people? From what hangover are equal,
The Ukrainian army is fighting, albeit armed with NATO weapons. There are no more than 10-15 thousand mercenaries there.
Maximum 4-5% of the total population.
Correctly said, our command does not learn anything.
Maybe when they begin to demote, then they will grow wiser?

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Ulan.1812

Maybe when they begin to demote, then they will grow wiser?

Until they start shooting - nothing will change - this is first.
If this is a war, then for the time of this YOUR OWN AT LEAST !!! mass booze booze banned ...
Russian soldiers are dying, but we still salute so much that I can’t understand what this joy is about and who is having so much fun ...

[ramzay21]

Until they start shooting - nothing will change - this is first.

I agree with you, but I think that firstly it would be necessary to correctly set the goal of this SVO and not muddy, but specific and understandable for all of us. Well, it is necessary to change those who make strategic decisions in conducting NWO. Because if in the first days of the NMD the bridges across the Dnieper were destroyed and during the year they continued to be attacked, preventing restoration, and UAVs Geran were also identified and attacked the places of unloading and loading military cargo in the Dnieper region, then the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the Left Bank of the Dnieper would already would have been without shells and without replenishment and without equipment, and the front itself would have long passed along the Dnieper, if not to the west. But the bridges are stubbornly not touched, and it is because of this that our guys are dying.

[9PA]

In in, in the tank, fuck the generals and colonels, full bk, no dz and weld the hatch. They will survive, fulfill the task, washed away the shame, the shtosh died, too, washed away the shame. The word shame has ceased to be something unacceptable for senior officers. A real officer should shoot himself if he fails.

[AdAstra]

And in order to calculate the possibility of supporting Nata and think about countermeasures, you need to be a megamind?

[former soldier]

Be cunning! Without NATO support, it is the 2nd and 22nd

Without NATO and taking into account the losses of aviation and armored vehicles, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are no longer the 22nd, but somewhere far away.

[d.zacharith]

No, you are fighting the Ukrainian army, otherwise, the front would already be in the Urals

[Sergey_26]

You see, in the Urals you would only be in the zone. And since there is support for the entire NATO, the APU will be bent only now. And if it weren’t for NATO, they would have really devoured the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the summer

[d.zacharith]

If, yes, if only, mushrooms would grow in your mouth

[ramzay21]

Enough lies about NATO, with which we are NOT at war. What prevented our guarantor from destroying the bridges across the Dnieper for a whole year and launching rockets and Geraniums at them and not at anyone's useless stupid targets every two weeks?
What prevented our guarantor from placing competent generals in command of the army eight years ago and using the money allocated for rearmament to create a modern and combat-ready army not on paper but in practice?

[Peter rybak]

Quote: ramzay21

Enough lies about NATO, with which we are NOT at war. What prevented our guarantor from destroying the bridges across the Dnieper for a whole year and launching rockets and Geraniums at them and not at anyone's useless stupid targets every two weeks?
What prevented our guarantor from placing competent generals in command of the army eight years ago and using the money allocated for rearmament to create a modern and combat-ready army not on paper but in practice?

What prevented our guarantor from returning to power in 2012?

[John Smith]

to do this, one would have to do the unthinkable, to fulfill the promise

[Vincent price]

A couple more months of such grinding and will become equal to the army of Uganda

[4ekist]

It is not clear from the photo: were the tanks destroyed in the place (in a small area of ​​the terrain) of dispersal or on the march? In any case, the lessons of past losses did not reach the brains of some commanders or they have no brains, which led to losses. The country should know not only the names of its heroes, but also these mediocre ..... who ruined people and military equipment.

[Rome]

I'm not special! but how can I not understand why cities are being stormed? If it is not convenient to storm it, isn't it easier to outflank and surround it, and then clean it up? Why do you need to go to the forehead?
The explanation that road junctions are needed is not serious in my opinion the road can be built anywhere, the engineers just need to have flooring as a temporary solution to logistical problems.

And of course tactics raise questions!
And to supply our artillery with questions, I saw a video from under Vuhledar, where the Ukrainians were already finishing off our crews with artillery, they hit with shells with remote detonation! how many videos of the work of our art, everywhere the usual landmine! It doesn't matter what the target is, the projectile is of the same type! we have, as I understand it, a lot of land mines with remote detonation?

[stankow]

There are remote fuses, tubes. What don't you like?

[Peter rybak]

And without so many emoticons in any way?

[cast iron]

In a city besieged by the enemy, you must at least destroy all artillery and tanks. Otherwise, the garrison will constantly nightmare the units passing by. And in order to do this, you need to block the settlement with at least the same number of troops as the besieged. And for good, the blocking group should be 2-3 times larger. But we don't have that many divisions. Therefore, we have to methodically take city after city. And the lack of modern means of control, surveillance, reconnaissance forces the Russian army to storm the cities as in the 80s of the last century ... Hence the losses ... Now, most likely, more than 6000 were killed alone. CBO revealed a lot of interesting things in all spheres of life. And most importantly, she showed that the army has exactly the same problems as society, like the economy, etc. The army cannot be remarkable in a problem society.

[Andrey Stavropolsky]

You are kind of hysterical. Get in the tank and go

[AAK]

Colleagues, to be honest, I don’t remember more than one successful offensive by our troops over the past year, at least on an operational-tactical scale, not to mention tactical and, moreover, operational-strategic. All commanding genius is limited to the scale of a company-battalion, and there are no operations on the scale of a division, not to mention a corps, from the word at all. "Battles" go for villages and city blocks, and even for individual streets and houses ... and for those like those mentioned in the article, as well as other "heroic successes" associated with the unjustified losses of our soldiers and equipment, not even a shoulder strap from a single stupid commander they didn’t rip it off with meat and didn’t send it to the front line, not to mention the terms in the MLS ... here, the oligophrenic lieutenant colonel mobilized for pushing the oligophrenic lieutenant colonel in the appeal court added a term from 5,5 to 7 years of a stricter, but this “nobility” would have to be bayoneted in the belly, you see, there would be less eager for awards for the aimlessly shed soldier's blood ... here a petty saying is not even applicable - like we don't need smart ones, but we need faithful ones ... but after all, their faithful freaks will not work ... does not understand the Guarantees that such "officers" of himself, with a serious nix, will hand over without frowning ...

[Rome]

Quote: AAK

over the past year, more than one successful offensive by our troops, at least on an operational-tactical scale, not to mention tactical and, moreover, operational-strategic. All commanding genius is limited to the scale of a company-battalion, and there are no operations on the scale of a division, not to mention a corps, from the word at all.

We will not see breakthroughs, as long-range systems dominate the battlefield! Without the suppression of which, any movement is the execution of the attackers like in a shooting range, which happened near Ugledar
It is necessary to change the army, reconnaissance and target designation, all kinds of artillery and tactical missiles have come to the fore, kamikaze drones, means of communication and data transmission, automated command and control of troops are very effective! The Soviet generals, by the way, spoke and worked precisely in this direction about such a development of the army! And in Russia they began to create a mobile and compact army, so we have what we have, they made a mistake in the strategy of building the armed forces
Now we urgently need to transform our troops in accordance with the real state of affairs. UAVs and air-based ground reconnaissance radars, automation of control, Tornado-S are urgently needed since there is no barreled long-range artillery (with the Coalition it is not clear why) and the accuracy of the artillery is so-so. For artillery, you need an assortment of ammunition: thermal (high-explosive-incendiary) for greenery, remote detonation for fields, landmines for building, cluster-type for covering columns of equipment, ideally, of course, with GPS guidance like that of the bourgeoisie.
We need kamikaze drones guiding radio emissions to destroy radars and command posts. Now we need to increase the power of artillery, we have tanks instead of artillery working from closed positions.
Well, aviation should receive long-range and precision-guided ammunition, and not the FAB500 from the Su34 or the NURs from the Su25! Attack UAVs are needed, there should be a lot of them, they should hang over the battlefield, drones operating on radars, electronic warfare aircraft with PRR are circling nearby. That's when we achieve this, that's when breakthroughs to a greater depth will begin!

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote from AdAstra

And it would also be nice to put all the "grinders" and "grain peckers" in such tanks and under the command of such "fathers-commanders".

Believe me, evil also takes from all this. But, you see, there are no mistakes. And we all learn from our own mistakes, alas, and not from others.
I don’t feel sorry for the technique, it’s a shame to tears for the guys who died not for sniffing tobacco.

[vlad106]

Quote from AdAstra

it would be nice to put all the "grinders" and "grain peckers" in such tanks and under the command of such "father-commanders"

While the Russian Ministry of Defense is cheerfully reporting on the ongoing offensive of troops in the South-Donetsk direction, a video of an unsuccessful attack by our troops near Vuhledar is being circulated on Internet resources.


What kind of "talents" have we gathered at the top ...

[Vladimir Pavlov_2]

What kind of "talents" have we gathered at the top ..

- the same talents as in 1941 ..

[cast iron]

Are you seriously drawing analogies with 1941? Very different conditions. Really different.

[Egeny]

Hello. Maybe this is a column of ukrov under our attack?
What are the tanks, what do we have ... the same, Soviet

[Alexander Soviet Union]

Not excluded. In terms of fakes, stuffing, our opponents have been very successful

[aglet]

"Hello. Maybe this is a column of Ukrainians under our attack?"
yes, yes, they are. and there, on the side, a NATO column

[lis-ik]

Quote from Egeni

Hello. Maybe this is a column of ukrov under our attack?
What are the tanks, what do we have ... the same, Soviet

You have thrown a good idea for the Konashenko department.

[4ekist]

lis-ik ...... the idea was thrown for the Konashenko department.

Why shouldn't this general visit the NVO zone himself and make a summary of the operation at the site of the Wagnerites. True, they are part of the Min. Defenses are not included.

[alexniko77]

that is, on our side, the losses are also three hundred thousand ?!

[Edik]

Quote: alexniko77

that is, on our side, the losses are also three hundred thousand ?!

No. We have a big advantage in artillery and aviation.

[Zhan]

Quote from: dmi.pris1

Grinding goes in both directions. Here is a good example. Opponents are equal in strength.

This is called, without proper air reconnaissance, they climbed into hell. Fuck you ask. Moreover, the dominant heights are occupied by the enemy, everything is in full view. It's called lupi I don't want to. Someone should get a hat for this.

[4ekist]

Zhan
Fuck you ask. Moreover, the dominant heights are occupied by the enemy, everything is in full view.

In the absence of brains and intelligence data, anything can happen.

[yho]

This was reminiscent of the case with the dead Wagnerians in Syria, when American aircraft shot the entire column.

[Mikhail Maslov]

In Syria, it was different. The Americans asked our headquarters about the presence of a contingent in this zone. The headquarters answered no and the Americans "rolled out the Wagnerites." And according to unconfirmed reports, it was General Lapin. Prigogine has not seen him since this very incident. Here are the lessons for you .As long as the authorities are "roofing" there is no other way to say that their "heroes" are not worth talking about any breakthroughs, let alone the imminent end of the war.

[SergioCDS]

[avib]

Not aviation, but artillery - the same guns 777.

[former soldier]

This is called, without proper air reconnaissance, they climbed into hell. The hell is asked. Moreover, the dominant heights are occupied by the enemy, everything is in full view.

Everything is in full view from drones and NATO intelligence, Artillery can hit accurately even without direct visibility from the heights. Given the abundance of long-range artillery and MLRS constantly changing positions, it is difficult to suppress all such firing points over a fairly large area. Which exit? HZ.

[former soldier]

Given the abundance of long-range artillery and MLRS constantly changing positions, it is difficult to suppress all such firing points over a fairly large area. Which exit? HZ.

Of course there is a way out. They wrote about it many times - to stop the supply of weapons, ammunition and drugs from the right bank of the Dnieper to the left, destroying all bridges. Leave one transport corridor for the delivery of products to the population in a place where it will be possible to effectively control it.

[storm]

Given the abundance of long-range artillery and MLRS constantly changing positions, it is difficult to suppress all such firing points over a fairly large area. Which exit? HZ. sad

And where at that time were the long-range Malki, Tornado-S with controlled RS specially for counter-battery combat, shock Gerani?
The way out in the normal organization of counter-battery combat is through the creation of counter-battery divisions based on unmanned and electronic intelligence units, as well as the long-range weapons listed above, with their placement along the entire front line with delimitation of areas of responsibility.

[Sauron80]

I’m afraid that we wanted to loudly rattle the capture of the city on the anniversary of the NWO, but it turned out how it turned out ...

[4ekist]

dmi.pris1 ...Opponents are equal in strength.

You wrote nonsense. Bandera are fighting more sophisticated and mercilessly with smaller forces. In terms of efficiency, I can only note the Russian Aerospace Forces and the Wagnerites, who are engaged in the most difficult work - storming and cleaning up settlements, and they suffer heavy losses.

