Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Medvedev on the economy of Ukraine: “It is rapidly turning into dust”

The Ukrainian economy is in a difficult state. This conclusion is made in his post on the Telegram channel by Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev.

The politician said that yesterday an “aunt-gynecologist” came to Kyiv, as he described Ursula von der Leyen, head of the European Commission. According to Leyen, the Ukrainian economy will allegedly improve. But in reality, according to Medvedev, there are no grounds for such optimistic statements.

The fighting in Ukraine led to the transformation of this territory into a quasi-state entity completely incapacitated in economic terms. This is recognized even by European countries that are supposedly allies of the Kyiv regime.

The economy of this unfortunate territory is rapidly turning into a stinking dust

- stressed Medvedev.

According to Goldman Sachs, which the politician refers to, Ukraine has now lost territories that provided it with up to 40% of the national industrial potential and about 15% of GDP. Now Ukraine does not have the opportunity to exploit mineral reserves worth more than 12 trillion dollars. We are talking about coal reserves - 63%, and metals - 42%.

The country's agriculture is also in dire condition. According to Medvedev, a sharp drop in the harvest is recorded - wheat to 19,4 million tons in 2022 against 32,5 million in 2021, corn to 18,4 million tons against 35,1 million. In addition, the need to transport goods on land routes through Romania and Poland contributed to the increase in the cost of logistics by two to three times.

Thus, Medvedev notes, Ukraine's GDP "dipped" by 35-36%, and the total damage from hostilities amounted to 830-850 billion dollars. The collapse of industry and the total unemployment of the population cannot be discounted. The state debt of the Kyiv regime has increased from 107 to 180-200 billion dollars - almost twice. Medvedev predicts that in 2023 the Ukrainian economy will collapse by 5-10%. The Kyiv regime is literally “squandering” its territory. But the budget deficit is growing, even despite Western financial assistance.

As the deputy chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation predicts, Ukraine is waiting for "organic death of the remnants of the country itself." And this is a completely logical finale of cooperation between the Kyiv regime and the West, in the absence of real assistance from the latter. After all, it is unlikely that the financing of hostilities contributes to economic recovery.

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[credo]

Dmitry Anatolyevich does not let us forget about himself.
It seems to be preparing us for something.
Not so for the elections?.

[Myths]

Spit, God forbid. Their economy has been in this state for a long time, they destroyed production under the control of curators, controlled oligarchs are able to push the business, tear it apart and sell it. And Russia is to blame for everything. Not from those they want freedom.

[credo]

Quote from Mitos

Spit, God forbid. Their economy has been in this state for a long time, they destroyed production under the control of curators, controlled oligarchs are able to push the business, tear it apart and sell it. And Russia is to blame for everything. Not from those they want freedom.

Sometimes it seems that our politicians talk about the Ukrainian economy as about the Ukrainian army - "Yes, they have everything plundered there and there is nothing, but throw a cry at them so they will go over to the side of Russia in orderly rows !!!".

Of course, Dmitry Anatolyevich has more information about Ukraine and its economy than the rest of the population of Russia, but something makes me doubt that everything is very bad there, so such information should be treated on a 50/50 basis (50% truth, 50 % fiction).

[skeptick2]

Quote: credo

Of course, Dmitry Anatolyevich has more information about Ukraine and its economy than the rest of the population of Russia, but something makes me doubt that everything is very bad there

Reasonable remark.
In addition to which I have a question: if everything is so bad there, why haven't they all died out there yet?
Of course, the answer suggests itself - because the West helps and pours huge money into it.
But then the following question arises: since when did the West begin to invest in a deliberately unprofitable business? Big money? Who know how to count there, otherwise they would also have an economy with 2% of GDP from the world?

[Mishka78]

Quote from: skeptick2

and since when did the West begin to invest in a deliberately unprofitable business?

The answer seems to be simple. The US is profiting from this conflict. They earn very well.
Here is a list of only the obvious direct benefits:
The fact that they forced us out of the European energy market, military orders, the increasing dependence of Europe on their roof and energy supplies, the poaching of industries.
Well, and indirect benefits - the weakening of Russia and Europe, the opportunity to rally NATO, which is already slowly starting to spread, and so on.

[skeptick2]

Is accepted.
But in this case, burying Ukraine is all the more not worth it.
Since this project brings such a tangible profit to the States, we can safely conclude that they will continue to keep the project afloat. They will again and again make financial injections into the Ukrainian economy.
Why then says Mr. Medvedev?

