Turkish Defense Minister Hulusi Akar warned the United States about the existence of alternative options for obtaining fighters

Turkey will consider purchasing fighters from other countries if the United States finally refuses to supply F-16s. This was stated by Turkish Defense Minister Hulusi Akar.

The United States wants to put pressure on Turkey so that Erdogan will give permission for Sweden and Finland to join NATO. To this end, a group of US senators appealed to Joe Biden that he postponed the sale of F-16 fighter jets to the Turks until they approved Sweden's joining the alliance. Notorious Victoria Nuland added fuel to the fire, saying that Congress would be more favorable to the sale of F-16 fighters to Turkey if Ankara approved the application of Sweden and Finland to NATO. Ankara warned Washington that in the event of a postponed or canceled deal, they would be forced to look for an alternative option, and Turkey has it.

We expect that common sense will prevail in the US and they will make a decision based on a comprehensive assessment of the problem. (...) We also say that F-16s are not our only option

- said Akar.

The fact that Turkey considers not only the United States but also other countries as a supplier has been repeatedly stated in Ankara. According to Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Turkey is considering Russia, France, Great Britain and China as an alternative. If it is also impossible to agree with Paris and London, then Moscow and Beijing will always remain. According to the Turkish press, earlier Ankara considered the Russian Su-35 as an alternative to the American F-57, and the F-16 could replace the Su-35.

Earlier it was reported that the Americans are delaying the delivery of F-16 fighters to Turkey, trying to quarrel between Ankara and Moscow, but Erdogan does not want to cancel friendship with Russia, now Turkey has too much tied to Russia.

Comments

[Lt. Air Force stock]

We have the Su-35, we need to increase production of the Su-57 for us, and leave the Su-35 for export.

[Carat]

Quote: Lt. Air Force stock

We have the Su-35, we need to increase production of the Su-57 for us, and leave the Su-35 for export.

Yes, you can export the SU-57. In a simplified export version. T-90 only due to export and got out of the pit.

[Myths]

So they will immediately send them to 404, why deliver? But Turkey can respond with another purchase of C400 ...

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote from Mitos

So they will immediately send them to 404, why deliver? But Turkey can respond with another purchase of C400 ...

Turkey has little choice, the United States does not sell, the EU, if the United States puts pressure, will not sell either. Only Russia and China remain. But they are unlikely to buy from China.

[Fizik13]

Quote: Lt. air force reserve

Turkey has little choice, the United States does not sell, the EU, if the United States puts pressure, will not sell either. Only Russia and China remain. But they are unlikely to buy from China.

And you forgot about South Korea, look how they began to supply Poland.
Asians and Africans buy from the Chinese, the main thing is cheaper.
But in Russia, they will definitely buy planes soon, if the Americans do not come to their senses. The fact is that the Turks need technology, but we can provide them with them, for example, like India (tanks, machine guns, missiles ...).

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote from Fizik13

And you forgot about South Korea, look how they began to supply Poland.
Asians and Africans buy from the Chinese, the main thing is cheaper.
But in Russia, they will definitely buy planes soon, if the Americans do not come to their senses. The fact is that the Turks need technology, but we can provide them with them, for example, like India (tanks, machine guns, missiles ...).

South Korea does not have its own aviation, they are only trying.

[bayard]

Quote from Fizik13

And you forgot about South Korea, look how they began to supply Poland.

South Korea does not have its own engines, the engines are American, which means that no one will sell it to anyone without US permission.
And the Turks know it.
They also play and PRESSURE on the USA.

[Egeny]

"Turkey will consider options for the purchase of fighters from other countries"
The Sultan is bargaining... here is the indestructible eastern vein... of the huckster.

[lis-ik]

Quote: Carat

T-90 only due to export and got out of the pit.

Or rather, due to the purchases of India.

[Luka Nord]

Quote: Lt. Air Force stock

We have the Su-35, we need to increase production of the Su-57 for us, and leave the Su-35 for export.