[Muromczev-2015]

Why are you grinding? :) They themselves say that they mobilized about a million people, our entire army is less than this figure .. They already have the 8th wave of mobilization. For this, we carried out partial mobilization in order to equalize their numerical superiority, which was approximately 2-3 times

[IgorIP]

Taking into account the fact that our dumb-headed "strategists" throw troops into frontal attacks over and over again, as a result of "grinding" we will soon have no combat-ready reserves left. And what is even more scary - morale, already low, will drop to zero ..

[Muromczev-2015]

No, grinding is only on one side. Because in terms of the number of manpower - yes, the opponents are "equal in strength." And judging by the losses, the enemy has them not even at times, but an order of magnitude more. This is confirmed not only by the enemy himself, but even by his foreign masters, who are not at all profitable to do this ...

[Igoresh]

No, Russia is stronger, they are simply led by traitors, Judas and merchants.

[Yves762]

We hoped that these losses would be less ...
And that they will not butt with a rake ...

[Kaufman]

No, I didn't think so and I don't think so. I mean, such articles are not published here on VO

[ivan1979nkl]

Did you think we had no losses during the "grinding"?

this is just not "grinding", but an attempt at a direct blow

[yho]

The textbooks on tactics say that the ratio of casualties between attackers and defenders is at least 3:1, with the same density of fire.

[Santa Fe]

The textbooks on tactics say that the ratio of casualties between attackers and defenders is at least 3:1, with the same density of fire.

There is no such thing in textbooks, it's just a popular myth

In practice, everything is much more complicated.

Clausewitz, the author of the next version of the "art of war", thought about this problem. And these arguments were taken as a basis by his followers, strategists and masters of military affairs.

Attackers suffer heavy losses only when they break through the front. As soon as the attacking forces break out into the operational space, go to the rear communications, the defending side suffers more losses.

During the NMD, the front was broken through once, during the Izyum breakthrough of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. From there, heaps of abandoned equipment and equipment, and all the other consequences of breaking through the front that the German military philosopher described long ago in the 19th century

[VolanDemort]

There is no such thing in textbooks, it's just a popular myth

You are mistaken, this is a rule from Lanchester's laws. Still used in modern tactics and theory of war with amendments

[bravo77]

where did you see the fight? our tanks fired at someone

[svoroponov]

Losses, that is, the war is still. But the specialists have already analyzed this video. A bunch of glues and some of them have been filmed since February-March .. Part, they just pass off their equipment as ours, this is when they filmed at a distance. This is so that they do not recognize belonging. You have to keep morale up somehow. Something is real.

[Synoid]

Also surprised, stupid copy-paste from Bandera resources. Apparently they work on requests from people like you.

[Sanguinius]

Like him? What are these?
Where do you get this material from? From our (Russian) media? Or will you deny that nothing happened?

[Sid2014]

The ashes of Belogorovka beat IN OUR HEARTS, but not in the hearts of the generals and the leadership of the country!!! And the equipment, be sure, will remain standing, as it still stands near Belogorovka !!! This once again proves that we do not have an army capable of fighting at the modern level, and even according to NATO standards with satellite aviation and other types of reconnaissance and suppression of the same artillery. We go ahead as in the Second World War. We grind everything and GRIND IT Yes, and once again I am writing at least one video confirmation of the same defeat of Ukrainians from our side is there!!!??? Where??? Yes, and this is also a good example for supporters of strikes with tank wedges. Well, our army cannot afford it!

[Nikolay310]

you may have gone ahead in Mikhalkov's films ... and the operation of Bagration in general, as well as the capture of Bobruisk in particular, were not a "blow through" ... but the besogons, of course, know better

[Sid2014]

It meant that right through it in the modern world it is without intelligence, air cover and communications! I didn’t fight in the Second World War, and I’m not judged by films! In any case, NO CONCLUSIONS ARE MADE!

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: Sid2014

In any case, NO CONCLUSIONS ARE MADE!

Everything that could help them in this situation, namely: drones, satellite reconnaissance, ... is not provided for and is not welcomed by the staff list of the General Staff of the RF Ministry of Defense. Not even bug fixes.

[Bromo4er]

Ours did not inflict such devastations as near Belogorovka, but in general there is a video of the defeats of the Vushniks. From near Kherson, in other directions. There is a video of how one of our tanks, with the support of artillery, thwarted the offensive of a crowded Ukrainian armored column, knocking out several pieces of equipment. There is a video of the defeat of the recent landing on the left bank of the Dnieper, where only one of the three boats returned. There is the latest video of the destruction of the artillery of the Ukrainian DRG. Well, many people saw footage from various military correspondents from Soledar with heaps of 200s. Why not defeat? Another thing is that for some reason such videos do not cause any reaction either from us or from them. And vushniki lose equipment in large quantities. According to Lostarmore, who uses photo and video materials, the Central Europeans lose 60-70 units of equipment per week, that is, the same amount as ours lost near Belogorovka during the same time. The only difference is that near Belogorovka ours lost equipment in one place and this makes a strong impression, while the Nazis lose the same amount, but on the entire front.

[certero]

Quote: Sid2014

The ashes of Belogorovka beat IN OUR HEARTS, but not in the hearts of the generals and the leadership of the country!!! And the equipment, be sure, will remain standing, as it still stands near Belogorovka !!! This once again proves that we do not have an army capable of fighting at the modern level, and even according to NATO standards with satellite aviation and other types of reconnaissance and suppression of the same artillery. We go ahead as in the Second World War. We grind everything and GRIND IT Yes, and once again I am writing at least one video confirmation of the same defeat of Ukrainians from our side is there!!!??? Where??? Yes, and this is also a good example for supporters of strikes with tank wedges. Well, our army cannot afford it!

There are many different videos. For example, a video was recently published where one of our tanks destroyed an entire enemy armored group.

[Cympak]

We go ahead like in the Second World War

More like in the first world. If we take the Second World War, then this is more likely the period 1941-1942. With the weak interaction of the types of troops of tanks, infantry, artillery and aviation, frontal attacks on enemy fortifications and the grinding of reserves ...

[Foundling]

Konashenkov relogin ...................))))))))))

[Silver99]

Hard shots, even if half of the media's coming out is nonsense, only for this video from the battalion commander you need to tear off shoulder straps and send privates to the tank ((((

[Nikolay310]

yes, what's with the combat? maybe it's time to answer the eternally innocent Lapin-Muradov? or again, how will Serdyukov be sent to Syria to indulge in parades?

[lis-ik]

Quote: Nikolay310

yes, what's with the combat? maybe it's time to answer the eternally innocent Lapin-Muradov? or again, how will Serdyukov be sent to Syria to indulge in parades?

Take it higher, you have to ask from the very top, who hung noodles about 70% rearmament and readiness, and covered them even higher, knowing about the real state of affairs.

[Machito]

Quote from Silver99

Hard shots, even if half of the media's coming out is nonsense, only for this video from the battalion commander you need to tear off shoulder straps and send privates to the tank ((((

From the battalion? Maybe even tear off the shoulder straps from the rank and file and demote them to recruits? For such art, you need to rip off the shoulder straps from the generals.

[Nikolay310]

Well, how much can you hide? they hid everything near Kyiv, in other places ... here are ours (if they are ours, of course) Mur ... the hellish ones still won’t understand where they are ... even a fool is able to learn something in a year of war .. .and these, it seems ...

until they begin to punish, albeit in no way Pavlov, but with the complete deprivation of everything and everyone, this parquet fool will continue to thoughtlessly destroy our guys ...

but as practice shows, all these eternally innocent Lapins, Muradovs, Serdyukovs do not even get a demotion ...

as Shariy wrote with restraint (whom I personally believe by a maximum of 30 percent), there have been some successes near Ugledar near Ukr ... I don’t know how the successes are, but the fact that our "offensive in all directions" to put it mildly has reached a dead end there. ..there would be no need to "plannedly regroup" with such generals ...

these guys, of course, pulled off part of the ukrov reserves ... as Murz correctly noted, a significant part of the successes near Artyomovsk of one structure is precisely due to the fact that such obscure guys die in such general adventures ... is this Artyomovsk worth SUCH victims ?? ? I'm not sure ... especially since after Artyomovsk there will be no breakthrough of the front, but we will run into the next fortified area ... and the potential collapse of the front near Ugledar may well lead to a negative offensive with serious consequences

[bairat]

it’s just that such unknown guys die in such general adventures

Unknown guys, it looks like our Tatarstan "Alga" ...

[Void]

Aptly.
For example, articles about lawlessness over those mobilized in the DPR, which have been exaggerated for a week, are silent here.

[Vend]

And from what here again the same rake? Russia is not fighting natives, but Western professionals. The military machine of the collective West is working at full capacity. So that's what happens. The enemy is strong, as in 1941.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Wend

Russia is not fighting natives, but Western professionals.

Russia, yes, but it seems that some amazing commanders "in the ranks of the RF Armed Forces do not think so.

[Foundling]

To roll out onto an open attached field here and the natives will be happy.

[Alexander Levchenko]

We will fight with professionals when 8000 tamahawks fly at the same time, but for now it's all kindergarten

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

When the war machine of the collective west is in full swing, you will immediately know. Comparing the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the Wehrmacht-1941 is straightforward ... I can’t pick up words.

[Alekseev]

Quote: kaufman

I thought they wouldn't write about it here.

Write something written, but about what?
How it was? Judging by the photo, the tanks are not in battle order and it doesn’t look like the defeat of a column on the march ...
As if pulled into one place, but this is not a concentration area ...
Maybe covered during refueling or replenishment of ammunition?
Some questions .... there is no exact information, including our "informants".

[gsev]

Quote: Alekseev

Judging by the photo, the tanks are not in battle order and it doesn’t look like the defeat of a column on the march ...

They have been trying to storm Ugledar since last spring. All fields are littered with mines. The Armed Forces of Ukraine have installed ATGMs on high-rises and correct artillery fire and fire from ATGMs. In addition, NATO space intelligence. This is either a war of drones or aviation or precision weapons or thermonuclear. Otherwise, Russians in Crimea and Donbas cannot be saved from the Ukrainian genocide and from the ban on the Russian language. An example of the Baltic States before my eyes. Strelkov has been surprised since the summer by the incessant attacks in one place, followed by defeat and retreat.

[Alekseev]

"Trying to storm"
In military terms, not to storm, but to take.
Storming (fortresses) is more for civilians.
But most of all, the question worries why they didn’t take it, what’s the matter?
First of all, "some civilians" are called the perpetrators of some
generals whose names I learned from the media but I have no idea about their qualities, specific actions and the situation in which the same gene. Lapii et acted. I'm not saying that all generals are good, the history of wars, and my personal experience refutes this.
But .. in order to say for sure, you need to know exactly "what is being done there

[Alekseev]

Didn't let me add
For comparison. Losses of the 3rd Guards. TA in technology from 1943 to 1945, that is, this is one of the best naked TAs and not at all the beginning of the war, amounted to 7 staff numbers. The enemy was strong, not a gene. Rybalko (it was he who was appointed commander of the tank forces after the war) is bad
In war, as in war

[Alekseev]

"Strelkov is surprised ...." "ATGMs were installed on high-rise buildings"
Do not think that Girkin - Strelkov is so smart, and the rest are really stupid ....
Thinking and talking is one thing, but actually achieving success is quite another.
It's a complicated equation.
When G.K. Zhukov was asked why many of our military scientists could not successfully command the fronts and armies, he said: they considered it difficult what was actually simple (roughly speaking, arrows on the maps), and the most difficult was the training of troops to carry out a particular operation, for example, choosing a breakthrough site, evaluating which he had to personally "crawl on his belly"
And if there are ATGMs on the skyscrapers, then they need to be destroyed ...
Or does the clerk of the comment think that the commanders do not know?
Chatting is not tossing bags ....

[Bayun]

They say there is a Russian-American "molotov-ribbentrop" in the country-U. Maybe they are lying, but this version is damn accurate and indecently logically explains the "strangeness" of what is happening.

[Peter rybak]

And I'm surprised that the number of broken equipment is reported, but the killed boys are not.

[Privet]

And what is written here and most importantly by whom!

[Expert2023]

Now fighting couch housewives and "experts" will tell in the comments how to fight

[krops777]

Now fighting couch housewives and "experts" will tell in the comments how to fight

Do you consider this normal? No art support, no air support, no electronic warfare to turn everything off so that the drones don’t fly and there is no communication, no reconnaissance, no elementary positions at night, there is only one capacious word for this - gouging. The saddest thing is that none of the generals will answer for this.

[Prokop_Pork]

The fact that it is not necessary to fight like that, even a baby will say. And here even the General Staff will have nothing to object to.
It was necessary to deal with the coal command in the fall. And the fact that they didn’t figure it out is now worth a lot of blood.

