The State Duma proposed to ban references in the media about the presence of a criminal record among NWO volunteers

Some of the participants in the volunteer formations taking part in the special operation had previously served sentences in places of deprivation of liberty. The State Duma proposed to ban references in the media about the presence of a criminal record among the volunteers of the SVO.

Vasily Piskarev, head of the State Duma Committee on Security and Anti-Corruption, announced this on his Telegram channel.

The Committee has prepared amendments that introduce additional grounds for establishing liability for discrediting participants in hostilities, including volunteer organizations, as well as for publicly disseminating knowingly false information about them.

- writes the deputy.

Now the document has been sent for consideration to the Duma Committee on State Building and Legislation.

Actually, the presence of this initiative does not yet mean that it will definitely receive legal formalization, since it is not known for sure whether the majority of deputies will support it. The proposed amendments are currently under discussion.

Shortly before this, the owner of the Wagner PMC, Yevgeny Prigozhin, approached Speaker of the State Duma Vyacheslav Volodin with a proposal to legally enshrine in the legislation the mention of facts about serving a criminal sentence in places of deprivation of liberty in the past by volunteers participating in the SVO. The businessman noted that most of the former convicts participating in the special operation are now honestly fulfilling their military duty to the Motherland.

Comments

[Edik]

They are probably insured against those who are not far away. A normal person should already understand what these people are doing for us at the moment!

[AdAstra]

And what's wrong with that if it's a fact and there's no getting away from it? Something is not all about how they accept bans, it would be better if they accepted a ban on withdrawing money abroad, as an option.

[Andrey Moskvin]

During the Second World War, many military leaders were convicted, and everyone knew about it. No one was shy. I don't understand Prigogine.

[Edik]

Quote: Andrey Moskvin

I don't understand Prigogine.

To understand a person, you need to take his place .. He has repeatedly stated that these guys are fighting heroically. Seeing this every day, he probably wants to do everything for their future! Yes, and these associations of "PMC Wagner" with convicts are not needed.

[Andrey Moskvin]

Edik
I see in my place that the guys are fighting heroically. Everyone who is in the subject already knows that there are a lot of c / c among them, but only Prigogine came to focus on this.

[Edik]

Quote: Andrey Moskvin

but it was only Prigogine who came up with the idea of ​​emphasizing this.

Not only to Prigozhin, Volfovich spoke about this a long time ago ..

[frog]

It would be better if they accepted a ban on withdrawing money abroad as an option.

But ninada to sway the boat and rock the pipe. Now is not the time, although what we have now is also obscure. But swaying and rocking, as well as encroaching on the foundations - never ninada

[igorbrsv]

Well, let's present a report about you:
- Ordinary private Adastra, rewarded for taking positions with the APU. He alone in hand-to-hand combat neutralized three fighters with his bare hands. We remind you that earlier, Private Adastra, a native of the Zadripischensky district, the village of Bolotnoye, was tried for a stabbing he arranged, as a result of which eight people, one woman, and a baby were injured

[AdAstra]

With such a calico, Adastra should still sit behind a thorn, and let him go to SVOina only on the condition that all of his z.p. which he will receive illegally on the territory of the Russian Federation, the PMC will go to pay off the moral damage caused to the victims.

[Mikhail Maslov]

Don't worry, it is. For the "convicted" look after and the fact that someone owes the state or the victim everything will be removed, at least a PMC, at least another structure. It is not a little important fact that people go voluntarily, of course, everyone has different motives. that they were sent back to the zone from the front.

[flyer]

There is nothing wrong with the biography of any person. You never know what can happen in life, and court decisions in our country often do not differ in objectivity. Yesterday's prisoner, who today at the cost of his own life went on the attack, is better than a snickering official who can have a crystal clear biography and millions "acquired" by overwork.

[Andrey Moskvin]

And how many deputies and other officials have been tried?

[frei67]

from the age of 21, 72 thousand convicted of bribery

[Andrey Moskvin]

And let's adopt a law, reporting on all the news that it is not necessary to talk about the convictions of deputies.

[Edik]

Quote from Flyer

Yesterday's prisoner, who today at the cost of his own life went on the attack, is better than a snickering official who can have a crystal clear biography and millions "acquired" by overwork.

There are those and others, not everyone trumpets about it to the whole world.

[Blackmokona]

Censorship is getting stricter and stronger.

[igorbrsv]

Why is there a need for legislative amendments? Responsibility for the dissemination of personal information is already provided. In addition to law enforcement agencies, the victim himself can bring them to court, and demand compensation for moral damage.

[Andrey Moskvin]

and claim compensation for non-pecuniary damage.
How old are you?

"I don't care that there's no reason for a duel,
I don't care that the quarrel came out of the ladies,
But thank God there are still men
Who are ashamed to drag themselves around the courts."
L. Filatov.

[wty7777]

I often hear that, for example, the convicted have problems with employment, I am not from Russia, how does it work? what is written in the passport? we have a judge if he does not tell, then no one will know

[igorbrsv]

The teacher will have problems. He will require a certificate of no criminal record. In general, a narrow circle of professions where a certificate is required in accordance with some legal norms. And no, it's not required. But...
The company may have its own security service, which can illegally break through your base

[frei67]

Yes, it’s enough from whom they ask when applying for a job at a DS school. Even a janitor, even a plumber

[Mint Gingerbread]

A very controversial decision. On the one hand, it is clear that volunteers risk their lives, protect the interests of the country and protect citizens.
But on the other hand, there are a lot of very subtle moments. Volunteers with a criminal record, as is known from open sources, enter into a contract with PMCs. In turn, the PMC is a private organization, and the citizens participating in it receive payment for their service.
Concerns the ethical and moral side of the issue. Some of these citizens could have previously been tried for murder, sexual violence, bodily harm. These are someone's ruined destinies and families, to whom the state has not compensated anything.