Well, the Turks saw the possibilities of the S-400, even the export version ... If they leave NATO, they will fly over Greece and Bulgaria like that hehe
They are terrifying, Russia will be silent ..

We will teach them if they leave NATO !!
PS Turkey paid the USA for the f-35, but not fighters and never received money back hehe

[figwam]

Su-57 is three times more expensive than Su-35, and Su-75 is planned for export

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Lt. Air Force stock

We have the Su-35, we need to increase production of the Su-57 for us, and leave the Su-35 for export.

For Turkey, this will be a huge additional cost. Their entire Air Force system is built on American aircraft.

[cold wind]

In order for the Turks to take the Su-35/57 in these fighters, almost all avionics, radar, and electronic warfare systems need to be changed. They are godlessly outdated. It's like developing a new fighter, so it's not an option at all.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote from cold wind

In order for the Turks to take the Su-35/57 in these fighters, almost all avionics, radar, and electronic warfare systems need to be changed. They are godlessly outdated. It's like developing a new fighter, so it's not an option at all.

On the Su-57 AFAR radar + additional side and wing edges. On the Su-35 PFAR, but quite productive, more powerful than some Western AFARs in terms of kilowatts. Range is also good.

[bayard]

Quote: Lt. air force reserve

On the Su-35 PFAR, but quite productive, more powerful than some Western AFARs in terms of kilowatts.

The Belka AFAR radar on the Su-35S is currently being tested ... so nothing is impossible.

Quote from cold wind

Su-35/57 in these fighters need to change almost all avionics, radar, electronic warfare systems. They are godlessly outdated.

And what is the alternative?
The Turks?
And the author missed another aircraft for the choice of the Turks - the MiG-35SE. With AFAR, the most modern avionics, an excellent airframe and simply a wonderful composition of weapons. At the same time, it is several times cheaper than the American F-16s, much better in terms of performance characteristics and the composition of weapons. Instead of the F-16, this will be the optimal replacement.
And when choosing the Su-35SE ... instead of F-16 , it's a sin to even discuss it. The Turks will be in a very big financial gain. And with their money ... strain.

[cold wind]

Quote: bayard

And what is the alternative?
The Turks?

I will write again. Negotiations are underway to purchase the Eurofighter Typhoon. Turkey and Britain are strategic partners: political, economic and military. They are developing new fighters for the Turkish Air Force with them and with Italy. Hulusi talks about them.
Just forget about the MiG-35, the project died before it was born, the Su-35 requires serious modernization with such avionics, it is not needed by the modern Air Force.

[abc_alex]

Quote from cold wind

Just forget about the MiG-35, the project died before it was born, the Su-35 requires serious modernization with such avionics, it is not needed by the modern Air Force.

Blah blah blah. Where does the project death data come from?

[bayard]

Quote from cold wind

. Negotiations are underway to purchase the Eurofighter Typhoon. Turkey and Britain are strategic partners: political, economic and military. They are developing new fighters for the Turkish Air Force with them and with Italy. Hulusi talks about them.

So it is - first of all, counting on cooperation with England. But there are different cases - Turkey has already cooperated with the United States in the F-35 program, and somehow it didn’t work out very well. Although the Turks produced some of the components, paid an advance, trained pilots ... So anything is possible in this undertaking.
And the MiG-35SE was offered to the Turks during Erdogan's visit, Turkish pilots flew in to see and test it ... I liked it. So they have an offer, and therefore there is a choice.

Quote from cold wind

Just forget about the MiG-35, the project died before it was born

Okay, okay?
Well, it was the case - the Ministry of Defense refused ... So it happened before the NWO. Before the SVO and Su-34 they were buried, even the aircraft manufacturing plant was going to be redeveloped ... however, new plans, orders, new regiments are being prepared for deployment. And for the construction of the MiG-35S, as many as two factories were preparing for production. Do you think they will stand idle during the war? When are new air regiments being prepared for deployment? I wouldn't say so. Yes, and such fighters will not be superfluous for the allies.