[zelenyi stepph]

Not with the coal command, but with the General Staff and the Ministry of Defense. Stalin was not afraid of personnel changes (and I'm not talking about 37 now), but here everything suits everyone. Why is it impossible, as he did, to take the best and self-correcting officer, and give him a branch of service or even a branch? Under the current leadership during the Second World War, it would definitely not be Kuznetsov who commanded the fleet, and it would not be Zhukov who was the chief of the General Staff.

[Sid2014]

Sofa experts sometimes know even more than those who plan in the Moscow Region. They forgot the beginning of the NVO., RETREAT FROM Kyiv, KUPYANSK, IZYUM, huge losses of equipment, etc. This was planned by the MO experts! Yesterday, Kots said on KP radio that the defense at Kharkovsky was directed only on PAPER! This led to the Kupyanskaya tragedy. And the sofa experts probably planned it !!!? Or someone else?

[Nikolay310]

Well, with the defense of Kharkov, you can still understand (but not forgive) ... it was not the generals who came up with the idea that mobilization should not be carried out, but some "professionals" who, with the first shot of the ukrov, began to scatter ... get into such an adventure with such forces ...

but for the fact that even after a year you are not able to learn anything from the word, you absolutely need to be thrown out of the army, but it is advisable to judge ... and not give three stars of the hero for taking Pavlovka, which is unnecessary to anyone, which is located in a lowland ... these are " the heroes "and went on wandering ... just like the heroic hero of the THREE TIMES crossing the Donets near Belogorovka ... who is not to blame for anything in Elder Edda ...

[alexmach]

.not the generals came up with the idea that mobilization should not be carried out, but some "professionals" would suffice, who, with the first shot of the ukrov, began to scatter

And who do you think came up with that? What do you think if the General Staff stood up and said "it's impossible to attack with the same number of troops, you can only show off on the effect of surprise" that they wouldn't listen or what?

[Alexey Koshkarov]

By the way, sofa experts didn’t blow a single offensive

[aglet]

"Now fighting couch housewives and "experts" will tell in the comments how to fight"
perhaps they know better than Gerasimov, Surovikin, Shoigu, and others like them. it is high time for these characters to take off their shoulder straps, voluntarily, without waiting for the verdict of the tribunal

[ivan1979nkl]

Now fighting couch housewives and "experts" will tell

you don’t have to be a deep couch analyst to understand that it’s undesirable to attack like this, to put it mildly

[Alexander_Dneprovsky]

Well, judging by the result of the CBO, it is quite possible that they know more.

[Dreamboat]

Couch experts have no say. You know how better - go show me. As Prigogine told Strelkov. And to be clever (would have written worse, but everyone here is "in tears" and complaining to the moderator that one of the "girls" was insulted) without taking your butt off the couch is the last thing. All the more so to inflate a tantrum over a muddy, edited video presented by the enemy.

[Skif]

No, these are not sofas and not housewives minus you! There are, you know, specially trained people. And on this resource they feel at home. This resource is littered with Ukrainians, like a public toilet at a railway station in Kyiv.

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

The next stage of breaking through the bottom will be to say that bmpd's comments in LJ are littered with Ukrainians.

[yho]

"War is too serious a matter to be entrusted to the military." - Charles Maurice de Talleyrand-Périgord.

[Romanenko]

Someone still continues to play soldiers.
Like Tolstoy - Erste column march, color the column march ...
Who will answer?

[not the one]

I am tormented by vague doubts that someone will answer ...

[Nikolay310]

why don't they answer? They left Kharkov without electricity again ... how will this bring our victory closer? right, no way ... but the patriots will rejoice, they are beautiful ...

[alexmach]

They left Kharkov without electricity again ... how will this bring our victory closer? right, no way.

Well, why would that be. The destruction of the enemy's infrastructure also helps the troops. Well, at least for a day, rail transportation across Ukraine is disorganized, and this, among other things, is a war that was not promptly transferred to the theater ..

[Skif]

But didn’t you prepare Swifts in Kharkov?

[Synoid]

machine in hand and show how it is necessary. Secondly, what are fakes to discuss?

[Nikolay310]

show what??? how to build tanks in a column? at least with your little mind you can understand that it’s not the infantry Vasya, as you are trying to give out in your jingoistic patriotism ... but in the big-star generals ...

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

Who is responsible for the terrible tragic mistakes? Surnames.

[Kuziming]

Lieutenant Oak, who had been struck in the head by a terrible fuselage, tapping his finger on the table, for no reason turned to Captain Sagner:

“The district chief and I always said: “Patriotism, loyalty to duty, self-improvement are the real weapons in the war.” I remind you of this precisely today, when our troops will cross the borders in a short time.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote from starina

First you need to learn how to write in Russian.

Thanks for the recommendations. I recommend you to learn the rules of the Russian language. Where, for example, is a capital letter at the beginning of a sentence?

[Eug]

Usually, the arriving bosses suffer from this, eager to intensify hostilities under his leadership.

[AdAstra]

Say, our generals have learned or are learning to fight, well, well ... And in general, this is not news, but continuous "discredit".

[Anatoly 288]

In the beginning, as Morgunov advised, you need to practice on cats

[yho]

I read that NATO members work out tactics on computer video simulators, then at training grounds. And how is it with us, fall on ten rounds, they will let them shoot from a crooked machine gun and that's it? All these ostentatious exercises have little in common with real combat operations. In my opinion, the experience gained in Syria cannot be extrapolated to the fighting in Ukraine. There were gangs of poorly armed militants, and then there was a modern trained army.

[lopvlad]

Quote from AdAstra

And it's not news at all, but a complete "discredit".

just a mistake of the next commander of the formation. The main thing is that now this is not massively like it was in the first months of the NWO.

[Nikolay310]

and this operation was also planned by the "unit commander" to go head-on across the bare steppe to the Ukrovsky UR ??? chose the "direction to strike" ...

[yho]

So, Shoigu is probably in charge of the operation from Moscow ... he can’t see from there that there is a lowland. Kadyrov has already made a remark to Lapin that his headquarters was 150 km from the front.

[Uprun]

The mark for someone's unlearned lesson is written in the blood of our guys, the technique - God bless it, and in peacetime it burned a lot on the military unit. Sorry guys. Checkers, and he was not the only one who made the decision, to answer, the war will write everything off - it should not work.

[Severok]

No matter how society demands that those responsible be held accountable, practice shows that the perpetrators of the needless death of our guys, the perpetrators of the collapse of the rear of the army, did not answer for anything. This irresponsibility is the most powerful discredit of the RF Armed Forces.

[panov_panov]

The smart ones learn from the mistakes of others, the fools never.

[Alexey Sommer]

Sounds a little different.
Geniuses learn from the mistakes of others, ordinary people learn from their own, fools never.

[Vladimir M]

Why does our military command not use the tactics of the Ukrainians when they forced us to leave the Kharkiv region? After all, everything was simple. To cover and enter our rear, they sent mobile groups along country roads, and when ours began to retreat, they were already hit in the forehead by the main forces of their brigades. We, after a year of the Strange Military Operation, continue to attack head-on, as if nothing had happened.

[Alexey Sommer]

Yesterday Margarita Simonyan told you in Russian; We did not expect the Ukrainians to resist.)
A very significant part of our political elite is not able to adequately assess the situation.
This is the result of 20 years of targeted negative selection, when someone's deputy should be able to lick the authorities well and, God forbid, he will be smarter than his leader.

[Vladimir M]

This means that it is necessary to purge the Army of those who, as a result of "negative selection", climbed into high positions before it was too late. And you need to start with the reindeer breeder.

[lis-ik]

Quote: Vladimir M

And you need to start with the reindeer breeder.

There you have to start from the very top, but there is no one.

[Ivan Ivanov_36]

And who will clean it? I'm 99% sure that Putin, as a manager and leader, is greatly overrated. He is inert, passive. Think 100 times and do nothing. His whole policy is based on his personal character and qualities. If there had been a tough, irreconcilable character, perhaps it would have been better. But he is soft, kind, trusting and touchy. But he won't kick himself out.

[yho]

But he is soft, kind, trusting and touchy.

I keep wondering how he got into the KGB and worked there with such a character?

[Ivan Ivanov_36]

Apparently, other pluses leveled these minuses. But in politics, the pluses from the KGB were not needed.

But everything can be much more prosaic. While serving in Dresden, he was recruited by German intelligence of the FRG. She helped him come to power. Putin jumped out like a devil out of a snuffbox into the presidential chair. Such a career is enviable. Then began manic investments in the German economy and the supply of cheap gas, pipelines.
Hence such actions in the NWO, in the economy. One step forward, two steps back.

But all this is from the field of conspiracy theology.

[yho]

Margarita Simonyan said; We did not expect Ukrainians to resist

“They didn’t think”, “didn’t know”, “didn’t expect”… Is this what our elite is? Well, if THIS is the elite… then what can we say about the rest…

[Sid2014]

To send mobile groups, you need to have them with equipment and weapons. Mobilization and superiority in this is on the side of Ukraine! We have NO mobilization, and 300 tsyuys is just to plug a hole at the front! I'll write sedition, but I'm tormented
question inside? What will happen when Ukraine treats equipment and additional mobilized ???

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: Sid2014

I'll write sedition, but I'm tormented
question inside? What will happen when Ukraine treats equipment and additional mobilized ???

Will be accepted: Difficult decision.

[yho]

We have NO mobilization, but 300 tsyuys is just to plug a hole at the front

[Nikolay310]

maybe because the Ukrainians have NATO satellite intelligence, and Russia has "100 successful launches in a row" it is not clear why and for what ???

[Vladimir M]

All these "100 successful launches in a row" have a last name and a first name ...

[trenkkvaz]

Stop driving nonsense about the fact that it is possible to win the war with mobile groups, citing the Ukrainian operation in the Kharkov region as an example.
This is a unique case, since the enemy attacked where there was actually no defense.
There were no dense battle formations on our side.
Now there is a high density of defense at the front on both sides and no mobile groups can do anything.
Why are Ukrainians now, if they are so good at using mobile groups, not advancing further? But because the whole shop was closed and such a trick will no longer work.

[Vladimir M]

And that now there are "dense battle formations" along the entire length of the front. Where? There has never been and is not a continuous line of defense, for this there are simply not so many people, both on one side and on the other. Defense is organized only in settlements and on the main roads. The Ukrainians did not advance with their mobile groups, they bypassed our strongholds along the country roads, and only then they advanced with their brigades on our strongholds.

[Sebostyuan]

These why - you can make a whole list.
The answer will be one. Ukrainians have been preparing for war for 8 years and use any cash.
What did the generalisimo and the General Staff do? Do we use all means or continue to play the game: We are not like that, we are good?

[yho]

Why does our military command not use the tactics of the Ukrainians when they forced us to leave the Kharkiv region?

Probably because the Ukrainians are on their own land, they know every bush, and they have well-established intelligence.

[d.zacharith]

Apparently, this is not taught in the higher military academies

[White AK]

Again 155 unwound how to fight with such commanders. Eternal memory to the soldiers.

[svp67]

Quote: White AK

Again 155 unwound

Maybe. She has a tank battalion on the T-80BV, which are shown here, but the infantry received the BMP-3, and here is the BMP-2 in the video

[Nikolay310]

really...and what happened? and what happened near Belogorovka when crossing the Donets? after all, there was an excellent combat unit ... only there were no excellent combat generals ...

[White AK]

BMP 3s almost ran out, and only one name remained from the brigade, the marines to storm the city should be sent to the academy to graduate from Laos.

[Expert2023]

Quote from AdAstra

Did you think we had no losses during the "grinding"?

In general, I would recommend to learn unity from the Ukrainians.

Whatever w% pa they have at the front, they all support the army and leadership.

We have nowhere to put snot and squeals after a tactical defeat

[dmi.pris1]

You rightly noticed, solidarity .. Is it possible to defeat a united people? The same Russians, by and large for the most part?

[Nikolay310]

the Germans were in the 41st united no less than ukrov ... and it turned out to be possible to defeat them ... only for this it took the Supreme Commander and generals who either studied during the war, like Konev, or ...
well, and a mobilized economy with the slogan everything for the front, everything for victory ...

with the planet of pink ponies it is impossible to win...

[Woodman]

Quote: Nikolay310

only for this, the Supreme Commander and generals were needed, who either studied during the war, like Konev, or ...

And more than 20 million lives, and the country is in ruins from the western borders to the Volga and Moscow. That study cost us dearly. Very expensive. And until the 41st it turns out they were hoping

Quote: Nikolay310

with the planet of pink ponies win

?

[dnestr74]

Of course they support, if not, for 15 years in jail, if you're lucky, ...

[Nikolay310]

what kind of unprecedented unity among Ukrainians? do not remind me where the children of the same Danilov rally?