I think so. To get freedom bypassing the legal system, for such convicted citizens, and so a good chance. Whitewash biography at the legislative level? No, you can't do that. For future employers and quiet employment, perhaps in the civilian sphere. But then again, you have to look at how serious the crime was. How high was the contribution to the service.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Mint Gingerbread

Whitewash biography at the legislative level? No, you can't do that. For future employers and quiet employment, perhaps in the civilian sphere.

It seems to me that we are talking about those who diligently inflate these conversations simply out of a desire to create black PR.

[sanja.grw]

Quote: Mint Gingerbread

Concerns the ethical and moral side of the issue. Some of these citizens may have previously been convicted of murder, sexual violence, bodily harm

You write like this that when they were recruited, then all indiscriminately immediately from the zone and to the war. Yes, there were such checks, I just write, I know because I’m a little into this system. There were so many failures and the decision was not made in the zone, but not mediocre in Moscow.

[Mint Gingerbread]

Not all in a row, but I suspect that under such articles there are also present. Long periods are simply not given. Ordinary people just don't agree.
All this raises a lot of concern.
Russia and the USA are somewhat similar in moments. Each country has its own agenda. And there is one thing in common, these agendas are at odds with common sense and they are being pushed in spite of.
If Prigozhin or someone else had properly explained what was happening, maybe the perception would have been different.

[Edik]

Quote: Mint Gingerbread

I think so. To get freedom bypassing the legal system, for such convicted citizens, and so a good chance. Whitewash biography at the legislative level? No, you can't do that.

On the contrary, you must definitely do it! Otherwise, what happens? Russia gave them a chance to atone for their guilt, improve, give their most precious thing, their life to their homeland! And what are we in return? their ability to get a normal job?

[igorbrsv]

It depends on what article he was sitting on. Nobody released rapists and murderers. We can sit down for a stick of sausage forever. Here they were recruited.
As for them, they don't hire them, that's all bullshit. Watching where. Full of work. They won’t take it here, so they’ll tear it off with their hands

[Alister kroulegg]

Killer Belkin left my region for Wagner. In 2018, he killed businessman Chernov with a 7-year-old son with a knife, this is not counting a series of other murders as part of an organized criminal group, and now a respected defender of the motherland, a "musician"

[Qas]

And you change the angle a little: him and people like him, death in this war is not felt at all as painful as the death of a volunteer, militia, mobilized, right? And such benefits in the war will bring no less.

[lis-ik]

Oh, and this idea with "volunteer criminals" will backfire in the future, when they will establish their own rules in civilian life, they are unlikely to want and be able to work honestly, because Ukrainians already had such experience, everyone knows perfectly well what happened. In general, we are returning with leaps and bounds to the 90s, both in the economy and in life.

[igorbrsv]

Don't worry. What threatens you with a man who, drunk on the muzzle of a PPS-nick, has bitten. Or stalled on a wagon at a railway crossing. Or a cop who shot a civilian on a mission. Or a bribe taker

[lis-ik]

Such people calmly sit out their term, and those who otherwise can be released ahead of schedule go as "volunteers".

[Edik]

Quote: lis-ik

Such people calmly sit out their term, and those who otherwise can be released ahead of schedule go as "volunteers".

Come on, where did you get this from? Judging by the video with the Wagner fighters, there are a lot of people who had weeks left before the deadline ...

[fa2998]

By doing this, they put patriotic volunteers, mobilized, and murderous thieves on the same level. Whatever it is, I’ll “roam” for 15 months.
Discrediting the fighters of the NWO - yes, they have already discredited themselves - they have violated the law. And our judiciary, according to the Constitution, is SEPARATE. The verdict was passed, the appeal was rejected. And what does the opinion of the State Duma deputies have to do with it? They are also power, but also SEPARATE. They can not influence the court in any way!

[igorbrsv]

There are no killers there. These were not released. And there are no rapists. And pedophiles.
We have executive power, we have legislative power.

[runway-1]

The State Duma proposed to ban references in the media about the presence of a criminal record among NWO volunteers

Another manifestation of the sovereign-vertical domestic bourgeois democracy...

[AB]

Increasingly, I notice that fairy tales about the USSR invented in the 90s are being realized today. For example, censorship, or the fact that people are now more likely to whisper about politics in the kitchen. Campaign soon and for jokes will start planting. Or already?

[Mikhail Kononov]

Not the right approach. What is the difference between a convict in the Second World War and a convict in the NWO. In both cases, the convict was given a chance for redemption, only in the first version he was indebted to his homeland for the chance to improve. And now everyone is twisting it like that. that now the Motherland is obliged to the convict. I won't be surprised. that soon they will be able to shove them into the Duma and the deputies.

[GO-TO-GO-TO-GO]

Miracles. There are a bunch of by-laws and the fundamental Federal Law on personal data. We sign consent to their processing at every step. We judge - we don’t judge, circumcised - not circumcised, this is personal data, they cannot be disclosed. DOT!

[AdAstra]

And there is no need for comrades of the forum to tell tales about zk-"patriots", if there are such, then this is rather an exception, not a rule, and as it was correctly written in one of the comments, they go there not because of love for the Motherland, but love to himself, so as not to sit ... tsat. But for some reason, no one sings praises to my friends who pulled the 1st and 2nd, and care for them is not very visible, including from Mr. Prigogine.

[DefenderofTruth]

And can you mention the presence of a criminal record among the ministers of defense of the Russian Federation, among generals and other officers of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces?
Serdyukov and Vasilyeva?