Quote from cold wind

The Su-35 requires serious modernization with such avionics, it is not needed by the modern Air Force.

What's wrong with avionics? They order it for themselves, and if it were not for the pressure from the United States, now they would have hundreds of orders. Or will you argue with it? Or F-16 avionics surpassed in what way?
Moreover, the Su-35S is already being tested with the AFAR radar and the updated avionics from the Su-57. And the MiG-35S was already initially created with AFAR and the most modern avionics.
Many states were and are interested in our fighters and air defense systems, the reason for the failure of contracts is pressure on the US countries and the threat of sanctions. And this is not about quality at all, this is unfair competition.
And the Turks have a choice. And if before the victory of Russia in the NWO, many interests and plans are frozen, then after that (and this Victory will be the defeat of the entire West), everything can change.

[Luka Nord]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: Lt. Air Force stock

We have the Su-35, we need to increase production of the Su-57 for us, and leave the Su-35 for export.

For Turkey, this will be a huge additional cost. Their entire Air Force system is built on American aircraft.

And the Jewish Aron .. After all, you wrote the program for fu 35 and you call this golden fighter to everyone hehe And you are trying to pay for it .. Well, well ..
Get out of Ukraine, put ..ONE and the entire budget will collapse !!!
And another burry voice in flight .. You didn’t pay for the update and in an hour the whole system will be blocked and only draft The account is on your screen hehe

This is your Aron took off shot and immediately landed.

[Pavlos Melas]

Hello, let friend Tagip buy SU 35, he also has a gas hub, and the planes will be peshkesh and infrastructure. Only then how many shed tears about khanchar will be in the back?

[Alex777]

Quote: Pavlos Melas

Only then how many shed tears about khanchar will be in the back?

5 days ago you had your fingers crossed for the Su-35.
What's been screwed up now? What changed?

[Pavlos Melas]

5 days ago you had your fingers crossed for the Su-35.

Nothing has changed, I still hope that he will buy the Su 35. Why are you that someone is fidgeting, everything is the same as before.

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: Lt. Air Force stock

We have the Su-35, we need to increase production of the Su-57 for us, and leave the Su-35 for export.

For Turkey, this will be a huge additional cost. Their entire Air Force system is built on American aircraft.

Aron Turks are guys "with eggs", unlike many. In light of the latest rumors, even from your compatriots.

[svp67]

It is clear that this is elementary blackmail. Turkey has a F-16 assembly plant and now it is unlikely to change it to another aircraft, of a completely different design. Most likely, they will begin cooperation to establish production at home, an aircraft of their own design. How did they do it with the same "their" tank "Altai"

[spirit]

I agree + the old f16 needs to be repaired and modernized.
Putting everything on your destroyer is very risky, you can be left with nothing + this time. Blackmail with the purchase of weapons from a warring country, which, frankly, has problems with components for itself. The Turks will sell them using the "bazaar" method

[cold wind]

In reality, there is an option with Eurofighters. They are negotiating over them. The fact that the F-16 is optimal for Turkey is undeniable.

[The popuas]

We also had a variant with "Mistrals" ... what came of it you know... ... so with a pitchfork on the water t.s

[abc_alex]

Quote from cold wind

In reality, there is an option with Eurofighters. They are negotiating over them. The fact that the F-16 is optimal for Turkey is undeniable.

Yes, sure. The Statesmen, having refused the F-16s to the Turks, will allow the Europeans to take their place. What planet did you come to us from? :) The fact that you are not from Earth is obvious, otherwise you would have known that the US announced the refusal to supply F-16s as a sanction for Turkey's refusal to let Sweden into NATO. Do you think Washington will allow the Europeans to cancel their ultimatum?

[carpenter]

Quote: svp67

It is clear that this is elementary blackmail. Turkey has a F-16 assembly plant and now it is unlikely to change it to another aircraft, of a completely different design.