Russia occupied Kherson for half a year, and "solid Ukrainians" behaved calmly and even went for passports ...

maybe just the enemy needs to be beaten? and not for substations, leaving the Russian Kharkiv and Odessa without light and water, but for those who walk around Kherson and Izyum immediately after the "planned ahead of schedule" ... okay, you don’t offend Zelensky like a boy when they gave the word to naphthalene, but can you hit the Danilovs, Kims, Yermaks and other Lucy? Or maybe there is simply no such goal? the thoughtless bombing of the same Kharkov for the NVO did much more to turn this city into a Bandera one than 30 years of Ukrainian propaganda ...

and the cohesion of society and the constant covering up for the mediocrity of the generals are different things ... how do you think this "cohesion" of yours should look like? Did you break the column three times when crossing the Donets? so what?

[alexmach]

what kind of unprecedented unity among Ukrainians?

Seen-unprecedented, and their society for the most part is really united and psychologically mobilized at the moment, unlike the Russian one.

[Woodman]

Quote: Expert2023

Whatever w% pa they have at the front, they all support the army and leadership.

Otherwise, censorship and repressive apparatus work. Maybe they need to learn from them too.

[cmax]

Quote: Expert2023

We have nowhere to put snot and squeals after a tactical defeat

Your "tactical defeat" will soon be a year old and listing such tactical defeats already takes up a whole page. Maybe it's time to learn how to use this general in the war what they were taught in the academies! Or is it incurable?

[single-n]

The network is full of videos of demonstration executions to increase cohesion. And the number of those who fled to the ends of the world also demonstrates "the unity of the party and the people." I'm silent about who has been fighting in the Donbas for 8 years. You can also see HOW 20 years in Ukraine they cleaned up dissenters. This is not 15 days for you for a glass. People just disappeared there.

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

Ahaha. Obviously, you have never been to the Ukrainian forums or Ukrainian branches in waronline. There, only ordinary fighters and junior commanders are beyond criticism, well, this is how it is with us. And the leadership is scolded even cleaner than ours.

[Shamil88]

I was downvoted when I wrote about it, how can you ride like that for the 12th month of NWO? it became clear to any idiot during all this time that intelligence works perfectly for the Ukrainians, how it is possible to advance in columns without keeping a distance, how they stand at the red color of a traffic light so that it is convenient to cover, through minefields, more than 30 pieces of equipment, terrible shots, like us in general were going to fight with NATO? Stalin did the right thing by shooting incompetent generals

[USIKPA]

And how do you order to drive through the minefield? Fan?

[d.zacharith]

Why, in general, drive through a minefield? There are sappers, IMR, the same Gorynych snakes ...

[Sanguinius]

There, not only artillery worked against ours ... quite a few equipment was knocked out due to a collision with anti-tank mines.
Condolences to the fallen Marine brothers

[Mazunga]

I don’t know, maybe a spy sits at our headquarters and gives such orders for a year as a specialist, then they should have already beaten off the habit of driving in columns

[NAF-NAF]

I'm afraid these spies have very famous names to call them here...

[Vladimir80]

If he sits, then he is not alone - around him are the same ones covering him ... It all starts with the usual lies ...

[Normann]

In war, losses are inevitable, especially when the enemy outnumbers you in intelligence...

[Nikolay310]

but don’t tell me, who prevented Russia from establishing satellite reconnaissance? who prevented the army from saturating the army with drones? there was money ... the Abramovichs had enough for 15 yachts, but not for satellites? well, well ... oh, what a bad enemy, he didn’t conduct parades with exhibitions of analogues of crafts, but he set up reconnaissance ... and we thought that we would go out like Peresvet with Chelubey and find out who is cooler ...

[Normann]

And did I say that someone interfered? And why do you think that

.and we thought that we would go out like Peresvet with Chelubey and find out who is cooler ...

Who are "we????

[yho]

there was money ... the Abramovichs had enough for 15 yachts

So the money of the oligarchs, not the state. Break the habit of counting other people's money. The Russian treasury is scarce.

[rafat]

This is OUR MONEY, my, my parents, my ancestors of those who lived on this earth, and the quirky Abramoviches and their ilk red-haired devils swagger yachts clubs buy there. It is wrong that not a single oligarch openly supported ugh, God forgive me.

[MeVED]

Is the treasury scarce? And the oligarchs can’t count the dough? Is poverty on the rise? I have vague doubts...

[Expert2023]

Quote: krops777

Now fighting couch housewives and "experts" will tell in the comments how to fight

Do you consider this normal? Neither art support, nor from the air, nor electronic warfare to turn everything off so that the drones do not fly and there is no communication, nor is it elementary to take positions at night, there is only one capacious word for this - gouging.

I doubt reaching the age of majority for those who naively believe that there is a certain set of rules by following which you can forever save yourself from losses.

War is a bunch of variables. Learn to accept reality. grow up

[MeVED]

Get your mind together, go tell the parents of the murdered guys about reality.

[Sebostyuan]

It's a shame to admit that a year later the NWO continue to command - unteachable. (Although there are those who say - the soldiers are to blame, they are not shaved and with phones)

The problem is not only this. Mines - make you ride and walk one after another. 10 mine sweeps instead of one made it possible to attack on a wide front.

[yho]

10 mine sweeps instead of one made it possible to carry out an attack on a wide front

Why not 100?

[Zhopir Tumanov]

To be fair, everything is booby-trapped there, and small groups, I assume, will constantly run into mines on different trails. And you never know what other circumstances were there. Moving in columns is not only the whim of the generals, although I do not deny their guilt

Another question is why attack the Ugledar ledge at all? Pull back the enemy forces or capture the city? It seems that we partially cope with the first task

[AdAstra]

You say mines, but where, let me ask, are our remote demining machines, huh?

[Epaulettes]

Quote from AdAstra

You say mines, but where, let me ask, are our remote demining machines, huh?

Beautiful reports.

[Zhopir Tumanov]

They help the Wagnerites advance near Bakhmut

[stels_07]

Don't you watch parades? Your text

[Nikolay310]

and to delay the forces for what? so that Wagner would be taken by Artyomovsk and Prigogine would say that the prisoners fight better than the guards? this is why they are fighting because they put the guards in such a place in order to tear apart the reserves of ukrov ...

Is Artyomovsk worth such losses? doubtful...

[DefenderofTruth]

As long as there is no death penalty in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation for all grave and especially grave crimes, especially military ones in wartime, and the NKVD, SMERSH and military Tribunals do not work as under Stalin, these crimes and victims will be repeated again and again, without end.

[Alexander Soviet Union]

Stop studying history from war films made by Russian filmmakers. Except how to denigrate, curse, slander our past and expose the NKVD officers as villains, more terrible than the Nazi Sonderkommandos, they did not pursue any other goal. The picture is out of place

[yho]

Nothing will be given to the execution, because the innocent will suffer as always. We need smart heads. Stalin understood this, so he kept Shaposhnikov, an officer in the tsarist army, with him. "Cadres decide everything."

[ximkim]

Yes, the column was deliberately jeopardized. The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is running straight to help the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

[Aleprok]

underestimating the enemy leads to sad results ... mistakes in war are always sad. In general, the slicing is somehow strange - it seems that they inserted frames from different places, and there is no complete picture, if the copter was filming - show the whole video then ... it looks like a fake

[Alexander Soviet Union]

Not that it looks like, but it is a clear fake!

[2 Level Advisor]

I want you Alexander and those who leave similar comments to answer with a joke:
"Dad and son came to the sea. They are walking along the shore.
Sonny, shaking his head: "Dad, where is the sea?"
Dad: "Here, son, you see - water splashes, fish swim, this is
sea."
Sonny, drooling: "Dad, where is the sea?"
Dad: "Yes, son, the steamer floats, seagulls fly, sand
yellowish - this is the sea. "
Son: "Dad, where is the sea?"
Papa’s nerves can’t stand it, he takes his son by the scruff of his neck and pokes his face in
sea ​​water: "Here! Here! Here is the sea !!!"
Son: "Daddy, what was that?"

[Alien From]

An old joke, but completely true.

[Fedor1]

probably now they are thinking how to comment on this in the official department and we will find out very soon, even if they remain silent, it will become clear

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

Underestimation of the enemy? We scold the command, but isn't our site itself one continuous hotbed of underestimation? Every second article in the style of "a Bulgarian newspaper let it slip that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have already lost 100500 Leopards," and comments to match.

[Nikolay310]

yes, of course ... this is a fake schoolboy ... but in fact, our troops are already approaching Zaporozhye ... everything is correct ... and tomorrow at 4 pm we will take Warsaw ... how is Baron Munchausen? at 10 o'clock a feat? let me just find out, did we regroup from Balakleya and Kherson according to the plan? Or ahead of schedule?

[optimist007]

Again - "on the same rake": a video of the impact of artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on a column of Russian armored vehicles near Ugledar appeared on the Web

... Even from a young age, I was convinced that there is no event in the world that the newspaper would truthfully tell about ...
D. Orwell "Remembering the war in Spain"

[Konnick]

The situation near Ugledar is very complicated, there are fierce battles.

Just as the 155th Marine Brigade of the Pacific Fleet and the 40th Brigade fought, so they are fighting near Ugledar, as if they are extreme, and the rest are watching ... Especially the "valiant" aviation.
The 14th special forces brigade is sent to attack Vuhledar. And where are the vaunted maroon berets? Protect against the people with paper cups. All this is sad ... 35 armored vehicles in 35 minutes ... There is no Mehlis on them.
They mobilized ... the Armed Forces of Ukraine have new goals. Our mobilized are sitting in dugouts and are constantly waiting for shelling. Sense as from a goat's milk.

[aleks_29296]

Mehlis is such an example. He was also the commander.

[Konnick]

Mehlis is such an example. He was also the commander.

He was not in command. He brought the commanders to their senses.
Ask how he put Vinogradov, the commander of the 44th division, against the wall, the analogy simply suggests itself, Vinogradov also ruined his division in the column.

[yho]

In 1942, in the Crimea, he only interfered, creating unnecessary nervousness at the headquarters in an already difficult situation.

[Expert2023]

Quote from Sebostyuan

It's a shame to admit that a year later the NWO continue to command - unteachable. (Although there are those who say - the soldiers are to blame, they are not shaved and with phones)

The problem is not only this. Mines - make you ride and walk one after another. 10 mine sweeps instead of one made it possible to attack on a wide front.

If you're offended, don't admit it. well, or admit it - it does not affect anything at all

[Dart2027]

The question is whether this video is real or fake.

[Egeny]

So I already talked about this, after a year of war it is time to learn how to fight.
And the tanks that they have, that we have ... are the same.

[Nikolay310]

let me know, is the year of the war only among Russian generals? Do the Ukrainians have some other reckoning? Or do you think they are incapable of learning?

Khodakovsky wrote for a long time that the offensive was choking ... what did you say then? but who is he to listen to him ... well, turn on Konashenkov ... in three days he may be born another "ahead of schedule" ...

[Jorg-2]

Any of our failures is fake, any victory is true.
It's time to grow up

[Dart2027]

Quote: Jorg-2

Any of our failures is fake, any victory is true.

Any message about our successes is a fake, any message from the Armed Forces of Ukraine about the successes is true?

[ocean969]

I also think that this is a compilation video, editing, firstly, secondly, where you counted 30 tanks, I counted 3 tanks and 2 infantry fighting vehicles, and filmed from different angles. Turn on your brain, little ones.

[AdAstra]

But three tanks and 2 infantry fighting vehicles are not a pity? It's a pity only when 30?

[Dart2027]

That is, the fact that the news is a lie is not interesting to you.

[Volunteer Marek]

I will not advise how to fight. But, here I advise you to investigate this crime (and this crime) in the most thorough way. An open, demonstrative, court-martial would not hurt either. A year of war is coming! ... Or, no - CBO ...

[iljael]

What an investigation, but here, just for a link about this tragedy in Russia, comments have been rubbed for half a year!

[krex pax]

And how to conduct an offensive in general, if the concentration of troops is detected from space. The coordinates are transmitted, drones fly out there and correct the fire of artillery and hymers. And just without space, drones are constantly on duty. After all, it is an almost impossible task to concentrate a grouping for an attack. Only some kind of global electronic warfare jammer can help. Generals can be made extreme all the time, but this will not solve the problem.

[Konnick]

if the concentration of troops is detected from space.

Why are you all nodding at the satellites, they cannot see through the clouds ... enough drones.

[yho]

There are also those who "see" through the clouds, and even in the forest they will find hidden tanks.

[Konnick]

came under attack from the guns of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, striking from a hill and perfectly controlling the situation.

So these positions are like three poplars on Plyushchikha ... i.e. we know about it, but we don’t destroy it, we don’t have artillery and aviation, but only infantry and tanks ...
I don’t believe that the guns are on direct fire, someone is lying, as always, in his defense, and the footage shows that they drove into a minefield. Surovikin...ay

[Expert2023]

Quote from DefenderofTruth

As long as there is no death penalty in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation for all grave and especially grave crimes, especially military ones in wartime, and the NKVD, SMERSH and military Tribunals do not work as under Stalin, these crimes and victims will be repeated again and again, without end.