[blackGRAIL]

The problem (ours) is that the Gauleiters of Ukraine, and even more so their Western masters, are absolutely indifferent to this. We have seen this in a mild form in the example of the Baltic countries. No decline in the economy and living standards of the population can change the anti-Russian course of the Baltic tigers. And (importantly) their population agrees with this. There are no protests and there will not be. Politicians pursuing a self-destructive policy have won, are winning and will continue to win elections. And with Ukraine the situation is completely similar. All our statements and attempts to open someone's eyes and call for prudence are aimed at emptiness.

[sgr291158]

Do they still have something left of the economy?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: sgr291158

Do they still have something left of the economy?

Let's see in 5 years after the end of the war. Today, when Ukrainian cities are subjected to rocket attacks, this cannot be assessed.

[Bolt cutter]

5 years after the end of the war.

4 years before the start of the war, they fought with Moldova for the status of the poorest country in Europe.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: sgr291158

Do they still have something left of the economy?

What is an economy? Stayed, didn't stay. What are you barking about, boyars?
The primary sector is not going anywhere. People will live - the tertiary will flourish. Quadruple spat no territory. It has long been extraterritorial. In the secondary industrial production and infrastructure will suffer. But, the United States and NATO initially viewed Ukraine as a springboard against Russia. Ukraine is planned as a buffer zone. Either all sectors there will be quickly restored, or they will remain in ruins. This development of events will suit both sides, I think.
But, instead of trending about the crisis of the Ukrainian economy, it would be better if he spoke about the prospects for the development of the Russian one. And then he does not declare prospects from the word at all, but the reality is depressing. The reference to the fact that the neighbor's is even worse is no longer "channel".

[Mishka78]

Quote: Vladimir Postnikov

The reference to the fact that the neighbor's is even worse is no longer "channel".

Channel, channel and will rope. Unfortunately...
The same Ukrainians before the war constantly compared the Russian economy not with themselves, but with the United States. And we were very happy that we were losing in all respects :)
And it is useful for us to compare it with some kind of tribaltic or out, with the same Ukrainians. What our leaders and their relatives in the face of the Kiselev-Skabeevs are constantly doing.
We have inflation of 12% officially. And in fact it really hurts to go to the shops. Prices in space are simple .. And since the beginning of 2022, Rosstat seems to have changed the methodology for calculating the consumer basket 4 times, excluding the most expensive goods from it. So we get inflation of 12%, a decrease in income of only 1%, etc.
And according to the slogans from TV, the increase in VAT and excises is a tax on business, it does not affect people, etc.
Yes. Disappointing reality.

[ximkim]

No matter how our economy turns into dust, otherwise prices bite like a shark.

[rotmistr60]

Yesterday, an “aunt-gynecologist” came to Kyiv ... the Ukrainian economy will allegedly improve

And having professionally examined a familiar organ (the economy), she suddenly concluded that it is still suitable for operation and is even improving. Ursula knows better, she's a professional... in female organs.

[75 Sergey]

Who woke him up?
How zealously he tries to change his image and take the place of Zhirinovsky, but he is still far from him, sharpness and lacks - Khlestakov's spirit.

[kor1vet1974]

Our economy is better than the Ukrainian one, we sell oil and gas at bargain prices, and in our country it becomes more expensive for the consumer .. There is already a queue for the Chinese "Moskvich", well, etc.. From each sanction, we grow stronger like from Viagra ...

[barclay]

If we talk about the economy, then not
Ukraine, and its remnants. And this economy will never be the same again. There will be something similar to the Baltics. These are earnings in the coveted West, and prostitution to serve foreign military contingents. By the way, the Baltos are not particularly upset about this.

[Bolt cutter]

And this economy will never be the same again. There will be something similar to the Baltics.

With real per capita GDP one and a half to two times higher than in Russia? Hardly .

Baltos are not particularly upset about this.

Russian-speaking residents of the Baltic states also do not go to Russia for permanent residence . They are also satisfied ?.

[Mini Mokik]

They don't go to Russia. But there are no young people left in Latvia either. Therefore, there are no riots. Old people hate Russia and are very afraid. The Russian Federation will come, and these elderly whores will no longer be able to change their shoes like 1991.

[Bolt cutter]

Old people hate Russia and are very afraid.

Nobody is afraid of Russia for a long time.

They don't go to Russia.

If everything is so good in Russia compared to the Baltic States, which are eating up the last hedgehog, why don’t they go?

[Reindeer]

If there is such a high GDP, income and wages, why is the increase in the price of firewood for heating causing panic? o_O"

[Bolt cutter]

Increasing the price of firewood for heating causes panic?

Unless in VO, like the strike of teachers in England, who live better than 99% of the forum population.

[barclay]

Quote: Bolt Cutter

Russian-speaking residents of the Baltic states also do not go to Russia for permanent residence. Are they satisfied too?