And besides this, service stations, spare parts, training of pilots and technicians.

[Johnson Smithson]

without the Americans, they are unlikely to be able to produce fighters, there is probably an assembly from ready-made American components

they also produced parts for the F-35, but after buying the C-400 they were excluded from the program

[Carat]

but Erdogan does not want to cancel friendship with Russia, now in Turkey too much is tied to Russia.

Erdogan is one of the few who understands that it is more profitable to be friends with Russia than to quarrel. True, he uses it for now, but this is for now.

[expert]

Talking about "friendship" with Turkey, I think is not entirely correct.
I would call it "temporary mutually beneficial cooperation."
Russia has enough "friends" in the CSTO too.
That was sarcasm, by the way...

[Adrian28]

We expect that common sense will prevail in the US and they will make a decision based on a comprehensive assessment of the problem. (...) We also say that F-16s are not our only option

Damn, a cool answer to the insolent Merikos.

[rotmistr60]

Turkey will consider options for the purchase of fighters from other countries

It turns out that the Turks are not only able to bargain, but also know how to blackmail. But the Americans cannot be blackmailed, they themselves will blackmail anyone they want, because. the CIA's "safes" from compra on the leaders of countries and their governments are bursting.

[voice of reason]

If this passenger finishes playing before leaving NATO, Russia will only burn out from this. First, NATO will weaken, and then you can talk differently with the passenger yourself ....

[Carat]

Quote: voice of reason

If this passenger finishes playing before leaving NATO, Russia will only burn out from this. First, NATO will weaken, and then you can talk differently with the passenger yourself ....

NATO needs the Bosphorus under its wing in case of war. It is easier for them to fill up Erdogan than to part with Turkey.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: voice of reason

If this passenger finishes playing before leaving NATO, Russia will only burn out from this.

Although America and NATO now have more problems from Turkey than profit (and here the Greeks turned up inopportunely ...), there is no talk of leaving, and even more so, of "expelling" Turkey from NATO from the word "absolutely".
Like it or not, Turkey is the Black Sea. And the importance of the Black Sea in strategic terms is difficult to overestimate.

America will not be able to break Turkey - this is unlikely if Erdogan follows the principle. And cheat too. There are only two options left here - either buy Erdogan with some nishtyaks, or change him to the "Turkish Scholz".
If America understands this and stops storming the Turkish "wall" with its forehead, then maybe something will work out for America.
Moreover, they have already tried to change, break - too.
It remains only to buy. Expensive, and not so much for the prestige of the "world hegemon" ... But there is nothing more to do.

[Bingo]

The most interesting thing is that even the suckers who are now studying on the F-16 say that they are no match for Sushka
https://vk.com/video-182816816_456240680

[Myths]

Whether or not it suits no one cares, the very fact that they will be there is important, and launching a rocket according to the principle of launching and forgetting is quite enough, then the US satellite leads it, and yes, this is not the participation of the US itself, the satellites themselves decide who to help .. .

[AAC]

Well, let's assume it's far "not now". This video is several years old. And this is the opinion of one pilot. Don't underestimate this flyer. Deshman UAVs create a lot of problems, and here is a whole 4+ generation aircraft and more than one. For any difficult goal will be.

[Petr_Koldunov]

Ankara considered the Russian Su-35 as an alternative to the American F-57, and the F-16 can replace the Su-35

I hope Russia never does anything like that! That endless stream of our Soviet weapons, which all last year went to Ukraine in a continuous wave from almost fifty countries, should unambiguously teach Russia that the weapons once delivered over the hill will sooner or later be turned against us ourselves!

[Vladimir80]

don’t worry, in Russia there are no extra planes in our production “a teaspoon a year”, and secondly, these are just statements by Erdogashi’s “friend” for bargaining with amers (he’s getting his price!)

[carpenter]

but Erdogan does not want to cancel friendship with Russia, now in Turkey too much is tied to Russia.