,, I will please all the local shamans at once, demanding to call Stalin and resurrect SMERSH.

First of all, they will send these ,, shamans, - alarmists to the front, some will be shot for alarmism

[Dart2027]

Quote: Expert2023

First of all, they will send these ,, shamans, - alarmists to the front, some will be shot for alarmism

And they don't think about it.

[Epaulettes]

Of course, again, because the NGSH was put in charge again, which planned the beginning of the NWO in such a way that they entered the same beautiful columns and rowed even then.

And some here are still tearing their throats for the resumption of mobilization. For what? To ditch our mobilized in beautiful columns?

[Vladimir80]

Here a suspicion arises that the goals are completely opposite to those declared, but taking into account my warnings, I will not voice them ...

[Epaulettes]

Quote: Vladimir80

Here a suspicion arises that the goals are completely opposite to those declared, but taking into account my warnings, I will not voice them ...

I understood you. I know what you want to say. And I agree with you.

[Jager]

If this is not a transfer of reserves along a rocade, but an "offensive", then you should be shot for this. They opened the column according to the classics of the summer of 1941.

[Nikolay310]

in the summer of the 41st, we didn’t have air supremacy ... and now General Ko-ko-ko “captured” dominance early in the morning on February 24 ...

By the way, yesterday a Russian Mishka was shot down there ... the pilots were saved ...

[Expert2023]

Quote: Shoulder straps

Of course, again, because the NGSH was put in charge again, which planned the beginning of the NWO in such a way that they entered the same beautiful columns and rowed even then.

And some here are still tearing their throats for the resumption of mobilization. For what? To ditch our mobilized in beautiful columns?

Your suggestions? Only without duty slogans ok?

[Epaulettes]

Quote: Expert2023

Quote: Shoulder straps

Of course, again, because the NGSH was put in charge again, which planned the beginning of the NWO in such a way that they entered the same beautiful columns and rowed even then.

And some here are still tearing their throats for the resumption of mobilization. For what? To ditch our mobilized in beautiful columns?

Your suggestions? Only without duty slogans ok?

Forget about any attacks. Get on the defensive. Build fortified areas. And let the Armed Forces of Ukraine smash his forehead about them. The Armed Forces of Ukraine cannot not attack - they have been given the task of freeing everything that Russia has occupied. But it is always more difficult for the attackers than for those who hold the defense. And the losses of the attackers are higher. At the same time, it is time to attract absolutely all conscripts to participate in the SVO. Six months of training - and for six months in the NWO zone. To the very lands we defend. After all, according to the Constitution of the land of Russia, conscripts can be used there. On the defensive.

Simply put, I propose to adopt the experience of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which in 8 years brought hundreds of thousands of people through the ATO, thereby, as we can see, they prepared a fully combat-ready army by the beginning of the NMD.

But since we have a higher human reserve, and not attack, as I wrote above, the Armed Forces of Ukraine cannot, sooner or later they will completely break into our fortified areas. And then it will be possible to think about our offensive.

[Kaufman]

Purely technically, I would agree with you, this is correct. But I'm afraid that with our declining economy, we can't afford to waste time.

[Epaulettes]

Quote: kaufman

Purely technically, I would agree with you, this is correct. But I'm afraid that with our declining economy, we can't afford to waste time.

And I have already written many times that the position of zugzwang ...
We cannot stall for time. What can we do? Declare a general mobilization and valuable millions of lives to break Ukraine? OK. And then who will restore all this and with what funds, if millions of workers died, what will affect both the country's economy and its demography? Do we need a Pyrrhic victory?

[Alien From]

Let me ask you, what can we afford? Question without sarcasm

[Kaufman]

What do you think? There is no obvious progress. Regression both in the conduct of SVO and regression in the economy. I honestly don't know what to do in the current situation.
They did not switch to the ruble, although they rejoiced in the summer! Not really needed the ruble.
Europe did not freeze over the winter - although they talked a lot about it
Gasoline prices in the United States gladdened the hearts, gradually rolled back.
We have almost completely lost the levers of hydrocarbon pressure on the undesirable and the encouragement of the pleasing.
I really don't know what to do here.
Just believe and hope for victory

[Alien From]

Same story! Only from TV sick more and more!

[Victor Leningradets]

Giving full initiative to the enemy is tantamount to preparing for a front-line disaster when you don’t even have time to regroup.

[alexey_444]

How many times has it been said that there will be no tank breakthroughs and other things of Brusilovsky, we are slowly squeezing out the orcs, and we are marking time not because of agreements or the stupidity of the generals, our enemy has superiority in critical places (intelligence, shooting accuracy). Therefore, Belogorovka will be repeated until our superiority in manpower and technology ends. The only way we can advance is if every day a thousand lancets are launched, hundreds of accurate, smart bombs, missiles, red-field centimeters, etc. DAILY! But this is other money, all our people will have to get up to the machines, for assembly and for little money, the ammunition itself is expensive in terms of components. Instead, dumb-headed propaganda spews all sorts of nonsense except the truth - we are no stronger than the orcs. We must already prepare the population for the Korean version, otherwise, again, as with the Istanbul negotiations, false patriots will brainwash the people that Putin leaked.

[Nikolay310]

what a horror, people will have to get up to the machines for little money ... but is there somewhere to stand up? Remind me of the list of closed ones with never and in no way guilty? how can the STATE, represented by Chemezov, sell the plant in Engels during the NWO? and about little money ... you might think before the SVO in Russia, salaries were huge ... the middle class was 17000, don’t remind me who said?

to stand behind the machine, you need firstly the machine itself ... secondly, even if there is a machine, what will the "effective consumer" do on it ??? your innocent 30 years of workers were reduced to the level of cattle, they destroyed vocational schools and technical schools, and they recruited lawyers in place of turners ...

"oh, who did that"??? apparently, Putin is not to blame again ... and all sorts of fursenks themselves came to the government, they themselves dragged education into the swamp system ...

[yho]

We must already prepare the population for the Korean version

They are already cooking - on TV they show how to eat caterpillars and grasshoppers.

[Expert2023]

Quote: alexey_444

How many times has it been said that there will be no tank breakthroughs and other things of Brusilovsky, we are slowly squeezing out the orcs, and we are marking time not because of agreements or the stupidity of the generals, our enemy has superiority in critical places (intelligence, shooting accuracy). Therefore, Belogorovka will be repeated until our superiority in manpower and technology ends. The only way we can advance is if every day a thousand lancets are launched, hundreds of accurate, smart bombs, missiles, red-field centimeters, etc. DAILY! But this is other money, all our people will have to get up to the machines, for assembly and for little money, the ammunition itself is expensive in terms of components. Instead, dumb-headed propaganda spews all sorts of nonsense except the truth - we are no stronger than the orcs. We must already prepare the population for the Korean version, otherwise, again, as with the Istanbul negotiations, false patriots will brainwash the people that Putin leaked.

Fall asleep and not get up from this opus entirely consisting of slogans is there something newer?

[aglet]

"Our command is again stepping on the same rake, sending armored vehicles to attack in open areas with unsuppressed enemy artillery"
yes cho there, women isho give birth! who's going to think? armageddon? Gerasimov-mumu? it’s even surprising that so few technicians sent, probably they didn’t have time to collect more

[AKsvlad047]

The question is that it is time to stop engaging in hat-taking and move on to full-fledged military operations, to full-fledged mobilization of society and the economy! The enemy uses not only its full potential, but also the NATO countries. No matter how much you would like it, but you need to face the truth that there is a real war going on. For this reason, it is time to officially announce this to the whole country, so that no one in society has the illusion that the war is being waged by the West for the complete destruction of Russia, which their leaders do not hesitate to speak to the whole world!

[Nikolay310]

do you really think that a character who has nothing to do during CBO but open a turkey farm can get off the planet of pink ponies? sorry, even Nicholas II understood responsibility and tried to do something ... but the current one is better to listen to Belozerov's fables, how his freight traffic by rail is growing ... well, celebrate anniversaries of various events ... to which he has nothing to do ...

[Expert2023]

Quote: AKsvlad047

The question is that it is time to stop engaging in hat-taking and move on to full-fledged military operations, to full-fledged mobilization of society and the economy! The enemy uses not only its full potential, but also the NATO countries. No matter how much you would like it, but you need to face the truth that there is a real war going on. For this reason, it is time to officially announce this to the whole country, so that no one in society has the illusion that the war is being waged by the West for the complete destruction of Russia, which their leaders do not hesitate to speak to the whole world!

There are 3 fundamental reasons due to which the rapid implementation of the stated goals of the NWO is impossible.

1) Russians and Ukrainians are one people
2) The main and main goal of the Special Military Operation is the unification of 2 parts of one people.
3) The “Special operation” mode, and not “War”, proceeds from the first two points and no other status will be assigned to this process

[Vladimir80]

I wonder if you believe this yourself when you write this?

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Expert2023

1) Russians and Ukrainians are one people
2) The main and main goal of the Special Military Operation is the unification of 2 parts of one people.

1) something doesn’t look like the other half is longing for unification ..
2) based on the first, your points are meaningless.

[AKsvlad047]

If you want, you can call it a civil war, but it’s not CBO

[Likvid01]

Greetings, not all the video clips with the marines have been posted on the VO yet, I saw a few more videos, there is simply horror and purgatory, ours are shot like the wrong targets, their own armored vehicles crush their living ones when they try to retreat. Purgatory is terrible.

[Andron78]

Fake, don't get fooled, don't shit and don't be clever.

[Fedor1]

proofs that fake and everyone here will take their words of criticism back? what if it's not fake? then what will you answer?

[single-n]

There are a few inaccuracies in this video. The very first one was definitely filmed in one place? And they didn’t glue from 10 videos. And the second .... WHO POWED THERE? The fields are plowed.!!! AU people! Our troops have been standing under Ugledar since MARCH 2022!!! Are we allowed to plow there in peace? Are we clinical imbeciles or did someone go crazy? Did we ourselves allow the offensive zone to be narrowed down to a few roads? If so, then in our leadership it’s not just .......... but ........ and .............
Well, that's not the point.
The main evidence is that under Ugledar, a complete ass is the silence of our media. I was fiercely criticized here when I expressed surprise why we were stalling for several days while storming a tiny settlement. Now it looks like the answer has been received. As you can see from the video, there are no superdots there. And ordinary patches did not turn into impregnable fortresses. There are no visible mountain ranges. Everything is simple and banal. The Armed Forces of Ukraine mined the roads and provided surveillance from the UAV + interaction with artillery / MLRS.
It's strange why we don't do that. It can be seen that the RF Armed Forces have their own special path. Or the aura of the main temple of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is not enough here. After all, it was not in vain that so much money was spent on him, knowing that the war was on the verge. And in the tank biathlon, they somehow forgot to work out the organization of the march near the front line.
For the fact that their drones fly calmly over the column, special thanks must be expressed to the head of the electronic warfare. Preferably turning into severe bodily.

[RED_ICE]

Strelkov writes:
Since the defeat near Vuhledar is already widely known (many videos shot by drones of Kiev partners are posted on the network), I will have to comment separately (I didn’t want to do this before, as well as report losses).

It seems that all the events of the past year passed by our generals. However, since some of them are (at least from the moment they entered military schools) complete cretins, all the mistakes that were made before were exemplarily repeated. The advance of tank and motorized columns along narrow roads along rare forest plantations on ideally flat terrain (since there are minefields on the sides), not covered from the air and by EW forces, ended in defeat. Part of the equipment was destroyed by ATGM strikes (launched from the high-rise buildings of Ugledar), part was shot by enemy artillery, which fired extremely accurately. More than 30 units of armored vehicles were lost (I will not give a breakdown by type), losses of "two hundred" only among tankers - many dozens. Marines, special forces and motorized riflemen died even more. And - most importantly - all these losses turned out to be "one-sided" - the Ukrainians shot the attackers "like in a shooting range", our soldiers could not inflict counter losses on them. The enemy again without much difficulty held his positions in the fortified area, which had already been repeatedly attempted to take in the spring and summer of last year (also "head-on").

At the same time, our military leaders (so as not to "get up twice") habitually sent for slaughter in the familiar area in the Donetsk "industrial complex" (they went on the assault dozens of times) to Avdeevka "renamed the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation" battalions of the former NM of the DPR and volunteer units. Without supporting them with either normal artillery fire (which was extremely inaccurate), or armored vehicles (which were "protected from mines", and it was not possible to clear the area for technical reasons). They killed two more companies of assault infantry with the same result as before - that is, to no avail.