Everything is very simple. Russian-speaking citizens of Lithuania, for example, move freely around Europe and have the opportunity to work there and receive salaries that a Russian citizen would never dream of.
A married couple from Lithuania works in England: the husband is a bricklayer with a monthly salary of 2400 pounds, his wife works as a nurse-nurse with a salary of 2000 pounds. Money comes to spend home. In pandemic times, the forced downtime for nurses was partially compensated by the Queen of England from her fund. Do you think any of them will turn in the direction of Mother Russia?
A simple young man from Ukraine, working at a furniture factory somewhere in the Czech Republic, earns more than 2000 euros. Do you think he needs Ukrainian rocket science or shipbuilding?
Yes, not everyone can earn like that, but everyone is drawn to it.

[Bolt cutter]

It's simple.

I know, I live in England now. So maybe fairy tales about

prostitution to serve foreign military

inappropriate here?

[Midnight Bear]

Only here the per capita GDP of Estonia is 9 (!!!) times more than Ukrainian. So the Baltics in this case is an extremely optimistic forecast.

[grigor727]

We've been hearing this since 2014. But it has not yet turned into dust. How are we doing with the economy?

[Alexandr2637]

The Ukrainian economy is in a difficult state.

Do you want to talk about your economy, Dima?
It's already scary to go to the store because of the weekly rising prices!

[23424636]

With great trepidation and deep respect I treat the posts of DAM, whom Strelkov once called nothing more than Luntik. .In this regard, I want to say a few words about the production of drones in Russia. Today, the telegram blew up the post of military correspondent from Makeevka Vladlen Tatarsky. We all remember how the GDP instructed Shoigu to prepare a report on the level of equipping the army with everything necessary for combat operations by February 1. And now the author of the post said that the Ministry of Defense entered into a contract with a number of drone supplier firms at a price of 600 thousand rubles. per unit. buys goods 30 times more expensive than analogues. which are collected in the Donbass. Russian people. It's just a case in which drug dealers have a rest. A few times ago, Prime Minister Mishustin approved a tranche in the amount of 20 billion rubles to Shoigu's daughter for the repair and removal of garbage from a certain fort, which she is reconstructing into a recreation area .. For this 1 billion rubles. it would be possible to buy Donetsk drones as much as 1 thousand pieces and equip their troops standing and being in coordination. But alas, we will buy kosher drones, but at 33.3 thousand rubles each and paint the forts green.

[alexey_444]

I am amazed at the naivety of citizens about justice. Even under socialism and the blockade of Leningrad, there were people who ate red caviar. There is no justice in the world, even in the type of social. Switzerland, Sweden, and so on, there are also a lot of jambs, kickbacks, and so on, and with the same military contracts, when not the best was purchased, but through connections. I agree that this is bad, but for this people should not gossip about the kitchens, but learn to become an obstetrician and not take money for the birth of children, their salaries are not small or teachers peeking out all sorts of bribes from their parents. It doesn’t happen that everything is fine everywhere, the finishers work in white pay taxes, but only Shoigu’s daughter is making money, take off your pink glasses.

[Constantine N]

there is no particular faith in your posts .......................

[spirit]

The only rubbish is in the drunken brain of AmericanBoy. In my opinion, this prophet didn’t get anywhere at all. That Europe and Ukraine should freeze for a long time, according to his predictions, and their population should eat each other. Jester pea

[alexey_444]

Yes, everyone sees everything perfectly. Of course, the collapse is far away, in Africa there are a lot of states in the worst situation, but there all the authorities continue to work, the elite have fun and overspend. So here, the West does not need a competitor, metallurgy, agriculture (the Europeans will have nothing to do and, accordingly, nothing to live on), etc. The outskirts are like mastevka, everyone is trying to throw it at each other, only the West knows how to turn the destruction of people into good deeds, we far from them, Orthodoxy is not Protestantism with Catholics.

[Stas157]

the “gynecologist aunt,” as he described Ursula von der Leyen, the head of the European Commission, came.

And earlier, he called his enemies respectfully respected partners. At the request of Sarkizi, he even withdrew troops from Georgia. Well, now dear partners offended. Sanctions were piled up to the throat, the money was robbed of 300 billion ... After this, why be shy? You can call these gynecologists suckers!

[Constantine N]

Yes, if the economy of Ukraine does not become, the supply from the West will go ...

[populist]

The presence of Medvedev in the post of deputy chairman of the Security Council is an indicator of the level of the Kremlin "elite".

[VladMirU]

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[VladMirU]

The Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation is engaged in forecasts ....
This is how the security of our country is ensured. What else should he think about, if not about the forecast of the economy of the outskirts destroyed in "0". Kudos to him for taking care of us.