"Feeding hand, even the wolf does not bite."
Erdogan knows this like no one else, after the attempted pro-American coup led by Gülen in July 2016, when Russian special forces managed to evacuate Erdogan to the Casa De Maris hotel shortly before the storming of the Grand Yazici Club Turban hotel.

[Knizhnik]

The Turks are faced with the fact that in NATO, as it were, "everyone is equal, but some are more equal." Either they don’t give missile defense systems, then they don’t give planes. Abidna.

[rocket757]

Turkish Defense Minister Hulusi Akar warned the United States about the existence of alternative options for obtaining fighters

. Talk, talk... how it all ends, who knows.

[Herman 4223]

And what is burning in Turkey? They urgently need planes, are there not enough cars at the front? They have a project for their new car, in 6-8 years, according to the plan, it should be in series. Why do they need f-16?

[cold wind]

They need a counterbalance to the strengthening of the Greek and Egyptian air forces. Rafali changed the situation in the air in favor of these countries. Qualitatively, only F-35/15EX/16V and EF can resist them. Their development is the prospect of the early 30s, we need quick and ready-made solutions. That's the whole schedule.

[Herman 4223]

Well, yes, only Egypt bought almost 50 MiG-29Ms, ordered 24 Su-35s (I haven’t received them yet, but the planes are ready) and Rafali is a plus sign to this good. If Turkey suddenly has some sort of confrontation with Egypt, but it doesn’t seem to exist, then the f-16 is clearly not the best option.

[cold wind]

Quote: Herman 4223

Su-35 ordered (not accepted yet, but the planes are ready)

These aircraft were given to Iran, after the test of the Su-35 VC Rafal, Egypt abandoned them.
I'm talking specifically about the F-16V, it has an advanced radar and electronic warfare systems from the F-35, they are needed. On some of the old F-16s, the Turks put their AFAR and electronic warfare systems, but they are inferior to the 70/72 block.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote from cold wind

These aircraft were given to Iran, after the test of the Su-35 VC Rafal, Egypt abandoned them.
I'm talking specifically about the F-16V, it has an advanced radar and electronic warfare systems from the F-35, they are needed. On some of the old F-16s, the Turks put their AFAR and electronic warfare systems, but they are inferior to the 70/72 block.

The Turks need to diversify their risks, they cannot buy fighters from one manufacturer. If Turkey buys the Su-35, then they are probably compatible with the S-400. As for the fact that they are obsolete, according to you, the S-400 arranged for Turkey, no one said that the air defense system was obsolete, so why is the Su-35 obsolete?

[cold wind]

Quote: Lt. air force reserve

Turkey arranged the S-400, no one said that the air defense system was outdated, so why is the Su-35 outdated?

Maybe because the SAM and the Fighter are completely different things?

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote from cold wind

Maybe because the SAM and the Fighter are completely different things?

Well, of course, modern electronics were used in the S-400, but they were clamped for the Su-35.

[cold wind]

There is a problem in order to raise the electronics of the S-400, you will have to use several Su35

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote from cold wind

There is a problem in order to raise the electronics of the S-400, you will have to use several Su35

By the way, as for the AFAR, there are in the western ones, but supposedly not in the Su-35, in fact, it seems that there are radars in the edges of the wings, as well as side ones, and if I’m not mistaken they are AFAR, the main radar and PFAR. But the PFAR is not always bad, the PFAR is on Arly Burks, only now they are going to change it, and no one spoke about the low efficiency of Aegis, on the contrary, the system is considered almost the best in the world of CIUS.

[cold wind]

Burn change your nickname, do not disgrace the BBC
Electronic warfare sensors, EMNIP detection warning systems are installed at the edges of the wings. There is no AFAR on the Su-35. If there is a PFAR on a destroyer, does that mean it's good on a fighter? This is very funny

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote from cold wind

Burn change your nickname, do not disgrace the BBC
Electronic warfare sensors, EMNIP detection warning systems are installed at the edges of the wings. There is no AFAR on the Su-35. If there is a PFAR on a destroyer, does that mean it's good on a fighter? This is very funny

There, antennas based on AFAR, and as you know, AFAR can be used both as electronic warfare and for detecting targets, as well as for other purposes.

