The Pentagon said that the GLSDB ammunition is not compatible with Ukraine's HIMARS MLRS

American sources of information publish statements by senior Pentagon military officials saying that the GLSDB missiles (rocket-engine bombs) transferred to Ukraine are not compatible with the Hymars universal launchers previously transferred to Kyiv.

Recall that Washington approved the transfer of these missiles with a range of up to 150 km as part of the next package of military assistance to the Kyiv regime. And initially it was reported that MLRS HIMARS are suitable for GLSDB. However, it has now been stated that for the GLSDB ammunition, which may be in Ukraine as early as the coming spring, there are no suitable launchers at the disposal of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

In such a situation, according to Western media, the United States is considering the option of supplying Ukraine with new missile launchers, the functionality of which allows the GLSDB to be used to hit targets at the above distance. About what installations we are talking about, at the moment it is not reported.

At the same time, military experts in the United States recalled that in no single use of the GLSDB (both test and in the format of military exercises) did this rocket-powered bomb show a range of 150 km. The maximum documented range of hitting a target on land (according to open American sources) was 119 km. In the naval version, the target was hit at a distance of 130 km.

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[Orange Bigg]

At the same time, military experts in the United States recalled that in no single use of the GLSDB (both test and military exercises) did this rocket-powered bomb show a range of 150 km. The maximum documented range of hitting a target on land (according to open American sources) was 119 km. In the naval version, the target was hit at a distance of 130 km.

Well, that is, the real range is like that of the Ukrainian MLRS Alder.
And what about the VKS with planning bombs? They showed in the photo one gliding bomb (JDAM analog) on ​​a suspension from the Su-34 and then silence. the basis of FAB-29 is not used.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

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Well, that is, the real range is like that of the Ukrainian MLRS Alder.
And what about the VKS with planning bombs? They showed in the photo one planning bomb on a Su-34 suspension and then silence. At least they made a report in the media, they told how they had previously talked about the same Kh-29TD. Otherwise, it seems that planning bombs made on the basis of the FAB-500 do not apply.

There are planning bombs Grom-E1 (bomb with a solid fuel accelerator) and Thunder-E2 (planning bomb), they showed at exhibitions whether they were produced in decent quantities or not.

[Orange Bigg]

I mean an analogue of JDAM, when inexpensive gliders are made from simple bombs. Thunder will probably come out more expensive. Here is a photo.

.In the course of the SVO in Ukraine, the Russian Aerospace Forces acquired a system similar to the American JDAM kit, which allows you to turn a conventional free-fall bomb into a guided precision-guided munition. The picture shows that the FAB-500 is retrofitted with a planning and correction module. Retractable wings were attached to the unguided aircraft weapon (pictured below). This indicates that this particular FAB-500 is now able to plan. However, the characteristics are not yet known.

https://topcor.ru/30753-vks-rossii-obzavelis-sistemoj-analogichnoj-amerikanskomu-komplektu-jdam.html

[Introvert]

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And what about the VKS with planning bombs? They showed in the photo one gliding bomb (analogous to JDAM) on a Su-34 suspension and then silence.

Everything is stable - it was not, is not and will not be. There are some crafts from the "let's make everyone neigh" club. If Western samples fly away from a height of 10+ km for 100 km, then ours is a maximum of 30. And no normal air defense can bypass the carrier of these crafts. I don’t understand at all why there is such a tendency not to take into account the developments of the opposite side, which turned out to be successful (suspended aiming and electronic warfare containers, planning AB, small-sized missile launchers, etc.), they don’t hesitate to adapt ours. And then it’s as if the crown will fall, you have to come up with a super-wunder waffle-all-inclusive, but be able to release it in a couple of copies to show it cleanly at the parade. And the whole crowd "rides" on "wood"

[bayard]

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And what about the VKS with planning bombs? They showed in the photo one gliding bomb (JDAM analog) on ​​a suspension from the Su-34 and then silence. the basis of FAB-29 is not used.

These bombs must first be mastered by the troops, the pilots must be trained to use them, and produced in the proper quantities. I think now work is going on at the training grounds ... and they are being accumulated for ... the upcoming offensive. And there will be an attack. There were rumors about planning bombs of a much larger caliber - up to 1500 kg. The winter has been mild, and a winter offensive under such conditions is still impossible. So either the frosts will hit in February, or already in the spring.

[Orange Bigg]

Well, if the rumors are true.

[Looking Petrovich]

They abuse Ze: We will supply you with Leopard-1, but we will not give shells; we will give you GLSDB rockets, but you will not be able to launch them.

[Orange Bigg]

Be sure to abuse, and many, when he resigns his presidential powers.