In general, this was the end of the "offensive of the Russian army on the entire Donetsk front" widely announced over the network by "cheers-military corps". Complemented by the rebellion (refusal to take the position) of the battalion of Tuvinian nomads and not only (in principle, I do not report anything about this kind of events until they are "leaked" by someone into the network and become publicly available).



https://vk.com/wall347260249_672986

[glock-17]

Another confirmation that the times of tank wedges have passed like the times of the phalanx. Generals seem to continue to fight the charters of past wars.

[single-n]

Generals seem to continue to fight the charters of past wars.

Charters, even during the Second World War, require before the start of the attack to suppress the enemy’s artillery and provide fire cover for their troops. Ensure RELIABLE and OPERATIONAL COMMUNICATION between units. Also conduct engineering reconnaissance for minefields and make numerous and wide passages in them to avoid crowding. Conduct CONTINUOUS reconnaissance. Apply camouflage measures and destroy enemy observers.
So it's not about the statutes. And in performers. 80% of Sun Tzu's stratagems are still applicable today. Although the manuscripts are a couple of thousand years old. Give a fool a glass .... hm .. tail ..., he will break the tail and cut his hands.

[nikniknik]

Well, parquet generals always remain on their own. God forbid this is fake. Just hard to believe. They have already put in Makiivka in the new year. Earlier in the Kyiv region, they laid down a whole paratrooper column. Did General Lapin suffer for this? No. In Makiivka, someone decided to show New Year's greetings. Who suffered from the authorities? No. Type military personnel are to blame, used the phones, found scapegoats. But nothing that military operations are going on nearby? Our fathers, the commanders, did not understand that this should not be allowed? Yes, our valiant mouthpiece generalis lieutenantovich cheerfully reports. However, not everything is so colorful. This case (if it is true, and the truth has leaked out) is not an isolated one. It seems that the Wagnerites and the like have more success than those who are under the "command" of our generals of the armies, waiting for the title of generalisimus

[Last centurion]

You need to be a complete moron to organize the movement of the column near the front. I am sure that this is done according to old textbooks. Gentlemen officers, put them on toilet paper already! This is a new war that has never been, a war where they hide, disguise and disperse. And everything that comes out and shines is immediately destroyed from both sides. Sad shots wherever it is. The rank and file, the youth, should also tell the fucked up old commanders that those old fuckers. Let them throw out their push-button phones and study the chronicle of transfers and regroupings

[lthce]

So modern warfare cannot be waged! This is slaughter! It is necessary to deprive communications, liquidate the command, liquidate the headquarters, the top, after which the troops without a command will become crowds of vagabonds. I am a simple person and I understand that what is happening is what is called agreements. The population without youth will remain, these, returning, will become alcoholics

[Alexander X]

I have watched the video several times. He noted: where on the frames you can see that there is no snow on tank V, there is no snow around the tank! You can see it well in the last seconds of the video.
Maybe a fake.
Well, if not a fake, then, at least, rip off shoulder straps from such commanders. Or maybe on trial and atone for blood ...

[Vladimir Mskvchev]

they won’t tell us about it in detail anyway, just as they don’t tell us why not a single attempt was made to destroy NATO equipment during the year of the NMD, when it is delivered to the front on echelons, and this is a path almost a THOUSAND km long. on the territory of Ukraine. At this moment, NATO equipment is the most vulnerable, the most defenseless - DESTROY, RELEASE, but nothing like this has been done in a year. Not a single echelon was destroyed, and there are more than 10 of them a day, full of weapons, ammunition, provisions, fuel, and manpower. Everything that was transferred to NATO, on the western borders of Ukraine, everything is delivered to the front line safe and sound. It seems that all these NATO weapons, along the entire route to the front line, are under our protection.

[yho]

DESTROY, DESTROY

I wonder how?

[Expert2023]

Quote: Vladimir80

I wonder if you believe this yourself when you write this?

What does it mean to believe or not? It's not like a religion. ordinary knowledge

[Terenin]

Is it really not clear in a year that for riding in columns and standing in a bunch we were punished more than once or twice

[Vladimir Mskvchev]

And our generals did not learn to fight - they did not need it. For our generals, in order to move up the career ladder, it was enough to win the "tank biathlon". And today we are reaping the fruits of that policy. What a commander-in-chief - such are his generals.

[Fedor1]

they think about the soldiers’ cheeks how clean they are shaved today or not, that’s what the parquet generals are concerned about

[Fedor1]

how the truth is unpleasant and cripples you embezzlers and lackeys who ruined the best army

[Negruz]

how the truth is unpleasant and cripples you embezzlers and lackeys who ruined the best army

The chief airborne officer of the entire USSR, party member and hero of the USSR Grachev died a long time ago

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

Yes, go from here to the comments on bmpd, all your people have gathered there, discussing how the Ukrainians will sell "Leopards" for a barrel of vodka.

[Fintiflushkin]

You see, guys, the issue here is not this damaged iron. This is a question of mental health problems among the country's top leadership.
There was a time when grandpa could whip up a decree in an instant about “20 million high-tech jobs by tomorrow morning.” They laughed at this, but by and large it didn’t concern us - he’s as old as he is. Well, I wanted an aqua disco, oh well.
But the further you go, the more challenging it becomes.
Remember the beginning of the SVO.
This council with voting, where Naryshkin trembled.
Everyone unanimously voted "for". And even the Minister of Internal Affairs Kolokoltsev.
I have a question: what does the Minister of Internal Affairs have to do with the announcement of the SVO? What are the problems in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, in the internal affairs of the country, that it is necessary to declare a SVO?
There was only one problem - it was necessary to show personal devotion to grandfather, to support any of his knees.

Further. Several days of SVO have passed. TG channels are clogged with Russian burned equipment and our losses. TV cheerfully reports and radiates optimism about an imminent victory.
Grandfather stands up cheerfully and urges the defeated Ukrainian Armed Forces to take power into their own hands.
What motivated him at that moment?
Well, victory is close, and here he is on a white horse right in the center of the television battle.
Further, insanity is already on the verge of meanness.
Where was grandfather when ours retreated in the Kharkov region?
And the hero opened the Ferris wheel at the holiday.
That is, where necessary - he is on a white horse and in place, but as stinking guano - he has nothing to do with it.
And here again is our equipment, battered in the columns.
Are they trainable?
Absolutely - yes.
Why do they show themselves this way then?
Yes, because the system is such that the bosses are most afraid that they will be “set up” and pushed away from the trough.
So they crush “smart guys” and “upstarts”, crush initiative people, and only push their own thieving prostitutes.
And who knows what they have done there over the years at the helm - they are enormously unjust and bloody riches, and I don’t want to answer.
Personally, I had hope that at least there would be order in the army, but still the defense of the country.
The SVO began - my wife and I opened a bottle and drank to the victory of Russian weapons and that we would finally go calmly to our relatives in Donbass and that the war would soon end.
But it's not that simple.
And it’s absolutely the same in everything.
Remember the “Winter Cherry” tragedy - the fire started with drops of burning liquid plastic from a lamp falling onto a foam mat. A bucket of water would have been enough, or the mat would have been thrown away.
But the crowds of muzzled and downtrodden people either rushed away or sat quietly and waited until “the people responsible for order did what was necessary.”
Health to everyone and survival.

[yho]

Yes, because the system is such that the bosses are most afraid that they will be “set up” and pushed away from the trough.
So they put pressure on the “smart guys” and “upstarts”

Yes, such a system is not only in the army. It also often occurs in civilian life.

[Joaozinho]

And grandfather was going to perform at the festival again in a week. Apparently, the reports reported on our numerous victories.

[Alex Barrett]

Quote: Fintiflushkin

You see, guys, the issue here is not this damaged iron. This is a question of mental health problems among the country's top leadership.
There was a time when grandpa could whip up a decree in an instant about “20 million high-tech jobs by tomorrow morning.” They laughed at this, but by and large it didn’t concern us - he’s as old as he is. Well, I wanted an aqua disco, oh well.
But the further you go, the more challenging it becomes.
Remember the beginning of the SVO.
This council with voting, where Naryshkin trembled.
Everyone unanimously voted "for". And even the Minister of Internal Affairs Kolokoltsev.
I have a question: what does the Minister of Internal Affairs have to do with the announcement of the SVO? What are the problems in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, in the internal affairs of the country, that it is necessary to declare a SVO?
There was only one problem - it was necessary to show personal devotion to grandfather, to support any of his knees.

Further. Several days of SVO have passed. TG channels are clogged with Russian burned equipment and our losses. TV cheerfully reports and radiates optimism about an imminent victory.
Grandfather stands up cheerfully and urges the defeated Ukrainian Armed Forces to take power into their own hands.
What motivated him at that moment?
Well, victory is close, and here he is on a white horse right in the center of the television battle.
Further, insanity is already on the verge of meanness.
Where was grandfather when ours retreated in the Kharkov region?
And the hero opened the Ferris wheel at the holiday.
That is, where necessary - he is on a white horse and in place, but as stinking guano - he has nothing to do with it.
And here again is our equipment, battered in the columns.
Are they trainable?
Absolutely - yes.
Why do they show themselves this way then?
Yes, because the system is such that the bosses are most afraid that they will be “set up” and pushed away from the trough.
So they crush “smart guys” and “upstarts”, crush initiative people, and only push their own thieving prostitutes.
And who knows what they have done there over the years at the helm - they are enormously unjust and bloody riches, and I don’t want to answer.
Personally, I had hope that at least there would be order in the army, but still the defense of the country.
The SVO began - my wife and I opened a bottle and drank to the victory of Russian weapons and that we would finally go calmly to our relatives in Donbass and that the war would soon end.
But it's not that simple.
And it’s absolutely the same in everything.
Remember the “Winter Cherry” tragedy - the fire started with drops of burning liquid plastic from a lamp falling onto a foam mat. A bucket of water would have been enough, or the mat would have been thrown away.
But the crowds of muzzled and downtrodden people either rushed away or sat quietly and waited until “the people responsible for order did what was necessary.”
Health to everyone and survival.

For some reason, everyone believes that the grandfather is aware of everything that is happening, which is far from a fact. There is an opinion that the Potemkin army was built especially for him, the country, the war and his virtual troops are already surrounding Kyiv and will soon advance to Warsaw, and all these cartoons about Poseidons and other terrible wunderwaffles are just part of a virtual fairy tale for the president. If you imagine that everything is exactly like this, then many events appear in a completely different light and answers to some questions appear.

[Sergey_52]

there are many questions for the command

A reasonable question arises: why doesn’t the phrase sound like in the times of Joseph Vissarionovich: “Shoot!”

[Fedor1]

because we have the answer, GDP, not Stalin, this is the complete opposite.

[yho]

So we don’t live under socialism. Or do you long to return to the totalitarian system?

[optimist007]

Quote: Optimist007

Again - "on the same rake": a video of the impact of artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on a column of Russian armored vehicles near Ugledar appeared on the Web

... Even from a young age, I was convinced that there is no event in the world that the newspaper would truthfully tell about ...
D. Orwell "Remembering the war in Spain"

That negative creatures are afraid of even writers!

[agond]

On the video, the tanks move at minimal intervals, as if they were traveling somewhere in the rear. In the footage of reports from the front, you can still find crowding: either the equipment will be collected in one place or in a column, or the soldiers will be placed in one building, the guns will be assembled in a battery, and generals, they are beyond suspicion.

[Negruz]

In the video, the tanks move at minimal intervals, as if they were driving somewhere in the rear,

The intervals for a tank company on the march are set by the company commander or battalion commander....
In rank from captain to major....

[Going]

Our command is again attacking the same rake, sending armored vehicles to attack in open areas with the enemy’s artillery not suppressed. On one of the sections of the Ugledar front, a large group of advancing tanks and infantry fighting vehicles came under attack from the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ guns, firing from a hill and perfectly controlling the situation. The result is a lot of damaged Russian armored vehicles, killed and wounded, and a thwarted attack.

This kind of science costs us a lot, I hope the perpetrators will be punished.

[huntsman650]

Send this video to the Kremlin. Everything goes according to Strelkov, as he says it is (((

[optimist007]

Go Russia! Beat the creatures to the last! No planes or tanks will save them, the fascists and Nazis too, the same creatures fed, watered, and supplied weapons!

[agond]

For comparison, let's say the driver will be convicted if the bus lost control and the passengers died in an accident, and if the general lost control, his subordinates died... so what?

[Vladimir Mskvchev]

this general is good for nothing other than poking the commander-in-chief. Such mistakes (similar to the current one) were made at the very beginning of the SVO and more than once, but knowing about this, making something like this today is a complete professional unsuitability.

[Vladimir Mskvchev]

These are our Tornadoes, Grads and Tornadoes that still hit areas, and at a distance of 30 - 40 km. This is a plus or minus, wherever it flies, it flies there. Hymers hits - one missile, one target, satellite-guided. When some modernized their MLRS, we continued to enjoy victories in the “tank biathlon”. I would like to ask - DID NOT PLAY ENOUGH? Instead of launching GLONAS satellites, which could guide our missiles to targets today, we launched artists into space (Yulia Peresild) for the next work of art, without which, we would not even notice it. And the destruction of our armored column and the autumn retreat to previously prepared lines is the result of this entire policy. ......... Or maybe because “we haven’t started in earnest yet”... but when will we start? ...otherwise it will soon be the second year.

