The light 105-mm M119A3 howitzers supplied by the US Armed Forces turned out to be without a digital fire control system

The United States and its allies continue to supply Ukraine with obsolete weapons, including barreled artillery. Following the American M777A2 howitzers supplied by the Armed Forces of Ukraine without fire control system units, the United States also supplied M119A3 howitzers in a "simplified version".

105-mm M119A3 light howitzers were supplied to Ukraine as military aid last year, but there were no images of these guns on Ukrainian resources. And now the 67th separate mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which received these same howitzers for service, published pictures of ongoing training with the M119A3. As it turned out, the Americans put the guns in a "simplified version", having dismantled the block of the digital fire control system from them.

On Ukrainian resources, these pictures caused a heated discussion, various considerations were expressed as to why the Americans did this, starting with "so that the secret blocks do not fall into the hands of the Russians" to "we simply do not have an American tactical command and control system." However, the absence of a fire control unit, an inertial navigation unit and a ballistic computer does not prevent the Armed Forces of Ukraine from using these howitzers to strike at the positions of Russian troops. Of course, not as accurate as stated, but nonetheless.

Recall that in the spring of last year in Kyiv they sang the praises of another American "wunderwaffe", which was supposed to be the M777A2 howitzer. It was stated that after the delivery of this weapon, the Armed Forces of Ukraine would defeat the Russian troops, since the howitzer is a very accurate weapon. However, it turned out that the United States is supplying the APU M777A2 in a simplified version, without a digital fire control system. Subsequently, the Ukrainian military even began to criticize the American howitzer, which was found to have low barrel survivability, general fragility of the structure, and strong lateral displacement.

Comments

[zloybond]

But we left them (the ballers) during an effective regrouping to advantageous positions as trophies, high-precision Krasnopol, self-propelled guns MSTA, etc. ...

[krot]

I don’t understand a little .. We have created an excellent SVP-24 bombing system. This is much more difficult to do for an aircraft than for howitzers! Where is the SVP-25 for the ground?
Or did the one-winded generals cut it down in the bud again?

[Synoid]

Quickly, they would have bled from your Bandera nose, as always, post fakes.

[aszzz888]

donavi49
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Now another battalion of equipment has been driven up near Ugledar. The real question is whether it will come out to pick up. I’ll guess the next T-90M, they’ll really try to take the blood from the nose.

They'll take it. Don't rejoice. I note once again, bursting you with such joy, lover to suck our losses.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: zloybond

But we left them (the ballers) during an effective regrouping to advantageous positions as trophies, high-precision Krasnopol, self-propelled guns MSTA, etc. ...

Your 155 BrMP near Ugledar acted like recruits yesterday. Not only did they crowd onto the road, they also crowded together. This is probably to make it easier for Ukrainians to direct. In general, the battalion commander, if he remained alive, remained under the tribunal, he must be given for such indifference.

[Ivan Ivanov]

It's strange that this crap is still happening despite the excess, it seems, of experience.

[Orange Bigg]

And how do you like it? Video at the link below.

Russian high-precision artillery ammunition "Krasnopol" was in service with the Ukrainian army. This is evidenced by the video published by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

At the same time, the Ukrainian commander noted the high efficiency of Russian ammunition.

The Obolon artillery control vehicle complex showed the possibility of using captured Krasnopol precision-guided munitions, which, in turn, increased our combat capabilities

- said the Ukrainian officer. .... According to experts, Russian high-precision artillery shells "Krasnopol" fell into the hands of Ukrainian artillerymen as a result of the retreat of the Russian army from the Izyum direction.

https://topcor.ru/31955-rossijskie-vysokotochnye-snarjady-krasnopol-okazalis-na-vooruzhenie-vsu.html

[Dedok]

Quote: IvanIvanov

It's strange that this crap is still happening despite the excess, it seems, of experience.

in words - yes, there is experience;
but "live" - ​​we see what we see ...

[Synoid]

Another friend of Bandera and the Nazis. Don't forget to say thank you to the Nazis for thinning you out.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Those. again: it was not we who interrupted the chains, but respected partners delivered a shortage. Let's jump for joy and see this as a secret US desire to end the conflict as soon as possible. You can add - the shells and the Ukrainians will soon run out, the fighting spirit has completely fallen, a fresh ukr captive told us about this! I'm sure some TV experts will do the same.

[donavi49]

M119A3 we just don't have an American tactical level combat control system

This, plus there is a difference in approaches and application. But, in general, these howitzers are working quite actively and they are actively asking for more. The West as a whole can give everything, because they do not need them. And most importantly (for the Armed Forces of Ukraine) are not SLA boxes, but shells. There are millions of them. Also, lightness allows the use of the Humvee in the form of a tractor and a portable BC.

[Roma 1977]

But their firepower is three times lower than that of the 155-mm. 105mm will never replace 155mm.

[donavi49]

But there are 36 of them in the brigade and they can be used locally. Plus, they give the amount, and not 155 - per teaspoon, and shells in quantity, and not per teaspoon. This is like the same D30 with the mobility of a 120 mm mortar.

[Synoid]

And if you give a caliber of 20, then the number can be increased to 100 in the brigade. Tyamka does not work at all or is it not written in the training manual to think?

[Nikolaevich I]

But where did the 105-mm howitzers get a "digital control system" from? How old are they at lunchtime?

[Synoid]

Yes, and there are still many Ukrainians, they can be disposed of and disposed of. What hasn't been added?

[zenion]

Why the hell do they need a digital system if they can count on their fingers.

[voyaka uh]

They have their own system - "Nettle". It has an open architecture. The data (firing tables) of any howitzer is entered into the software, and they are all in the tablets.

[Synoid]

Not "Nettle", but "Sow Sow" and not open but half-duplex, they are not introduced, but integrated, and this is all in starlink terminals)) The Jewish guardians of the Nazis touch me.