[Luka Nord]

Quote: Looking Petrovich

They abuse Ze: We will supply you with Leopard-1, but we will not give shells; we will give you GLSDB rockets, but you will not be able to launch them.

They are afraid of capture and are well aware that the Outskirts have existed for the last months. The Russians are very angry

[Alexander 3]

Everyone abuses Ze. After all, he jumped on his heels in front of people for a reason. Politicians who have no knowledge in technology promise the impossible. Planes without pilots and those crews, tanks without fuel, guns without shells. Most importantly, people without faith.

[Egeny]

"...it's getting harder and harder for me to make you laugh over the years, because I'm no joke at the throne of the king..."
And for me it’s like a jester, a clown ... bloody.

[YOUR]

statements by high-ranking Pentagon military officials stating that the GLSDB missiles (rocket-powered bombs) transferred to Ukraine are not compatible with the Hymars universal launchers previously transferred to Kyiv.

I don’t know how much you can believe this, but just now on TC Russia 24 they showed footage of the launch of this projectile from the Himers launcher. Before that, there were several videos of the launch of this projectile with a small guide. Practically from the ground without special adaptations.

[bayard]

Quote: Looking Petrovich

They abuse Ze: We will supply you with Leopard-1, but we will not give shells; we will give you GLSDB rockets, but you will not be able to launch them.

All this noise and deliberate belligerence with "unparalleled deliveries of tanks / planes / missiles with bombs" looks more like an adventure to intimidate Russia and force them to agree to a truce "for 20% of the already occupied territory". Elections are approaching in the United States, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine may suffer severe defeats and collapse in the spring and summer. This is very detrimental to the US elections.
But it's too late.
It was possible to talk about this (and the Kremlin tried and tried to reduce it to this) back in the spring of last year. Not now . Now there will be a victory on the battlefield and a final solution to the issue of the Nazis in Ukraine. This is already an internal consensus.
And this is the defeat of the collective West.
And the defeat of Biden and the "Democrats" in the US elections.
And Trump's victory.
And since having put pressure ... "frightening" the Kremlin with their militancy, the opposite happened ... it looks like Ukraine is being prepared for a drain. Perhaps to the section.
Or - War.
Already real, nuclear ... and Western Europe will simply be washed away, like the North American continent. Even rockets are not required for this.
One step forward and two back. and where there are two, there will be a third. And now, instead of "Leo-2" and "Abrams" ... "Leo-1" from storage and without shells ... and "Chimera" "cannot" fire these missiles with a bomb ... investments in a lost war ahead of time ... unprofitable. And the defeat of the West will be fatal and final.
So Arestovich ... became sad ... and sad in a well-reasoned way.
And this is good . This is right .

[tralflot1832]

What will happen next to reach Moscow? We only have ICBMs to Washington. It seems that everything is going to this. If we don’t start launching products beyond the Ukrainian-Polish border. They feel their impunity since 1991.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: tralflot1832

What will be the next one to fly to Moscow? We only have ICBMs to Washington. It looks like everything is going to this.

It's time for the Cubans to sell customized Iskander-K installations!

[tralflot1832]

Biden agreed with the Pentagon that it’s not worth shooting down the balloon with Vini. It seems that the Pentagon explained to the old man on his fingers that the Patriot can get sick with the Ukrainian SAM disease, heh, shoot at their residential buildings. this is a disgrace for the Pentagon. I can imagine how Solovyov now broke up in his program: Where is the vaunted US missile defense system, where is it. She can’t shoot down an inflatable balloon. flies. By the way, according to unverified information, the second ball is sneaking towards the USA. By the way, in the 90s, a ball flew over Murmansk from Sweden. True, it flew lower, they got it from a helicopter.

[YOUR]

This ball is radio transparent. His radar simply does not see. In the 60s and 70s, the Americans massively launched such balloons towards China and the USSR. In total, about 10 balloons were launched. From reconnaissance they were not shot down with equipment with anti-Soviet literature by air defense systems, only fighters with cannon weapons were sent to intercept. Guidance is not on instruments, but as during the war on a collimator sight. Most of the balls continued to dangle over the USSR, the planes simply did not rise to such a height. Maybe the Americans have the same problems. They are accustomed to relying only on technology, and technology fails.

[Sith]

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Be sure to abuse, and many, when he resigns his presidential powers.

When he folds it, or they hide the mattresses, or "like their own citizens" bang ... no one needs such a witness

[voice of reason]

a classic of the same genre - the white sun of the desert in all its glory

[Dkuznecov]

Am I mistaken, or does the second lieutenant have a katana?

[ohka]

It's hard to see in the photo, but I don't remember how it was in the movie. But most likely it is a shin gunto, type 95 (non-commissioned officer).

[opuonmed]

It also included GLSDB missiles with a range of 150 km.
They can be launched by RZSO HIMARS.
How will Russia respond?