[AC130 Gunship]

Why touch Yulka? She did something nice for everyone who needed it. And the absence of 70 kg of its weight could hardly change anything in space in today's situation

[nellyjuri]

Fine. What conclusions should be drawn? Not to advance until the artillery is suppressed? What if she is never depressed? It's so well hidden, shall we say? Stand still, forget about using armored vehicles? Well, let's lose infantry without giving them tanks. This is a fork. And so bad and so bad. It is impossible to hide the concentration of equipment today; it is also necessary to concentrate equipment before an attack, only then the attack will be synchronized, when all units of equipment move at once in their own directions and will be able to complete the task en masse.

And further. Didn’t we have to hit accumulations of Ukrainian equipment? In the fall, a strike was made on a cluster near Ugledar that was planning to attack Elenovka? Why did this become possible - because the equipment was concentrated in front of it - and it was said “a blow was struck at the forming columns.”

You are talking about a rake. Well, come up with another agricultural technique to avoid the rake.

It is possible that this was a step of desperation - everyone sees that the offensive on Ugledar and Maryanka is suspended, and the people in the field are in full view of the Kyrgyz Republic troops and are a target for them.

I'm very dissolved. But why did people who criticize especially diligently fail to make a career in the army? Will you say that there is nepotism there and nothing has come your way? No. The persistent and capable will always get ahead, beating the thieves. For example, I know that one of the group commanders went all the way from Suvorov officer to commander, without having military ancestors. Surovikin is similar - his father was a military man, but he grew up without a father and his connections, and if his father’s friends helped, then this is just a human, not a selfish act.

It’s easy to be an expert when you’re not the one sending people to their deaths, and how nice it is to throw shit at those who decided to take a risk and that risk didn’t pay off.

[Fintiflushkin]

There is truth in your words, but this is the truth of today and today's situation.
Question: those who prepared the SVO (and in hindsight it became clear that the preparation had been going on for years and the logic of many facts has now become clear) how did they prepare in general?
Purely on paper - so that you can report beautifully to your superiors? Was an objective assessment of the enemy forces given? their weapons? Possibility of intervention by outside forces?
Otherwise, it turns out - no satellites, no drones, and in general - a numerical minority. How did you prepare?

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

Quote from nellyjuri

But why did people who criticize especially diligently fail to make a career in the army?

Yes, because a keen interest in military affairs has always been not a plus, but a minus for a military career.

[yho]

Not to advance until the artillery is suppressed?

Exactly. It is the unsuppressed enemy artillery that explains the huge losses in the Rzhev operations in the Second World War. Then we made the right conclusions for the future.

[Woodman]

Even the terrain in these cuts is different. The time of year just coincides. However, I have noticed more than once that any video from THAT side is perceived by many as the ultimate truth. Without the slightest attempt to look for confirmation or just look carefully and thoughtfully.
PS What about the import substitution of bells?

[Dart2027]

Quote: Lesovik

However, I have noticed more than once that any video from THAT side is perceived by many as the ultimate truth. Without the slightest attempt to look for confirmation or just look carefully and thoughtfully.

How else can you whine?

[Roman Efremov]

"Unsuccessful attack by our troops." Did anyone think that the war would be without failures, only successes? The enemy also has reconnaissance and artillery is still working. And suppressing it in advance at modern firing ranges is not at all easy. We would already be in Lvov if we could suppress everything......................

[Lom_2]

There are powerful volumetric explosion bombs. Use them to process enemy positions.

[cpls22]

Information from the enemy must be immediately divided into three.
Moreover, this is not a real video, but a well-prepared cut from photos. So you can divide by four. As for the reasons for such a defeat, they may have looked at the deliveries of the next batch of miracle ammunition for testing. What was the last time they promised after Switchblade? It's one thing to track artillery in positions, and another thing to track mortar-type launchers.

[Lom_2]

“Grinding” was invented to justify insane frontal attacks against unsuppressed defenses. The generals are afraid that they will be fired and pretend to be active. We need to stop these senseless attacks and wait for the promised strike weapons.

[Nastia makarova]

sit and wait? It is precisely such attacks that are effective and not, as shown, bypassing with columns that can easily be destroyed

[Konnick]

The video is pretty chaotic. It looks like it was pulled together from different pieces and assembled. Moreover, clearly not in chronological order.
No... that is, I do not deny the losses naturally (especially keeping in mind the sometimes incomprehensible decisions of our generals)... but perhaps the losses there are not as great as the chubaks boast. On other resources they write about 7 tanks and 3 infantry fighting vehicles...

And on topkor they generally write that the Russian Armed Forces yesterday repelled an attempt by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, with the support of armored vehicles, to attack our troops. In general, you'll understand.

There is no other video from Konashenkov. The silence on the part of the Ministry of Defense regarding this video is proof of the veracity of this filming.

[single-n]

So to speak. What is most confusing is the silence on OUR side. Here the seizure of 5 houses was trumpeted in all media. And then there was silence for 2 weeks. So they believe everything

[Expert2023]

Quote: 2 level advisor

Quote: Expert2023

1) Russians and Ukrainians are one people
2) The main and main goal of the Special Military Operation is the unification of 2 parts of one people.

1) something doesn’t look like the other half is longing for unification ..
2) based on the first, your points are meaningless.

As the famous professor of black magic, Mr. Woland, said, “I beg your pardon, but this is so,”

[A009]

Looking at such footage, the thought involuntarily creeps in that ANY ADEQUATE taxi driver or housewife would have understood during this time how NOT to do it, but how to do it. I very much doubt the adequacy of the command. And this is after a YEAR of war!

[Ghost1]

So Strelkov wrote a long time ago about frontal attacks and about unteachable superiors. This is how it is constantly confirmed.
But on the TV box they will report that everything is going according to plan, and whoever agrees with her is tsipso.

[Lom_2]

All western deliveries go through the Dnieper. If there are no supplies, the Ukrainian Armed Forces will not be able to fight. The main question is when will the bridges across the Dnieper be destroyed? Until they are destroyed, stop attacking unsuppressed enemy positions.

[Expert2023]

Quote: Konnick

The video is pretty chaotic. It looks like it was pulled together from different pieces and assembled. Moreover, clearly not in chronological order.
No... that is, I do not deny the losses naturally (especially keeping in mind the sometimes incomprehensible decisions of our generals)... but perhaps the losses there are not as great as the chubaks boast. On other resources they write about 7 tanks and 3 infantry fighting vehicles...

And on topkor they generally write that the Russian Armed Forces yesterday repelled an attempt by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, with the support of armored vehicles, to attack our troops. In general, you'll understand.

There is no other video from Konashenkov. The silence on the part of the Ministry of Defense regarding this video is proof of the veracity of this filming.

Well, for example, do you take silence about the fact of the appearance of a UFO in the Earth’s atmosphere as confirmation of the veracity of the filming of these objects?

[Epaulettes]

Here's what Strelkov writes about it - https://m.vk.com/wall347260249_672986

Horror. There is no reason not to trust him.

[Nikolay310]

A large-scale concert with Putin’s participation is planned in Moscow on February 22...here are the conclusions, here are the personnel decisions...

don’t care, let’s dance...and shout Russia, Russia...we’ll win...the main thing is not to forget to wave the flags more actively, maybe we’ll stir up a tornado and blow away the ukrov

[Expert2023]

Quote: Nikolay310

A large-scale concert with Putin’s participation is planned in Moscow on February 22...here are the conclusions, here are the personnel decisions...

don’t care, let’s dance...and shout Russia, Russia...we’ll win...the main thing is not to forget to wave the flags more actively, maybe we’ll stir up a tornado and blow away the ukrov

Besides the hackneyed routine chants and sniffles, will we ever get real proposals from you?

[Servisinzhener]

Here everyone writes and curses the command, the higher the command, the stronger it is.

Isn’t it at the level of the driver and commander of the tank that it is decided where exactly it will be stationed? In contact with the rest of the equipment or 100-200 meters from each other. Aren't those people who are visible in this recording personally placing 10 tanks in a square of 100 by 50 meters? Well, who do they think is the evil Pinocchio now? Is it everyone's first day there?

[yho]

Of course not. This is decided by the commander, not the driver. You must be kidding.

[Thompson]

How smart and brilliant everyone is with hindsight!
Some computer generalisimos and keyboard tactics and strategists!!!!!!

[Nikolay310]

according to Strelkov, the losses in armored vehicles are in the region of 30 units, the losses of tankers in the 200s are many dozens, and the special forces and marines have even more... believe it or not (I have little respect for Strelkov as a person, as a military analyst 60 per 40)... in addition, he wrote that at the same time another frontal assault on Avdiivka by former NM DPR took place... with the loss of two companies...

Yes, if what Girkin said is divided by three, then this is ....

The Marines completed their task of diverting Ukrainian reserves from Artyomovsk... but will anyone next time stand up for Prigozhin’s self-PR... Murz wrote correctly, “the prisoners” of Wagner are fighting so successfully because others are using their blood in the Donbass fortified areas they are not allowing reinforcements to be transferred to Artyomovsk...

it would be very interesting to see how Wagner would take Ugledar...

[Nastia makarova]

there were mostly abandoned armored vehicles and not destroyed

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

Knowing its exact location, finishing it off with artillery is not difficult. Another thing is that the enemy can wait for evacuation attempts and then cover the tow trucks at the same time.

[Kronos]

Prigozhin was prohibited from recruiting new prisoners, which means the replenishment will end soon.

[vovochkarzhevsky]

What, no one except me sees that the video is brutally edited plus staged footage is used?
Well, at least open your eyes a little, this is a hodgepodge of who knows what.
The location of the action, the composition of the column, and what’s more, in the outer frames even the time of year is different.
The density of supposedly artillery fire is such that it would be a great success to hit even one unit of armored vehicles.
There is no video of burning armored vehicles as a class, but they burn well and produce a lot of black soot.
There are not even traces of fire in the supposedly damaged armored vehicles, or in the turrets disrupted by explosions. Why, there aren’t even traces of caterpillars.
The car, on the hood of which the identification mark is defiantly marked, is an ancient KrAZ.
The video itself is generally low resolution.
And this is just offhand.
I understand that the majority here, regardless of virtual ranks and titles, are purely civilian people. But should there be basic observation and logical thinking?
As well as the understanding that no one has canceled the war on the propaganda field. A virtual victory is also a victory if it can sow panic. And it’s also a blessing that such videos are of clumsy quality. But how long will this remain so? The modern film industry is capable of creating videos that can confuse even experts.
So, look carefully and try to think.

[Ruslan_3]

Quote: vovochkarzhevsky

What, no one except me sees that the video is brutally edited plus staged footage is used?
Well, at least open your eyes a little, this is a hodgepodge of who knows what.
The location of the action, the composition of the column, and what’s more, in the outer frames even the time of year is different.
The density of supposedly artillery fire is such that it would be a great success to hit even one unit of armored vehicles.
There is no video of burning armored vehicles as a class, but they burn well and produce a lot of black soot.
There are not even traces of fire in the supposedly damaged armored vehicles, or in the turrets disrupted by explosions. Why, there aren’t even traces of caterpillars.
The car, on the hood of which the identification mark is defiantly marked, is an ancient KrAZ.
The video itself is generally low resolution.
And this is just offhand.
I understand that the majority here, regardless of virtual ranks and titles, are purely civilian people. But should there be basic observation and logical thinking?
As well as the understanding that no one has canceled the war on the propaganda field. A virtual victory is also a victory if it can sow panic. And it’s also a blessing that such videos are of clumsy quality. But how long will this remain so? The modern film industry is capable of creating videos that can confuse even experts.
So, look carefully and try to think.

At least someone said it. It feels like the resource is turning into a bunch of sissies

[vovochkarzhevsky]

That's for sure, two of these have already been noted.

[Negruz]

It feels like the resource is turning into a bunch of sissies

He is like that, he just “revealed” in 2022....

In Sudoplatov’s department it was called “canned food”...

[donavi49]

ancient KrAZ

Ural 4320

The video itself is generally low resolution

About 10 videos were posted from several sites.

Well, the resolution depends on the position of the filming drone.

There are not even signs of fire on the allegedly damaged armored vehicles

The equipment is barefoot with mines, the BMX vehicles are mostly abandoned.

[vovochkarzhevsky]

Ural 4320

What are you saying? Then let's look in detail.

And immediately questions:
- why are the cut edges like those of the KrAZ-255?
- Why are there no side edges on the windshields?
- why are there no stamped stiffening ribs on the cabin roof?
- why aren’t there three signal lights that were on all Urals by default, but not always on 255?