[cold wind]

You decide interrogator or electronic warfare in general, hello to the designer girl who drew this nonsense

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote from cold wind

You decide interrogator or electronic warfare

An active phased array antenna can be used in many ways. Roughly speaking, a radar with AFAR is both an electronic warfare and a radar and a means of communication and exchange of tactical information (interrogator).

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote from cold wind

You decide on the interrogator or electronic warfare in general hello to the designer girl who drew this nonsense

Here is another photo from the internet.

[cold wind]

It's even more fun
Okay, keep explaining what it is and why it's there. In short, this is a state identification interrogator i.e. the system for determining "friend or foe", it does not apply to radar or electronic warfare. There are too few antennas, the decimeter range is too specific and is used mainly for communication
jre.cplire.ru/jre/library/3conference/pdffiles/a005.pdf

[Herman 4223]

What test is the Su-35 VC Rafal? Su-35s have never been in Egypt, and Rafal in Russia. Where did they take it? Nothing has been given to Iran yet. Iran will receive its aircraft only in the spring, and it is not known for certain whether these will be new-built aircraft or not.

[cold wind]

Conducted in Egypt, the first pilot batch was sent in 2020.
https://topwar.ru/173402-pervaja-partija-istrebitelej-su-35-dlja-egipta-vyletela-iz-komsomolska-na-amure.html?ysclid=ldrmi8m79w495786278

[Herman 4223]

Nothing was sent to Egypt. The planes were assembled, the pilots were trained in Russia, but not a single car reached Egypt. Now it's not even a secret that the refusal was due to US pressure. You stubbornly retell the fantasies of the Polish press.

[cold wind]

You can buy MiG-29 and Ka-52, but not Su-35. Under US pressure to buy French fighters. Oh well.

[Herman 4223]

They forgot about the T-90. Using your logic, you can also ask: does it mean that the MiG-29s arranged them, but did they not like the more advanced Su-35s, which China bought by the way, and this already says a lot? Moreover, the construction of the aircraft was paid for, and the cars were produced. Russia did not return the money to anyone in connection with the refusal of the goods.

[abc_alex]

Quote from cold wind

They need a counterbalance to the strengthening of the Greek and Egyptian air forces. Rafali changed the situation in the air in favor of these countries. Qualitatively, only F-35/15EX/16V and EF can resist them. Their development is the prospect of the early 30s, we need quick and ready-made solutions. That's the whole schedule.

What are you carrying? Where and what did they change? The Greeks have 6 (six), and Egypt has 24 of them 12 used. Turkey has more than 250 f-16s, the overwhelming number is "50 block". What does "qualitatively" resist? In a computer simulator? Or in Popular Mechanics magazine?

The reasons for Turkey's interest in the F-35 are completely different.

[cold wind]

The Rafali are head and shoulders above the F-16 block 50. In everything. In avionics and performance characteristics. They make the difference between victory and defeat. The Egyptian and Greek Air Forces have a large fleet of fighters without Rafals.

[HattinGokbori88]

France, under the current political party, will not sell anything to the Islamist Erdogan. While China has been quite open about arms sales to Turkey in the past (China has agreed to sell HQ-9s to Turkey with a co-production option), buying from China at this point means direct US opposition. The UK can sell until the US vetoes such a deal. So the most obvious choice might be Russia. Putin should be more than happy to have NATO's 2nd largest army as a client, as buying a lot of sensitive weapons from the country means the buyer has to maintain a good relationship with the seller.
Just look at India, despite the fact that the party in power is heavily dependent on its relations with Israel and the US, it will never be able to go against Russia due to its strong military dependence. Even the US is aware of the situation, India is the only country that is not facing any pressure from the US to buy Russian oil. On the contrary, the US has publicly stated that "India can buy as much as it wants from Russia".