[28st region]

As well as for the supply of tanks and other weapons. Lavrov will again warn about the inadmissibility of crossing the red lines.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: opuonmed

How will Russia respond?

It will crash. The Glide Bomb is an easy target.

[YOUR]

Why wasn't they shot down in Engels, yesterday in the Belgorod region? The oil depot is on fire.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: YOUR

Why wasn't they shot down in Engels, yesterday in the Belgorod region?

Everything was shot down in Engels.
I don't know anything about the Belgorod tank farm. But there can be many reasons, and the weakness of our air defense is not among them.
Again, why on earth are you trying to draw any analogies - were planning bombs used in Engels and Belgorod?

[YOUR]

In Engels, according to your terminology, an even lighter target was used, which flew over the territory of Russia 1000 km.

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I don't know anything about the Belgorod tank farm.

You don't know a lot. You just need to read, not write slogans

[nik-mazur]

Quote: YOUR

In Engels, according to your terminology, an even easier target was used

And this goal was shot down. Although not as perfect as any sofa expert would make it.

Quote: YOUR

You just need to read

To have information, you need to have permission. And to study the Internet and believe that it gives knowledge ... to put it mildly, naive.

[Osipov9391]

One should be careful with such information.
It may be the other way around.

They also thought in the summer (I doubted it myself) that HARM could be attached to the Su-27 and MiG-29.
But they built it.
This is modern electronics.

[TOR2]

The maximum documented range of hitting a target on land (according to open American sources) was 119 km

In order for this thing to fly so much, it needs to be raised to a certain height. The detection and detection of such targets is within the power of the existing air defense systems. But the number of complexes should be greater, based on reports from the NWO, this becomes clear. Yes, and it was not a fig to disband specialized schools!

[Michael]

The outburst of patriotism is quite natural. If you look at the First World War and draw parallels, then one to one, the bourgeoisie is profiting, the elite has degenerated and cooperated with the bourgeoisie, the workers and peasants are vegetating.
Abramovich sold Chelsea and donated the money to a fund to help victims in Ukraine. Two and a half lard dollars.

[28st region]

I bought myself the opportunity to live in England. This is our elite.

Quote: Michael

Abramovich sold Chelsea and donated the money to a fund to help victims in Ukraine. Two and a half lard dollars.

[VladimirNET]

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And what about the VKS with planning bombs? They showed in the photo one gliding bomb (analogous to JDAM) on a Su-34 suspension and then silence.

In short, we do not have them, or their number is piecemeal. It seems that production will be launched, which means that by 2024 they will probably do it ...

Such a conclusion - because (until now) we CANNOT destroy bridges, and from planes (and helicopters) - we shoot only unguided rockets (in areas).

[decimalegio]

From the SAAB website:
"""" Since the system does not require a ballistic path to the target, it is possible to launch GLSDB from a container and hit targets in 360 degrees without moving the launcher. In addition, any launcher capable of using the MLRS launcher container (M270, HIMARS, CHUNMOO) can also be used.

https://www.saab.com/newsroom/stories/2019/march/flexible-precise-and-reliable--the-versatile-long-range-solution-that-has-it-all

[Nikolaevich I]

However, it is now stated that there are no suitable launchers for the GLSDB ammunition at the disposal of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

The United States is considering the option of supplying Ukraine with new missile launchers, the functionality of which allows the use of GLSDB to hit targets at the above distance.

At the same time, military experts in the United States recalled that in no single use of the GLSDB (both test and in the format of military exercises) did this rocket-powered bomb show a range of 150 km. The maximum documented range of hitting a target on land (according to open American sources) was 119 km. In the naval version, the target was hit at a distance of 130 km.
LIE, NITS! There is a lot of material on the Internet about the testing of these "smart bombs mounted on a rocket" from American departments! Yes ... there are reports of a range of 130 km, but there are no reports that some "special" launchers are needed to launch GLSDB! In addition, you need to know that when testing RS with GLSDB, they often demonstrate the ability of a bomb to fly past the target, and then turn around and hit the target from the "rear" or side! Of course, in this case, the range will be less than the maximum in a straight line! All descriptions indicate that the new weapon is designed to be launched from those launchers. what the "happy Americans" owners of the M142 and M270 already have! Perhaps, "problems" can only be in software "charged" in the LMS! But this is "easily" fixable when reprogramming with new software!
By the way, you can "calculate" the possibility yourself - the impossibility of launching GLSDB from the M142, M270 launchers ... On the Internet you can find data on the length of the launch stages of the RS M26 and the total length of the M26, M30 ... the length of the 190-mm GLSDB bombs!

[Arsen1]

The article is nonsense and lies. Missiles are universal for both highmars and m270