[Archivist Vasya]

It’s good that they didn’t hush it up as they usually did. The news itself is bad.
Well, our generals are a rare breed, not all of them, of course, but the majority, especially those who are older.

We are as crowded as possible - we really have to try. The fields are mined, of course, but no artillery support, no air support, no training to make passages in minefields, nothing...

[Reindeer]

Wow, the video is kind of weird. It’s torn and doesn’t give a complete picture; some places do not connect with each other (well, there the direction of movement, for example, is different, or the presence of a forest belt itself). It’s not that I don’t believe in the possibility of this - anything can happen, of course. However, I cannot unconditionally believe such a controversial video -_-

[vovochkarzhevsky]

Read my message 10.43. There's a little analysis there.

[Moneron]

if the hare commander planned the battle pattern in such a way that at the initial stage he lost a significant part of the personnel and equipment... he is obliged to shoot himself... from the burden of guilt for the unjustified deaths of his subordinates... and from shame for his professional incompetence. and there is no need to reproach people for not being indifferent to such a situation.
in peacetime, any slanted, incompetent person evoked a feeling of disgust... such a hands-on “father-commander” only evokes hatred for the mediocre lives of soldiers. Why didn’t this bastard learn anything in peacetime?

[Expert2023]

Quote: Sergey_52

there are many questions for the command

A reasonable question arises: why doesn’t the phrase sound like in the times of Joseph Vissarionovich: “Shoot!”

I support! Shoot the alarmists or send them to the front so they can show off their tactical and leadership abilities

[Negruz]

Shoot the alarmists or send them to the front so they can show off their tactical and leadership abilities

[APASUS]

Where is the reconnaissance, where is the preparation for the offensive? This is how our military planning works normally, people were left to fend for themselves

[Expert2023]

Quote: Optimist007

Go Russia! Beat the creatures to the last! No planes or tanks will save them, the fascists and Nazis too, the same creatures fed, watered, and supplied weapons!

At least I wrote one adequate comment, respect!

[Seraphimamur]

But realistically, how to attack if all around is a flat steppe? We also destroy their equipment in the steppe. And you think it’s like they’re riding in a parade in orderly columns. Yes, and on our side there are losses, no one hides this.

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

If you can’t advance on the flat steppe (Rommel left the chat), then why did they advance on it?

[yho]

Google “Operation Desert Storm.” This is the standard of military art.

[Mint Gingerbread]

Can not understand anything. Somewhere, someone is being shelled. Even if we assume that this is an advance of Russian troops. A risk that didn't work out. The Ukrobots and turbopatriots are already foaming up. They won’t do anything to anyone, this happens periodically in all warring countries.

[Expert2023]

Quote: Seraphimamur

But realistically, how to attack if all around is a flat steppe? We also destroy their equipment in the steppe. And you think it’s like they’re riding in a parade in orderly columns. Yes, and on our side there are losses, no one hides this.

Do not pay attention. 90% of comments from “commanders” and “strategists” in such articles are ordinary military sofa housewives and alarmists and

[Negruz]

While the Russian Ministry of Defense is cheerfully reporting on the ongoing offensive of troops in the South-Donetsk direction, a video of an unsuccessful attack by our troops near Vuhledar is being circulated on Internet resources.

I wonder how long a journalist would have worked in the red race if he wrote the following in December 1942: while the SVGK is cheerfully reporting on the ongoing offensive of troops in the Stalingrad direction, at the forefront of the Wehrmacht, photographs are being distributed in German newspapers of the unsuccessful attack of our troops near Vyazma.

I'm talking about the verbal construction itself, the tone and form of presentation of the material....

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

Well, yes, I remember, in 1942 they imprisoned people who called the Great Patriotic Special Operation a war. And the gas pipeline across the Reich worked. And the commander-in-chief, addressing the people, did not say “brothers and sisters,” but chuckled coyly: “decommunization, heh... well, that suits us quite well, heh...”.

[Ivan Ivanov_36]

Putin’s people will say that this is a war and there are no losses. Putin is doing everything right.

I quote:

! :mad: :mad: :mad:

What do you think Putin has been doing for the last 15 years (since his Munich speech)???

Putin is maneuvering, simply to the limit of the possible!

He does everything in such a way that the enemy in territory 404 is ground up like in a meat grinder, that the West is choking on its own sanctions, but at the same time, the population of Russia practically does not feel the sanctions at all and that the 3rd World War is underway!!!

If everything was done your way, we would now have losses like the Ukrainians, or even worse, our economy would be in ruins, and people would be looking for food in garbage dumps!

And this would have happened at the first stage of your management. And then there would be an exchange of nuclear strikes and the world would roll back into the Stone Age!

Thanks to Putin, Russia stands like a rock!!! With minimal losses, the economy is preserved and, moreover, its potential is now growing at a breakneck pace! When this spring straightens out in 3-4 years, the growth will be such that China will be jealous!

But the West is destroying itself!

[Expert2023]

Quote: Hindu

Quote: Expert2023

Quote: Sergey_52

there are many questions for the command

A reasonable question arises: why doesn’t the phrase sound like in the times of Joseph Vissarionovich: “Shoot!”

I support! Shoot the alarmists or send them to the front so they can show off their tactical and leadership abilities

Judging by the uneven handwriting, are you playing from the trenches?

To assess the level of your phenomenal hysteria against the backdrop of alarmism, it is imperative to get into the trenches

[Negruz]

"What are you doing!"

Will Ukrainians run out of resources faster than Western resources?

[Osipov9391]

Everything will change dramatically in the spring and not in our favor. How will deliveries of aircraft, tactical missiles and long-range attack drones begin?
This is what could create a threat of military defeat and a retreat to the position on February 23.
And the West’s possibilities for supplying this stuff are limitless - in Europe alone, thousands and thousands of aviation ammunition, for example, lie in warehouses.

[Negruz]

Everything is changing so dramatically that they are already rowing 55-year-olds, armless and blind, identifying potential mobilizers as girls...

[Osipov9391]

This will no longer matter when hundreds of JSOW bombs and AGM-158 missiles rain down on headquarters, rear areas and airfields.
And the “Harpoons” already available there, launched from those same F-16s, will fly at the Black Sea Fleet ships in Crimea.

Of course, flying bombs and plans for ATACMS were transferred from a number of countries. It is no less dangerous than aviation. Especially in quantity.
And many people are still hurray, hurray, hurray, without even understanding what will happen. And where does it go?

[Negruz]

Oh, Lord!
Here we have shot down over 200 small highmars only in the last two weeks, and gliding bombs or large atakms screaming across the entire frequency range are less of a problem against their background...

Over the past 12 months, the Khikhlys, with their headquarters, rear areas and airfields, have “sucked in” thousands of cruise and ballistic missiles and are still alive....

[Hindu]

Quote: Ivan Ivanov_36

Putin’s people will say that this is a war and there are no losses. Putin is doing everything right.

And the Zaputins have no choice but to repeat this cannibalistic mantra.
Moreover, the average VOshny zaputinets is, as a rule, a military pensioner who has “served his time,” who is not worried about mobilization and the prospects of being subordinate to Gerasimov and Co. That’s why they’re all such hawks here.

[Negruz]

The average VOSHny zaputinets is, as a rule, a military pensioner who has “served his time,” who is not worried about mobilization and the prospects of being subordinate to Gerasimov and Co. That’s why they’re all such hawks here.

Are you afraid of mobilization?

[Osipov9391]

Mobilization has already taken place. There is no serious sense from it and if it continues like this it won’t happen at all.
Further mobilizations are pointless - the army will not physically accept these people.
And they will be much less lucky in terms of equipment than the first wave.
The very first AKs and RPGs will be received, the especially “lucky” ones will receive PPSh.
The equipment is requisitioned from civilian UAZs and KamAZs.

[Negruz]

The latest mobilization brought the balance of forces from 3 to 1 to 2 to 1....
The benefits of it: the Ukrainian Armed Forces are running out of tanks, no one is talking about an attack on Crimea anymore, the range of human losses is colossal...
Everyone will be lucky, don’t worry: we are working on it)))

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

Who are you? Were the prisoners given mobile phones? How do you work"?

[Negruz]

Who are you? Were the prisoners given mobile phones? How do you work"?

We do things like this, with the help of which we knock down whole bags of highmars....

What are you doing?

[donavi49]

According to the article and comments.

The main attack was on mines; in fact, the tanks were lined up with their shoes off for a reason. Arta was already hitting the standing columns.

The events took place for several days (5-6) in three areas in the Ugledar direction. The pattern is approximately the same - driving towards mines and firing at those standing up. For example, here is the second section (with a video of a burning tank driver). A tank is blown up on the road -> a probably export T-90 with a characteristic solid turret is blown up -> a third tank has slipped forward, turns around and retreats - also blown up.

Also, the columns were quite actively removed at the extension stage. For example, the BMPha Dracula - which in the video from Copters created purgatory, suppressing its own.

Well, yes, this is not the first “successful offensive”. There are cursed places and there is no particular point in hammering. Here is another attack, just after the success with the dachas, when there was no snow yet - it ended in the same way, just within 5-6 units of equipment, including those hung with additional protection from the Research Institute of Steel BMPhi-3.

[Dart2027]

Quote: donavi49

The events took place for several days (5-6) in three areas in the Ugledar direction.

And if you believe the article and the “experts,” then everything happened right away.

[Million]

As military expert Boris Rozhin writes, many questions arise for the command; some do not draw conclusions from past failures at all. The situation near Ugledar is very difficult, there are fierce battles.

When will Putin send this command to the front line?
Let them understand the value of human life, realize their mistakes and start thinking with their heads and not with their gluteus...

[yho]

If he sends them to the front line, then who will he be left with? Therefore - never.

[Hindu]

Quote: Negruz

The average VOSHny zaputinets is, as a rule, a military pensioner who has “served his time,” who is not worried about mobilization and the prospects of being subordinate to Gerasimov and Co. That’s why they’re all such hawks here.

Are you afraid of mobilization?

Afraid. AND? What's next? Does this change anything in your mind? I just don't understand what your question is about.

Counterquestion. You take your seat on the plane. You see that the cockpit is occupied by oligophrenics. Do you have reason to be afraid?

[Expert2023]

I’m just explaining to everyone that the bulk of militant sofa housewives, anti-Putinites, are entirely alarmists and cowards

[Negruz]

I'm afraid

Don't be afraid: no one will catch you in an ambulance....

Counterquestion. You take your seat on the plane. You see that the cockpit is occupied by oligophrenics. Do you have reason to be afraid?

No, because you will never understand whether they are oligophrenic or not....

Because if mental retards were able to occupy the cockpit of the plane you are flying on, then you are just a cretin (this is not an insult, but a medical definition): Inter caecos luscus rex

[Hindu]

Quote: Expert2023

I’m just explaining to everyone that the bulk of militant sofa housewives, anti-Putinites, are entirely alarmists and cowards

Well, you are a brave explainer, you were probably in the lead vehicle of the broken column? Not?
Ah, then it’s clear why he’s so cheerful.

[Hindu]

Quote: Negruz

I'm afraid

Don't be afraid: no one will catch you in an ambulance....

Counterquestion. You take your seat on the plane. You see that the cockpit is occupied by oligophrenics. Do you have reason to be afraid?

No, because you will never understand whether they are oligophrenic or not....

Because if mental retards were able to occupy the cockpit of the plane you are flying on, then you are just a cretin (this is not an insult, but a medical definition: Inter caecos luscus rex

Thank you for condescendingly allowing me not to be afraid.
As for the example with the airplane, you understood everything perfectly. There is no need to meander and get personal.
However, the handwriting gives away the Za-Putin demagogue and chatterbox.

[Negruz]

Thank you

You are welcome!

As for the example with the airplane, you understood everything perfectly. There is no need to meander and get personal.
However, the handwriting gives away the Za-Putin demagogue and chatterbox.

No meandering, much less getting personal: the smart ones always rule, but some fools don’t understand this...

[Expert2023]

Quote: Hindu

Quote: Expert2023

I’m just explaining to everyone that the bulk of militant sofa housewives, anti-Putinites, are entirely alarmists and cowards

Well, you are a brave explainer, you were probably in the lead vehicle of the broken column? Not?
Ah, then it’s clear why he’s so cheerful.

To assess your destructive perception of the world, it is not necessary to climb into the head machine

[Negruz]

What are you talking about? The results of many years of steering by smart people are visible.

Of course, they are visible: as Stoltenberg recently said, NATO countries spent 120 billion tanks in a year on various support for Ukraine....
Over the 10 years of supporting the Afghan mujahideen in the war against the USSR, ten times less was spent: we all see the difference in results...

It’s just that ungrateful fools don’t understand anything, in your opinion.
If we ask questions, it means we are no longer such fools. Because fools would just walk around and smile.

If we were smart, we would sit in the cockpit....