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-11-11/exclusive-india-can-buy-as-much-russian-oil-as-it-wants-outside-price-cap-yellen-says

[1erWahrheitsMinister_1984]

Dieser verlogenen Ratte Erdogan würde ich noch nicht einmal
einen Dusen-Vacuum cleaner verkaufen...!!
Kein Türke, der nicht fur irgend einen Vorteil seine eigene Mutter
verkaufen würde!! Und Erdogan ist ein Musterbeispiel eines solchen
typischen Türken!! Ich kriege schon das Kotzen, wie sich dieser falsche
Hund als "Friedens-Taube präsentierte, um sich den Weizen-Deal unter
den Nagel zu reißen, während er gleichzeitig eine neue Offensive
in Syrien ankündigt...!! Gerade verkauft er sein falsches Spiel an die
Amis, für die Nutzung von Incirlik zum US/Israel-Überfall auf den Iran...!!
Erdogan ist und bleibt ein verräterischer, widerwärtiger Drecksack dem
man nicht eine Sekunde über den Weg trauen kann, genau der richtige
"Partner" für das Ami-Pack...!!!

[AlexWar]

Turkey will be interested in the Su-57. F16 These are already old F-16 fighters produced since 1974 in various modifications.

[Zaurbek]

It is unlikely that they will be given until our army is equipped.

[abc_alex]

Quote from Alexwar

Turkey will be interested in the Su-57. F16 These are already old F-16 fighters produced since 1974 in various modifications.

The F-16 is a well-proven platform. The manufacturer has long established the formation of the latest models of flight equipment on its basis. The 60th and 70th blocks in terms of electronic filling almost do not differ from the F-35, and even more so in terms of performance characteristics. In addition, the F-16 is a multi-purpose vehicle, capable of carrying the widest range of weapons from the lightest missiles and bombs to nuclear weapons. What can not be said about the Penguin, it has limitations on the capacity of the internal compartments. Hanging the weapon on the outside makes it meaningless.

[Wolf]

And there is information on why the Bulgarians sent so many spies to Serbia around the new year ???? Something interesting should happen in Serbia? 
Bulgarian brothers WHAT WOULD YOU KNOW THIS TIME THERE WILL BE NO MERCY OF THE THREADS OF POSHTEDI AND TO THE BLACK SEA !!!

[alexey_444]

Time will tell whether the Turks have learned the lessons of history or not. The Germans, for example, are losers, they can only make mechanisms, in politics they are complete goofs. Previous centuries have shown that the Anglo-Saxons twisted the Turks as they wanted, now, almost for the first time, the Turks competently breed their partners.

[Zaurbek]

The Turks have money stuck in the USA for the F35, they are trying to take the F16mi .... They will switch to another plane - they will lose money.

[abc_alex]

Everything is more difficult. Turks are project participants. They invested money in it at the design stage and the States are contractually obliged to supply them with aircraft and use them in production. So the F-16 has nothing to do with it at all. It is the States that are blackmailing the Turks, demanding that Sweden and Finland be accepted into NATO. But, I repeat, these stories are not connected with each other.

[Revolver]

Erdogan does not want to cancel friendship with Russia, now in Turkey too much is tied to Russia.

Yes, of course, friendship, and "Bayraktar" for Banderostan is "business, nothing personal."

[Egeny]

Turkey will consider options for the purchase of fighters from other countries

The Sultan is bargaining... here is the indestructible eastern vein... of the huckster.

[km-21]

The Turks are bluffing in their usual manner. They are demonstrating a certain "multi-vector approach", trying to pit competing suppliers against their foreheads. But the Americans are not idiots and are well aware that the Su-57s exist in very limited numbers and are far from a state of full combat readiness. Before the start of export deliveries of the Su-57, with all the good things, it will take at least five years. At present, this is infinity.